1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:09,239 For over a thousand years, one Church dominated Western Europe. 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,159 Roman Catholicism was the only official religion. 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:17,159 And at its centre was the Pope in Rome, 4 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:21,239 a bishop who could crown kings and launch crusades. 5 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,759 Five centuries ago, that Church was torn apart 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,679 by a vast religious revolution - 7 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,679 the Reformation. 8 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,399 In this film, I want to discover what sparked 9 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:45,399 that cataclysmic upheaval that led Christian to kill Christian. 10 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,199 Luther said the devil was raging, and it was Luther 11 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:55,199 fighting against that devil, as a prophet at the end of the world. 12 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:59,999 That one man, Martin Luther, launched an attack on corruption 13 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,679 that split the Church. 14 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,679 Europe was gripped by religious wars and atrocities. 15 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,999 The Protestants were regarded as people who polluted the city, 16 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:13,999 and it would be doing God's work if they were massacred. 17 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,479 Christianity broke into intolerant factions 18 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,479 and communities were divided for generations. 19 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:27,719 The Pope is a man of sin, and I believe the Reform faith 20 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,479 and they identify the Pope as the Antichrist, and I accept that. 21 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,359 I want to find out if the Reformation really needed to happen, 22 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,399 if it had to lead to such bloodshed and turmoil. 23 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,659 This was the greatest struggle in the history of my religion. 24 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,119 It was Christianity's civil war. 25 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,159 I was brought up a Protestant in the Church of England. 26 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,199 My family went regularly to church. 27 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,199 And Sunday School was one of the few constants in my life, 28 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,239 as my father's work took us anywhere from Bath to Singapore. 29 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:51,559 But 15 years ago I went through my own personal reformation. 30 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:55,919 The Church of England had abandoned its roots and its traditions, 31 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,439 and seemed immersed instead 32 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:03,439 in the liberalism and political correctness of the modern world. 33 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,519 That wasn't the Church I'd been brought up in, and I didn't feel 34 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,839 I belonged there any more. 35 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,839 So I left and I became a Roman Catholic. 36 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,239 I was free to make my deeply personal conversion. 37 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,999 It opened no rift with my brother, 38 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,719 who's still a vicar in the Church of England. 39 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,719 But five centuries ago it would have been very different. 40 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,999 Back then, as the Reformation swept across Britain, 41 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,799 I could have been beheaded as a traitor 42 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,839 or burned alive as a heretic. 43 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,119 For a century, the common people of England 44 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:46,119 faced waves of religious change, tyranny and persecution. 45 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,879 At the Catholic monastery of Westminster Abbey, 46 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,399 the monks were thrown out and holy relics destroyed. 47 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,759 Families were divided by their faith 48 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,759 as England became an officially Protestant country. 49 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:07,239 This immense upheaval was sparked by a crisis in Western Christianity. 50 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,599 Across Europe, 51 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,599 there were fears the Medieval Catholic Church had become corrupt. 52 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,679 There were calls for sweeping reform, 53 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,679 even panicked claims that the end of the world was approaching. 54 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:27,639 The man who brought all these hopes and fears to a head was not a king, 55 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:33,759 pope or emperor, but a lowly German monk called Martin Luther. 56 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,759 There had already been attacks 57 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:41,759 on power-crazed bishops, ignorant priests and fake holy relics. 58 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:47,319 Luther targeted a set of corrupt documents, called Indulgences. 59 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:54,599 In 1517, he made them the launch pad for his religious rebellion. 60 00:04:55,840 --> 00:04:59,759 This is Indulgence, it's a printed piece of parchment. 61 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,759 We have also got manuscripts with the same text, 62 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,799 it's a blank form, you had to fill in the name of the person who bought... 63 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,519 Received it, yeah. 64 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,959 ..who received it here in this part... 65 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,719 So whose authority was behind this certificate? 66 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,719 In this case, it was the authority of the Pope. 67 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,559 'The Church sold these simple pieces of parchment 68 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,159 'for vast sums of money. 69 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,359 'It claimed by buying one you could wipe away 70 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,279 'all the sins of a wicked life, 71 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:33,279 'and were guaranteed swift access to an eternity in heaven. 72 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,439 'Luther saw Indulgences as expensive con tricks 73 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,999 'which could never save a sinner. 74 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,839 'He laid out his argument against these symbols of Church corruption 75 00:05:46,840 --> 00:05:50,839 'in 95 academic points, or theses. 76 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:56,079 'But the Pope was less than pleased with Luther's detailed proposals.' 77 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,319 So, OK, Luther was attacking Indulgences. 78 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,959 What was so radical about that? 79 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,559 Many were critical of Indulgences, and that's of course the reason why 80 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,559 the 95 theses were so successful, 81 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,359 because people thought, "Yes, this is exactly what I think." 82 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,119 But nobody before had written really 95 theses attacking this 83 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:21,119 as a practice in the Church, and in 1520 Luther is declared a heretic. 