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Today in Britain,

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there's a crisis at
the very heart of our democracy.

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The Facebook generation
is plugging in, turning on,

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and tuning right out of politics.

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Three-quarters of them say they're
not even interested in voting.

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Estate agents are more trusted
than elected politicians.

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We needed somebody serious
to find out what was going on.

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Jeremy Paxman?

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He'd defected to Channel 4.

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Clare Balding?

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Too busy.

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Russell Brand?

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Too expensive.

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Prince Harry?

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Otherwise engaged.

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Finally, it came down to this guy,

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Jolyon Rubinstein.

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Well, at least he was available.

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Plus, he was cheap and cheerful.

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It's lovely to see you too.
How are you doing?

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'And increasingly well known
to our political leaders.'

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I just wanted to give you this
Bullingdon album. Thank you.

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Would you give me a sign of it?

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"Dear people of Iraq, we're very,
very sorry. Love from New Labour."

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This programme contains
some strong language

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SIRENS BLARE

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What have we got? It's a call
to an urgent fire risk.

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Where are we going?
Tory Party Headquarters.

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I'm off to mess
with some politicians.

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It's part of my mission to find out
why the Facebook generation

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is turned off by politics,
and how we might fix it.

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Oi! Oi, oi!

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Where better to start than here
in Clacton-on-Sea in Essex,

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where a key election's taking place?

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Vote for the sensible party!

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It could change the face
of British politics forever.

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Ukip, a party some brand as racist,

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is expected to win
its first ever seat in Parliament,

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bringing Britain
closer to leaving Europe.

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Good morning. Morning, Nigel.
All right, old boy?

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Even the weather's got better!
I know!

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'The media's wetting itself
with excitement.

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'But what about the rest of us?'

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Do you know who your local MP is?

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Not a clue.

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Who's your local MP?

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I don't do that.

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Can you name me a policy?

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Any policy at all?

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Nope. Can't think of any.

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No, I don't do that.

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Do you know who this guy is?
Is that the...

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I can't think of his name.
It's gone.

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Why does he look like... He's
the chairman of Clacton, or the MP.

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Do you know about this guy, who's
running the Environmental Ministry?

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Never heard of him, no.

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No idea who that is? Nope.

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Sure? Yep.

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Never seen this man before? No.

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Do you know who that is? Yeah.

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Who's that? Kim Kardashian.

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Why do you know who that is?

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I don't know,
I just know who it is.

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Do you vote? No.

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Will you vote? No.

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No. No. Load of bollocks.

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Are young people
interested in politics?

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Not really,
not the younger generation.

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It's more the older generation.

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Is football more important
than politics?

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Yes, I prefer football to politics.
Yeah, football.

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Clothes? Yeah. X Factor.

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Are trainers more important
than politics? Yes.

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What's more important than politics?

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Getting on with your life.

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'But is that really why'

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we've tuned out of politics?

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Apathy and ignorance?

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A whole generation that's happy
to vote, and even to pay to vote,

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on those really clever TV shows,

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X Factor, The Voice...

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The vote is now open!

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..and Strictly...
Voting is now officially open!

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..but can't get out of bed
to get down the polling station

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to cast their real vote?

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'But to me, that feels too easy.

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'Is apathy really the whole story?

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'I'm off on a journey to find out
what else is happening.'

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First stop, Glasgow.

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BAGPIPES PLAY AULD LANG SYNE

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I can hear the bagpipes!

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'It's the day before
the Scottish referendum,

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'when Scots decide whether or not
to stay part of the United Kingdom.'

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All of a sudden, all of our eyes
are open to this opportunity

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of about bringing about change.

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Taking the political system
like it's a snow globe,

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and turning it upside down
and shaking it.

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Politics, I've suddenly realised
over the last nine months,

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is about every part of your life -
everything.

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This is what
I call a political party.

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'Have I landed on Planet Activist?

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'Is this really Great Britain?

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'Everyone from both sides
of the campaign, Yes and No,

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'is off their tits!

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'On politics!'

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This is great!

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It shows that when
young people have a chance

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to make a real decision,
not just a vote for a politician,

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then they feel their voice matters
and they do get out and vote.

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This is about rejecting Westminster,

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and rejecting the sort of the elite,

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the elite ruling class,
that rule all of us.

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I see Scottish independence
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which is what independence is,

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as a route for change
for the rest of Britain as well.

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So you're actually more into getting
independence from Westminster

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than you are from England?

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Of course!

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South of the border,

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I'm seeing that self same hostility
and suspicion of Westminster.

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I think they're all liars
and crooks,

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and I think they don't represent
anybody apart from themselves.

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The problem is, who lies best? Is
that who you're going to vote for?

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They seem to say one thing
and do the other.

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What do you think of politicians?

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If you had to describe them
in two words, what would they be?

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The few not representing the many.

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Capitalists. Capitalists, yeah.
Rich. They are all rich.

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I think we just need a whole new...
A whole new lot, mate.

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Kick them all out.

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'So many of us see the mainstream
parties as all the same.

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'It's like politicians
all belong to one party.'

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Thank you so much. You're welcome.

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'The Westminster Party, that
promises everything to everyone.

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'What if I stand for
the Westminster Party in Clacton?

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'How will people react?'

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Oh, look, it's Harriet Harman.

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'The Labour Party deputy leader
has arrived to do battle.'

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Hello. Jolyon Rubinstein
from the Westminster Party.

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Fantastic to be here. Oh, right?

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Oh, the Westminster Party!
When did you get down?

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Great to see Westminster politicians
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when it suits
their national interest.

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Could you just do me a favour
and I'll talk to you later. Oh!

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'I think that's a politician's
way of telling me to piss off!'

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All right, keep fighting
the losing battle,

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good luck in the hopeless race!

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'Time to hit the campaign trail.

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'Could the Westminster Party
pip Ukip to the post?'

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Hello there, lovely to meet you.
What's your name?

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Lesley. What a beautiful, beautiful
name. What party are you from?

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I want you say, this is where
we are... This is where we are.

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We're different from Labour.
We are different from Labour.

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We're different to Conservative.
We're different to Conservative.

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In this specific way...
In these specific ways.

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And I'm with you on Europe.
I'm with you on Europe.

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You know where I am on Europe?
I know where you are on Europe.

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I can promise you that our party

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will make sure
that we look into that issue,

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and when I say look into it
I mean with our eyes.

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'No-one seems to notice
that I'm taking the mick.

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'To them, I'm just another
rosette-wearing politician

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'making promises I'll never keep.'

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Conservatives, Labour,
they are the same.

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You're just puppets for
the bigger people up the ladder.

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I don't even see any ladder.

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Exactly! You don't know
who you work for, really.

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Where's the ladder?

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Do you feel heard? I do, yeah.

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And I've done all the talking.

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I'll vote for you, then, dear.
Fantastic!

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'Maybe we've been
so bludgeoned by spin

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'that we've just stopped listening.'

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Can I count on you? Yeah.
Your support? Yeah.

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Another happy voter.

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And here's the bottom line.

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The general election
is just weeks away,

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but a recent poll said that
less than a quarter of under-25s

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intend to vote.

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What is going on?!

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'Who better to ask than an MP?

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'It might be tricky
getting into Parliament.

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'Here's what happened
last time I was here.'

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Hello, mate.

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We've got a big delivery of bullshit
that we need to take to Parliament.

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650 MPs in there.

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Look, this is grade A bullshit.

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'Tory MP Zac Goldsmith
was happy to meet.

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'What he said was really shocking.'

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Lying is a staple
here in Parliament.

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You can lie to get elected.

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You can then behave in any manner
you want in Parliament.

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You can do whatever you want.

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You can break every single
promise you made,

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and there's nothing
your constituents can do about it.

