1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,240 - AIR RAID SIREN - 75 years ago this week, 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,040 Britain became under the heaviest attack in its history. 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,600 This was Hitler's Blitzkrieg, or 'lightning war'. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,560 LOUD EXPLOSIONS 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,600 London endured 57 nights of bombing, but the Blitz also spread 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,400 to towns and cities across Britain, including mine. 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,080 - NEWSREEL: - 'The Luftwaffe attack from places all along the coast. 8 00:00:23,080 --> 00:00:26,000 'The struggle for the Western oceans has begun.' 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,280 I'm Ricky Tomlinson and I'm taking to the skies to discover 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,240 how my city survived the Blitz by the skin of its teeth. 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,240 Them docks are like a line of sitting ducks, really, aren't they? 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,200 - Exactly. - Because they're in a straight line, 13 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,480 and there's row after row after row. 14 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:42,920 I'll also find out just how high that price was 15 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,440 for those on the ground. 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,200 - I'd like to know what that man's thinking, there, standing amongst all that rubble. - Yes. 17 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,920 - He could probably be standing where his own house was. - Exactly. 18 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,840 Thinking, "What have I done to deserve this?" 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,640 And I'll meet the women of Liverpool who survived. 20 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,440 And the bomb came down. 21 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,680 You could hear it whistling down, 22 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,320 and we just grabbed each other in the bed, 23 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,520 the whole house on top of us, 24 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,640 and we both thought, "Oh, we're going to die." 25 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,280 MUSIC: There She Goes by The La's 26 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,680 I was raised in Liverpool and I've spent most of my working life here. 27 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,440 Not always as an actor, though. 28 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,840 No, I was a plasterer and trade unionist 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,160 long before I became a luvvie. 30 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,960 This city is my home and I don't think I'll ever move away. 31 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,840 My old neighbourhood was Everton, just outside the city centre, 32 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,400 and there was five of us in a small terraced house on Lance Street. 33 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:53,960 The neighbourhood's still there, 34 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,520 but it's very different to how it looked when I was little. 35 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,640 This is where I grew up during the war years. 36 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,400 And obviously, it's all changed now, but to see all these houses 37 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,280 with the space they've got, we didn't have that much space. 38 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,200 And in the middle of the street, with these brick air raid 39 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,000 shelters with the big, thick concrete ceiling on them. 40 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,000 And that's where we used to play, play of a day and of a night, 41 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,840 when the bombs came over, we would go inside them. 42 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,080 HE EXHALES DEEPLY 43 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,200 Hey... 44 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,360 Who'd have dreamed 50 years ago that I'd be sitting 45 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,520 here on someone's garden wall? 46 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,080 With all this shrubbery around me, it's as if... 47 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,200 I could be in the middle of an African jungle, really, couldn't I? 48 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,480 Because we never saw a blade of grass. 49 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,120 I could actually be sitting in what was our living room, 50 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,480 or the back kitchen. 51 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,200 That... 52 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,880 It's wonderful. 53 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,960 It's amazing and I'm so glad I've come back to see it. 54 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,600 This is more like how I remember it. 55 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,160 Cramped terraces. 56 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,160 Back alleys, gangs of kids playing in the streets. 57 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,400 The families here were poor, and it must have been 58 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,640 a struggle for our parents, even before the bombs started falling. 59 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,400 We never had a bath, or hot running water. 60 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,320 We only had a cold tap, 61 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,160 and my mum would fill the pan 62 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,320 and boil it, three or four of them, put us into a little tin bath, 63 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,080 and we took turns in getting bathed in front of the fire. 64 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,200 Albert being the eldest, then me, then our David. 65 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,760 And we'd be in one bed, upstairs, 66 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,720 because we were only a two-bedroom house, 67 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,920 and then we'd have a couple of blankets over us, 68 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:38,320 army blankets, and then a big army overcoat on top of us. 69 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,320 And everyone was the same. 70 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,480 No-one was too proud to admit that they had an army overcoat 71 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,560 on the bed to keep the kids warm. 72 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:46,920 That's the way it was. 73 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,320 It done us no harm, really, done us no harm. 74 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,920 I entered the world in September 1939, 75 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,480 the same month that Britain entered the war. 76 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,480 I don't remember much about the early years of the fighting, 77 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,440 so I've invited my big brother, Albert, 78 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,920 to meet me for a cuppa at my own cabaret club. 79 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,120 You must have been smelling the tea. Do you want one? 80 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,120 We never talk much about the war, 81 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,640 but as he's older, I'm hoping he remembers more than me. 82 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,800 Sort this tea out for us, will you, love? 83 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,440 Yeah, so, I'm busy at the moment. 84 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,120 I'm just...well, we're hoping to make a documentary about the Blitz, 85 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,200 so I'm looking for stories from old people, 86 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,360 - and just get some stories... - Old folks? That's why you brought me in, is it? 87 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,480 That's one of the reasons! You were older than me 88 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,440 - and I can remember quite a bit about the war, so you... - Well, you were the war baby, weren't you? 89 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,640 - I was born at the start of the war, wasn't I? - You caused the war, didn't you? 90 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,880 - Yeah, they reckon I was responsible for it, so... - THEY LAUGH 91 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,800 Heavy Blitz bombing raids began in London in September 1940. 92 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,280 Two months later, it was Liverpool's turn. 93 00:04:52,280 --> 00:04:53,800 LOUD EXPLOSION 94 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,160 - NEWSREEL: - 'Never in history has an entire people borne 95 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,280 'so frightful an ordeal so bravely.' 96 00:04:58,280 --> 00:05:01,400 At this point in the war, it was all going Hitler's way. 97 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,280 His army had occupied much of mainland Europe 98 00:05:04,280 --> 00:05:07,160 and they were within striking distance of Britain. 99 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,520 London's docks were under constant attack 100 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,600 and the English Channel was no longer safe. 101 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,080 PLANE ENGINES ROAR 102 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,000 But controlling Britain's West Coast, especially at the ports, 103 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,520 was also crucial for the Nazis. 