84 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,719 Heresy was the greatest crime of the Middle Ages. 85 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,719 Luther was cast out of the Church, his books were banned 86 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,719 and the authorities were commanded to burn him alive. 87 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,639 At the same time, Luther was also raising the stakes. 88 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,519 It was no longer simply Indulgences. 89 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,439 He was now convinced that, instead of any Church ritual, 90 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,439 it was faith in God alone that would earn you a place in heaven. 91 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:54,259 For Luther, Jesus was the only leader of the Church, and the Pope, 92 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,679 who had damned him as a heretic, was actually the Antichrist, 93 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,679 his opponent in a titanic battle between good and evil. 94 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,239 I believe that the medieval Church 95 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,119 wasin need of urgent and sweeping reform. 96 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,239 But what Luther was proposing was something more than just 97 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,439 a simple attack on corruption. 98 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,839 It was something more than just an academic theological debate. 99 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,759 He was mounting a challenge 100 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,719 to the very nature and structure of the Church. 101 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:34,719 He could never have realised it, but what Luther was unleashing 102 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,039 was one of the greatest 103 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,039 political and religious revolutions in history. 104 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,239 Luther was summoned to the German city of Worms 105 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,919 and given one last chance to recant. 106 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:59,919 But, even facing death at the stake, he stood by his beliefs. 107 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,219 This is one monk against a vast monolith of a Church. 108 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,399 Why wouldn't he back down? 109 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,159 That was of course very much a viewpoint of all the Church. 110 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,599 They thought, what is this man doing, 111 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,999 really he's saying, "I'm right and all the Church, all of the scholars 112 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,319 "that gather together, they're all wrong." How can he possibly say this? 113 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,279 But Luther saw himself as a prophet, at the end of the days. 114 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,279 So he actually believed the world was going to end? 115 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,159 Yes, and if you think that and if you think 116 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,159 that the Papacy is the Antichrist, it goes along with that that you think 117 00:08:40,560 --> 00:08:44,559 everything will get worse and that are just the signs 118 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,839 of the world coming to an end. 119 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:58,119 Despite his recklessly brave stand, Luther escaped death at the stake. 120 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,479 He had won the support of a powerful prince, 121 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:08,479 who took the fugitive monk into hiding at Wartburg Castle. 122 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,879 Here, in disguise and under a false name, 123 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,759 Luther set to work on his masterpiece - 124 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:23,759 the translation of the Bible into his native tongue of German. 125 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,999 The medieval Church had used the Latin edition of the Scriptures, 126 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,719 which could be read only by priests, 127 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,479 monks and other well educated people. 128 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,479 Luther was determined to change that. 129 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:48,159 For me, this is the triumph of the Reformation. 130 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,879 The Luther Bible, with his own notes handwritten in the margin. 131 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,039 The Bible was so important to me as I was growing up. 132 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:03,439 And it was Luther who believed that everybody should have access 133 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,999 to this book, should work out their personal relationship with God. 134 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:13,759 It was this Bible which made the Reformation so necessary, 135 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,359 and this which made it a religious revolution. 136 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,959 Luther had changed Christianity forever. 137 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:30,039 But, while he had started the Reformation, he couldn't control it. 138 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,159 New Protestant groups broke away from the Catholic Church. 139 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,159 And when they read Luther's Bible they came to their own conclusions, 140 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,239 radically different from his. 141 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,079 The thousand-year monolith 142 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:49,079 of the medieval Church wasn't just cleaved in two, it was shattered. 143 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:05,519 The result was religious anarchy and political rebellion. 144 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:11,159 From 1524, hordes of rioting peasants overran Germany, 145 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:16,439 attacking corrupt priests and demanding religious reform. 146 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,559 Here, in the small town of Frankenhausen, 147 00:11:19,560 --> 00:11:21,839 the site of their bloodiest battle, 148 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,279 their struggles have been immortalised 149 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,279 in the world's largest painting. 150 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:43,439 But, rather than a victory, the panorama shows a crushing defeat - 151 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:49,359 a one-sided slaughter in which the armies of the German princes 152 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,159 annihilated the untrained peasants. 153 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:57,159 Appalled by the rebellion, Luther could now only watch 154 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,799 as the Reformation took on a violent life of its own. 155 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,879 He thinks the world is a cesspit, it's full of sin. 156 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,039 And he thought again the devil was raging, 157 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,039 he was really doing his most, now was the time for the devil, 158 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,799 and it was Luther fighting against that devil, 159 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,799 as a prophet of these last days. 160 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,359 There were now dozens of warring religious factions. 161 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,919 Germany was riven with disputes and conflict. 162 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,919 Luther had every reason to believe the Apocalypse had come. 163 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,919 This schism soon spread to touch every country in Europe. 164 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,639 And in one land 165 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,639 it became a part of royal politics and court intrigues - 166 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:02,079 England. 167 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,719 Hampton Court. England's grandest Tudor palace. 