1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:09,640 By the 1980s, modern architecture was under attack. 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,760 "It had failed so badly," some said, 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:18,400 "we'd be better off going back to older styles of building." 4 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,200 But a bold young generation of British architects argued 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,000 the exact opposite. 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,280 Instead of retreating into the past, 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,880 they were building gleaming visions of the future. 8 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,960 During the 1970s, the work 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,040 of Richard Rogers, 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,280 Norman Foster, 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:40,920 Nicholas Grimshaw, 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,440 Terry Farrell 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,560 and Michael Hopkins had begun to be seen as a movement - 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:47,680 "high-tech." 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,680 In their 20s and 30s, they'd collaborated 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:56,240 and shared a dream of how architecture could change the world. 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,440 In middle age, they'd become rivals, 18 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,760 and their work would become increasingly controversial. 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,920 Yet a decade which threatened to break them would, instead, 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:08,960 make them. 21 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:11,920 These were the years when they created some of the towering 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,440 achievements of 20th-century design. 23 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,840 They became the most successful generation of architects 24 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,920 Britain has ever produced. 25 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,120 This, in their own words, is the story of how. 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:26,880 # Burning down the house 27 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,280 # Burning down the house! # 28 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,680 Like millions of others in late '70s Britain, Richard Rogers was 29 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,320 struggling to find work, even though he'd already created 30 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:48,720 a building that was famous all over the world. 31 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,720 I, you know, I used to say nobody wanted another Pompidou. 32 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,240 I think everybody thought we only built Pompidous. 33 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,760 And actually I think people were somewhat afraid, 34 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,080 certainly clients would have been very bold to 35 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,640 make a commission to us after that building, 36 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,840 which was very, very radical at the time. 37 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,840 There was a vacuum, 38 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,680 and I came to a moment in time when I thought I shan't be building 39 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,440 any more buildings. I'm not an architect, I'll be a teacher. 40 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,080 It was very tough, and just at the moment of 41 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,800 the real low of lows, you're thinking, 42 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,200 "Well, maybe it's time to do other things." 43 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,680 We'd made the decision to go into a competition 44 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,680 for the Lloyd's of London building. 45 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,000 The chances of winning seemed slim. 46 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,720 Rogers was a left-winger who thought suits were square. 47 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:40,160 The City of London was still a bastion of bowler-hatted tradition, 48 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,440 not the sort of chaps you'd expect to be fans of his work in Paris. 49 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:51,840 I think Beaubourg made us take a deep breath. 50 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:57,400 For many of us, it is so radical in design, er, 51 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,880 we might have been frightened - in fact we weren't. 52 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,200 They said one of the reasons that we chose you were 53 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,760 because you were very much like us. 54 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,760 And we thought, "Well, that's very strange," 55 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,160 cos these are traditional City gents 56 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,160 who are the venerated institution. Not a bit of it. 57 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,240 Lloyd's, what do they do for a living? They take risk. 58 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,720 Lloyd's had confidence in spades, 59 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,880 and, you know, Lloyd's were very proud of who they were. 60 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,520 They said to us, "We want a building that will reflect our stature 61 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,360 "within the world." 62 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,960 Rogers certainly delivered a building which made Lloyd's 63 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,160 stand out from the crowd. 64 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,800 Design had begun, however, with another part of their brief - 65 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,800 to maintain their traditional style of doing business. 66 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,760 The marketplace was prime. 67 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:10,280 They wanted the whole market to feel as if it was trading in one room. 68 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,200 Which it always had done, philosophically, 69 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,200 from its earliest days. 70 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,880 MUSIC: "Paninaro" by Pet Shop Boys 71 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,440 So the heart of the Lloyd's Building is a single, very tall room, 72 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,000 which splits trading over several open floors. 73 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:34,520 They said, "One of the things we don't want is people in white coats 74 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,080 "fixing services in our trading floors." 75 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,920 As they were making a very large number of millions per day, 76 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,840 in premiums, they didn't want that process disturbed. 77 00:04:44,840 --> 00:04:48,160 "Can you find another place to put the services, please?" 78 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,720 So everything that's a support service is outside. 79 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,960 Developing the inside-out approach 80 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,440 first seen at the Pompidou Centre, toilets, staircases, 81 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,400 pipes and ducts are arranged round the perimeter of the building. 82 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,000 That's where the lifts were put as well. 83 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,640 And not just so they'd be easier for maintenance staff to reach. 84 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,920 Aesthetically, movement can be a very pleasurable thing. 85 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:27,280 I've never understood why one should get into a lift and rub shoulders 86 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:30,640 with lots of people you don't know in a dark box like a tomb. 87 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,440 If you put it on the outside of the building, you suddenly get 88 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,040 the view, and movement becomes part of the enjoyment of life, 89 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,200 not just part of the function of life. 90 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,880 Despite the fact they appear to be restrained City gentlemen, 91 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,400 they loved them, too, they're human beings. 92 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,560 Once you get used to the notion of the vertiginous ride, it's fun. 93 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,240 Architects don't like the term "high-tech", 94 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,520 but with creations like Lloyd's, you can see why the label stuck. 95 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,600 It unapologetically uses materials such as stainless steel, 96 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,320 which had once been the preserve of industry - not architecture. 97 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:20,800 This is a machine for working in, with no superfluous decoration. 98 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,600 Instead, visual stimulation comes from structural engineering. 99 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,520 One of the things about working with architects like Richard 100 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,520 is that it not only has to work, 101 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,640 but when it was finished, it had to look that you could see how 102 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,120 it had been put together 103 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,960 so you could see nodes, connections. 104 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,280 Knuckles and joints. 105 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,880 Which is actually a lot of the logic in these kind of buildings - 106 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,360 you see an object which explains how the thing was built. 107 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,200 Though the high-tech generation had been building since the 1960s, 108 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,280 Lloyd's was by far the biggest project any of them 109 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:04,400 had yet got off the ground in Britain. 110 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,520 The basic concept of the design had been decided within two years 111 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,080 of winning the contest. 112 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,440 Over the further six years it took to construct, however, Rogers 113 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,960 and his team were still puzzling out exactly how it would all work. 114 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,800 It's the nearest thing I could imagine to being 115 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,400 working on a medieval cathedral 116 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:35,200 where there is this broad idea of principles 117 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,200 but then the nature of the fabric of it was... 118 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,960 was...was still being designed as it was being constructed. 