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People who are pulling away
from politics are doing so

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because they don't believe
there's a link between how they vote

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and how things are done
in government -

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politicians make a promise
before an election,

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and break it after the election,
whatever party they belong to.

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'Zac wants a tough bill giving
voters the right to recall MPs

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'who break promises.

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'And broken promises
are certainly what's upsetting

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'these striking firefighters.

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'Under the coalition government,
63 fire stations have closed,

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'and 4,000 full-time
firefighters' jobs have gone.

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'Now, the government wants to save
more money on their pensions.

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'Ministers say it's the result
of the budget deficit.

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'But what do the firefighters say?'

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This is David Cameron
in Carlisle Fire Station

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the night before
the 2010 general election,

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promising to firefighters

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that he wouldn't cut
any front-line services.

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Clearly, that was one of the
biggest lies we've heard in years.

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So, what did David Cameron
actually say?

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There will be difficult decisions,

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but I can tell you that any Cabinet
minister, if we win the election,

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who says, "Here are my plans", and
they involve front-line reductions,

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they'll be sent straight back to
their departments to think again.

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SIREN WHOOPS

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Oh, Dave, liar liar, pants on fire!

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What we got, Guv? We got a call
to an urgent fire risk.

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Have you got all the kit?
Got the flame retardant pants, Guv.

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Where we going?
Tory Party Headquarters.

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We're on a mission to help save
any Tories tempted to tell whoppers

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in the general election campaign.

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That's Tim Marcham
and that's Tim Hoy.

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They're both retired firefighters
with 56 years' service between them.

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They're fed up of broken promises

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and they're up for
a bit of naughtiness.

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Hi, there. Hi.
There's a fire risk here.

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We need to check your fire escapes
and also, have you got a copy of

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your risk assessment documentation
here as well?

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OK, just bear with me one moment?
Course. Thanks very much.

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Have you got any risk
assessment documents?

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2-4-6, porkies,
lies and fibs on the floor.

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Might need
some flame retardant pants.

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Can I just show you, madam,
if you just put on these

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fire retardant pants,
you're completely protected?

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We actually did do
a risk assessment.

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Be a lot better if you took your
clothes off and put the pants on.

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So you're actually asking me
to take all my clothes off, madam?

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We do know there has been a lot of
liar liar, pants on fire, going on

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inside their staff room.

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Madam, can offer you
these flame retardant pants?

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It is austerity
so we can't give them to everyone.

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00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,760
Have you got any flame retardant
pants for your office?

248
00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,160
It's that whole liar liar,
pants on fire thing.

249
00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,040
I think we'll just
leave a pair here

250
00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:53,080
just to make sure that people
know that they can be protected.

251
00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,920
But did Cameron actually tell a lie?

252
00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,600
I heard what was reported
that he said was,

253
00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,880
"If any minister comes to me
and says that they're going to cut

254
00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,320
"front-line services,
I'll send him back to his office,"

255
00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:12,000
which isn't quite a lie, is it?

256
00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,040
What I think he probably meant was
I'll send him back to his office

257
00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,840
with a, "Yes, we're going to
cut it, but don't tell anyone."

258
00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,760
But, you know, it's all party
political speak, isn't it?

259
00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,760
I think it's a problem with
trust at the end of the day

260
00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,800
because all people want from
an elected government is honesty

261
00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:31,280
and when people ask questions,
you just want an honest answer.

262
00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:36,040
But breaking your word isn't just a
David Cameron thing. Remember this?

263
00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:40,240
Broken promises. There have been
too many in the last few years.

264
00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,280
Too many in the last 30 years.
Fairer taxes...

265
00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,720
Nick Clegg knew five years ago
how pissed off people were

266
00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,600
about broken election promises.

267
00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,200
I believe it's time
for promises to be kept.

268
00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,680
So he promised that, if elected,
he wouldn't break any.

269
00:12:55,680 --> 00:13:00,800
It didn't turn out that way,
especially on college tuition fees.

270
00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,120
The leadership of the National Union
of Students is still bitter.

271
00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,440
Were you there
when Nick Clegg actually came down

272
00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,240
to the building and
signed the pledge?

273
00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,600
So I was involved
in the movement at the time, yeah,

274
00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,360
and I think people genuinely
thought, "This is the man,

275
00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,880
"this is the man who's going to
deliver for us as a generation.

276
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"He really cares about us."

277
00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,040
It was an exciting moment, I think,

278
00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,840
for lots of students
and young people

279
00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,080
because it finally felt like
their issues were being discussed

280
00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,840
and political parties
were taking an interest in them.

281
00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:32,360
But, for Nick Clegg, manifesto
promises weren't enough.

282
00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,560
He made a personal pledge to
students not to raise tuition fees.

283
00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:38,400
..the fair country we all want...

284
00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,840
Many were turned on by the charm.

285
00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,080
Thousands and thousands of students
went out to vote

286
00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,400
based on that pledge.

287
00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,040
I think students thought,
"actually, finally, here's a party

288
00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:51,040
"that's going to stand up for us."
But they got shafted.

289
00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,960
As soon as they got into coalition,
they decided that the people

290
00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,400
who voted for them
weren't their priority any more.

291
00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,360
Like there's no way that political
parties can make personal promises

292
00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,080
to young people,
get them out to vote

293
00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,200
and lie. Barefaced lied
to the faces of students.

294
00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,480
If you think you can manipulate
the democratic system in that

295
00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,480
cynical a way, just tell a barefaced
political lie, then actually

296
00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,360
it's not just about
undermining students' democracy.

297
00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,800
It's about undermining
our whole political system.

298
00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,200
Cool, man. Nice to meet you.
See you soon. See you later.

299
00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:33,400
'I tried to speak with the
Deputy Prime Minister. He said no.

300
00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,400
'I even tried getting on his
weekly radio phone-in programme.

301
00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,600
'No luck.'

302
00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,040
Maybe we can try again next week?

303
00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,320
But his Lib Dem Cabinet colleague,
Vince Cable, the Business Secretary,

304
00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:45,960
did agree to meet up.

305
00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,040
As I said, this is about trust
and we've brought a Bible along.

306
00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:56,120
So if you wouldn't mind saying that
in this interview you will tell the

307
00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,920
truth, the whole truth, and nothing
but the truth, so help you, God?

308
00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,720
Absolutely and that is the way I am.

309
00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,480
Can we do it together? Can we do the
truth? Hand on the Bible. After you.

310
00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,440
In this interview,
if you can say it yourself.

311
00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,520
Yeah, I'll tell the truth, the whole
truth and nothing but the truth.

312
00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,560
Well, that is fantastic. Good.

313
00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,560
Your party is often
mentioned by young people

314
00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,440
when it comes to the lack of faith
and that's because you

315
00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:24,760
broke your promises on tuition fees,
so now how do you feel about that?

316
00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:30,240
Well, I, we did and the party
leaders apologised for it.

317
00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,480
We weren't the only party
to have done so.

318
00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,200
The Labour Party twice promised
not to introduce and then increase

319
00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,840
tuition fees, and they did so, but,
we shouldn't have given the pledge.

320
00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,840
It was a mistake and
I think apologies have been given.

321
00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,320
I would simply say, as the person
who has actually had to implement

322
00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,240
the policy on higher education,
that it's turned out well.

323
00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,080
In fact, despite all the alarms
that were expressed at the time,

324
00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,640
we've now got more young people
going to university,

325
00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,480
more people from underprivileged
backgrounds to university.

326
00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,200
Universities are properly funded.

327
00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,800
Having made promises and having not
delivered them was wrong and I think

328
00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,240
our party has paid a price for it
and we've expressed regret for it.

329
00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,120
# I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
I'm so, so sorry. #

330
00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:18,360
They did say sorry and this cheeky
remix of Nick Clegg's apology shot

331
00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,840
to number 35 on the singles chart.