104 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,800 'It is in shipping, and in the power to transport across the oceans, 105 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,240 'the crunch of the whole war will be found.' 106 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,000 Liverpool was the busiest port of all 107 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,760 and as the docks were just a couple of miles from Everton, 108 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,640 that meant our house was in the firing line too. 109 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,880 All I remember from when I was a young child was the air raid 110 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,600 shelters right outside the house, you know. 111 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,920 And then the sirens. We all remember the sirens, you know. 112 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,960 We hardly used the air raid shelters. 113 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,280 - You know, my dad only worked down the bottom of the street in the baker's? - Yeah. 114 00:05:54,280 --> 00:05:56,720 And as soon as he heard the sirens, whether it was morning, 115 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:01,120 noon or night, he'd be home, grab me on his shoulders, 116 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,000 my mum would grab you and we'd be down to Gran's. 117 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,040 That's my dad's mother's, remember? And into the basement. 118 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,320 - But Granny's was, like, a Dickensian place. - Oh, yes. 119 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:11,800 Five foot tall, five foot one. 120 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,800 But I remember people telling me that after the air raids, 121 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,000 all the bodies would be picked up and taken 122 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,360 and lined out in her lobby, and she'd wash them. 123 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,160 Sometimes she'd have to wash them down with a sweeping brush. 124 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,040 - That's how tough she was. - She was. 125 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:31,320 I can remember one particular time, we were really getting blasted. 126 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:32,800 It must have been 1941. 127 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,520 And Gran used to have the big, black fireplace with the oven doors, 128 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,840 - where there was a big slab of slate with a gas ring on it. - I remember. 129 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,480 Anyway, the sirens went off. We were down there. 130 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,080 Everyone was in the cellar. 131 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,560 And there was one hell of an explosion during the night. 132 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,080 And the house shook. 133 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,720 I'll never forget it. Everyone was terrified. 134 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,400 The women were screaming, the kids were screaming. 135 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,560 Anyway, everything's settled down, we come up the next morning - 136 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,600 she'd had a pan of cockles on this gas ring on the table, 137 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,520 and they were all over the living room. 138 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,200 They were up the walls and on the ceiling and everywhere. 139 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,240 Cockles. 140 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,080 You know me mam and dad, I mean, were they stressed out or what? 141 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,360 Well, everyone was stressed. 142 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:27,680 I think me dad was the worrier, you know. He was the worrier. 143 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,560 To us, as kids, it was just another day, you know what I mean? 144 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:35,720 Because while the sirens were off, it was just normal life. 145 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,040 Everyone went to work, we went to school, you know what I mean? 146 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,080 Do you remember when me mam used to...? 147 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,360 Our David had been born in the meantime, 148 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,520 so she had three lads, 149 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,800 and then me dad would be in work, 150 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,040 and the bombs would go off, so she'd grab us all in her bed. 151 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,360 - She was too ill to get us down the stairs... - Yeah. 152 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,240 ..and said, "If the bombs go, we'll all go together." 153 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,320 - Must have been awful. - Yeah. The thing is... 154 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,040 you just got on with it. 155 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,320 You know, it was something you had to do, 156 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,280 you just couldn't say, "No, that's it." 157 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,920 Who could have blamed people if they HAD reacted that way? 158 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,120 During nearly nine months of the Blitz, 159 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,800 the Nazis attacked ports all over the country, 160 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,040 from Hull in the East to Bristol in the Southwest 161 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,160 to Southampton, Plymouth and Portsmouth on the South coast. 162 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,560 They also bombed my neighbour, Manchester, 163 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,080 targeting its factories as well as the busy Ship Canal docks. 164 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,520 - NEWSREADER: - 'Day in, day out, the endless flood of crates and packages 165 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:37,400 'passes from ship to shore - foodstuffs essential to our needs.' 166 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,000 The men who caused the devastation 167 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,880 were the pilots of the Luftwaffe. 168 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,320 75 years after they first flew over Liverpool, 169 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,240 I'm about to discover how they carried out their attacks. 170 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,360 I'm at Hawarden Airport 171 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,280 meeting up with aerial archaeologist Chris Going 172 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,280 and pilot Bill Giles. 173 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,560 Just going through the flight plan to see if we can work out roughly 174 00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:06,200 how we're going to pretend to be a German flight this afternoon. 175 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,200 Before we go up, Chris is showing me 176 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,520 some rarely seen target documents 177 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,560 used by the Luftwaffe to plan their attacks. 178 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:16,720 This is how the German intelligence saw Liverpool. 179 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,600 - It come across... - This stuff got captured in 1945. 180 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,120 Most of it was trashed or burnt, but we did capture some. 181 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,640 If you enlarge it and look at it... 182 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,200 So, what do all the numbers signify? 183 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,240 They're all related to specific individual targets. 184 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:39,160 These are all targets which have a number 45, which means docks. 185 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,880 If you could strangle the docks, if you could prevent 186 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,840 food being unloaded or you could prevent armaments being exported 187 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,360 to support the forces in North Africa and elsewhere, 188 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,760 you were well on the way to winning the war. 189 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,840 And that was just what the Nazis were determined to do 190 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,440 throughout 1940. 191 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,040 - NEWSREADER: - 'The Luftwaffe attack from bases all along the coast, 192 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,000 'from the Arctic to the Channel. 193 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,360 'But this is only the centre of a wider battle. 194 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,640 'The struggle for the western oceans has begun.' 195 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,280 In the Atlantic, the Royal Navy was battling to protect shipping 196 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,840 from the Germans' deadly fleet of U-boats. 197 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,120 - MAN WITH GERMAN ACCENT: - 'In the first two years of war, 198 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,360 'the Allies have admitted losing three million tonnes of shipping 199 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:33,720 'to our torpedoes and guns. 200 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,120 'In this way, we will slowly strangle them.' 201 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,760 Supplies of food and equipment vital to the war effort were under threat. 