168 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,839 In the 1520s, while Luther was fighting for his life 169 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,839 against the Catholic Church, 170 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,839 Henry VIII was one of his most formidable opponents. 171 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,919 He had copies of the German monk's Bible burnt in the streets, 172 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,839 and his English followers executed as heretics. 173 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,759 The Pope was the official head of the Church in England 174 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:51,759 and gave Henry the title Defender of the Faith for his loyal zeal. 175 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,839 Yet it was this same Henry 176 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,839 who eventually brought the Reformation to England. 177 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,039 As a politician, I know how important it can be 178 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:10,039 to harness the prevailing mood, and the Reformation was a gift to Henry. 179 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,799 He wanted a male heir, 180 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,519 but his wife hadn't been able to give him one. 181 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,919 So he wanted to get rid of her and marry his mistress, Anne Boleyn. 182 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,319 The only problem was, to do that he needed his marriage annulled, 183 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,599 and the Pope said...no. 184 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,239 What does that do to Henry? 185 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,239 Well, Henry hates to be thwarted, so the first thing it does to Henry 186 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,779 is just to get angry, and Henry becomes absolutely convinced that 187 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:50,159 he should have total control over the Church, that the Pope has usurped it. 188 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,719 And he will not brook any opposition to this idea. 189 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,239 So he decided to set himself up as Head of the Church, 190 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,559 at any rate the Church in England, 191 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,559 and that he would set the rules, but was Henry convinced by Lutherism? 192 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,999 Not at all. He never accepted the real fundamentals of Lutheran belief. 193 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,679 If Henry hadn't needed a male heir, 194 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,679 would the Reformation have come to England? 195 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,359 I think it's most unlikely. 196 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,359 There was closed ranks against Lutheranism 197 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,439 in the 1520s, when Henry still thought he would have a male heir. 198 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,399 It was only after Henry took on 199 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,399 the supreme headship of the Church that things began to splinter. 200 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:36,399 Henry VIII didn't change the authority of the Church, he didn't change the structure of the Church, 201 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,119 it was just about putting him at its head instead of the Pope. 202 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,899 It had little to do with Luther's theology, and everything 203 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:53,999 to do with that crude mixture of power, pride, lust and politics. 204 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:02,439 In 1534, an Act of Parliament made the break from Rome official. 205 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:08,919 The common people were ordered to obey Henry's religious commands. 206 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,439 The first communities to feel the full force of the royal Reformation 207 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,959 were the monasteries. 208 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:26,959 Magnificent, rich and ancient, they were lifelines for local people. 209 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,879 The monks were major employers, 210 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,919 and provided charity to the poor and sick. 211 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,919 Their vast libraries were centres of learning and education. 212 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,319 All this was paid for by the monasteries' immense estates, 213 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:47,519 two million prime acres, a sixth of all the land in the Kingdom. 214 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,759 When he started the Reformation, 215 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,759 it was all about solving Henry VIII's marriage problems. 216 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,859 Oh, but soon he realised there were other advantages to being in charge 217 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,919 of the Church of England, that in the Church he now controlled 218 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,799 he had a vast source of wealth. 219 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,799 So I reckon that to the motives of lust and politics 220 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,799 we can now add greed. 221 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,759 Royal agents were ordered to draw up charge sheets against monasteries 222 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:22,799 and assess their wealth. 223 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:28,799 'In September 1539, they arrived at Glastonbury, 224 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,199 'the richest Abbey in England.' 225 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:38,039 What's the charge sheet against the monasteries, what have they done wrong? 226 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:43,439 Well, the popular perception, both in Tudor times and subsequently, 227 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,759 is that they had become horribly corrupted. 228 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:52,759 Now, as soon as one begins to dig beneath the surface of those charges, 229 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:58,759 one finds that there is far less substance to them, 230 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:04,759 because the monks provide a range of social and cultural services. 231 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,919 So what happened when the Reformation arrived? 232 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:13,919 Well, all of this, in a space of four years, is swept away. 233 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:20,799 The Abbey was ruthlessly stripped of its valuables, the land confiscated 234 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,879 and even the roof removed to stop it being used as a place of worship. 235 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,759 The Abbot of Glastonbury spoke out against the destruction, 236 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,879 and paid the price for his resistance. 237 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,239 He was found guilty on trumped-up charges, 238 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,239 and executed in a cruel mockery of Christ's Crucifixion. 239 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:49,039 He is dragged through the town to the tor, the hill outside the town, 240 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,639 where he is executed with 241 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,639 two others accused of the robbery of the treasures of the Church. 242 00:18:57,360 --> 00:19:01,359 The mode of his execution undoubtedly has a kind of 243 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,359 biblical resonance, the hill outside the town, the... 244 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:06,479 The two people either side of him. 245 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,199 The two people either side, clearly designed to deter 246 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:14,199 any others from offering resistance. 247 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,319 Greed may have been the motive, but its realisation 248 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,279 was desecration, was sacrilege. 