119 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,200 When the building was...is about to be completed, 120 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,040 the Chairman of Lloyd's said to me, um, 121 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,560 "Why didn't you tell us that it was going to look like that?" 122 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,560 And I remember I said, "But I didn't know." 123 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,760 Because in a sense, until you complete it, 124 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,440 you don't really know where this leads to. 125 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,920 If Rogers' creation resembled a cathedral, 126 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,520 then the god it would worship was money. 127 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,480 The City of London was increasingly turbo-charged 128 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,360 by the time the building opened in 1986, so the flashier 129 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,960 occupants of the Square Mile might have been expected to love it. 130 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,560 It turned out to be a future people weren't quite ready for. 131 00:08:34,560 --> 00:08:38,680 It's a deeply shocking building, and I have to admit I don't like it yet. 132 00:08:38,680 --> 00:08:41,320 I've stood in front of it for a very long time trying to like it. 133 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,760 I hope that the people who live in it like it. 134 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,920 I don't like the fact that we can't operate in there the way 135 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,600 we have throughout the history of Lloyd's. 136 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,120 It is an abortion. It's an excrescence, quite frankly. 137 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:59,720 When I came to the opening of Lloyd's I sat next to, er, 138 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,120 the Dean of St Paul's, and he said, "What if... Do you feel beleaguered?" 139 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,560 And I said, "Yes, I feel pretty beleaguered." 140 00:09:05,560 --> 00:09:08,480 All the headlines were, you know, "A terrible architect." 141 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,360 The public were not used to this type of building. 142 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,240 Er, so it was the shock of the new. 143 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,240 So on the whole the press saw it as 144 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,120 a destruction of a great historic tradition of the City of London. 145 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,360 The attacks were wounding, because Rogers had tried to make 146 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,720 a building that would get along with its older neighbours. 147 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,840 The area around Lloyd's is primarily medieval. 148 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,600 Therefore when you come along the narrow roads as you approach 149 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,800 the building, you never actually see the building as a whole, 150 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,880 you just see pieces, and the building is designed 151 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,080 to be seen in those pieces. 152 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,240 In a sense, we've sculpted the roofscape 153 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,400 so as to make a building which is anchored 154 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,240 in the City of London by a series of towers 155 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,400 and which will be recognised from considerable distances away. 156 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,360 For Rogers, mixing the old with the new was what architecture 157 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,040 had always done. 158 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,480 But an increasingly conservative, and conservationist, 159 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,680 culture disagreed, as he learned to his cost 160 00:10:10,680 --> 00:10:13,560 while Lloyd's was still being built. 161 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:21,440 In 1983, the National Gallery held a contest to design a new extension. 162 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,520 Rogers entered something high-tech. 163 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,400 Not only did he lose the competition, 164 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:28,760 it made him a target 165 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,720 for modern architecture's most prominent critic. 166 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,400 Instead of designing an extension to the elegant 167 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,240 facade of the National Gallery, which complements it 168 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,080 and continues the concept of columns and domes, 169 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,240 it looks as if we may be presented 170 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,520 with a kind of vast municipal fire station. 171 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,880 I would understand better this type of high-tech approach 172 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:59,200 if you demolished the whole of Trafalgar Square and started again. 173 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,400 But what is proposed seems to me 174 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,480 like a monstrous carbuncle 175 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,000 on the face of a much loved and elegant friend. 176 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,560 I thought the speech that Prince Charles made was 177 00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:13,520 unbelievably rude. I thought it was appalling. 178 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,440 And I think everybody was pretty shocked. 179 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,960 It wasn't as it happens our building, but it could have been. 180 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,040 I was perfectly proud to accept being a carbuncle 181 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,240 in the terms that he had put. 182 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,560 Outside the architectural profession, however, there was 183 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:29,160 support for some of the Prince's criticisms. 184 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,400 There were terrible problems 185 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,440 with architecture from the 1950s, '60s, '70s, 186 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,200 which emerged very strongly 187 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,280 in the early 1980s. 188 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,080 So as Prince Charles spoke, 189 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,880 many people in Britain were living in concrete apartment blocks 190 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,040 that were leaking, full of damp and condensation, 191 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,400 lifts not working, so all the famous things that people know. 192 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:52,240 But the Prince wasn't just complaining about the quality 193 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,400 of post-war construction, 194 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,560 he was attacking the whole approach to architecture which Rogers 195 00:11:57,560 --> 00:12:00,720 and his generation believed in - modernism. 196 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,280 I find it hard, I must say, 197 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,720 to appreciate architecture which shouts at you, 198 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,920 strictly utilitarian designs - 199 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,440 flat roofs, uncompromising angles, 200 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,520 an absence of any decoration at all. 201 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,840 The love affair with revolutionary artificial 202 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:26,040 building materials which so often prove unsatisfactory in the end. 203 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:30,280 Though the high-tech group built more user-friendly buildings 204 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,520 than the concrete boxes of preceding generations, 205 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,880 they still called themselves modernists. 206 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,520 50 years earlier, 207 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,320 the likes of Le Corbusier had tried to wipe clean the slate 208 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,240 of history. Ever since, architects had believed that only modern forms 209 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,920 could meet the needs of the modern age. 210 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,520 But they could no longer ignore the concerns the Prince had voiced 211 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:52,720 so powerfully. 212 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,920 The architecture of the future had to find a way 213 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,280 to get along better with the past. 214 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,000 One architect from their generation had been worrying about this 215 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,080 since the '70s. 216 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:10,840 I think Charles was 99% right. 217 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,120 It was true - most people did like traditional buildings 218 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,520 and traditional architecture. 219 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,040 That's the kind of houses they bought. 220 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,880 It's something that architects had to register, 221 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,800 they had to deal with that. 222 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:27,560 Terry Farrell had once been seen as part of the high-tech movement. 223 00:13:27,560 --> 00:13:29,960 In the '70s, he co-designed 224 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,120 and lived in this startling tower block. 225 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,280 Effectively, Terry Farrell was 226 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,880 the apostate - he's the one who gave up the 227 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,720 holy grail of pure modernism. 228 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,520 But Farrell didn't want to return to the traditional 229 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,680 styles of building the Prince of Wales was championing. 230 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:51,800 Instead, he wanted to cherry-pick the best of past and present. 231 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:03,560 Postmodernism was a response to dreary, dull, 232 00:14:03,560 --> 00:14:05,560 mechanical modern architecture. 233 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,320 It's a hybrid movement of many styles, 234 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,720 many languages of architecture. 235 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,400 You use ornaments, symbolism, colour. 236 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:22,120 Architects were freeing themselves up to plunder history books 237 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,520 and to use history as a kind of play box. 238 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,760 Architecture had been very stuffy and rigid 239 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,680 and form follows function, 240 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,920 honest expression of materials... 