202 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,200 On 1 August 1940, Hitler issues a directive - 203 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,200 the Luftwaffe were to start preparations 204 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,320 for the aerial destruction of the UK ports. 205 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,480 If the British government wouldn't surrender, 206 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,120 then Hitler's plan was to starve the British people out. 207 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,040 Finally, just before we go off on our flight, I want to show you 208 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,080 a night map. 209 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,560 These were carried in the cockpits of the aircraft 210 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:16,640 and they were for reading under red or blue night lights. 211 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,000 And here you can see just what their interest in Liverpool was. 212 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,840 - That whole strip outlined in red... - That's the whole of the docks, 213 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,840 - isn't it? - ..of Liverpool Docks. 214 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,040 - So, you live...Everton, just there? - There, yeah. 215 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,920 - That's, what, a mile, mile and a half from the docks? - Yeah. 216 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,400 - If that. - That's it, yeah. 217 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,840 A few seconds' flying time, you're right in the firing line. 218 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,440 That's amazing, isn't it? 219 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,160 That'd send a shiver down your spine. 220 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,360 It's the main artery to the rest of the country, 221 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,960 to getting stuff abroad and getting stuff in. 222 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,080 If he'd have done that, that would have been the end of the war for us. 223 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,160 Just looking at them 70-odd-year-old maps, 224 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:55,200 with Liverpool all marked out in red as the target for the German bombs, 225 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,360 is quite disturbing, really. 226 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,120 It's not a very nice feeling, really, not nice at all. 227 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,600 Armed with our target maps, 228 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,440 the time's come to get into the plane and recreate history. 229 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,760 - OK, is everyone happy and secure? - Yep. 230 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,520 I've never been on a plane as small as this before. 231 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,240 Although it's a calm day, I'm still apprehensive. 232 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,640 Might just be a little bit bumpy as we climb out, 233 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,800 just because of the bit of turbulence off the hills here. 234 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,440 But nothing's going to stop me taking this opportunity 235 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,120 to look at my city in a completely new way - 236 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,560 through the eyes of someone trained to destroy it. 237 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,440 How long would their flight take, do you think? 238 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,600 From the minute they left to get here. 239 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,840 Well, they would take a couple of hours 240 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,960 to get from their base to Liverpool. 241 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,920 One of the big problems, of course, was navigation - 242 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,360 making sure you could get to the target. 243 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,600 There was a blackout in the UK, so there were no lights showing. 244 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,960 So really, they were flying blind, to a great extent. 245 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,160 What the Germans tended to do was use specialist units 246 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,200 who had the latest technological equipment - 247 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,200 a unit called a Beleuchtergruppe, 248 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,080 the Firelighter Group. 249 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,480 And the idea was to set fires 250 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,280 so that once those fires are alight, 251 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,240 the main force, other bombers coming with worse... 252 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,720 or not-so-good navigation techniques could home in on the fires. 253 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,520 - NEWSREADER: - 'These raiders were the elite of the German Air Force, 254 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,520 'groomed for victory.' 255 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,440 The British were aware that the bombers followed fire, 256 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,800 so they built decoy sites. 257 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,160 We fool Jerry sometimes, though. 258 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,000 We bend his radio beams so he flies on a duff course, 259 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,280 then we light decoy fires in the open country for him to bomb. 260 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,560 Fake towns and factories were set on fire 261 00:13:55,560 --> 00:13:58,680 to fool the enemy into thinking they were real targets. 262 00:13:58,680 --> 00:14:02,680 Just a few wasted bombs could save hundreds of lives. 263 00:14:02,680 --> 00:14:05,520 One night we collected 230 AGs, 264 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,720 one oil bomb and a packet of incendiaries. 265 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,360 Our casualties were two cows and two chickens. 266 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,840 - Can you see those buildings in there? - Yeah. 267 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,640 Right, that's more or less where the decoy site was. 268 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,600 And if you look down, you've got a slight hint 269 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:30,400 that the coast mimics that further south round Liverpool. 270 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,760 Look to the right - can you see four gun positions? 271 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,760 - You can see four squares. - Yeah. - Yeah? 272 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,560 - Little sort of grey cubes. - Yeah! 273 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,040 That's anti-aircraft, so they had a gun site there as well. 274 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,760 Although the decoys had some success, 275 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,720 most planes made it down the River Mersey to their real target, 276 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,840 the Liverpool Docks - a narrow strip of land 277 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,960 that then employed nearly 20,000 people. 278 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,120 You know, really, them docks 279 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,480 - are like a line of sitting ducks, really. - Exactly. 280 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,160 Because they're in a straight line, row after row after row. 281 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,760 Absolutely. It's about six, seven miles long, 282 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,960 it's about half a mile wide, 283 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,280 and that was one of the most strategically important parts 284 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,000 of the entire United Kingdom. 285 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,000 So they must have dropped a third of a million incendiary bombs 286 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,160 on Liverpool during the war. 287 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,840 But one of the things that I find really amazing 288 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,600 is the air raids lasted a very long time. 289 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,560 So at any one time, there might be one or maybe two aircraft coming in 290 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,880 to drop bombs - it was like being, you know, in a bowling alley, 291 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,840 but a skittle at the wrong end. 292 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,760 So you would hear the bombs, four or five, 293 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,120 and then you would think, 294 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,280 "OK, I survived that one, maybe the next one. The next one." 295 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,840 How brave were them dockers, getting up every morning 296 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,600 and going to work knowing, KNOWING, 297 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,320 that they were going to be under attack that night or that afternoon? 298 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,400 Kissing their kids goodbye, kissing their wives goodbye. 299 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,760 They didn't know if they'd see them again, and vice versa. 300 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,800 And yet they never stopped, they kept the docks going. 301 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,800 - Fabulous. - Absolutely. 