249 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:34,279 Like Luther himself, Henry VIII had unleashed something that he couldn't 250 00:19:34,460 --> 00:19:36,959 actually any longer control. 251 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,319 And by the time the Reformation reached Somerset 252 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,239 it was no longer about theological debate, 253 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,839 wasn't even about political debate. 254 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:54,839 Now it was in the hands of some depraved and very vengeful people. 255 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,439 King Henry died six years after the last monastery fell, 256 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,439 and was succeeded by his son. 257 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,439 Unlike his father, Edward was a true Protestant believer. 258 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,559 But vast numbers of the King's subjects 259 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,559 were still, at heart, Catholic. 260 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,999 They were devoted to the medieval festivals, 261 00:20:24,120 --> 00:20:28,119 processions and relics which Edward's government now outlawed. 262 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,919 In the Devon hamlet of Morebath, 263 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,919 Church rituals had held the community together for generations. 264 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,479 The humble farming folk didn't want the Reformation, 265 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,479 but were being forced to join it by royal commands. 266 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,919 'In the parish's ancient record book, 267 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,479 'Professor Eamon Duffy has made an incredible discovery 268 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,479 'of how far they would go to protect their Catholic faith.' 269 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,399 It's the removal of the traditional Latin Mass, that's the crunch point. 270 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,559 And in the summer of 1549 271 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,199 the parish, in common with most of the other parishes of Devon, 272 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,919 rebelled against the Reformation. 273 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,919 It wasn't till I became curious about this 274 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,639 and examined the original manuscript 275 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,639 that it emerged that here we had the only surviving record 276 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:26,719 of a parish equipping soldiers to go and commit high treason. 277 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,359 By rebelling, the villagers were committing a crime 278 00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:34,279 second only to heresy itself. 279 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,599 But they chose their religion over their King. 280 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,559 The Church funded and armed five young men 281 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,839 and sent them to join the rebel siege at Exeter. 282 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,839 In order to finance this, they had a collection at the church gate 283 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,439 and the priest wrote down the names of everyone who contributed to the collection... 284 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:53,839 Contributed to treason, actually. 285 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,839 Yes, and he paid again to William Hurley, the young man, 286 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:02,039 at his going forth to St David's Downs Camp, six and eightpence. 287 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,919 Later, he crosses out, each time it occurs, 288 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:11,199 the incriminating word "camp". The word camp meant rebel camp. 289 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,199 And so this is desperately incriminating, and he makes a rather feeble attempt at covering up. 290 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,559 This wasn't trivial stuff. 291 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,919 What drove them to do it? 292 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,479 For a start, 293 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,479 this particular community had been stripped to the bone 294 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,599 by the Reformation, their dignity and independence 295 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,279 had been taken away from them. 296 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,519 And there's a tremendous sense of the worm turning, 297 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:38,519 of the West Country standing up for itself and saying, "Enough." 298 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:47,079 The royal government in London was determined to crush the protest. 299 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,759 An army of foreign mercenaries was assembled 300 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,519 and marched down to Exeter. 301 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,519 Thousands of Devon peasants were slaughtered. 302 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:06,199 The ordinary man or woman had no choice. 303 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,919 It was the King who decided what their religion was. 304 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,119 It makes me feel very angry. 305 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:17,119 The Reformation started as something, if you like to put it that way, noble 306 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,519 and it came to this - right to the heart of this ordinary, 307 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,359 law abiding, inoffensive little village, 308 00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:31,359 and it had a huge impact on people, even to the taking of life. 309 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,639 In 1553, just four years after 310 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,639 Morebath's rebellion, the King died and his sister, Mary, became Queen. 311 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,679 Unlike Protestant Edward, she was a devout Catholic. 312 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,959 After 20 years of religious change, 313 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,799 Mary ordered the people to convert yet again. 314 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,719 For the last time in history, 315 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,719 England became an officially Catholic country. 316 00:24:01,120 --> 00:24:06,119 Protestants faced five dark years of persecution. 317 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,519 Here in the market town of Lewes, 318 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,519 17 local men and women were tried for heresy. 319 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,679 They treasured their English Bibles and were committed to Protestantism. 320 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,199 So each was dragged through the town's high street and burned alive. 321 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,559 The Protestant martyrs are remembered every Bonfire Night 322 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,559 as Lewes turns into a festival of fire and thunder. 323 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:47,359 BANG 324 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,119 We have 17 crosses that we carry through the high street 325 00:24:58,120 --> 00:25:02,079 and they're lit up almost as a literal reminder of the martyrs. 326 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,079 The martyrs gave this country a freedom that we didn't have. 327 00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:10,079 Dying for their beliefs. And we're free to have opinions 328 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,079 and choices because of people like that that gave their lives. 329 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:18,079 The Reformation began with Luther's call for Christian freedom, 330 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,399 for everyone to form their own relationship with God. 331 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,679 But it's clear to me that in England 332 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,919 the Reformation had been hijacked by politics. 