241 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,480 I just put all that completely to 242 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:41,360 one side and, erm, I suddenly found released, artistically released. 243 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,320 Across the world, postmodernism 244 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,120 seemed to promise a new dawn 245 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,480 for architecture - and it was Farrell who created the first 246 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,600 significant example in Britain. 247 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,280 When breakfast television was launched in 1983, 248 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:07,080 the commercial service was broadcast from studios designed by Terry. 249 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,880 Hello, good morning, and welcome! 250 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,320 I deliberately made the front look as though it had 251 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,440 origins in the streamline modern of Hollywood. It had sunbursts 252 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,400 and had extruded lettering that went all along right through it, 253 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,480 which various exhibition and other buildings in the '30s had done. 254 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,320 On the canal side it's, I think... By keeping the old wall 255 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,040 and adding a bit of colour, and the kind of colour that you'd find 256 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,680 on canal boats, erm, it's really kept a continuity with the canal. 257 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,720 And then inside, an interior that was pure theatre. 258 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,440 There was something quite special about it. 259 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,040 It was for a television company, it was meant to be dramatic, 260 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,520 it was meant to be playful. 261 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,160 It couldn't have looked more '80s. 262 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,200 Yet its most famous features had been inspired 263 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,680 by architecture from centuries before. 264 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,120 I remember Terry was away on holiday for a long weekend 265 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,600 or something in Venice. 266 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,800 And I was looking around Venice at all these points 267 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,760 and gable ends, and I realised that they always put something on it, 268 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,800 whether it was a cup and ball or a figure or what have you. 269 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,840 And he called me up and said, "I've got it, I've got it, 270 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,080 "I know ex... We must..." 271 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,960 He said, "The buildings here are covered in the most wonderful 272 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,800 "decoration and finials. They would look great on the top of TV-am. 273 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,400 "And we'll do eggcups!" 274 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,240 And he said, "How many pinnacles are there on the rear elevation?" 275 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,160 And he came back and he said, "There are 11." 276 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,440 I said, "We have to build a 12, we have to have a dozen." 277 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:56,240 And sure enough, we managed to get another one in to have a dozen eggs. 278 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,440 The notorious eggcups - I remember being startled, 279 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,040 and I remember thinking, 280 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,360 "Well, this is an acid test of what I've been saying. 281 00:17:04,360 --> 00:17:07,400 I said, "We're not going to design by committee. If that's what Terry 282 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:12,720 "wants to do, then in my opinion that is what we should let him do." 283 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,800 It was, you know, OK, bonkers, 284 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:20,000 but it was enjoyably bonkers at a time where I think the nation 285 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,920 needed a little gaiety both in television and in architecture. 286 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,000 Though TV-am cost just a fraction of its contemporary 287 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,040 the Lloyd's building, it established Farrell 288 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,800 as a major figure in British architecture, 289 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,960 and it proved he could succeed without the man who'd been 290 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:42,080 his professional partner in the '60s and '70s, Nicholas Grimshaw. 291 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,560 TRIO: # Da, da, da 292 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,760 # Da, da, da... # 293 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,000 In the early '80s, Grimshaw was still building 294 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,520 the kind of uncompromising industrial architecture 295 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,920 which had been the speciality of his partnership with Farrell. 296 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,440 At the time when TV-am was built, 297 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,240 Grimshaw was probably the least fashionable architect 298 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,280 in the entire country because, you know, 299 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,400 he was putting up sort of slick sheds. 300 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,640 Was it Peter Jay who wrote this thing in the Sunday Times 301 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:19,040 about calling Terry Farrell a genius because of the eggcups? 302 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,760 HE LAUGHS And that got Nick very cross indeed. 303 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:30,840 I never quite worked out why Terry Farrell 304 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:36,280 adopted postmodernism with such open arms as he did. 305 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:41,160 Nick is a very stubborn person, and he's got very firm beliefs. 306 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,160 And, you know, none of that stuff was allowed in the office. 307 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,640 High-tech was now under attack on two fronts, 308 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,720 from postmodernism as well as from the anti-modernism 309 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,280 which the Prince of Wales was seen as championing. 310 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:59,040 In the early '80s, Foster and Rogers 311 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,760 were traumatised by the style question, 312 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,760 and they started attacking postmodernism by name. 313 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:10,400 And as a result, the battle of the styles took place, 314 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,800 which was really negative in many respects. 315 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,400 The flavour of the year at that time 316 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,680 was pastiche, of a rather grotesque nature. 317 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:26,440 I mean, it was the cartoon imagery of classical architecture. 318 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,360 Norman Foster had built an impressive reputation 319 00:19:30,360 --> 00:19:34,320 with his sleek and minimal approach to modern architecture. 320 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,120 But at the end of the '70s, the change in architectural fashions 321 00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:42,080 and economic climate threatened to end his career. 322 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:46,680 And I remember that period very well. No new projects were coming in. 323 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,920 So we were - although we never said so at the time - 324 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,960 we were pretty desperate. 325 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,200 Foster had entered the Lloyd's competition, 326 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,280 but when beaten to that job by his former partner, 327 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,320 Norman instead looked abroad for work. 328 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,840 MUSIC: "Canton" by Japan 329 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,840 He entered a contest to build the new headquarters 330 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,520 for the Hong Kong and Shanghai Banking Corporation. 331 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,400 We invested heavily in doing that competition. 332 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,200 If we hadn't won it, I don't know... 333 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,040 Maybe we'd have survived, maybe not. 334 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,040 Foster and his team threw everything they had 335 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,120 into trying to meet HSBC's ambitious brief. 336 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,680 The bank wanted the best building in the world. 337 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,440 Yeah, what does that mean? 338 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:55,640 I went with Norman to Hong Kong for the briefing that the bank gave. 339 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,800 And unlike any of the other practices 340 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,680 we stayed on for a few days after, 341 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,880 trying to understand better the way in which the bank operated, 342 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,320 to get behind the scenes, as it were. 343 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,680 The bank's first reaction was, 344 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,720 "Well, of course we'd have to tell the other competitors, wouldn't we?" 345 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,280 So I said, "Why would you have to tell the other competitors? 346 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,280 "If we're interested in your bank, 347 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,080 "why would you share it with our competitors?" 348 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,200 "Yes, you've got a point. What can we tell you?" 349 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:31,120 And they said, "You'll hear something called feng shui, 350 00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:32,920 "and don't worry about feng shui." 351 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:38,800 So I was immediately curious and I consulted a feng shui man. 352 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,880 He did a drawing, 353 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,800 had a conversation, we paid him a fee. 354 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,440 And actually the final design, as built, 355 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:54,120 has some considerable similarities to that sketch that was produced! 