302 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,240 From up here, it's obvious how vulnerable the docks were, 303 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,600 as bombs rained down night after night. 304 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,840 What's even more frightening is just how close my street was 305 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,600 to the focus of the bombing. 306 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:14,880 This is amazing for me. 307 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,520 I'm flying over where all this action took place during the war. 308 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,720 I've just gone past all sorts of landmarks 309 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,640 that I knew, not only as a grown-up, but as a child. 310 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,800 - And you can see the Liver Building. - Absolutely! 311 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,200 So that's... That's right within the vicinity of where we were reared. 312 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,560 Exactly. So if they've flown sort of 300 miles, 313 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,240 it's literally seconds, 314 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,800 and precision bombing is not really something you can achieve 315 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,120 at this sort of distance. 316 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,040 You know, by the end of the war, 317 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,200 most of the casualties here were not dock workers, they were civilians. 318 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,760 Something like 2,500, 3,000 people were killed. 319 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:54,680 About 50% of all the housing in Liverpool was damaged in the war. 320 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:59,120 So, I mean, you've got a population of what, 870,000 in 1940? 321 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:00,760 Just under a million. 322 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:06,080 That's an enormous economic and sort of human price that was paid. 323 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,160 I knew before we took off that this would be a unique journey. 324 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,520 But I didn't expect it to open my eyes as much as it has. 325 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,720 I always think of Liverpool as a tough city. 326 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,440 But when you see it from the point of view of an aerial bomber, 327 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:24,640 it looks helpless. 328 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,440 Now I'm back on the ground, 329 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,080 I want to get a sense of what that helplessness might have looked like. 330 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,880 Anne Gleave is curator of photographic collections 331 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,760 for the Merseyside Maritime Museum. 332 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,280 She looks after the Stewart Bale Collection - 333 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,040 almost 200,000 original glass and film negatives, 334 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,040 many taken during the war. 335 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,000 These are vivid images of the destruction of Liverpool, 336 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,080 its docks and surrounding areas. 337 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,760 The city centre didn't escape, either. 338 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,760 So, exactly what is that, what is "the monument"? 339 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,240 That's the Victoria Monument. 340 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,080 - The one that's still there now, today? - Yes, that's right. 341 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,760 And you can see...most of the buildings around it 342 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,800 - have been completely flattened. - Look at that! 343 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,200 There's nothing. There's nothing. Everything's gone. 344 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,200 I don't know what to say about that. 345 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,320 - That's... - No, it is amazing, isn't it? 346 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,800 Look how close the damage is to it. 347 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,440 That must be a symbol, there must be something there. 348 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,040 There must be a message there. 349 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,760 The only thing I can say is God Save The Queen! 350 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,240 Oh, that's amazing. That's amazing. Wonderful. 351 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,920 This one's the Liverpool Overhead Railway in 1941. 352 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,200 Again, bomb damage during the Blitz. 353 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,320 I remember, as bad as that damage was, 354 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,000 - they restored the overhead railway, didn't they? - Yes. 355 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,160 I remember going on it many, many times. 356 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:59,120 - And then this. - This was in Bootle, 357 00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:01,640 which was hit very badly during the Blitz. 358 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,440 And as you can see, there's a lot of domestic housing there. 359 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,960 Yeah. My wife's from Bootle, her father worked on the docks. 360 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,120 During that time, obviously. 361 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:14,000 I lived in the Everton area of Liverpool 362 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,840 and we got bombed pretty bad. 363 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:20,720 And I didn't even know until now that Bootle got it as bad as this. 364 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,960 Bootle is home to the north end of Liverpool's docks. 365 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,240 Proportionately, it saw more destruction 366 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,640 than anywhere else in the UK. 367 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:33,960 Of its 17,000 houses, only 40 were undamaged. 368 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,040 I would like to know what that man's thinking, 369 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,960 standing there amongst all that rubble. 370 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,600 - He'd probably be standing where his own house was. - Exactly. 371 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,200 And thinking, you know, "What have I done to deserve this? Why?" 372 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,200 Just looking at them photographs frightens me to death. 373 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,720 I'm overwhelmed by the devastation, the hopelessness, 374 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,040 the look on them people's faces, the men with the flat caps looking, 375 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,680 the women huddled together, 376 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,720 one or two kids with their hands in their pockets 377 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,280 and their little stockings pulled up to their knees. 378 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,240 What must have been going through their minds 379 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,040 looking at that devastation? It was shielded from me. 380 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,400 It was shielded from my eldest brother. 381 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:10,800 We knew the bombs had gone off 382 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,680 because our own house nearly went up, 383 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,000 but that's all we knew. 384 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,560 We didn't know the devastation, the hopelessness, 385 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,160 people losing their homes, 386 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,920 nowhere to go to school and stuff like that. 387 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,480 I'm just lucky that I was... 388 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,920 Although I was in the war and I remember the bombs 389 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,280 and remember hiding under the stairs and me mam cuddling us in bed, 390 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,040 I wasn't old enough to realise 391 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:37,080 the hopelessness and the devastation that was going on all around me. 392 00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:50,640 If only Victoria could talk, eh? 393 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,160 She'd certainly be able to explain what it was like 394 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,680 to live through such a massive bombardment. 395 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,600 But there are others who are still around to do that. 396 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,280 People like Margaret Lunt. 397 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,120 She's 89 now, and can remember it all clearly. 398 00:21:04,120 --> 00:21:06,920 - How are you? - I'm all right, fine, thank you. 399 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,320 Take me inside, tell me some of these lovely stories you've got. 400 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,080 We're meeting at St Luke's, a beautiful city centre church 401 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:19,640 gutted by fire on the morning of 6 May, 1941. 