333 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,559 Instead of religious freedom, Kings and Queens gave 334 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:37,559 the common people a stark choice - convert or face horrific death. 335 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,959 But there's more to this. 336 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,919 This Bonfire Society burns a pope in effigy, 337 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,119 carries banners saying No Popery. 338 00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:51,719 When Cliffe Bonfire Society was founded 339 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:56,719 over 150 years ago, this wasn't just an event to remember history. 340 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:02,719 Instead, it was a fiercely anti-Catholic rally. 341 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,679 Well, they're burning the Pope in effigy, cheering as they do it. 342 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,679 They're shouting, "Burn him, burn him!" 343 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,679 I find the image of the Pope burning particularly difficult. 344 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,879 It's the one that is very solemn to Catholics. 345 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,919 That is what they're burning. 346 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,919 They don't mean it like that, but it's ghastly. 347 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,399 You're not embarrassed to be burning the Pope in effigy? 348 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,119 Oh, absolutely not, we make no apology for doing that. 349 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:46,679 And we have many Catholics in the procession itself. 350 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,039 Some of our vice-presidents are, I wouldn't know how many in Lewes are, 351 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,479 and the "no Popery" bit we make no apology for. 352 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,479 The Pope we actually blow up is Pope Paul V, and we make no apology for doing that. 353 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,679 This crowd is no lynch mob. 354 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,119 Most of them aren't even anti-Catholic. 355 00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:09,119 But this event is a deeply upsetting relic of a long and vicious history 356 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,639 of anti-Catholicism in Britain. 357 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,639 Because, as the years passed, the Reformation became more than 358 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,679 a set of theological doctrines or even royal commands. 359 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,999 Instead, being a Catholic or a Protestant became woven into 360 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,319 national identity and fundamental to how people defined themselves. 361 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,599 Those on the other side of the religious divide were seen as 362 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,439 enemies, outsiders, aliens. 363 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:42,439 Religious hatred tore nations, cities and families apart. 364 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,599 And it led to one of history's worst religious atrocities, 365 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,599 a massacre that turned a river red with blood. 366 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,759 By 1572, the Reformation had been sweeping over Europe for 50 years. 367 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,159 But the Catholic kings of France had stood firm. 368 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,919 Unlike the Tudors in England, 369 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,919 they had remained steadfastly loyal to the Pope in Rome. 370 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,959 France's monasteries stood intact. 371 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,959 Catholic processions still marched through Paris's streets. 372 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,799 Despite this, 373 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,799 one in eight Frenchmen had converted to the new Protestant religion. 374 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,639 There had been riots, feuds, and civil wars 375 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,359 but in August 1572, 376 00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:40,039 a royal wedding was arranged between a Catholic and a Protestant 377 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,039 to heal the rift. 378 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,199 Just days after the ceremony, as Gaspard de Coligny - 379 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,919 a leading Protestant - walked home from the King's palace, 380 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,719 an unseen assassin opened fire. 381 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,879 GUNSHOT 382 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,119 Coligny survived the attack. 383 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:07,119 But there were rumours of Protestant plans for retaliation. 384 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:12,559 So the Catholic royal council launched a pre-emptive strike. 385 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,359 In the early hours of the 24th of August - St Bartholomew's Day - 386 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,439 troops fanned out across Paris. 387 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,739 'They were sent to kill Coligny, and another 50 Protestant nobles.' 388 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,399 While you weren't aware of it? Yeah, yeah. 389 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,119 While you weren't aware of it? Yeah, yeah. Yes. 390 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,039 So, Mark, what was actually happening? 391 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,839 Things seem to have been going, more or less, according to plan, 392 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,079 through the night, until daybreak. 393 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,519 And by five o'clock, it seems, 394 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,959 the bodies were already beginning to stack up 395 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,199 of the leading Protestant nobles 396 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,599 in the Place Saint-Honore just over there, 397 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,319 where they were to be brought down by carts, 398 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,079 and dumped into the Seine round about there. 399 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,519 But at some point, the populace becomes involved in all of this. 400 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:01,799 Absolutely. 401 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:06,799 So it's at that point that the things start to move out of control. 402 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:08,919 CROWD SHOUTING 403 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,919 The Catholic citizens of Paris had been woken by the commotion. 404 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,119 For years, they had despised their heretical Protestant neighbours. 405 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,159 They now seized their chance, 406 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,399 and turned the targeted assassinations 407 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,399 into a general slaughter. 408 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,639 This doesn't look as if it's changed a great deal. 409 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,279 What was happening here? 410 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,719 We're in the suburbs just outside the city walls, here, Ann. 411 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,559 And it was here that lived about 1,500 or more Protestants, 412 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,959 and we have accounts, for example, 413 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,679 of a lady who was in the latter stages of pregnancy. 414 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,479 The midwife was already with her, 415 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,479 and she gets stabbed, thrown out of the window, 416 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,639 and the baby, even, is half-born as her dead body is in the streets. 417 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,999 So, it's as though people are no longer human beings. 