332
00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,160
# I'm so, so sorry. #

333
00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,920
But what about David Cameron?

334
00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,720
What would he say about
politicians promising the world

335
00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,240
and then breaking their word?

336
00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,400
He wasn't keen on an interview
but then I made a discovery.

337
00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,800
Guess what...

338
00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,360
if you have 50,000 quid to spare
to give to the Tory Party

339
00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,400
you become part of what
they call the Leader's Group

340
00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,440
and that guarantees you
dinner with Dave.

341
00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,960
I didn't have �50,000 to hand,

342
00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,400
so I popped down to the
Lord Mayor's Banquet in the City.

343
00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,440
'David Cameron was the guest
speaker.'

344
00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,440
Hello, there, squire.
My name's Jolyon Rubinstein.

345
00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,120
'Might the invited guests,
among them bankers and admirals,

346
00:17:08,120 --> 00:17:10,160
'spare me a few quid?'

347
00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,400
Just trying to earn some money
to have dinner with David Cameron.

348
00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,160
Apparently it costs 50,000 quid.

349
00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:18,560
Er, yeah, OK.

350
00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,160
You can check my bag
but I have no money it, sorry.

351
00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,440
I'm sure that would go some way.
I have no money on me, I'm afraid.

352
00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,480
'Funny how the well-heeled
never seem to carry cash(!)'

353
00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,480
You look absolutely dashing
this evening.

354
00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,400
We haven't got any money either.
I'm trying to raise �50,000.

355
00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,760
Do you think it's right that...
Thank you, mate.

356
00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,960
Do you think it's right
that, in a democracy,

357
00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,200
50,000 quid buys you
dinner with the PM?

358
00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,240
HE LAUGHS

359
00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,480
I'm not answering that one!

360
00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,440
I'll take that as a maybe?

361
00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,120
Is that the going rate?

362
00:17:49,120 --> 00:17:51,800
Well, apparently so.
Tonight it's free.

363
00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,120
Tonight it's free?

364
00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,920
I'm just trying to raise �50,000
to have dinner with David Cameron.

365
00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,560
Do you think we could agree to sort
of do a U-turn and sort this out?

366
00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,400
Anyone?

367
00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,840
Some people would think that
would be a way to influence

368
00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,280
but I can't really comment.

369
00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,920
Worth every penny, I'm sure.

370
00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,760
You head up a school and do you find
that a lot of young people

371
00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,600
feel that money
has kind of bought politics?

372
00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,880
Yes, I do, unfortunately.

373
00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,080
I don't think right across the board
but, yes, there's a huge disconnect

374
00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,720
between ordinary people
and politicians.

375
00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,760
Feel what I'm saying?

376
00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,040
'If �50,000 buys you
dinner with Dave,

377
00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,280
'I wonder what half a million
would get you?

378
00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,320
'Or a million? Or two million?'

379
00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,880
I do accept
political parties need money.

380
00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,360
You don't think
all those billboards and TV ads

381
00:18:46,360 --> 00:18:48,360
pay for themselves, do you?

382
00:18:48,360 --> 00:18:52,000
Fighting elections isn't cheap
and in Britain there are seriously

383
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,760
strict limits on state funding
for parties,

384
00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,640
so they need to raise a ton of cash.

385
00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,880
Last year, the three main parties
raised over 43 million quid

386
00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,680
in donations.

387
00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,200
The Tories get most of their funds
from the super-wealthy

388
00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,160
and the companies they run.

389
00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,440
They hold glittering fundraising
balls hosted by David and Samantha

390
00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,320
that would make Cinderella blush.

391
00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,560
At a recent bash, the guests
were reported to be worth

392
00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,720
a staggering �11 billion.

393
00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,040
Billionaire oligarchs, millionaire
bankers and powerful executives

394
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:32,360
were able to hobnob with
government ministers and the PM.

395
00:19:32,360 --> 00:19:37,240
The guests at Cinderella's ball went
on to give over five million quid.

396
00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,400
Better than a silver slipper.

397
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,120
But what's in it for
all these super-rich donors?

398
00:19:43,120 --> 00:19:46,320
I asked several Tory Party
donors to speak to me.

399
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:47,800
They all said no.

400
00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,080
But then one said yes.

401
00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,160
I'm at the famous strip club,
Stringfellow's.

402
00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,760
Its owner, Peter Stringfellow, has
given a load of money to the Tories

403
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,600
over the past few years.

404
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,040
Was this my chance to discover
the naked truth?

405
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:13,000
You're the only political donor
who's agreed to speak to me.

406
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,160
That is funny.
Why do you think that is?

407
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,680
Well, because... Let me
put you in the picture here.

408
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,840
My donations to the Conservatives
over the last ten years

409
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:26,400
will amount to, maybe, I don't know,
50,000, maybe, and that's it.

410
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,640
I want to be part of
a political situation

411
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,840
without getting too involved
and that's my touch.

412
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,120
I like the idea of being able to
speak to the people

413
00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:36,560
who make big decisions for us.

414
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:41,240
Real donors, the real guys,
are in millions, you know that.

415
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,440
Invariably, they can dictate
a little bit from the back.

416
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:49,400
So do you reckon the big-hitters,
they're doing it to exert influence?

417
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,160
Oh, yeah, well, of course.

418
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,080
I don't think anyone has actually
said to any political party,

419
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,880
"Here's �2 million, don't ever speak
to me again, and don't ring me,

420
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,000
"and don't make me a Lord."
Who's ever done that?

421
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,560
Be interesting. Maybe you should
check that one out?

422
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,240
'Since Peter had been the only
Conservative donor prepared

423
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,760
'to meet me, I thought
I'd give him something.

424
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,600
'The Golden Wallet Award,
for most honest political donor.'

425
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,600
I've never been given anything
in my life. I have no awards.

426
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,520
I didn't even get my certificate
for two lengths swimming at school.

427
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,280
I didn't even get that,
so this is it.

428
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,440
Thank you very much, ladies
and gentlemen. I appreciate it.

429
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,600
Peter had revealed almost as much
as his strippers.

430
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,840
He wanted to influence politicians.

431
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,200
But what about Labour?
Who funds them?

432
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,560
Well, this lot for a start.

433
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:45,080
Labour got just over �12 million
in donations last year,

434
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:49,000
some from rich individuals
but two-thirds from trade unions.

435
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,120
The unions have real power
over how the Labour Party is run

436
00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:56,320
and even over
the choice of party leader.

437
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,600
Wasn't this a clear example of big
organisations having more power

438
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,280
than ordinary voters?

439
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,720
'One of the union bosses
agreed to meet me.

440
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,960
'Len McCluskey, leader of Unite.'

441
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,840
There's a sense that
I get from young people

442
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,280
when I've spoken to them,
up and down the country,

443
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,720
that they feel that big money
in politics is a real problem.

444
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,880
It is right, they should be
concerned about that,

445
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,840
but don't hook trade unions in

446
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,040
with the super-rich
and the corporate elite.

447
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:31,120
Trade unions, our money is
the most open and transparent

448
00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:33,240
within the political arena.

449
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,160
Do we finance the Labour Party?
Of course we do, it's our party.

450
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,080
We created it 100 years ago,
you know.

451
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,720
Your grandparents, and great-great
grandparents decided that

452
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:48,160
ordinary working people needed
a voice in the political arena.

453
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,560
Len's a powerful man, a kingmaker.

454
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,200
He was key in anointing
Ed the Impaler, the man who cut

455
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,520
off his brother's political balls to
become leader of the Labour Party.

456
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,480
You can find people who are more
square-jawed, more chiselled...

457
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,040
LAUGHTER

458
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,680
..who look less like Wallace.