402 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,680 It's never been restored, and today it stands as a symbol 403 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,400 of what Liverpool went through during the Blitz. 404 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,400 Isn't it magnificent? What must it have been like in its heyday, eh? 405 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,840 Now, listen, Margaret, it's not very nice 406 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,920 for a man to ask a lady how old she is, 407 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:41,320 but tell me, how old were you when this church got bombed? 408 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,800 When this church got bombed, I was about 15. 409 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,880 A teenager, eh? Must have been terrifying for you. 410 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,560 Well, it was a bit frightening at the time. 411 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,400 It was all, like, adventure, to begin with. 412 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,720 So, where were you living when all this was going on, Margaret? 413 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,920 Just down the road, Blundell Street. 414 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,160 Not far from the Albert Dock, really. 415 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,160 They seen plenty of action, didn't they, the docks? 416 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,720 - You can remember it all? - Oh, yes. 417 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,560 We were in the air raid shelter in Jordan Street... 418 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,680 Wasn't your dad a docker? 419 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:21,640 My father was on the docks, and then he was the air raid warden 420 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:26,280 when the war started, along with two others in our district. 421 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:34,520 And we also had a lot of activity by what we called the Pioneer Corps, 422 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:39,440 who done a lot of hard work, and they don't get a mention, really. 423 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,680 You must have been worried when your dad was an ARP warden walking round. 424 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,760 Yes. One time he was a long time coming back in 425 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,560 and we wondered what happened. 426 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:55,520 But the horses were panicking because of the fire, 427 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,080 it was in the greaseworks, 428 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,000 and the grease was running down the street... 429 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,480 on fire. 430 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,600 So they had to let the horses out, 431 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,720 and the next thing was they were running along the street 432 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,040 and we thought it was a new secret weapon. 433 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,720 We didn't realise it was the horses. 434 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,480 You know, other little things like that. 435 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,040 So, at this time, Margaret, where were your brothers and sisters? 436 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,640 Were they still in Liverpool or had they gone by now? 437 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,880 My sister-in-law was in Wales, and my sister, 438 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,200 they all got evacuated because they had young children. 439 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:37,360 And then my brother was in the Tank Corps in the 8th Hussars. 440 00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:41,560 The last time I saw my brother was in the air raid shelter, 441 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,800 and he came home on compassionate leave, 442 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,000 and... 443 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,280 We were learning him the words of 444 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,760 Yours Till The Stars Lose Their Glory, 445 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,680 because it had only just come out, 446 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,920 and so he was trying to learn it so that when he went back, 447 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,960 he could sing it. 448 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,280 - And so that's the last time I saw him. - Ah. 449 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,880 Never saw him after that. 450 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,280 How old would he be when he got killed? 451 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,080 Well, he'd be 30-something. 452 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,480 Young man. 453 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:17,520 Mmm. 454 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,280 - How sad. - Yeah. 455 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,320 When you think about it, it was very sad. 456 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,000 Talking to Margaret makes me appreciate how fortunate I was 457 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,960 not to have lost any close family members during the war. 458 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,520 Me dad was lucky enough to work in a protected industry as a baker, 459 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,440 although "lucky" was a word he probably didn't use himself. 460 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,160 So, just over there, to the right, 461 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,160 was Kelly's Bakery where my dad worked with another man. 462 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,040 It was just the two of them in the bakery. 463 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,240 One little nasty sort of incident that happened during the war 464 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,880 is me dad actually went away to join the Army, 465 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,920 and in fact he was away for three days, 466 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,800 but when they found out he was a bread baker, 467 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:16,000 they said he was more important to the local community 468 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,640 than to fighting in the Army, and they sent him home. 469 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,400 And he really wanted to go away and fight for his country. 470 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,440 And now and again he got a little bit of stick. 471 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,200 Having people making little skits made him very, very frustrated, 472 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,760 but I suppose the one thing he could take from it, 473 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,320 it wouldn't be people he knew 474 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,000 because all those who knew him knew that he'd been away, 475 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,560 signed up, wanted to join, and had actually 476 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,720 been sent back from Scotland to carry on his job. 477 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,160 My dad's bakery was near Everton Park, 478 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,600 which provides a perfect view of the port. 479 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,600 People used to come here and stand on this high point 480 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,920 and just see the flames all around the docks 481 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,720 when the bombing was going on. 482 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,560 And the skies used to light up and people used to stand here 483 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,200 and watch it as if you would stand and watch a bonfire. 484 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,240 Watching the bombing during the war must have been a harrowing sight, 485 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,000 especially in May 1941 486 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,280 when the docks burned for seven consecutive nights. 487 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,440 I've always been fascinated by our docks, 488 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,280 even more so now that I know what part they played in the war. 489 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,560 I'd still like to find out more, though, 490 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,480 so I've arranged a tour with a historian, Mike Royden. 491 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,320 We're starting at the highest point, on top of a grain silo. 492 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,480 Liverpool had taken a bit of a decline 493 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,280 just after the First World War 494 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,720 and when the Americans started to help us with supplies, 495 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,120 - this was going to be the major port. - All the different cargo - 496 00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:42,800 munitions, food, hospital gear - coming in and out, going abroad, 497 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,120 looking after the soldiers and stuff like that. 498 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:48,080 Must have been absolutely amazing. 499 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,800 Of course, when the Blitz began, it suffered major damage 500 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,000 in those few days in May. 501 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,720 At least half of the berths had gone out of action 502 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,840 during that time. And in fact, when the bombing took place, 503 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,800 there were ships in being worked on and loaded. 