418 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:06,999 So, it's as though people are no longer human beings. They've crossed a line. 419 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,319 So, it's as though people are no longer human beings. They've crossed a line. They have become animals. 420 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,119 But who was doing all this killing? 421 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,399 Who were these Catholics who were doing it? 422 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,919 Often, it was neighbours, people that they recognised and knew. 423 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,679 But it could be the chap next door? 424 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:18,039 Often was. 425 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:27,039 Despite royal attempts to halt the carnage, it continued for five days. 426 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,199 The River Seine ran red with blood, 427 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,519 and copycat attacks occurred across France. 428 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:39,519 10,000 Protestants died in the wave of hideous violence. 429 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,639 So, it's all been pretty horrible, 430 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,159 but why were people doing this? 431 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,559 What was the driving motivation for a man to kill his neighbour? 432 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,839 We live in a century of mass violence and genocide, 433 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,839 and we tend to think that's something unique to the 20th, 21st century. 434 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,079 It's not. It was also a feature of the 16th century, 435 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,879 it's just that the religious component is more obvious. 436 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,519 If you've been told, from the pulpit, 437 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,079 as Parisians in this city were, 438 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,839 that their city was going to be under God's judgment 439 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,839 if they allowed Protestant heretic pollution 440 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,799 to survive within its walls, 441 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,439 then it's not surprising, is it, 442 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,039 that people take into their own hands, 443 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,759 believing they're not just doing the King's will, 444 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,759 but that they're doing God's will? 445 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,599 In this city, the religious divide was so intense, 446 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,959 the Catholics no longer saw the Protestants as Frenchmen, 447 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,959 neighbours, family, or even fellow human beings. 448 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:01,479 The Reformation had led ordinary Christians to butcher one another. 449 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,399 News of the St Bartholomew's Day Massacre raced across Europe. 450 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,119 Before the Reformation, 451 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,159 a single religion had bound the continent together. 452 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,759 Now, people defined themselves as either Catholic or Protestant 453 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,119 and fought to defend that faith. 454 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,319 When the Pope heard of the Paris slaughter, 455 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:40,319 he had a medal struck to celebrate a "Glorious Catholic victory." 456 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:46,599 In 1588, his successor blessed the Spanish Armada as a crusade - 457 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,919 a holy invasion fleet - sent against heretical England, 458 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,919 where Protestant Elizabeth now ruled. 459 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,759 As the threat from abroad rose, 460 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,319 the Queen turned on the Catholics within England. 461 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,959 They were banned from celebrating the Mass, 462 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,359 their priests were outlawed 463 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,679 and for 200 years, 464 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,399 it was illegal to be a practising Roman Catholic 465 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,079 in this country. 466 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,039 But the old faith did survive. 467 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,919 Hidden away on their country estates, 468 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:30,919 a few devoted families, such as the Stonors, kept Catholicism alive. 469 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,279 What were the penalties, 470 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,439 what were the restrictions that practising Catholics 471 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,039 actually faced? 472 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,479 actually faced? depending on what you did, 473 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,159 started with treason at the top, 474 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,799 life imprisonment was the next worst, of course, 475 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,239 and then, a lesser period of imprisonment. 476 00:34:47,240 --> 00:34:50,039 So, did your family remain loyal to Catholicism? 477 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,759 Yes, there was a priest here who celebrated Mass, 478 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,959 and this, 479 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,519 they somehow continued to do. 480 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:02,519 Through the very difficult times, they hid priests here. 481 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,919 These priests were concealed in hidden compartments and holes. 482 00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:10,439 If caught, they and their accomplices 483 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,439 could have been executed as traitors. 484 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,639 On top of this legal threat, 485 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,919 Catholics also faced popular prejudice. 486 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:24,919 Hundreds of gutter-press pamphlets attacked them and their faith. 487 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,919 Well, in this library here, 488 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,839 I found these pamphlets, 489 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,519 most of which have been here from the time of their publication. 490 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,599 So, you've got here The Necessity Of Maintaining 491 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,319 The Established Religion In Opposition to Popery. 492 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,799 Yes, it's all very blunt, in your face, isn't it? 493 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:41,839 Yes, it's all very blunt, in your face, isn't it? Yeah. 494 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:42,439 This is what they're afraid of, isn't it? 495 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,319 This is what they're afraid of, isn't it? Yes, that's what they're afraid of. 496 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,999 This is what they're afraid of - "establishing popery," as they call it. 497 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,599 Here, we're into the tabloid. 498 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,079 It was...the propaganda was wild. 499 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,239 Certainly was. 500 00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:58,959 These pamphlets were published and soldon the street in London, 501 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,079 or sometimes in pubs. 502 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,519 'All the Stonors wanted 503 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,479 'was to live in peace, as both English and Catholic. 