459
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,480
When did you fall in love
with Ed Miliband?

460
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,760
Well, I don't think
I'm in love with Ed Miliband.

461
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,600
So you're not actually
in love with him?

462
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,680
No, we can put that on the record.

463
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,840
I voted for him to be the leader
of the Labour Party... You did.

464
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:26,800
..because he was saying the things
we felt needed saying at the time.

465
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,040
'Len makes no bones about it.

466
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,320
'He'd been dead straight
about the power he wielded.

467
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,040
'I thought I'd bring him something

468
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,200
'to remind him
of what he'd achieved.'

469
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,320
Hi, this is the present for Len.
I'm just delivering Len the present.

470
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,160
Just make sure
you get your camera ready.

471
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,840
This, seriously,
is going to blow your mind.

472
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,280
Oh, my! Oh, wow! Just amazing.

473
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,440
'But it's not a gift from moi.'

474
00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,080
Thank you from
the Conservative Party. Cheese!

475
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,160
I mean, "Please vote for me!"

476
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,400
How's it going? Lovely to see you.
What are you doing?

477
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,160
I brought a present, basically.
I know that Len loves Ed.

478
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,880
Do you think
it's a fantastic likeness?

479
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,120
It's an image that will live long.
We don't want it.

480
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:17,560
Do you want to take it with you?
You don't want it? No.

481
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,600
You're going
to send me back with this? Yeah.

482
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,000
Looks like even your mates
don't really want you.

483
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,640
See you later. Thanks a lot.

484
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,520
Oh, Ed!

485
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,120
Ed, Ed, Ed, what are we
going to do with you?

486
00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:32,400
'I don't think it's his looks.
I don't think it's his hapless ways.

487
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,480
'I think it's that,
like many politicians,

488
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,560
'he doesn't excite
or engage the electorate.'

489
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,320
Guys, did you come here for
the unveiling? No. You sure?

490
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,000
You're welcome to a group picture.
This is Ed the Impaler.

491
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,000
This is Ed the Destroyer.
Edimus Maximus.

492
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,880
I think that knife's
going to come out soon

493
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,800
and heads are going
to start to roll. Cheese!

494
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,440
So what do you think of this guy?
What does he represent to you?

495
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,600
He represents everything
politics is, which is bullshit.

496
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,480
It's just all bullshit? Yeah.
Deceit. Bullshit, lies and deceit?

497
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,800
Yeah. Why do you think it's all
bullshit, lies and deceit?

498
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,320
They say everything that they
are doing for us but, it's just so

499
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,440
they get richer and we just stay
where we are, basically.

500
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,680
And no-one really trusts
the people who are in power,

501
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,720
like, who trusts politicians
because, Lord knows, I don't?

502
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,840
'There it is again.
Politicians being called liars

503
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,200
'who are under
the influence of big money.'

504
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,600
I feel that it's really important
that us, as voters,

505
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,320
are more important than donors.
Yeah.

506
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:37,000
Surely a different system of party
funding could help rebuild trust?

507
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,480
This guy, Michael Brown, certainly
helped damage that trust with

508
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,760
his massive �2.4 million donation
to the Lib Dems back in 2005.

509
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,880
Here's Michael three years ago
in jail in the Dominican Republic

510
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:59,720
awaiting extradition to Britain
to start a long prison sentence.

511
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,000
It turned out
the �2.4 million donation

512
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,240
was part of �36 million
he'd defrauded from investors.

513
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,080
It's a joke
and not a very funny one.

514
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,800
I went to see Tim Farron,
the then President of the Lib Dems,

515
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,400
to ask about the donation.

516
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,040
Will you hold your hand up for me?

517
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,640
I will say I swear to tell
the truth, the whole truth

518
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:23,880
and nothing but the truth.

519
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,760
Should the Lib Dems be giving back
the �2.4 million

520
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,600
given to you by the convicted
fraudster Michael Brown?

521
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,960
The honest
and straightforward answer is no

522
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,880
because we were given it
and due diligence was done.

523
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,160
The guy was a legit person,
as far as the law was concerned.

524
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,640
We took that money
in very good faith

525
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,680
and we are victims of that fraudster
like anybody else is.

526
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,600
'Aw, diddums!'

527
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,160
'The Lib Dems blame
the Electoral Commission,

528
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,160
'the government body that
approved the donation.

529
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,000
'Shouldn't I just go and
get the money back myself?'

530
00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:15,120
We're here to see
the Liberal Democrats.

531
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:17,800
It's only 2.4 million you owe us.

532
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,240
Hello, it's just
Racket Recoveries here.

533
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,680
We've just come to speak to you
about the restraint letter.

534
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,720
You won't be paying back
the �2.4 million?

535
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,160
We've been told we shouldn't.

536
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,920
It would be wrong for
one victim of a criminal

537
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,160
to have to compensate
another victim of a criminal.

538
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,440
Surely the criminal should
compensate the victim,

539
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,680
not the other way around?

540
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,040
Right, cool.

541
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,800
All right, boss.

542
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,640
I've been looking at this building.

543
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,880
The structure's
morally bankrupt, mate.

544
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,920
You're in a lot of trouble.
Have you got 2.4 million?

545
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,160
We're just trying to recover it.
What's that, mate?

546
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,400
It's a fan. How much is that worth?
A tenner, mate.

547
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,360
I didn't even know
Nick Clegg had any fans left.

548
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:06,120
Lib Dems Values there, boss.
Lib Dem Values.

549
00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:09,920
It's completely empty, isn't it?
Completely meaningless and empty.

550
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,920
Lib Dem Values, God!

551
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,640
Let's have a look. Lovely artwork
here, boss. Look at that. Nice.

552
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,040
'Say goodbye to broken promises.'

553
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,400
Like it! I reckon you'll only get
a tenner for the frame.

554
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,160
A tenner and a Pot Noodle, mate.

555
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,960
You know what, I reckon we could
make a fair bit of dough with this

556
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,440
down at that student protest.
Oh, yeah.

557
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,120
Painting for sale!

558
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:37,600
2.4 million quid for a painting.

559
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,440
Just trying to flog a painting.
Are you?

560
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,480
I'm from Racket Recoveries.
Met Police. Lovely to meet you.

561
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,720
Yeah, one million, a Pot Noodle
some toast and a cup of tea?

562
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,200
Anyone want to make an offer?
Dig deep in your pockets, guys!

563
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,920
I feel like this lot don't have
any cash or anything.

564
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,320
'The Lib Dems do want to reform
political party funding but for now,

565
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,560
'we're stuck with the current system
of big money donations

566
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,040
'because there's no agreement at
Westminster about alternatives.'

567
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,320
I mean, are we to believe
that donations are given

568
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,920
without strings attached?

569
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,840
No, I don't think
anyone would believe that.

570
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,560
And you don't believe that?

571
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,840
I don't think there's any such thing
as a free lunch.

572
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,240
I think donations are there for
a reason. And what is that reason?

573
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,080
People want to have access to power,
access to decision-makers,

574
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,520
I have no doubt about that.

575
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,600
Every party has got its own little
pie that it's protecting, which is

576
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,400
why none of them are willing to
compromise and come together.

577
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,640
It's almost like an establishment
collusion or conspiracy

578
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:41,160
to prevent any kind of genuine
funding reform, party funding reform

579
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,600
but it's almost irrelevant
who is in office, when you

580
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,880
have permanent relationships between
big business and the civil service.

581
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,280
And I have seen decisions that are
born of that relationship.

582
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,720
I have seen with my own eyes

583
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,200
decisions effectively
being written up,

584
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,760
policy decisions being written up by
big business, by vested interests.

585
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,400
Is it so surprising that many people
across the country now think

586
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,280
it doesn't matter who you vote for,
that big money always wins?