504 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,280 Probably as soon as the siren went the all-clear, 505 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,200 they'd be back out loading the ships, getting munitions on and off. 506 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,520 - That's quite right. - So really, they must have had the heart of a lion, 507 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,000 mustn't they, to have worked under them conditions. 508 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,880 They must have been incredibly brave. 509 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,880 The courage of the dock workers was tested to the limit 510 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,800 during the May Blitz of 1941, 511 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,720 when the HMS Malakand, a large ship loaded with munitions, 512 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,880 was destroyed in Huskisson Dock. 513 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:32,200 It led to the largest explosion in the city's history. 514 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,720 This is where the Malakand was. 515 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:40,560 170-foot vessel that was berthed here on the night of 3 May 1941, 516 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,280 and an incendiary hit the deck, and the men 517 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,840 were struggling to try and stop the fire spreading everywhere else, 518 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,400 but what they were worried about, of course, 519 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,160 was it's going to spread into the ship itself, 520 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,360 because the vessel was carrying almost 2,000 tonnes of munitions. 521 00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:57,680 2,000 tonnes? 522 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,840 Yeah, and if that was going to ignite, 523 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,040 the whole thing was going to explode. 524 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,400 You can see how frantic they were in their fight. 525 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,920 Who was in charge at the time, the captain of the ship? 526 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,640 Incredibly brave man called Captain Kinley. 527 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,160 He had a number of officers on board and 60-odd lascar sailors as well. 528 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,880 It was absolutely frantic, the scene you would have seen here - 529 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,280 the flames going everywhere, trying to get fire engines in, 530 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,080 men running all over the place trying to put things out, 531 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,600 it must have been unbelievable. 532 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,920 In the end, around about half seven in the morning, 533 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,560 Kinley said, "Abandon ship," and it was just as well he did, 534 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,000 because a few minutes later the whole thing went up. 535 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,840 Absolutely... It was the biggest explosion that the city had seen. 536 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,040 That was throughout the war, not just on that night. 537 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,920 2,000 tonnes, you can't imagine it, can you, going up? 538 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,040 When you can see the damage one shell can do or one grenade can do. 539 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,400 And the debris was flying all over the place. 540 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,120 It was hitting other ships - an anchor actually flew about 400 yards. 541 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,520 One piece even sliced through a horse that was pulling a cart 542 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,200 on the dock road. 543 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,320 But what was also worrying at that time, 544 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,800 they wondered how much longer Liverpool could withstand this, 545 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,240 especially the docks. Because much longer on that, 546 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,560 and maybe that would have brought Liverpool to its knees. 547 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,200 But thankfully, the Luftwaffe 548 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,480 didn't really have a particularly organised long-term plan, 549 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,640 and Hitler's attention then turned towards Russia, 550 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,600 and thankfully the Luftwaffe was shifted over there instead. 551 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,720 Their loss was our gain. It's a terrible thing to say, 552 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,640 but thank God it happened that way 553 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,400 because we mightn't be standing here now talking, mightn't we? 554 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,760 I never knew that Liverpool was literally days from being beaten. 555 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,160 But we got through, 556 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,400 thanks in large part to the resolve of the people. 557 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,040 And I'm not only talking about the dock workers, 558 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,360 but all the others too, 559 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,120 like the women of the city who worked tirelessly 560 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,800 to support the war effort. 561 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,320 Women like my mam, who struggled to keep the family alive at night 562 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,640 and feed them during the day. 563 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,720 Some of them were just girls at the time. 564 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,080 But I want to hear their stories, 565 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,800 so I've come to the Poppy Centre 566 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,720 to meet a group of women who all survived the Blitz. 567 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,080 - Cup of tea. - Cup of tea? - Cup of tea already for me! 568 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,920 - Oh... - What more do you want? 569 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,720 I want some lovely stories off you about the war. 570 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,760 I was 11 when it started, 16 when it finished. 571 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,280 And I can remember 572 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,680 the first day of the war, when we were at church 573 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,960 and the priest come and said the war had started. 574 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,080 Next thing was when we went out, my brothers were queuing up already 575 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,360 to go and join the Army. 576 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,160 When it first started we used to go down in the air raid shelter - 577 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,280 three of us, my mum and dad, the cat and the dog. 578 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,840 They'd stay there till morning. 579 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,560 Was it a brick air raid shelter? 580 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,480 No, it was the Anderson shelter in the garden, 581 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,320 and you covered it over so you couldn't see 582 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,400 and you had plants, flowers and things on. 583 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,440 What about the ones 584 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,680 in the street, all the way over...? 585 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,040 That's what we had. 586 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,000 - They were brick. - They were made of bricks, 587 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,720 and sometimes we stayed there all night. 588 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,920 Where I lived, in Lamb Street off Heyworth Street, 589 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,000 in the panic and the pandemonium in the pitch dark, 590 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,000 you couldn't find your way around. 591 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,600 There was an old man lived across the street called Mr Hart 592 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,600 and he used to get your hand and take you in. 593 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,760 And I could never understand how he could do it, but he was blind, 594 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,720 so he didn't need any lights! 595 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,960 One night my dad said, "Ooh, they seem to be getting awful close," 596 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,240 so he said, "I'll go out and have a look." And as he did, 597 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,440 they dropped all the shrapnel and he got a big piece under his eye 598 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,320 and it went right through his eye and was there on his cheekbone, 599 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,440 it was a big square. 600 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,880 He used to say to us all, "Feel it there!" 