356 00:21:54,120 --> 00:21:56,040 MUSIC: "Living On The Ceiling" by Blancmange 357 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,880 I think the Hongkong and Shanghai Bank 358 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,400 is one of the great buildings of the 20th century. 359 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,080 If you had to pick a top ten, it would be up there. 360 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,200 # And I'm so tall, I'm so tall... # 361 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:27,000 And yet in 1979, when Foster won the competition, 362 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,920 he'd never built anything taller than four storeys. 363 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,520 I can remember the day it was announced, and I remember 364 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,440 there were a few glasses of champagne 365 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,080 that we were drinking in the office, 366 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,560 and after a minute or two we started to look round at each other 367 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,880 and realised, "How the hell are we going to do this?" 368 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,560 "We've won it, but now we're going to have to build it!" 369 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,880 The design was far from settled at that stage. 370 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,000 All Foster knew for certain 371 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,040 is that he didn't like most of the towers 372 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,160 which had been built previously. 373 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,080 So many high-rise buildings, in retrospect, 374 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,040 are like so many kind of dumb boxes. 375 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,920 They're anonymous, they're hostile, 376 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,400 the only difference from one floor to the other 377 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,120 is the number on the lift car or the door in the corridor. 378 00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:19,400 There's no progression of space, they're intimidating, 379 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,720 they're soulless. 380 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,120 Foster and his team decided they could do better. 381 00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:30,600 They set out to reinvent the skyscraper. 382 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:38,200 I think coming to a building type that you've not done before 383 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,040 makes you think very hard. 384 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,880 You have no preconceptions, 385 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,280 you start with a clean sheet of paper. 386 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,640 He just brainstormed it to the nth degree. 387 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,560 In just over a year, something like 5,000 drawings, 500 models. 388 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,560 Models of the structure, 389 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,560 drawings at a close-up scale. 390 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,000 The way that something will bolt together, junction together. 391 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,640 The things that hold the building, drive the building. 392 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,680 I count myself very fortunate 393 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,440 that I worked first for Roger and then for Foster's. 394 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,680 Cos they share a very rigorous approach 395 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,400 where you carefully define all the issues, the problems 396 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,680 you're going to solve before you try to solve them. 397 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,640 Not only two-dimensionally, but also as a model. 398 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,800 Three-dimensional study model here, to explore what it looks like, 399 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,800 how it might assemble. 400 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,000 We tested options, you know, we looked at other ways to do it. 401 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,160 So here we're showing the possibility of a deck 402 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,160 that connects then right out to the water, 403 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,160 in the same spirit of Venice, if you like. 404 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,280 Nothing was designed or built that hadn't gone through 405 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,320 a very rigorous process, 406 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,520 that there were very, very strong reasons that it should be thus. 407 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:52,280 The bank encouraged us to look at the big wide world 408 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,640 and actually see what was available. 409 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,760 "Don't just come to us with European ideas. 410 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,920 "What's available in America? What's in Japan? 411 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,120 "What's in other parts of the planet?" 412 00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:04,720 The idea of getting all these building components from all over 413 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,320 the world, and of making them conform to one architectural vision. 414 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:14,560 The scale of its ambition is one reason why it's a great building. 415 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,240 What this exhaustive design process produced 416 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,800 was a structure like no other. 417 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,360 It's questioning the nature of a tall building. 418 00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:29,040 Every tall building up to that point had a central core, 419 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,400 it was like a kebab. 420 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,280 If you took the core from the heart of the building, 421 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,440 which had never been done before, 422 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,120 and you moved it to the edges so you could see through the space, 423 00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:42,800 everybody would have a better working environment. 424 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,760 It's wonderful - the idea of suspending 425 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,720 the whole building from those two rows of masts. 426 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,920 Like a multi-storey suspension bridge. 427 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,560 The vast open-plan interior could be arranged more flexibly 428 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,600 and adapted more easily - 429 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,880 obsessions of Foster and his peers since the '60s. 430 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:19,280 The suspended structure also gave something back to the city. 431 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,040 What's amazing about the HSBC project is that in Hong Kong 432 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,480 real estate is extremely expensive, and here is the ground floor, 433 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,240 which is usually seen as the grand welcome entrance for most projects. 434 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,640 You know, you come up to this extraordinary bank 435 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,720 and actually all you have are two escalators 436 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,280 coming down to the ground and an extraordinary open plaza. 437 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,520 Then you look up into the belly of this glass building 438 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,280 and realise, "Oh, THAT'S the building, the building's up there." 439 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,520 For a building like that to make such a gesture was profound. 440 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:54,320 HSBC paid an unprecedented price for their building - 441 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,000 over a billion pounds in today's money. 442 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,680 Shipping components from 80 different countries 443 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:05,560 and pioneering new industrial processes didn't come cheap. 444 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,600 At that time it was thought to be 445 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,640 the most expensive building in the world. 446 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,920 I talked to the clients, so I knew the people in Hong Kong quite well 447 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,040 and they would defend it as the most expensive building in the world 448 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,800 because they said, "It's a work of art, and any work of art, 449 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,280 " you have to spend as much money as it takes." 450 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,000 Earlier in his career, Foster had specialised in low-cost, 451 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,040 right-on buildings. 452 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:38,440 Now he'd created the ultimate luxury object for a bank. 453 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,240 A man who'd always sought flexibility in his architecture 454 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,600 was adapting perfectly to the spirit of the '80s. 455 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,680 It was a building which made his international reputation. 456 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,000 After that he could do anything in the world. 457 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,800 It summarised, at the highest level, high-tech. 458 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,680 Only one contemporary project could seriously be considered its equal - 459 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,400 Lloyd's. 460 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,600 The two towers had more than just height in common - 461 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,200 they had similar aims, similar budgets and the same roots. 462 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,920 Foster and Rogers had, after all, 463 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,960 been friends since the '60s as well as rivals. 464 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,400 I think there's no question there was a great competitive element 465 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,880 between Norman Foster and Richard Rogers - 466 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,160 I mean, they spurred each other on though. 467 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,040 To say that there was competition between the two 468 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,440 would be to put it, you know, mildly. 469 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,800 These things sort of came to a head when the traditional cricket match 470 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,880 came up, 471 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,320 and the gloves came off between the people in the two practices. 