504 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,399 'But for centuries, it was claimed 505 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,599 'only Protestants could be loyal to king and country. 506 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:12,999 'British law still states 507 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,519 'that the monarch cannot be a Catholic, 508 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,759 'or even married to a Catholic.' 509 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,519 Given the history of your ancestors, 510 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,519 what they went through, what they did, how they held out, 511 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,239 are you proud of them? 512 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:29,839 Oh, yes, very. 513 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,839 I'm very proud of them indeed, 514 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,839 and I'm particularly proud that, whilst they kept their faith, 515 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,919 they were never disloyal to the sovereign. 516 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:45,199 Today, practically all the old intolerant laws have been repealed. 517 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,399 But I believe there's still plenty of anti-Catholic sentiment 518 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,319 around in Britain today. 519 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,079 And when I converted to Catholicism 15 years ago, 520 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,079 I found out just how extreme some of it still is. 521 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,199 CHEERING 522 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,759 In 1995, I was at Westminster's Catholic cathedral, 523 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,119 when the Queen made the first visit by a British monarch. 524 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,959 CHEERING 525 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,959 We were heckled by hard-line Protestants yelling, "Betrayal." 526 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:24,159 Betrayal! Betrayal! Betrayal! 527 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,839 Ever since my conversion, I have received a stream 528 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,839 of anti-Catholic letters, accusing me of betraying queen and country. 529 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,119 "Ann Widdecombe being received into Popery." 530 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,119 And they've changed "converts to Rome" to "perverts to Rome." 531 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,439 "Traitor, go and live in Rome, 532 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,999 "with the Pope and the Mafia!" 533 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,159 I'm not surprised that one didn't have any address on it. 534 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,759 According to this, I'm bringing back the Antichrist. 535 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,759 It would be easy to dismiss these letters as the ranting of lunatics. 536 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,959 But, unfortunately, 537 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,959 they are also a tragic, lasting legacy of the Reformation. 538 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,079 Ah. 539 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,999 "A Protestant country has given you the right to high office, 540 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,519 "which you have abused." 541 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,519 These letters contain the same ideas 542 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,359 that sparked the St Bartholomew's Day Massacre. 543 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,439 They maintain the perverse Reformation beliefs 544 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,439 that Catholics and Protestants are natural mortal enemies, 545 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,039 that someone can't be both Catholic and British. 546 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,039 PIPES AND DRUMBEATS 547 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,279 Most of us have now escaped from these dreadful ideas. 548 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,119 But in one region of modern Europe, 549 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,419 this language of religious hate has kept its power. 550 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,919 There, the divisions of the Reformation 551 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,959 are still marked on the streets, 552 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:53,959 and God has been called on to bless killers. 553 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,159 In the century after Luther's break with Rome, 554 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:15,159 the people of Europe were divided by religious wars and feuds. 555 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,359 But sheer exhaustion eventually led to pragmatism. 556 00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:21,079 In 1648, 557 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,879 the rulers of Europe gathered together for a massive conference. 558 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,599 They agreed the Peace of Westphalia, 559 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,359 an end to holy wars 560 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,359 and a grudging promise of religious acceptance. 561 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,559 But as ever, this tale of great men and grand ideas 562 00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:43,399 was only part of the story. 563 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,239 Actual religious tolerance was already all round them. 564 00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:51,239 This building may look like any other Amsterdam town house 565 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:56,439 but actually it conceals an extraordinary secret. 566 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,479 This house was built in the mid-17th century. 567 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,679 Holland was an officially Protestant country 568 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,679 and Dutch Catholics were banned from worshipping in public. 569 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,879 The Mass was illegal and priests were outlawed. 570 00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:20,519 But rather than a dusty storage loft, 571 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:25,519 this staircase leads to one of the hidden wonders of the Reformation. 572 00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:30,719 Ah! 573 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,799 I don't believe it. 574 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,839 They hid this. 575 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:43,839 It's a full-scale, illegal Catholic church. 576 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,999 It is appropriately called "Our Lord in the Attic." 577 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,959 It's beautiful. 578 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:02,759 This church, 579 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,759 it's not exactly something you can hide if anybody comes. 580 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,679 Did anybody know it was here? 581 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,879 Everybody knew it was here. 582 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,479 It could accommodate a congregation of a good 150, 583 00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:20,639 and of course even 150 people coming and going 584 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,039 were always going to be noticed. 585 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:28,039 All the neighbours knew. They pretended that it wasn't occurring. 586 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,639 It was much easier, wasn't it, not to notice it was just plain, 587 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,119 if you like, rather cold pragmatism? 588 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,039 There was some pragmatism involved, to be sure, 589 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,079 but these were people's neighbours, 590 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,479 these were in many cases close relatives. 591 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,479 Love thy neighbour was an injunction that crossed these religious divides. 592 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:53,599 The Attic Church represents a brave first step towards toleration. 