601 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,400 And what did you say to him? 602 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,680 "That's what you get for nosing!" 603 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,720 THEY ALL LAUGH 604 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,000 Yeah. Yeah. 605 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,760 - So you could still have a laugh in the middle of the war. - Yeah. 606 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,480 Come on, Doreen, you can tell me your little story now. 607 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,120 Dad was on fire watch, and me mother had the poor boys 608 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,920 in the parlour, and me and my sister, 609 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,800 we sneaked up to bed. Nobody knew we'd gone up there. 610 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,800 And the bomb come down... 611 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,960 We could hear it whistling down. 612 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,880 And we just grabbed each other in the bed, 613 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,520 and the whole house on top of us, 614 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,840 - and we both thought, "Oh, we're going to die." - OTHERS: Yeah. 615 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,240 And then my father realised that we were still in there, 616 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,000 and he started moving the bricks one by one. 617 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,320 They heard us crying, and they finally found us, 618 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,920 and, er... 619 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,200 brought us out. We had no clothes on, they were blown off us. 620 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,880 One of the reporters came to take our photograph 621 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,200 and me dad chased them. 622 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,320 He said, "You're not photographing my daughters," he said, 623 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,720 - "they've got no clothes on!" - Quite right. Absolutely right. 624 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,920 Listening to these women talk, I recognised their resolve 625 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,440 in the memories of me mam. 626 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,120 But while we had parents looking out for us, 627 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,080 Nancy was a young mum herself. 628 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,400 What about you, young lady, what can you remember? 629 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,160 - Well, I lost my little boy, my baby. - Aww. 630 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,320 That was me saddest thing of the war. 631 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,480 I had a little girl, and I was having me second baby. 632 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,520 And it came early, it was seven weeks early. 633 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,200 It was a terrible night. It was in the Blitz, 634 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:27,080 and the nurse didn't want to come out, she was frightened. 635 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,120 And he only lived a couple of hours, 636 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,000 and then he had to be buried. 637 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,560 But, er, I didn't have a lot of money, 638 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,480 so I hadn't got enough money to pay for the funeral. 639 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,440 George got a box, they gave him a wooden box. 640 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,160 And I worry over it now, even although it's a long time, 641 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,160 thinking he didn't have a proper coffin. 642 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,520 He knows you loved him, it doesn't matter what they buried him in. 643 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:55,960 But that's the main. 644 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,440 And he was buried with a lady. 645 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,480 In his...in her coffin. 646 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,760 So that was lovely. I called him David George. 647 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,640 - Yeah. But he'd have been 74 now. - 74! 648 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:15,200 And me other daughter, she's 75 next month. 649 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,840 Your stories are unbelievable. They make me quite angry, 650 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,320 because of what's gone on, 651 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,400 but they make me feel very, very sad at the same time. 652 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,520 Honest to God, I can't thank yous enough. 653 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,560 What yous done, I mean, I was only a kid and it rolled over me, 654 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,840 you were wonderful! You were absolutely wonderful. 655 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,720 You were the bulldog breed, I mean that. 656 00:34:37,720 --> 00:34:40,840 That meeting with them five wonderful old ladies 657 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,200 made me feel so humbled. 658 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,760 They were absolutely magnificent. 659 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,040 And do you know, no wonder we won the war, 660 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,200 because with people like that, camaraderie like that, 661 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,640 and a fighting spirit like that, how could you lose? 662 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:56,840 They were wonderful. 663 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,080 Before I finish my Blitz journey, I've decided to catch up with 664 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,680 an old mate of mine from Liverpool's comedy circuit, Stan Boardman. 665 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,840 I've known Stan for nearly 50 years, 666 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,160 and he's always good for a bit of banter and a few old jokes. 667 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,480 - I started at the MAA Club... - BOTH: ..in Sheil Road! 668 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:26,720 You know, it's funny. 669 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:30,000 We're about the same age and we were both brought up during the war, 670 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,840 just a mile or so apart, and yet 671 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,360 we've never spoken to each other about it. 672 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,840 That means I've never heard his incredible story - 673 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,080 until today. 674 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,040 - This is where me mam's house was, and see that tree? - Yeah. 675 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,840 That probably was in her front room, that tree. 676 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,560 Who'd ever thought that there'd be a tree... 677 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,680 where you live? 678 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,160 And I wish that this would have been here when I was a lad. 679 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,600 I would have loved it. 680 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,440 Just round the corner here, it was Morley Street, 681 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,120 and it was a shelter, a communal shelter, 682 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,360 and everybody in the street, when they heard the sirens going, 683 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,160 they'd all rush out the houses. 684 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,320 Gives me the creeps even now, when I hear the fire sirens 685 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,840 from the local fire station. 686 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,640 Them days, they used to say, "The Germans are coming." 687 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,760 I had a babysit... 688 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,160 I was being baby-sat by a girl called Mary Munroe, 689 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,520 my mother used to tell me about her. 690 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:26,080 And we ran to the thing and I sat...she sat me on her knee. 691 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,880 My mother was there, sitting on, like, stools, 692 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,720 and it was pitch-black and dark. She had a baby on her knee - 693 00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:36,280 our Ada - and Tommy, my brother, was sitting next to them. 694 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:41,760 On that fateful night, the Germans did come and they bombed Liverpool. 695 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,880 And all the shelter was blown up 696 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,800 and all the people in the shelter were either killed or injured. 697 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,760 And I found out... 698 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,160 My mother told me when I was a little bit older 699 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,200 that the girl who... 700 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,920 I was sitting on her knee, 701 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,880 - Mary Munroe, she was killed. 14. - No way. 702 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,520 All her family sat on that side of the shelter, 703 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:09,040 they were all killed, and my brother Tommy, he lost his life as well. 704 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,920 So the bricks and everything must have hit him on the head. 705 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,280 I woke up next morning... 