472 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:57,120 As the '80s drew on, however, Foster had another serious rival. 473 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,760 One who, like Rogers, had once been his collaborator. 474 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,160 This was the building which proved Michael Hopkins 475 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,280 could be just as inventive as Foster and Rogers, 476 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,520 and secured his place in the front rank of British architects. 477 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,320 It's the research and development base for an oil technology company. 478 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,040 It's on quite a prominent site on the edge of Cambridge, 479 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,600 and you couldn't just stick an ordinary old factory roof on it 480 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,800 if you wanted to. 481 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,120 It needed something more particular. 482 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,640 Like Foster's Hongkong Bank, this structure is suspended from above 483 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,040 rather than supported from below. 484 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,720 Every roof needs to be held up somehow. 485 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,800 You can do it with a forest of columns which fill a whole interior, 486 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,280 or you can stick a maypole in the middle of your roof 487 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,320 and hang it off that pole. 488 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,960 It's a landmark, it's an eye-catcher. 489 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,840 It says, "We're doing something special." 490 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,640 At Schlumberger, Hopkins combined this novel approach to structure 491 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,760 with an innovative new material. 492 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,720 This fabric is collectively known as PTFE glass, 493 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,760 polytetrafluoroethylene, 494 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,400 which is woven glass fibres covered in Teflon. 495 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,320 But it had the huge benefit of being non-stick, 496 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,360 so it's sort of self-cleaning, sparkling in the sunshine, 497 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,000 and the glass fibres are very, very strong. 498 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,000 At the research laboratory, 499 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,320 the fabric covers a central area for mechanical work 500 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,000 as well as staff social areas. 501 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,920 It forms tents, which join together the office 502 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,600 and lab areas running along each side of the plan. 503 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:06,000 It's not like a boy scout tent or even a circus tent. 504 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,800 They flap about and they don't stand up. 505 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,720 This one has to stand up against all the wind loadings, 506 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,840 snow loadings that any other roof has to deal with, 507 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,080 and it has to be there permanently. 508 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,000 To make a strong enough structure out of fabric, 509 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,200 the engineers sought digital help. 510 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:32,520 This was one of the first buildings designed, in part, by computers. 511 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,520 In architectural engineering 512 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,040 I don't think anything had relied so much upon the computer. 513 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,680 Software had to specially developed and written 514 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,480 that would compute the shape, or form-find it, as we call it. 515 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,720 Computer drawing was almost unheard of at that time, 516 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,760 and that was pretty special because you didn't start with sketches 517 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,840 and drawings, you started with numbers. 518 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,640 Some people find it very difficult to believe 519 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,000 that a mathematical process could generate a sculpture, 520 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,360 and so we then made a physical model using hand-sewn pieces of canvas 521 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,840 attached to the wires and tension rods with screws and threads, 522 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,200 just to make sure we'd got it right. 523 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,440 This is high-tech as sci-fi. 524 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,000 While postmodernism was playing about with the past, 525 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,560 the remaining high-tech true believers 526 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,120 seemed ever more determined in their pursuit of the future. 527 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,400 So even when building something 528 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,680 as ordinary as an inner-city supermarket, 529 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,000 Nicholas Grimshaw refused to compromise 530 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,160 on his industrial approach. 531 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,880 We didn't waver one inch from our belief 532 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,480 in our new palette of materials, and in modernism generally. 533 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,040 The structure's really - even though I say it myself - 534 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,440 a bit of a tour de force. 535 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,920 You can see these great bunches of ties coming down, 536 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,480 and it sort of gives the building, I think, enormous kind of strength 537 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:19,280 and impact in the street, instead of being a rather sort of bland box. 538 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,800 Grimshaw gave a nod to his building's older neighbours 539 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,320 in the arrangement of these rods, 540 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,880 which hold down the cantilevered roof. 541 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,440 We put them at the same sort of rhythm as the party walls 542 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,600 of the Georgian houses opposite. 543 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,640 And in an odd kind of way, it does echo the scale of the buildings 544 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,960 on the other side of the street. 545 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,560 I actually think it fits in rather well. 546 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,800 No other supermarket built in the '80s looked anything like this. 547 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,320 But it owed its existence not to shoppers' demands, 548 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,800 nor even Sainsbury's desires, 549 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,360 but to a powerful architects' department at the local council. 550 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,880 We had a sympathetic planning authority, 551 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,000 so we managed to do something quite radical. 552 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,000 Grimshaw's weren't Sainsbury's first choice of architects for the job, 553 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,680 but the die-hard modernists at Camden Council 554 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,760 had rejected all the previous designs 555 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,920 which the supermarket had proposed for the site. 556 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,040 They started off with their standard Surrey farmhouse style, 557 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,880 which is a brick building with a pitched roof. 558 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,520 And then they tried bypass-Tudor, 559 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,280 which there's a pub on the corner, still there, 560 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,040 with, you know, wood nailed onto the outside. 561 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,240 The planners were getting pretty fed up by then, and they said, 562 00:34:41,240 --> 00:34:43,280 "Look, you've tried all these styles on us, 563 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,480 "all we want is a decent building." 564 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,120 And so, somewhat in desperation, I think, Sainsbury's turned to us. 565 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,280 And by that time they were so sort of beaten up, Sainsbury's, 566 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,800 they let us do what we wanted to do. 567 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,920 By odd coincidence, Grimshaw's supermarket 568 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,320 was built round the corner from Farrell's TV-am building. 569 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,360 Within a few metres of each other, the former partners now presented 570 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,360 wildly divergent visions of architecture. 571 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,680 Whereas the back of Farrell's building had responded 572 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,400 to its setting by echoing the colours of nearby canal boats, 573 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,040 what Grimshaw built behind his supermarket 574 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,800 made no concessions to context or tradition. 575 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,920 It was a terrace of high-tech homes, built when most house builders 576 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,520 had reverted to red brick and pitched roofs. 577 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,520 We felt, rightly or wrongly, that the whole site had to be a piece. 578 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,600 And we felt we had developed an expertise in working metal. 579 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,120 And, I have to admit, 580 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,080 we were at that time obsessed with that kind of imagery, 581 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,040 and we aspired to a kind of showroom gleam. 582 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,920 At a time when whole estates 583 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,320 were built in neo-Georgian toytown pastiche, 584 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,680 Grimshaw and his team were sticking to high-tech 585 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,960 with steely determination. 