587
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,600
Is that what's brought
all these people out on the street?

588
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,800
So we've just come down
to Trafalgar Square.

589
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,160
It's the 5th of November.

590
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,800
Remember, remember,
the 5th of November.

591
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,880
FIREWORK EXPLODES

592
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,080
That was close.

593
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,600
That was really close.

594
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,800
'The demonstration is organised by
Anonymous, a collective of hackers,

595
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,320
'who say their goal is to hold
corrupt governments to account.

596
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,360
'They are part of a growing
movement of online activists

597
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,600
'challenging the status quo.'

598
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,400
'We are Anonymous.
We are legion. Expect us.'

599
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,200
We're not protesting
about any one thing.

600
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,320
The entire system in which we live
works for the wrong people.

601
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,120
I earn �300 a week and they take 20%
of that away in tax,

602
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,760
yet Nando's earn fucking billions
and they pay fuck all.

603
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,720
We're here because we fight for what
we want in life and what we believe.

604
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,080
You don't believe in nothing.

605
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,520
All you believe is ruining
and corrupting our world.

606
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,520
We're all in it together.
Do you feel that?

607
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,000
We're all in it up to here

608
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,840
and they're all in it up to here.

609
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,640
We want change.
We want to have a voice in there.

610
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,720
We want those MPs to speak to us.

611
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,640
Most people that we know
do temporary work for agencies

612
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,120
at minimum wage,
working split shifts,

613
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:33,160
to not be able to even afford to
pay their rent and feed themselves.

614
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,320
When we actually get real
representation, then I will vote.

615
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,760
Of course I will vote, cos politics
isn't just in that building.

616
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,000
Politics isn't just
on a ballot paper.

617
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,360
Politics is making your voice
heard like today.

618
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,040
I may not vote
but it doesn't mean I don't care.

619
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,920
And recently all those who don't
believe in using their vote

620
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,760
got their very own poster boy.

621
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,080
Yeah, no, I didn't vote.

622
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,560
Well, how do you have any authority
to talk about politics, then?

623
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,760
Well, I don't get my authority
from this pre-existing paradigm,

624
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,360
which is quite narrow
and only serves a few people.

625
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,200
I look elsewhere for alternatives

626
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,760
that might be of service
to humanity.

627
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,280
Don't you think it's irresponsible
to tell kids not to vote?

628
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,160
Um, you see what we've got
to be careful of, Jolyon,

629
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,600
is not accepting
other people's narratives

630
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,720
even on something as trivial
as a supposed celebrity statement.

631
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,960
What I said is, "I have never voted"

632
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,480
and then I was asked
"Why have you never voted?"

633
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,640
and I said, "Where I'm from,
it's the same reason I...

634
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,120
"You don't vote for the same reason
that you don't drink nail polish."

635
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,680
There's just no point. What you
going to drink nail polish for?

636
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,760
It's just going to
make your shit sparkle.

637
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:51,200
So the reason I don't vote is, I've
never seen anybody worth voting for.

638
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,200
I've never seen anybody
talking to me,

639
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,000
in the way that I talk,
about the issues I care about.

640
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,760
'Russell thinks
voting's a waste of time

641
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,640
'and that, instead, local activism
is the answer, but is he right?'

642
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,200
I've come to meet two Eastenders

643
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,960
who have become
unlikely political activists.

644
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,040
Solidarity.

645
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,160
Last year, Jasmin and Sam,
along with other vulnerable mums,

646
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,320
were forced to leave their hostel,
Focus E15,

647
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,440
following council cutbacks.

648
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,080
The council registered us
all officially homeless.

649
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,520
They offered us no support but
offered us accommodation in places

650
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,600
like Manchester,
Hastings and Birmingham,

651
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,560
where there's no support network.

652
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,960
But a stone's throw from where
they and their families have lived

653
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,040
for generations,
there are 377 empty council houses

654
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,080
and they and their kids moved in.

655
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,600
The Labour council says
the homes are uninhabitable.

656
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,960
This is one of the completely
unliveable properties,

657
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,800
according to the... And then you
look at the condition of the houses

658
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,240
they're putting people in.
It's unbelievable, isn't it?

659
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,760
How is this unliveable-in?
This is a power shower, by the way.

660
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,080
It's unbelievable, isn't it? I mean,
everything in here is brand new.

661
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,120
We just gave it a quick clean
and then put some furniture in

662
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,880
and it was ready to go.
It was absolutely amazing.

663
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,720
We've had this political
occupation to highlight the issue

664
00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:14,000
of people being socially cleansed
out of London, being made homeless,

665
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,360
when there's perfectly good homes
that have been empty for years.

666
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,680
We are being forced out of London to
Manchester, Hastings and Birmingham.

667
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,280
This is Jasmin and Sam
in an encounter with Newham Mayor,

668
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,040
Robin Wells,
the one rocking the bling.

669
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,040
'People are having to move
every six months...'

670
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,360
The council says they need to
sell the land the homes are on to

671
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,400
regenerate the area, and is taking
the girls to court to evict them.

672
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,880
Their story has gone viral.

673
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,240
This is a tweet from Russell Brand.

674
00:34:45,240 --> 00:34:49,920
It says, "Support Focus E15 mums
fighting for homes.

675
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,320
"This involves us all coming
today at 9:30 to the courthouse."

676
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,720
I think at a time we all feel
disillusioned and disconnected

677
00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:03,720
and political process
has no real relationship

678
00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:06,120
with our actual lives,
it's inspiring to see people

679
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,760
taking control of their own
political process.

680
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,800
CHANTING: Social housing is a right!

681
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,480
APPLAUSE

682
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,960
I don't know what's happened.
It looks like pretty good news.

683
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,360
We have decided to leave 80 to 86
Durham Walk on our own accord

684
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,040
by 7th October.

685
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,280
They were evicted. They was
no mention of the power shower

686
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,560
but, as a direct result of
Jasmin and Sam's actions,

687
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,360
the council's been forced to
open up 40 homes on the estate.

688
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,080
This is the beginning of the end
of the housing crisis.

689
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,240
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

690
00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:43,280
The importance of this protest
is that it raises awareness.

691
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,520
Had they not gone onto
that council estate

692
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,720
and occupied those properties...
That was smart.

693
00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:49,320
..you wouldn't have
come to see them,

694
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,360
you wouldn't be talking to me...
No, I wouldn't.

695
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,120
You wouldn't have come.
Don't you get all smart just cos

696
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,760
you're in a fucking pinstripe!
I wouldn't have needed to come!

697
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,960
CHANTS: Social housing is our right,
here to stay, here to fight!

698
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,360
Jasmin and Sam
had become political,

699
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,120
but the idea of them
looking to Westminster

700
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,960
was about as unlikely as Vladimir
Putin winning the Noble Peace Prize.

701
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,920
Let me ask you a question, cos
you said the MPs don't work for us.

702
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,920
Who do they work for? Themselves.

703
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,840
They work for the profit
and money in their pockets.

704
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,120
But aren't there risks in
this generation not voting?

705
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,920
Won't they become
even more marginalised?

706
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,760
Look at what's happening.

707
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,800
The government's raised
tuition fees

708
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,440
and cut benefits for the under-25s.

709
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:35,080
They face rising rents, rising house
prices and zero-hour contracts.

710
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,960
But no-one's helping them. Why?

711
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,800
They're not voting,
so politicians aren't listening.

712
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,240
It's a vicious circle.

713
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,400
I want to talk about sorting this.
Could I start a national debate?

714
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,360
Welcome to People Power Tower.

715
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,200
I've come to change.org,

716
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,560
THE company if you want to start
an online debate.

717
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,920
The way it works is,
a user is affected by a story

718
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,520
and they wake up and say, "This
is something I want to change"

719
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,960
and they go to change.org
and start a petition.

720
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,080
For example, this guy here,
a 16-year-old lad started a petition

721
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,480
on a Saturday evening, I think,
and ended up by Tuesday meeting with

722
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,880
the Deputy Prime Minister
responding through the site.

723
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,000
On a Saturday, started his petition

724
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,880
and on a Tuesday was walking into
10 Downing Street with 250,000?

725
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,000
Absolutely.

726
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,280
'I reckon a petition would really
get the conversation going,

727
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,960
'break the ice.

728
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,600
'John Coventry is an expert
in designing ones

729
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,360
'that catch the public eye.'

730
00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:34,400
One of the problems we've got,
I think, with our relationship

731
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,880
with our government is that

732
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,920
we've lumped Westminster into
this one homogenous kind of blob

733
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,360
that people just think
is the Westminster bubble.

734
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,120
There are lots and lots and lots
of really good MPs doing really

735
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,440
good stuff in their constituencies,
doing really good stuff on issues

736
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,280
that some people care about
more than others.

737
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,520
I think what I would encourage
someone to do is to be

738
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,920
less of a kind of bashing-someone-
over-the-head approach to getting

739
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,920
this kind of democratic engagement

740
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,840
and more maybe what people
call the golden path of retreat,

741
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,120
the ability to change public opinion
and take MPs with you on a journey

742
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,680
where they see a point that says,
"This is the thing we have to do

743
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,920
"in order to engage better
with our constituents."

744
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,560
No, I think that's totally,
totally relevant.

745
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,680
I mean, I think the amazing thing
about potentially working

746
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,960
with your organisation is
really honing this down. Yeah.

747
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,720
Couple of weeks, yeah, nice one.
Bye.

748
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:24,000
But how should I focus this debate?

749
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,400
One thing I've learnt so far
is that broken promises have

750
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,520
alienated the public's trust
more than anything else.

751
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,120
But there's a difference
between a broken promise

752
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,960
and an outright lie.

753
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,120
Surely the most serious lie
an MP could tell would be

754
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,360
to Parliament, because that's a lie
to 46 million voters.

755
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,880
Has it happened?

756
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,240
Sadly, some people think so.

757
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:58,320
There simply is no truth in
the claims that the United Kingdom

758
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:03,640
has been involved in rendition,
full stop. Because we haven't been.

759
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,960
That's Jack Straw, Foreign Secretary
under Tony Blair's government,

760
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,880
telling a parliamentary committee

761
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,200
that Britain was NOT involved
in extraordinary rendition.

762
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,000
That's what the CIA calls
the abduction of someone from one

763
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,280
country to another where they can be
interrogated and tortured.

764
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,920
And it's totally illegal.

765
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,160
But compelling evidence suggests
that he may have been lying.

766
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,480
But today,
a parliamentary bombshell -

767
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,760
a humiliating admission
that suspicions

768
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,480
of covert flights were true.

769
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:40,440
Jack Straw was responsible for MI6,
and some believe his signature

770
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,680
is on papers authorising
secret renditions.

771
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,640
That evidence will soon be
tested in the High Court

772
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,840
in a case brought against Jack Straw

773
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,200
by a Libyan tortured
after a rendition flight.

774
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,680
Jack Straw continues to deny
the allegations.

775
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:01,280
But what would Jack's constituents
think about extraordinary rendition?

776
00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:05,200
We're off to Blackburn to offer them

777
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,920
the same extraordinary
travel opportunities.

778
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,600
MUSIC: Come Fly With Me
by Frank Sinatra

779
00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:17,720
# Come fly with me

780
00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:21,000
# Let's fly, let's fly away

781
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,600
# If you can use some exotic booze

782
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,880
# There's a bar in far Bombay

783
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,760
# Come fly with me,

784
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,680
# Let's fly, let's fly away... #

785
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,360
BUZZER RINGS

786
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,000
'Hello, Jack Straw's office.'

787
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,760
Hi there, I was just wondering if
I could come and tell you about

788
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,760
all the free flights and fantastic
offers that we have going on
on Rendition Air?

789
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,520
Here we go. Hello there, sir.

790
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,800
I'm trying to tell everyone about
the free flights on Rendition Air.

791
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,520
I think you need to remove these.

792
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,560
We will be contacting the police
if you... Ooh! ..don't remove these.

793
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,400
Well, that's one gone. You may not
want to injure yourself with that.

794
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,520
Thank you. That's great.

795
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,360
Free flights! Free flights!

796
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,880
Would you like to have a flight
to somewhere,

797
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,560
you'll have absolutely
no idea where you are going

798
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,000
and no idea what you're there for?

799
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,600
Are you a Muslim? Yes.

800
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,680
Then you actually
qualify for our special offer.

801
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,320
Would you like to be taken somewhere

802
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,000
where you've got absolutely no idea
where you are going?

803
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,000
The CEO of Rendition Air is former
Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw.

804
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,640
Are you aware of his work? No.

805
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,840
Rendition is just the abduction and
illegal transfer of one person from

806
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,640
one place to another, That doesn't
sound like abduction, does it?

807
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,600
It's a free flight. It's a free
flight! What's wrong with that?

808
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,440
Oh, you work for an airline?
Cabin crew.

809
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,440
Our procedures maybe are
slightly different to yours.

810
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,080
How many passengers, generally?

811
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,120
Up to 189. Right, well,
there's only a couple on ours.

812
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,200
This is the seating position,
if you'd like to...

813
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,440
Oh! Be put down...

814
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,840
Agh! ..and then pushed down and
put into a stress hold like that.

815
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,480
Then you get your knee in the back
and you just have your arms

816
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,880
manacled together and shackled
to my feet. Ow, ooh! Ohhh!

817
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,960
And I'd sit here for how long?
Seven, eight hours.

818
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,840
Seven, eight hours.
Does that sound fun?

819
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,280
It's like a type of violent yoga.

820
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,720
Obviously, you'd have
a hood over your face

821
00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:14,280
so you couldn't see absolutely
anything, could you?

822
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,720
Do you know the director of
our company? I don't know.

823
00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:20,000
It's your MP. Our MP?
Do you know Jack Straw? Yeah!

824
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,640
He's the CEO of Rendition Air.

825
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:22,960
Like that, like that. Agh!

826
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,520
How do you feel about that,
hearing that?

827
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,280
That's... It's not nice.
It's not nice.

828
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,640
Whether or not Jack lied to
Parliament, one thing's for sure -

829
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,840
it's not actually illegal.

830
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,800
You heard it right - it's
not against the law for an MP

831
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,960
to deliberately
and knowingly lie to Parliament.

832
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,040
I wonder what the next generation
of politicians will think of that.

833
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,080
I've come to Westminster,

834
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,520
where Britain's Youth Parliament
is in session.

835
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:59,000
We are living in
the sixth-wealthiest
country in the world

836
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:04,120
but we cannot pay one in five
working people an acceptable wage.

837
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,320
What is going on?

838
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,360
Did you know that, currently,
it's actually not a criminal offence

839
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,760
for MPs to lie in Parliament?

840
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,200
No. What?!

841
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,480
It's not fair.

842
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,520
It's just disgusting,
to be perfectly honest.

843
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,560
You aren't allowed to lie on your CV
or about your degree, why should
you be allowed in Parliament?

844
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,800
In the law courts, you're told
to swear on the Bible.

845
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,520
If they can't be honest in the
place where everyone can see them,

846
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,480
everyone can hear them,
then why should we trust MPs?

847
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,360
That reaction had made it
really clear to me.

848
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,800
I now knew how to start a debate.

849
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,960
The petition would be about making
lying in Parliament illegal.

850
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,120
Would it strike a chord?

851
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,040
I thought I'd test my idea
on Question Time -

852
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,920
not THAT Question Time -

853
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,400
The People's Question Time,
where anyone can come to question

854
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,680
influential pundits
and politicians.

855
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,640
Jolyon Rubinstein.

856
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:07,640
Who wants to make lying
in the House of Commons illegal?

857
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,920
CHEERING

858
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,760
'Well, whoopi-di-doo.'

859
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,240
The first time that I've really
publically announced what

860
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:21,640
I want to do, and I was very
heartened by the response.

861
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,000
'Think we're going to cause
a bit of a splash.'

862
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,680
'The wording on my petition
was sorted.

863
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,000
'It was all ready to go.

864
00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:44,080
'Change.org had suggested trying to
win support from a politician

865
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,640
'or two - a big name
could work wonders.

866
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,320
'But where to begin?

867
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,440
'How about the new kids
on the block, Ukip?

868
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,000
'Surely Nigel Farage
would want to help?

869
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,000
'I tracked him down
at the Rochester by-election.'

870
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,280
Nigel, this is a documentary
about young people.

871
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,560
Can I just ask one question?
It's about young voters...

872
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,400
No, look, you've asked me questions
before in a stitch-up mode...

873
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,400
But this is a documentary
about young people...

874
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,840
Too late, I'm not interested.

875
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,600
'Oh, dear. I knew
I should've bought him a pint!

876
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,120
'I wasn't going to give up.

877
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,160
'After all, Nigel's admitted that
Ukip has a problem with liars

878
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,760
'in their midst, people accused
of being closet racists.'

879
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,560
The supposed salute

880
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,800
was my left hand reaching for
my friend's mobile phone.

881
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,360
INTERVIEWER: What kind of people are
these to be representing the party?

882
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,000
NIGEL FARAGE: It doesn't look
very pretty, and we have had

883
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,800
out of our 1,700 candidates
a handful that have embarrassed us.

884
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,640
Mostly because they simply
haven't told us the truth.

885
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,200
Nigel's accepted this
candidate's explanation.

886
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,320
But others have turned out to be
former BNP members.

887
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,480
I had an idea -
if I could help Nigel weed out

888
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,600
liars in his party, maybe
he'd in return support the petition.

889
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:01,880
So I'm off to Ukip HQ with
a sophisticated lie detector test

890
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,280
and my mates from Honest Solutions
to help flush out any BNP-ers.

891
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,960
Who are you looking for?

892
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,560
I'm from Honest Solutions.

893
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,680
We're just here to do
the lie detector test.

894
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,920
Hello there. No, no, can you...?
Nice to see you.

895
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,000
Yeah, I know you're...

896
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,800
I'm just here to do
the lie detector test.

897
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,840
No, you're not. Can you just go?
I am... No, can you go?
I know who you are.

898
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,640
Excuse me, you have been asked to
leave. Would you please leave?

899
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,040
Have you been part of the BNP?
Would you please leave?

900
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,400
OK, sure. Thank you.

901
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,160
Have you ever done a Nazi salute?
Excuse me, please... OK, sure.

902
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,720
Excuse me... Have you ever
been to "bongo bongo land"?

903
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:40,440
Excuse me, now, thank you. It
doesn't exist. Thank you. Goodbye.

904
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,840
OK, good, good, good.
All right, thanks for your time.

905
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,240
So you don't want to take
the lie detector test? OK.

906
00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:47,880
'We went downstairs
to set up outside.'

907
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,600
Hi there, lovely to see you.
Do you not want to take it either?

908
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,920
I think this is the one
that he turned up in.

909
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,040
Oh, you think Nigel's inside?

910
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,880
Oh, that would be good!

911
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,960
'We decided to wait to give Nigel
the opportunity to take the test
himself.'

912
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,200
Definitely working out
what he's going to do.

913
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,120
'And that's when the fun began.'

914
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,880
Careful!

915
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,920
They like to swerve into you.

916
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,160
And it's the forth lap
of the Range Rover challenge.

917
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,240
It's the fifth lap of
the Land Rover challenge.

918
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:22,680
Let's see if he tries to swerve it
into me this time... No.

919
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,080
And he's going again.

920
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,560
And there he goes.

921
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,920
'But then, out of nowhere,

922
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,880
'I got asked out on a date,

923
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,640
'and by a loyal Ukip official.'

924
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,080
What's your name? Liz. Hello, Liz.

925
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,360
I'm making a BBC Three documentary
about...

926
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,160
helping to clean your...

927
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,040
Wouldn't have anything to do
with Nige being upstairs, would it?

928
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,200
Oh, OK, all right.

929
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,960
I'm afraid that I can't...I can't
just accept coffees from women

930
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,000
I don't know, no matter
how lovely you are.

931
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,440
Could I do
the lie detector test on you

932
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,480
and then I'll think about
maybe having a coffee?

933
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,360
Can I show you how it works?
No, no!

934
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,800
The first question...
This is just the test.

935
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,640
Have you ever worked for the BNP?

936
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,640
And I would say no,
because I haven't.

937
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,560
The second question would be,

938
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,440
have you ever done a Nazi salute?

939
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,640
And I'd say no,
because I haven't either.

940
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,080
And the third question is,

941
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,800
have you ever been
to "bongo bongo land"?

942
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,920
And that's an obvious no

943
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,120
because "bongo bongo land", it
doesn't even exist, does it? Yeah.

944
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:39,720
And then the fourth question
would be, have you ever decided

945
00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:43,720
to change your party allegiance
before saying you're not going to?

946
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,400
'And then, master of disguise,
Inspector Clouseau -

947
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:55,640
'sorry, Nigel Farage - sneaked out
of an exit dressed as a builder.

948
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,120
'Let's just see that again.

949
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,920
'Yes, it's Nigel Farage,
leader of Ukip,

950
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,200
'dressed up as Bob the Builder?!

951
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:16,440
'And apparently all to get away
from me! What was he thinking?!'

952
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,680
You just lied to me.
You said Nigel wasn't upstairs.

953
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,520
Well, he just filmed him coming out.

954
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:28,400
'The lie detector was going nuts,
and I hadn't even put it on her!

955
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,480
'I guess that's what at Ukip
they probably call a "white lie".

956
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,840
'I'd failed with Ukip,
but what about other politicians?

957
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,280
'Would they support
Make Lying in Parliament History?'

958
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,720
You're a forward-looking MP -
take this on.

959
00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:50,200
If you can clearly define a lie

960
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,600
and if you can clearly prove that
a lie is deliberate, then what

961
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,240
you're suggesting is unarguable,

962
00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:57,840
but I wouldn't want to damage
parliamentary privilege

963
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,520
and I wouldn't want to make

964
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:05,000
Parliament even more timid
and feeble than it is already today.

965
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,640
Parliament has a code of behaviour
which perhaps could be strengthened,

966
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,040
I'm not disagreeing with that,
about misleading comments,

967
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,760
but that's quite different from,
you know,

968
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,200
making political debate
a criminal offence.

969
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,480
What we could do is reintroduce
some draconian punishments,

970
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,640
like maybe throwing liars to
the lions. Could you support that?

971
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,600
Yeah, well, OK. Yeah, sure...

972
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,720
That's a more interesting idea.

973
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,240
'Neither politician
would fully commit.

974
00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:39,640
'What the petition needed now
was some celebrity stardust.

975
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,560
'My mate, Jack Whitehall,
signed up.'

976
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,840
Do you think it's pretty
stupid, what I'm doing?

977
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,840
Do you think it's
a bit of a stupid idea?

978
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,880
Um, yeah... I mean, no,

979
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,280
I think it's a very honourable...

980
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:52,840
A stupid idea!

981
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:57,640
I think they may pay
very little attention to you.

982
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,000
'Professor Green signed up, too.'

983
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,880
Do you trust politicians?

984
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,080
I don't really trust anyone.

985
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,520
I don't trust myself at times,
so, in a word, no. No.

986
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,600
'And so did Rick Edwards.'

987
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,320
If MPs had said, "Yeah, we're all
going to sign up to this,

988
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,120
"we don't think MPs
should be lying,"

989
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:24,000
then that, as a message to us,
to the people, is very strong.

990
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,120
Ooh!

991
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,320
The wonderful Oona Chaplin
was up for some fun too.

992
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,800
We were making a video
to support the petition -

993
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,440
a spoof of the famous
Make Poverty History campaign video.

994
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,920
It takes seconds for an MP to make
a promise they can't keep.

995
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,760
We won't increase tuition fees.

996
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,360
That's a fib!

997
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,000
We're all in this together.

998
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,080
That's a whopper.

999
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,280
We have been getting slapped
in the face, lie after lie...

1000
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:57,800
..year after year.

1001
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,200
And the thing is, all these lies
are completely avoidable.

1002
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:04,640
Let's...

1003
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,440
Let's make lying
in Parliament history.

1004
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,280
It's D-Day for the petition.

1005
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,120
Oh, it's live, yeah, we're going.

1006
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:15,640
OK, it's live.

1007
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,000
Call your mum
and get her to sign it. Yeah!

1008
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,280
One supporter, but it is live.

1009
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,120
Yes! One supporter!

1010
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,760
I don't know if it's me, I think
it's Kat, think she signed it.

1011
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,200
Oh, I signed it!

1012
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,840
Oh, it's got two. We've literally
doubled the amount of people

1013
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,280
supporting Make Lying History.
That's great.

1014
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,760
Four supporters. Four supporters!

1015
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,360
Within two days,
over 60,000 people sign up.

1016
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:42,880
It's an amazing response.

1017
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,680
On Facebook, the video is getting
thousands of views.

1018
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,040
As the number of people signing
the petition continues to climb,

1019
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,040
the press starts to show interest.

1020
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,080
It's lovely to be invited
on your lovely show.

1021
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,840
Can I say, you have a lovely suit!

1022
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,080
You're beginning to
sound like a politician. Yeah!

1023
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,760
Is it politicians lying or
making promises they can't keep?
They're not the same thing.

1024
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,920
Whether it's the reality or not,
the perception is that MPs are liars

1025
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,160
and they're on the take.

1026
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,000
All these people clicking
their fingers, they've never lied?

1027
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,920
I wouldn't hazard to guess whether
they have lied, but they don't

1028
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,280
take up the highest office
in our country.

1029
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,160
And I'm here as well to say,
you know, to David Cameron

1030
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:27,040
and to Ed Miliband that we would
love to sit down and to talk to you.

1031
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,720
Dave, I know we've had our problems
in the past, you know, but, really,

1032
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:31,960
this is in good faith.

1033
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,360
There's a disenchantment
with people about politics,

1034
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,840
particularly young people,
and they don't trust politicians.

1035
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,080
I think they're right to.

1036
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,160
I think the majority of politicians
are basically honest people,

1037
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,760
but when you get to that senior
level when you're having to

1038
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,960
make statements that will be hung
around your neck,

1039
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,280
then you find this way not of openly
lying, not of telling barefaced

1040
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,920
lies, but of what I describe
in my books as lying without lying.

1041
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,480
'Can you believe it?

1042
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,960
'A former press adviser
to a Prime Minister

1043
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,200
'saying lying was an art form.'

1044
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,840
I worked as a spin doctor
for Gordon Brown for years,

1045
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,120
and what I found over time is that
I became part of that culture.

1046
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:08,480
I became part of that culture

1047
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,360
where you understood what you
needed to do was lie without lying.

1048
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,640
You were put in a position
where you lied without lying?

1049
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,720
Yes. I think all senior politicians,
at some point,

1050
00:54:17,720 --> 00:54:19,240
have to do something like that.

1051
00:54:19,240 --> 00:54:22,520
The political establishment
was sceptical,

1052
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,400
but our petition was trending.

1053
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,240
Tens of thousands of tweets,
thousands of comments and responses,

1054
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:30,800
our hashtag was blowing up.

1055
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,480
We'd started a conversation.

1056
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,640
Within a week, we'd got
over 100,000 signatures...

1057
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,880
..and 10 Downing Street agreed to me
delivering the petition in person.

1058
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,120
We'd reached the target and more.

1059
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,440
Might David Cameron agree
to talk now?

1060
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:55,120
After all, if �50,000
can get you dinner with Dave,

1061
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,280
surely 100,000 signatures
can get me a meeting?

1062
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,600
We were given a time and a day
by 10 Downing Street,

1063
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,760
and I tweeted out to my mates
shortly beforehand.

1064
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,240
A small scrum of supporters
had formed.

1065
00:55:09,240 --> 00:55:11,080
How are you? Good to see you.

1066
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,400
How are you doing, my man?!
Lovely to see you!

1067
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,960
I think what you've done here
is absolutely fantastic.

1068
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,680
'There was even a familiar face
from Anonymous.'

1069
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,960
The only way it's going to change
is if people get involved.

1070
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,440
The idea that the youth don't want
to get involved in politics kind of

1071
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:38,520
needs to stop being bandied about
as though it's fact. It's not fact.

1072
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:42,800
I think travelling for two hours
today to come down just to

1073
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,280
stand outside Downing Street
to voice my opinions to you

1074
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,760
kind of shows that I care
at least a little bit

1075
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,720
to do something with my day today.

1076
00:55:50,720 --> 00:55:53,200
You guys represent
sort of a fraction,

1077
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,960
I guess, of the people
who've signed this petition,

1078
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,240
and I guess I just wanted to say
thank you so much for coming down.

1079
00:55:59,240 --> 00:56:02,880
Anyway, I'm going to go in now
and bring it. So, thank you so much.

1080
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,360
HE KNOCKS ON DOOR

1081
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,000
Hello, mate, how's it going?
Not so bad. Are you good?

1082
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,520
This is 100,000 signatures.
Is Dave here? No.

1083
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,720
We've got a �50,000 cheque for him
and 100,000 signatures...

1084
00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:19,400
That's very nice. Thank you. What,
he's not even coming down to say hi?

1085
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,520
No. Oh, goodness me. All right,
well, that's all. Thank you.

1086
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,960
Thanks so much.
You'll make sure he gets it, yeah?

1087
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,480
And tell him I'm up for tea
or a dinner date or whatever.

1088
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,400
We won!

1089
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,960
It's done. That's it, they've just
agreed full-heartedly, completely

1090
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,080
different political culture, so it's
good. We can all go home, that's it.

1091
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,520
'If only it were that simple.'

1092
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:45,680
Thank you!

1093
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,560
Nice to see you.
Sure I'll see you again.

1094
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,400
Since delivering the petition,
I've not heard from David Cameron.

1095
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,080
But we've made a stir.

1096
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,920
And hopefully this film
will spur on the debate.

1097
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,440
Certainly, things need to change -

1098
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,400
the Facebook generation
needs to engage

1099
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,280
or they'll be the big losers.

1100
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,240
Will real change happen?

1101
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:08,720
Time will tell.

1102
00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:10,920
MUSIC: Would I Lie To You?
by Charles & Eddie

1103
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,160
# Look into my eyes
Can't you see they're open wide?

1104
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,200
# Would I lie to you, baby?

1105
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,240
# Would I lie to you?
Oh, yeah!

1106
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,480
# Don't you know it's true, girl?

1107
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,360
# There's no-one else but you

1108
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,560
# Would I lie to you, baby?

1109
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,280
# Would I lie to you?

1110
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,800
# Come on!

1111
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,880
# Everybody's got their history
History

1112
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:37,880
# On every page, a mystery
It's a mystery... #