706 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,440 on the side of the road here on a slate 707 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,240 and the sun was...morning was just coming up. 708 00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:24,440 You could smell the burning, grit in my teeth, 709 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,680 and every time I feel a bit of grit in my teeth... 710 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,440 - It reminds you. - It reminds me of that night. 711 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,560 And my Uncle Arthur, 712 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,040 he came down cos he only lived up there. 713 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:40,280 He was 16, 17 and he came over and he found me in the morgue 714 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,000 because the place was just littered with bodies and people were... 715 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:49,040 And he found my brother Tommy, who was dead, 716 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,440 and he found me. Luckily enough, I wasn't injured, 717 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:58,600 only because Mary Munroe must have fell on me and saved my life. 718 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,600 - She took the blast, didn't she? - Mary Munroe, God bless you. 719 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,520 - Mary, if you're up there, thank you, love. - She will be, eh? Ah. 720 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,640 Around 4,000 people from Liverpool and its surrounding areas 721 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,080 lost their lives during the Blitz - more than anywhere outside London. 722 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,240 Like many victims, Stan's family didn't know where Tommy was buried. 723 00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:25,480 But a few years ago, his sister traced their brother to 724 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,200 an unmarked grave in the Kirkdale Cemetery. 725 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,320 This is the one here. Look, this. 726 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,360 It's only a little plaque. We only put it down four years ago. 727 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:48,480 All my sisters came around here, said a prayer for Tommy, 728 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,640 for Mary Munroe and the rest of the people 729 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,120 who were all killed round the Kirkdale area. 730 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,920 This here is a trench... 731 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,520 and all the people in the street were buried in here. 732 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,880 I bet you there's a lot of relatives don't know 733 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,240 that their loved ones have been buried here. 734 00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:10,760 So, your dad, he was in the army while all this was going on? 735 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,640 My dad was in the Royal Artillery. 736 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,040 He was in Woolwich in London, so he was protecting London 737 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:22,240 and I often wonder and think what it would have been like for him. 738 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:26,440 His house is gone, his family is gone, the streets have gone 739 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,480 and your son has been killed. 740 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:35,960 What it was like for him that day to get back to Liverpool on leave, 741 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,600 to come on a train, which probably took him hours and hours and hours, 742 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,560 and for him to sit on that train, wondering what he's going to expect. 743 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,000 Everything going through his mind. Was he finished with the war? 744 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,040 Well, the sad thing about it was he stayed. 745 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,160 He got two weeks' compassionate leave 746 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,520 to get his family housed and homed 747 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,840 and get my brother buried, 748 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,520 and he was three days over his leave. 749 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,480 So then the police came, they arrested him, 750 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,520 took him to jail in Liverpool and... 751 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,040 Just for staying three days over his leave. 752 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,000 That's scandalous, that's scandalous. 753 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:18,080 So he had to do his stint, even though he's lost his house, 754 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,760 he's lost his son. 755 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,600 Nearly lost his wife. 756 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,680 Nearly lost his wife, nearly lost me. 757 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,400 And he was a very quiet man - never spoke about the war, 758 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,720 never spoke about the air raids, never spoke about Tommy. 759 00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:35,480 - Nothing? - Nothing. - Couldn't do it, couldn't bear it. 760 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,640 Couldn't bear to talk about it. 761 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,040 I think a lot of people couldn't talk about the war, 762 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,960 bring back bad memories. 763 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,920 I thought I knew my city, I thought I knew my friends. 764 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,360 But I've learnt so much on this journey, 765 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,840 I'm not sure I'll ever look at my home in the same way again. 766 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,440 And as I take to the sky for the last time, I can see how much 767 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,040 Liverpool has changed, how much rebuilding 768 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,920 and regeneration has gone on over the years. 769 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,960 But something that hasn't altered at all is the spirit 770 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,480 and the character of those below. 771 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,760 I've always been proud of the people of Liverpool. 772 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,880 In fact, I have the honour of being a Freeman of the City 773 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,000 and being up here now, I owe them so much. 774 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,760 They've gave me this honour, but it should be the other way round. 775 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,440 It's awful to know what went on and it must have destroyed 776 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,120 families for generations, torn about their lost ones 777 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,240 and those who have never seen their parents again 778 00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:38,760 or their fathers again or their sons again. 779 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,000 But there's thousands and thousands of unsung heroes - 780 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,160 the ARP wardens, the nurses, the fellows patrolling the streets. 781 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,480 The way they banded together, the way they kept the morale up, 782 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,680 the way they made sure the children went to school... 783 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,680 Everyone, thousands and thousands of unsung heroes out there 784 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,240 and sometimes we forget...sometimes we tend to forget about them. 785 00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:07,000 But being up here now just gives me a little... It makes me feel.... 786 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:09,640 ..quite emotional. 787 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,720 It was all so bloody futile, wasn't it? 788 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,400 They were doing what they were told to do, 789 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,800 and the fear and the horror and the sad stories, 790 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,240 there must be as many in Germany as there are here, 791 00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:46,800 in Dresden and other places like that. 792 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,840 So while this has been a wonderful experience for me, 793 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,360 I don't want to do it again. 794 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,360 I don't want to do it again. 795 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,640 That experience I've just had has made me feel so humble. 796 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,880 They talk about the bulldog breed... 797 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,240 There's never been a truer expression made, 798 00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:14,000 they must have all had that bulldog spirit. 799 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,320 They got Liverpool through and they got Great Britain through, 800 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,840 and thank God for that. 801 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,560 I can't praise them enough. 802 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,040 MUSIC: Yours by Vera Lynn