586 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,080 The world will catch up. 587 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,800 I think that was... Putting it bluntly, that was the attitude. 588 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,440 By the late '80s, the world WAS paying attention 589 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,160 to Britain's high-tech architects. 590 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,360 They were treated with increasing respect abroad. 591 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,920 It was on home turf where scepticism remained strongest. 592 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,400 You have, ladies and gentleman, to give this much to the Luftwaffe. 593 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,280 When it knocked down our buildings, 594 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,040 it didn't replace them with anything more offensive than rubble - 595 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,960 WE did that. 596 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,440 This royal broadside was provoked by plans for a major development 597 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,600 next to St Paul's Cathedral, 598 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,240 replacing a 1960s scheme which even fans of modernism 599 00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:51,840 had to admit wasn't very good. 600 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,360 In 1987, an architectural contest was held 601 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,400 to come up with a replacement. 602 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,880 Both Rogers and Foster entered. 603 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,000 But once again, Prince Charles was unimpressed 604 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,200 with all the modern schemes proposed. 605 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,280 None of them, I believe, address the primary problems 606 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,560 of appropriateness and architectural good manners. 607 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:20,000 I would like to see the kinds of materials Wren might have used, 608 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,400 and the ornament and detail of classical architecture. 609 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,880 Rogers was selected as part of the team 610 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,000 who would build the new Paternoster Square. 611 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,240 After the Prince's intervention, however, his scheme was scrapped, 612 00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:36,640 and the architect was to be further disappointed 613 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,680 when his royal opponent was invited 614 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,000 to debate their differences in public. 615 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,360 Back came this message from Buckingham Palace, 616 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,520 "The Prince does not debate." That's what got my...got me. 617 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,040 Within a democracy, it's not on. 618 00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:54,160 Instead, the two set out their rival visions of architecture 619 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,680 in separate films for the BBC. 620 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,840 I am not interested in copying styles. 621 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,880 That is actually belittling history. 622 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,360 I'm interested in learning FROM history. 623 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:05,880 There is no need for buildings, 624 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,800 just because they house computers and word processors, 625 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,160 to look like machines themselves. 626 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,960 There seemed no end in sight for high-tech's battle with heritage. 627 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,320 MUSIC: "Moments In Love" by The Art Of Noise 628 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,000 But then, one of Rogers' peers called a ceasefire. 629 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:37,480 At Lord's Cricket Ground, Michael Hopkins surprised everyone 630 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,000 with a new-found willingness to engage with architectural history. 631 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,520 When I first started work with Michael Hopkins 632 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,720 their architecture was what people would call "high-tech". 633 00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:49,800 But then Lord's was the turning point. 634 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,840 And that's when it began to get quite different. 635 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,480 The first time going to Lord's I was absolutely 636 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,400 sort of knocked out by the place - particularly the Pavilion 637 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:04,480 which has this marvellous Edwardian light, lacy, 638 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,360 very English summer quality about it. 639 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,640 Hopkins' brief was to replace a crumbling 640 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,520 19th-century part of the ground. 641 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,680 The standard modernist response 642 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,480 would have been to knock it down and start again. 643 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,760 The Mound Stand, as it was before, 644 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,160 was very popular to the cricketing fans. 645 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:30,000 The roof was shot, but the brickwork underneath was very nice. 646 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,240 And in one of these sort of design sessions where you're thinking 647 00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:38,040 of all sorts of things, I suggested, "Why don't we keep the bottom bit?" 648 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,080 It was one of those sort of suggestions you make 649 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,160 slightly sort of toe-in-water, you know. 650 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,520 "I'm only an engineer, but how about we keep this?" You know. 651 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,160 And that's really what we did. 652 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,320 Rather than inventing something new for it, 653 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,960 we kept the good bits of the Victorian outside wall 654 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,680 and just copied it and extended it on. 655 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,360 And then you rise up from that 656 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,560 in a really gutsy bit of modern engineering. 657 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,120 For a modernist architect to emulate the Victorians was a surprise, 658 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,680 because it smacked of postmodernism. 659 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:36,240 Brickwork was the antithesis of high-tech - a labour intensive, 660 00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:39,200 messy, piecemeal, site-based process. 661 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,360 But somehow, it captured Hopkins' imagination. 662 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,400 He fell in love with bricks. 663 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,480 Maybe you will get an interesting architecture out of brick, 664 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,240 and it would feel more contemporary if you made it hold 665 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:56,640 the bloody building up rather than just sticking it on as a facade. 666 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,280 Whenever you see a Hopkins brick pier, 667 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,600 it really does support the building. 668 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,640 It isn't a steel column hidden inside, 669 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,080 which is what most architects would do these days. 670 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,600 MUSIC: "Christian" by China Crisis 671 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,120 Hopkins used fabric for the roof, 672 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,640 as he'd done at the Schlumberger Research Centre 673 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,520 and as he'd go on to do in many future projects. 674 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,320 The result was something even Prince Charles could enjoy. 675 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,880 PRINCE CHARLES: It seems to me to capture the spirit of Lord's, 676 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,760 with a suggestion of marquee tents and Edwardian summer days. 677 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,680 Everyone welcomed it. The Establishment loved it 678 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,760 as well as the progressive architects. It was a great hit. 679 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,400 Other commissions from traditional institutions began to follow. 680 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,920 High-tech was slowly winning over the sceptics. 681 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,640 But it remained a relatively rare sight in late '80s Britain. 682 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,040 The property developers who transformed Britain's cities 683 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,800 during the third Thatcher term much preferred postmodernism. 684 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,360 These were the years when Terry Farrell made the leap 685 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,800 from critically-acclaimed but small-scale projects 686 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,840 to big-budget buildings. 687 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,440 He now had three gargantuan office blocks 688 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,320 under construction in different parts of London, 689 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,200 including one which achieved worldwide fame. 690 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,680 MUSIC: "Safe From Harm" by Massive Attack 691 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,120 It is James Bond's headquarters, MI6! 692 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,320 Like his other office blocks, 693 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,440 Vauxhall Cross was commissioned by a private developer. 694 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,920 Only when the design was well under way 695 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,680 did Farrell learn an arm of government wanted to move in. 696 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,200 I had no idea I was building MI6. 697 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,280 I was told it was a government headquarters, 698 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,520 and we guessed, wrongly, very early on 699 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,640 that it was for the Department of the Environment. 700 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,640 I put the trees on the top 701 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,200 particularly because it was the Department of the Environment. 702 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,640 The building was finished and handed over, 703 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,880 and I was watching television and on the screen, 704 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,280 "The British have announced that this is the headquarters of MI6." 705 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,680 The imposing appearance of the building was inspired 706 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,960 not by its eventual occupants, but by its position on the river. 707 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,120 The Thames brings out of Londoners 708 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,520 a different response of scale and stature. 709 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,760 If you look along the river banks, 710 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,720 you see the buildings much more clearly in silhouette. 711 00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:53,760 They have great stature. 712 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,960 So I argued you could build a palazzo of height and bulk 713 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,200 and drama and scale. 714 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,520 It is a really masterful essay 715 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,880 in this kind of layered contradiction 716 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,520 between steel and glass, masonry - the classical and high-tech - 717 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:22,600 and in many ways was a high point of British postmodernism. 718 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,400 And it was attacked, of course, by the modernists 719 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,720 for being a little bit Egyptian, being a bit Art Deco, 720 00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:37,080 for being like a set for Aida, the opera - which it is... 721 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:41,280 I know it's received an awful lot of criticism and so on. 722 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,720 I was told that in the latest James Bond film, 723 00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:46,800 when they blew up the building, 724 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,520 an architect had taken several friends to see the movie 725 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,280 and they all cheered when it was blown up, inside the cinema. 726 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,360 MUSIC: "Enjoy The Silence" by Depeche Mode 727 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,120 The more successful Terry became, the more he found himself 728 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,480 the number one target for the opponents of postmodernism. 729 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,840 I got a huge amount of antagonism thrown at me. 730 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:16,120 It was partly a case of guilt by association. 731 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,280 There were firms in Britain that took on the mantle 732 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,080 of postmodernism and did some dreadful buildings. 733 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,560 In the hands of the commercial world, 734 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,240 it becomes too much, you know, glitz and bling. 735 00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:32,400 People were thinking this can't develop. 736 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,520 How many more pink and grey shiny granite pedimented buildings 737 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,560 with bobbles on do we want, really? 738 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:42,280 By 1991, when Farrell's new building for Charing Cross station 739 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,280 was completed, the backlash was well under way. 740 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,880 Tastemakers looked instead to another station 741 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,800 just across the river, being built by Terry's former partner 742 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,840 who'd stayed steadfast to high-tech. 743 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,520 MUSIC: "Voyage, Voyage" by Desireless 744 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,760 Digging of the Channel Tunnel had begun in earnest in 1988, 745 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,840 so London needed a new terminus for the high speed 746 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,360 international trains which would go through it. 747 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,320 It was a very, very hard fought competition, 748 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:26,000 and we absolutely put everything we had into getting that job. 749 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,080 We knew that it was very exciting, 750 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:36,120 because the French side were not doing very much to Gare du Nord 751 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,040 so we felt that we could do something rather special. 752 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,280 Something heroic was needed. 753 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,440 The site for the new station wasn't heroic, however - 754 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,800 a tight and irregular bit of leftover land. 755 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,880 It was a bit like being given a foot 756 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,080 and being asked to design a sock to pull over it. 757 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,320 It was a very twisting, difficult geometry. 758 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,320 Normally, the way in a complex shape it would be dealt with 759 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,080 would be to have thousands of different shaped pieces of glass, 760 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,160 and then you would have to marry - 761 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,120 each piece would be a special bespoke piece. 762 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,240 This was the thing that really terrified the project managers - 763 00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:17,400 they saw this convoluted shape 764 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,360 and said, "That will cost you a hell of a lot more money." 765 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,600 We had to, in some way, make the thing 766 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,640 so that we had mass-produced components to bring... 767 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:26,720 to keep the price down. 768 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,560 To allow the roof to change shape with the site, 769 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,680 the team devised a "loose fit" glazing system. 770 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,760 It's all tiled with regular rectilinear sheets. 771 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,600 The panels overlap, which means that you can get this kind of adjustment. 772 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,200 So each layer goes one over the other, and then by creating 773 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,320 this special set of hands that can move in any direction, that dealt 774 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,840 with the difficulty of joining the glass back to the steel structure. 775 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,680 There was a period in the site offices where you kept seeing 776 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,680 people demonstrating how the bracket works and how it adjusted. 777 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,360 "No, no, no, it's like this!" 778 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,520 SIR NICHOLAS GRIMSHAW: We were involved absolutely 779 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,120 down to the last nut and bolt. 780 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,400 The steel components were specially cast for the project 781 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,520 in a foundry, having been designed by Nick and the team. 782 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,960 There were a number of tubular elements coming into one point - 783 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,240 if we'd rammed them all together and tried to sort of weld them up 784 00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:38,680 in a great kind of gnarled knot, it would have looked horrible. 785 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,760 So what we did was we did this casting like a kind of heart valve, 786 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:48,360 with short stubs coming out of it for each of the tubes to fit over... 787 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,680 ..so it was a beautiful, functional thing. 788 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,800 Waterloo International met with huge public, as well as critical, 789 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,240 enthusiasm when it opened in 1994. 790 00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:10,240 Sometimes everything goes right. 791 00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:12,520 This was going to be a special moment in history, 792 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,280 the first train through the Channel Tunnel, ribbon-cutting with 793 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:20,440 the Queen and Mitterrand, and we wouldn't have been allowed 794 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,960 to make such an ebullient building, er, for a lesser moment. 795 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,520 Here was a work of uncompromising modern architecture 796 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,640 which didn't upset the heritage brigade. 797 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,400 One reason might have been that elegantly engineered glass roofs 798 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,880 were themselves part of British history - 799 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,040 going back to the Crystal Palace of 1851, 800 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,560 and the first Victorian railway stations. 801 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,240 Those structures had always been a very direct inspiration 802 00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:54,000 for the high-tech generation. 803 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,200 My colleagues Foster and Hopkins would have said 804 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,080 exactly the same thing - it's more or less running 805 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:05,440 in a straight line from Paxton and Brunel up to the present day. 806 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,440 Paxton, with the Crystal Palace, still holds the record 807 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,280 for the maximum space covered in the minimum amount of time. 808 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,560 Waterloo proved postmodernists weren't the only ones 809 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,600 who could draw inspiration from architectural history. 810 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,200 I think there was a feeling, 811 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,240 "Let's get back to something a little more earthy and serious." 812 00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:34,160 You get sick of postmodernism very quickly. 813 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,000 You know, we were the glass of cold water that everyone 814 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,400 needed to drink after a rich meal, I think. 815 00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:44,680 Like the Grimshaw team, 816 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,360 Norman Foster never wavered from his modernist belief 817 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,800 that well-engineered structures don't need dressing up. 818 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:56,200 The project he unveiled in 1992 would prove to millions 819 00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:00,640 of visitors each year that high-tech was nothing to be scared of. 820 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,480 British Airports Authority at the time was 821 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,640 headed out by an engineer, Norman Payne. 822 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:14,440 And he said, quite simply, "I want a new generation airport." 823 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:19,640 The other challenge he gave us was he wanted the building to be 824 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:26,000 between 15 and 20% cheaper than any terminal that he'd built previously. 825 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,760 So not only did we have to reinvent the terminal, 826 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,280 it had to be considerably cheaper. 827 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,240 Foster and his team, as was now their custom, 828 00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:40,840 exhaustively analysed the whole concept of airport design. 829 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,560 They found plenty of room for improvement. 830 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,440 So often in earlier terminals, you didn't know where the hell you were, 831 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,840 which way you were facing and which way you were meant to go. 832 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,680 The act of travel raises the level of anxiety in a lot of people, 833 00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,760 so what you want to do is to make the experience 834 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,240 as easy, as enjoyable as possible. 835 00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:05,960 Um...and the way to do that is 836 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,160 to provide a terminal building 837 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:10,800 that gets rid of all the clutter. 838 00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:27,720 It's very open, very clear, easy to navigate. 839 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,480 With the views out, you can see the plane, you know where you're going. 840 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:39,920 Essentially, Stansted is... is one very large room. 841 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:44,320 And everything happens in that room as far as the passengers 842 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,800 are concerned, both arriving and departing. 843 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,440 All of the grubby, oily, engineering stuff - 844 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,840 you know, the baggage handling, 845 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,000 the air conditioning - would be in the basement and feed upwards, 846 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,400 so that people would then be separated from 847 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,480 the works of the building. 848 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,840 Traditionally, all of this mechanical plant 849 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,920 had been placed on the roof. 850 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:12,480 So this idea of turning the building literally upside down 851 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:17,160 also saved money, because we didn't have to have a great beefy structure 852 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,720 supporting all this heavy plant up in the air. 853 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:28,480 The roof then only had to keep the water out, and it can let natural 854 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:33,520 light in throughout the whole depth and footprint of the building. 855 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,600 The trees, as we call them, because they fan outwards, erm, 856 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,600 they hold up the roof, but they also order the space as well, 857 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,520 they give it a clarity, a sense of rhythm, 858 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,280 of order, of movement, of progression. 859 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,120 Compared to the engineering gymnastics 860 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,920 of the Hongkong Shanghai Bank, Stansted is calmer, 861 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,760 more minimal architecture, and easier, perhaps, 862 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,560 for the public to like. 863 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,520 That didn't mean it was easier to design. 864 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:10,360 In the end, I think that the simplicity is deceptive. 865 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,560 It's like writing a poem - it's easier to write an essay. 866 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,600 This is Foster's genius - that he can make something 867 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,400 intensely difficult seem obvious and effortless. 868 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,280 Having already reinvented the skyscraper, 869 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,360 Foster had successfully reinvented the airport. 870 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,640 That model has been adopted by every architect, 871 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:39,360 every airport planner - and that, of course, is the ultimate compliment. 872 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,720 It's been very flattering that it has been interpreted 873 00:54:42,720 --> 00:54:47,280 in all sorts of very interesting ways by architects across the world. 874 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,320 Foster and his peers had argued since the '60s that modern 875 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,680 architecture should reflect the advanced technology of modern life. 876 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,880 When they started building airports, 877 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,320 everyone could see their point. 878 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,720 Try to imagine a world 879 00:55:03,720 --> 00:55:09,120 in which the latest aircraft comes into a neo-Georgian airport. 880 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,280 I mean, it's not going to work, is it? 881 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:16,080 So it seems likely that an airport would commission an architect 882 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,520 like Norman Foster, rather than one of the Prince of Wales' team. 883 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,280 But by the mid-'90s, traditional styles of architecture 884 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:30,720 were losing out to high-tech even in historic locations. 885 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,280 Foster showed the light, minimal approach he'd used in Stansted 886 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,120 could work equally well in the midst 887 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,760 of the 19th-century Royal Academy in London. 888 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,760 Once, the prospect of an English country house like Glyndebourne 889 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,720 getting a high-tech extension 890 00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:53,120 would have caused outraged cries of "Carbuncle!" 891 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,640 Yet in 1994, even the most traditional of opera goers 892 00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,960 applauded the new theatre by Hopkins Architects. 893 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:05,040 High-tech had proved its versatility and diversity, 894 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,840 and firms which were fighting for their lives at the start 895 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,920 of the '80s were finally booming. 896 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,480 But with their form of modernism rehabilitated, 897 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,640 what need was there for postmodernism? 898 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,160 Farrell was then in the wilderness. 899 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,360 And so for ten years during the '90s, 900 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,400 I never got a single commission in London - where I lived! 901 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,160 MUSIC: "Belfast" by Orbital 902 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,520 Farrell instead set up shop, very successfully, 903 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,120 in Asia, where he spent much of the '90s 904 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,480 building projects like Hong Kong's Peak Tower. 905 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,880 Meanwhile, those who stuck with high-tech 906 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,880 were now in demand across the world. 907 00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:58,520 The architectural axis shifted to Britain, without question, 908 00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:59,880 without question, 909 00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:03,680 and Rogers and Foster were the most influential architects in the world, 910 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,160 I think, at that time. 911 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,560 Eight years after the Lloyd's building caused such a ruckus, 912 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,240 Rogers' London headquarters for Channel 4 913 00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:14,880 opened without a squeak of controversy. 914 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,960 Even the British public now seemed at ease with high-tech buildings, 915 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,760 and their architects were no longer public enemies. 916 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:28,080 In 1996, Richard Rogers became Lord Rogers of Riverside. 917 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:32,080 Soon after, he was joined by Lord Foster of Thames Bank. 918 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:36,960 Grimshaw, Hopkins and Farrell were all knighted too. 919 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,720 Men who had once been radical outsiders 920 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,640 were slowly edging into the Establishment. 921 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,480 MUSIC: "Porcelain" by Moby 922 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,080 Yet, at an age where many would think of retiring, 923 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,560 they showed no signs of slowing down. 924 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,800 In the next programme, the stories behind some of their most 925 00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,960 iconic buildings and biggest controversies. 926 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,720 Moving into the heart of power 927 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,600 produced a whole new set of problems. 928 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,840 You can learn more about iconic British designs 929 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,560 and the people behind them 930 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,280 with The Open University's interactive Building Stories. 931 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:20,280 Go to... 932 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,000 and follow the links to The Open University.