593 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,279 Ordinary men and women, 594 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,999 who had suffered so much from the turmoil of the Reformation, 595 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,999 were drawing on the peaceful message of the Gospel. 596 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,159 Gradually, over the next 200 years, 597 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,439 hatred gave way to acceptance across Europe. 598 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:14,439 We were finally escaping the worst of the Reformation. 599 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,079 In recent times, only one region 600 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:29,279 has been plagued by that old mix of Christian division and violence. 601 00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:33,959 Like the wars of the Reformation, there were always many factors 602 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,079 here in Northern Ireland. 603 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,779 But the religious divide was always woven in to this deadly conflict. 604 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,999 Here, people are three times more likely to go to church regularly 605 00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:51,159 than they are in modern Godless England. 606 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,159 And more than that, they mark their differences on the streets. 607 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,959 Every year the Orange Order celebrates its devotion 608 00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:03,959 to fervent Protestantism. 609 00:43:14,020 --> 00:43:18,119 Religious zeal is also found in the corridors of power. 610 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,839 Northern Ireland's former first minister, Dr Ian Paisley, 611 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,839 is the founder of his own Protestant church. 612 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,839 He believes the Reformation was a breakthrough that freed Christianity 613 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,079 from the corruptions of Roman Catholicism. 614 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,039 PEOPLE CHANT 615 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:47,039 The Roman Catholic Church believes that she is the supreme church 616 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:53,519 and if you're not a member of her, you're not in the book, as it were. 617 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,719 I don't believe that, 618 00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:58,799 I believe that Christianity's basis 619 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,159 is a personal relationship to Jesus Christ, 620 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,799 rather than relationships to churches. 621 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,919 Don't you regret how the Reformation worked out in practice? 622 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,639 I don't think the Reformation was responsible for that, 623 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,599 I think that was the reaction of the Roman Catholic Church 624 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:15,079 to retain her position. 625 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,799 to retain her position. Solely? > 626 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,559 Well, there was resistance to it. 627 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,639 You think that the violence of the Reformation 628 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,439 was solely down to the Catholic Church? 629 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,199 Well, I think they started it. 630 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,119 You attacked the Pope in the European Parliament, 631 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,119 indeed you proclaimed him to be the Antichrist. 632 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,359 ...to say how much I... 633 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,359 enemy and Antichrist! 634 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,959 And all your false doctrine. 635 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,959 I denounce you! I denounce you! 636 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,479 Mr Paisley... 637 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,279 I denounce you as the Antichrist! 638 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,159 Is that still your position? 639 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,079 Do I believe in the Reform faith position? Yes, I do. 640 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,439 No, do you believe the Pope is the Antichrist? 641 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,279 Yes, what it says in the confession of faith. 642 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,079 I signed it when I was ordained, 643 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,079 that the Pope is that man of sin, that son of perdition. 644 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,719 I believe the Reform faith 645 00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:18,719 and they identify the Pope as the Antichrist and I accept that. 646 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,959 For the second time, Mr Paisley... 647 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,119 Do you regard the Pope as the enemy? 648 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,479 Well, yes, I would say... 649 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:34,479 I would say that Romanism is not good for the country 650 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,039 and it's not good for the world, and it's not good for me. 651 00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:46,599 For Protestants like Ian Paisley, 652 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,519 the Reformation remains the bedrock of their faith. 653 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,479 And, even as a Catholic, 654 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,479 I support so much of what the Reformation stood for. 655 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,939 Luther showed incredible bravery in standing by his beliefs. 656 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,039 The Bible needed to be made accessible to everyone. 657 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:15,159 The Church had to do away with indulgences and other abuses. 658 00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:19,759 Christianity needed a Reformation, 659 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,119 but I think the way it worked out in practice 660 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,119 was the most appalling tragedy. 661 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,599 I passionately believe that Christianity 662 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:35,679 can be and should be a massive force for peace in the world. 663 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:40,879 After all, the central tenet of my religion is love thy neighbour. 664 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,879 And yet, for centuries, 665 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:47,879 Christian killed Christian in the name of their faith. 666 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,919 Theological debate led to war, 667 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:56,919 persecution and religious divisions which have lasted to this day. 668 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,679 People had to convert on the orders of their ruler, 669 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,399 rather than follow their own personal convictions. 670 00:47:07,240 --> 00:47:09,199 Both Catholics and Protestants 671 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,879 lost sight of what still united them 672 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,479 as they fought over their differences. 673 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,879 I believe we should celebrate 674 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,279 the breakthroughs and the reforms that the Reformation brought about. 675 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:27,599 But we should also remember that like any family feud 676 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,839 it left behind a bitter legacy of division 677 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,879 and brought about some of the darkest moments 678 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,999 in Christian history. 679 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,999 Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd