1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,800 Where do you reckon on the fish the fingers come from? 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,160 On here? That bit. This bit? 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,000 Children can be real fussy eaters, 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,400 but when they see something on the supermarket shelf they want, 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:15,840 there's no stopping them. 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,240 So how do they make kids' favourite foods? 7 00:00:18,240 --> 00:00:20,600 Who likes chocolate Mini Rolls? 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,360 How would you get them to roll perfect every time? 9 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,040 Would you make a giant one as long as your field? 10 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,120 What do you reckon your marshmallows have got in common with that big pig there? 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,040 Do you think the piggy's made out of marshmallows? No. 12 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,200 No? I'm going to reveal the secrets behind children's party foods 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,560 by making them food factory style. 14 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,840 Most of us don't get the chance to go inside a factory 15 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,600 to see how our food is made, 16 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:06,400 so I'm going to go back to basics and set up my own supermarket production line inside this barn. 17 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,600 It may look like it's full of junk, 18 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,520 but there's everything I need 19 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:17,680 to discover the secrets of the supermarket foods that kids love. 20 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,280 Marshmallows, toasted or not, are a kids' favourite. 21 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,920 But what have they got in common with this beauty? 22 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,560 What do you think? What have your marshmallows got in common with her? 23 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,960 A bit of white on them. I'd rather eat her than them. 24 00:01:31,960 --> 00:01:35,720 Do you think the marshmallow's nice and squidgy and so is the pig? Yes. 25 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,280 Yes! Now I like pigs and I like marshmallows, 26 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,520 but what's the connection? 27 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,120 To find out, I'm going to make my own. 28 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,880 Marshmallows might look like lovely little cushions of sweetness, 29 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,360 but I'm about to blow that image out of the water. 30 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:58,200 The important ingredient to a marshmallow is gelatine 31 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,240 and gelatine is made out of pig skin and bones. 32 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,360 It's in all kinds of foods. 33 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,920 It's used as a thickener or gelling agent in jelly, 34 00:02:08,920 --> 00:02:13,360 gummy sweets, mousse and of course marshmallows. 35 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,720 Off-putting as it may seem, gelatine is made by breaking 36 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,000 down an ingredient in animal skin and bone called collagen. 37 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,760 It gives our skin its firmness too. 38 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:30,520 To get at the collagen inside my pig bits, I've got to treat it with acid. 39 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:31,760 That's why I'm wearing 40 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,240 all this protective gear. 41 00:02:34,920 --> 00:02:36,520 Right, time for the acid. 42 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,840 The acid will loosen the collagen 43 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,840 and make it easier to turn it into gelatine. 44 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,320 Seems a bit gruesome. 45 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,520 A million miles away from marshmallows. 46 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,080 Now, there are veggie alternatives to gelatine 47 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,160 but no direct replacement has been found 48 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,480 that matches gelatine's unique properties. 49 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:01,520 What gelatine does is to form a very stiff gel that melts in the mouth. 50 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,640 But this piggy-flavoured concoction 51 00:03:05,640 --> 00:03:09,120 is still a long way from melting in anyone's mouth. 52 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,760 It'll take hours for the acid to loosen the collagen. 53 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,200 Now, I've got rid of all the traces of acid. 54 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,520 The next part of the operation is to turn my pig bits into a lovely soup. 55 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:30,640 I'm putting together a simmering soup cooker to get at the gelatine. 56 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:33,640 Right, this should do the job. 57 00:03:33,640 --> 00:03:37,320 I'm adding a heating element to the bucket to keep the water 58 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:38,960 at 50 degrees Centigrade. 59 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,640 If you've ever made chicken stock at home by boiling up the bones 60 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,480 of your leftover Sunday roast, well, this is very similar. 61 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,560 It will have to soak for eight hours. 62 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,480 I'm left with this piggy stew that smells pretty meaty. 63 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,760 Next, I have to filter it. 64 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:09,320 I need a liquid containing gelatine to make my marshmallows set 65 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,680 or it's eight hours literally down the drain. 66 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,160 It's a bit whiffy. 67 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,440 It's a cross between pork scratchings gone bad 68 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,240 and the smell of wet dogs. 69 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,280 Right, need to pour it into this demijohn. 70 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:30,600 That is one smelly pork stew. 71 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:35,440 Time to put my gelatine stew to one side and get on with the sweet stuff. 72 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:41,360 Right, into this pan I'm going to put some white sugar. 73 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,520 Now, this gloopy liquid is glucose syrup. 74 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,960 It's going to make it really sweet. 75 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,480 Keep it on the heat, keep mixing until it all clears. 76 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,880 But there's still one essential ingredient missing. 77 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,880 Marshmallows are filled with thousands of tiny air bubbles, 78 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,000 that's why they're so squidgy. 79 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,040 To prove it, 80 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,480 I'm going to do something alarming with this marshmallow man. 81 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,920 I'm going to suck the air out of this jar. 82 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,960 As the pressure drops in the jar, 83 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,280 the air bubbles inside my marshmallow man 84 00:05:13,280 --> 00:05:14,440 will begin to expand. 85 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,520 Look at his body swelling up. 86 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,600 Be great if you could do this with all foods. Look at him! 87 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,760 He's nearly at the top of the jar. 88 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,160 Is he still smiling? 89 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:33,360 The secret of a successful marshmallow is lots of air. 90 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,720 Time to put it all together. 91 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,480 First the stinky stew. 92 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,480 Well, it still hasn't lost any of its aroma. 93 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,240 OK, let's measure it out. 94 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,280 There we go. 95 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,120 Look at that. Lovely and gloopy. 96 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,120 Hopefully it's packed with gelatine. 97 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,600 OK, mixing bowl. 98 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,120 Because I'm dealing with hot sugar, 99 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,160 I need these on and I'm using this - 100 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,760 my super whisker. 101 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,120 Right. 102 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,680 Now, this is pretty much all there is 103 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,520 to factory-style marshmallow making. 104 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,280 But will I get enough bubbles into this gloop 105 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:17,600 to make really squidgy marshmallows? 106 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,040 Now the sugar and the gelatine are in the bowl, 107 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,600 the key thing is to increase the mixing speed 108 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,120 because that is critical to getting more air bubbles in there. 109 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,560 The more air bubbles I get, 110 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,520 the more spongy and fluffy the marshmallows will be. 111 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,240 Time to add a splash of colour with beetroot extract 112 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,120 and a few drops of vanilla. 113 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,880 The air bubbles also help make the mixture whiter. 114 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,240 I think that's thick enough. I've whisked loads of air in there. 115 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,840 I need to get it into a mould. 116 00:06:48,840 --> 00:06:51,720 Ta da! There we go, look at that. 117 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,400 Ice cube trays, now marshmallow moulds. 118 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,200 Right. 119 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:01,640 It's beginning to look and smell more and more like marshmallows. 120 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,720 Might plaster the bathroom later. 121 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,440 Here we go. 122 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,600 All I need to do now is let them set. 123 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,120 Right, let's look at these beauties. 124 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,640 Got to get them out. 125 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,240 Here we go. Look at this. 126 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,000 You would never dream that this has come from all that pig skin. 127 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,280 Look at that. 128 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,760 Cover it in some icing sugar. 129 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,800 Isn't it amazing what you can do with acid-treated pig skin? 130 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:38,880 Look at that. 131 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,640 Squeeze. Whoop, whoop. 132 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,600 Holds its shape. Not bad at all. 133 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,920 Let's open it up because the marshmallow 134 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,600 is all about the air bubbles. 135 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,560 Little bit gooey. 136 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,320 Almost like blancmange. 137 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,520 I reckon the gelatine should have been a bit thicker, maybe. 138 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,760 You can see the air bubbles there. Look at that! 139 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:03,600 I think for a first attempt that's not bad for pig skin. 140 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,720 Let's have a little taste, see what it feels like in the mouth, 141 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,280 because it looks really gooey. 142 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,280 Feels nice. 143 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,120 Tastes a little bit piggy. 144 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,080 Yeah, looks can be deceptive! 145 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,400 There we go. My very own marshmallows. 146 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,120 We made up another batch later on. 147 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,960 How will they go down on the farm? 148 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,800 Oh, they're lovely. Lovely? 149 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,400 Beautiful. Beautiful? 150 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,040 When I made them first, they did taste quite piggy. 151 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,560 Very sugary. Do you know what they've got in common with the pig? Is it gelatine, something like that? 152 00:08:59,560 --> 00:09:03,840 Gelatine. Yeah, the pig's head and the trotters. Fancy another one? 153 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:04,920 No, thanks. 154 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,800 Really? I can definitely taste some. 155 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,880 Not too bad, you've eaten three. 156 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:18,600 There we go, guys. 157 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,480 There's one thing you can't get enough of at kids' parties 158 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:22,640 and that's puddings. 159 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,240 Strawberries and cream, 160 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,520 absolutely delicious, or even better, raspberries. 161 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,160 But these little fellas are hiding a secret. 162 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,200 On this tray, 163 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,840 which ones are berries? 164 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,880 Raspberries. Raspberries. You say that's a berry, would you? 165 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,160 You think they're berries? Do you think any others are berries here? 166 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,400 No. Grapes probably are a berry, there's a possibility. 167 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,320 If anything I would say these might be, but that's about it. 168 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,880 Bananas are not, grapes are not. 169 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,560 Well, in fact they're all berries except the raspberries. Really? 170 00:09:53,560 --> 00:09:55,760 That's a berry in name only. 171 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:00,280 Rubbish. No, it's true. Do you believe any of this? No! 172 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:05,840 Although it has 'berry' in its name, a raspberry isn't technically a berry. 173 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,800 A berry is a simple, single fruit like a grape or a banana. 174 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:14,040 But a raspberry is made up of lots of tiny fruits all clustered together. 175 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:20,520 So in a way, a raspberry is a bit like an entire bunch of grapes. 176 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:26,000 But where you'd find a raspberry in a plant encyclopaedia 177 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,080 isn't the only surprising thing about them. 178 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,520 Raspberries are incredibly fragile fruit. 179 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,600 They're easy to squish and the bugs love them. 180 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:40,960 So how do they get them from the plant to the supermarket in one piece? 181 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:48,160 Mark Gaskain produces around 70 million raspberries every year. 182 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:49,800 Hi. Nice to meet you. 183 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,440 Now what are the difficulties in growing raspberries? 184 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,680 They're a bit soft, aren't they? You've got them under a house here. 185 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:58,960 Raspberries are probably the most delicate fruit we grow here. 186 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:03,000 The reason they're under the polytunnel is to protect them from the rain, wind, 187 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,400 and actually heat as well, heat and sunlight. 188 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,520 Mark treats his raspberries like the supermodels of the farm. 189 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,880 These delicious divas are high maintenance. 190 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,960 They are a bunch of luvvies, aren't they? They are a little bit. 191 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,560 That's exactly what the strawberries say about them. 192 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,400 But these cuties can attract the wrong kind of attention - 193 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,640 biting, sucking, piercing bugs 194 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,800 that love a tasty raspberry, 195 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,920 like the raspberry beetle and the aphid. 196 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,880 But these bad boys may have met their match. 197 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,760 This high-tech kit is the latest line of defence 198 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,400 in keeping the raspberries picture perfect. 199 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,560 It storms the bugs with air heated to 100 degrees C. 200 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:56,400 It's like a giant hair dryer. 201 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,680 What we're doing is blasting it with the fans. 202 00:11:58,680 --> 00:12:01,040 We're driving through the raspberry canes 203 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,160 and for a very brief period of time hitting it with a lot of heat. 204 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,760 It's killing any pests it hits. 205 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,760 Things like aphid in particular it's very effective on. 206 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,640 Basically you're barbequing these plants very, very quickly, 207 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,720 which kills the bugs off but the plants are left unharmed. 208 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,200 Exactly. And you're reducing your pesticide usage 209 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,440 because you're doing this with a barbeque rather than a sprayer. 210 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,640 I should've brought some sausages! You should have done! 211 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,880 But there's no time for a barbecue. 212 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,680 This machine looks a blast and I want a go. 213 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,640 Scientists aren't exactly sure how this machine works. 214 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,800 One theory is that as well as getting rid of the bugs, the heat 215 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,360 shock makes the raspberry bushes tougher 216 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,840 so they're more resistant to being attacked by insects. 217 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,920 Just what these pampered softies need. 218 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,640 Well, that was a lot of fun. How was it? 219 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,920 It was good! So Mark, how well has this kit done on other farms? 220 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,280 Well, what it's done very well so far... grapes in particular, 221 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,560 in New Zealand and I think Chile have done really well out of it. 222 00:13:09,560 --> 00:13:11,520 Still early days for us with raspberries. 223 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:12,800 You're at the cutting edge. 224 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:17,120 You're not just giving your raspberries a bit of pampering with a blow drier? 225 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,880 Er, no. Blow dry and set? 226 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,800 Not today. No, this is genuinely pesticide reduction. 227 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:28,280 Fewer pesticides can't be bad and fewer bugs 228 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,480 means all the more raspberries for us. 229 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,720 So this is obviously the picking process. 230 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,400 Can we have a go? Yeah, please do. 231 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,600 Obviously quite straightforward. Pluck them off. Pluck them off? 232 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,920 If it's properly ripe, they should come away nice and easily. 233 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:46,680 So the idea is gently coax them off and keep that lovely shape. 234 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:50,040 They're all picked by hand, aren't they? Absolutely. 235 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,160 They're only touched once. Only touched once? Just once. 236 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,480 The whole point of this is trying to get it right in the field. So we pick it carefully, 237 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,320 grade it in the punnet so that it's all the same standard. 238 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,240 There's no reason to touch these again until they arrive 239 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,400 in Mrs Jones' fridge in Worcestershire. 240 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,080 If these raspberries could talk, 241 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,640 they wouldn't talk to the likes of us, would they? No! Certainly not. 242 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,440 These raspberries have had five-star treatment all the way, 243 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,360 so I reckon this is going to come as a bit of a shock. 244 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,960 Delicious! 245 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,600 A real party favourite, fish fingers. 246 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,640 Now I've got a whole cod here. 247 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,480 Look at that. Look at the head on him. 248 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,560 But this beauty would soon go off if I left him sitting here. 249 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,800 So how do the food factories try to make frozen fish 250 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,880 taste like fresh fish? 251 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:54,760 To find out, I'm going to make my own premium fish fingers. 252 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,840 First, I need to build a fish freezer. 253 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,520 I've got a bucket, a metal tray, 254 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,560 some copper piping and a load of rubber tubing. 255 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,000 Mm. I know what I'm doing. When it comes to freezing fish 256 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,760 and turning it into fingers, no-one knows more than Clarence Birdseye. 257 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:17,920 You might have heard of him. 258 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,720 Before he set up his frozen food empire, 259 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,800 Clarence Birdseye was a scientist. 260 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:29,240 He visited the Arctic and saw people freezing fish very quickly in the icy conditions. 261 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,360 When cooked though, 262 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,720 it was very hard to tell it apart from freshly caught fish. 263 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,080 And that gave him a very cool idea. 264 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:44,400 Clarence Birdseye reckoned that it was freezing the fish fast that made it taste good. 265 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,600 So he invented a fast-freezing plate. 266 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:53,040 I'm trying to do the same thing with my tubes, ladder and bucket. 267 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,840 This is my plate freezer. 268 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,840 Now I'm going to put some really cold liquid in this bucket 269 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,000 which is going to flow through this tube, along this piping. 270 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,720 It's going to chill these trays well below the freezing point 271 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,560 of any food I put between them. 272 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:13,600 I'm using methylated spirits, also known as white spirit, because it stays liquid at 273 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:19,120 very low temperatures, so it won't freeze solid and block the pipes. 274 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:24,840 I'm going to put this dry ice into these metal containers which will chill down the white spirit. 275 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:31,880 Dry ice is solid carbon dioxide at minus 78 degrees C. 276 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,680 I just need to pop the container into my bucket of meths. 277 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,120 I'll leave it to get really cold and while that's happening, 278 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,040 I can get to grips with the fish. 279 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,320 Now the first thing to do is start off with lots of fish fillets. 280 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:54,960 The fillets are then packed in trays and then frozen so you end up with great big slabs of solid fish. 281 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:06,160 And hopefully every bit of the fillet will find its way into a fish finger. 282 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,640 Back at the plate freezer, the meths has been chilling away nicely. 283 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,040 But is it cold enough to fast-freeze my fish? 284 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,840 Right, let's give it a go. Turn the tap on. 285 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,600 It's all frosted already at the top. 286 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,440 The tap's frozen. 287 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,040 Oh, there we go. 288 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:31,160 I can hear it, so it's making its way all the way through this tube. 289 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,280 Let's feel it. That is really, really cold. Ooh! 290 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,560 The meths is being chilled by the dry ice. 291 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:53,040 My plate freezer needs to be about minus 30 to freeze the fish quickly. 292 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,760 The colder it is, the faster the fish will freeze, 293 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,400 and fast-freezing is the secret to decent fish fingers. 294 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,280 Wow, look at that. 295 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,280 That's well below minus 30, which is fantastic, really, really cold. 296 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,680 Time to freeze the fish. 297 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,520 In go a dozen fillets of fish. 298 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,440 Like a polar bear's dinner in there. 299 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,880 Now, put the pillows on. 300 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,720 That'll keep the cold in. 301 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,160 Perfect. 302 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,640 I'll come back to my fish in a couple of hours to see how they're getting on. 303 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,280 Kids love Mini Rolls, but if you've ever tried to make a Swiss roll, 304 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,440 then you'll know how hard it is. 305 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,000 Do you think you could eat all that? No. 306 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,840 So how could you roll millions of these without cracking up? 307 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:06,840 At this factory in Liverpool, they make 15,000 Mini Rolls an hour. 308 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:12,880 Every single one has to roll perfectly and it's down to John Reid to make sure that happens. 309 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,200 So what are the big problems when you're making a Mini Roll? 310 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,640 Basically, we've got to make sure we can roll it correctly 311 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,440 without either it springing open or cracking. 312 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,360 We don't want it to crack. 313 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,840 They start by making the batter in this high-speed batter mixer. 314 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:38,360 So all the ingredients in here now all looking really good. 315 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:39,960 Is this ready to go? 316 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,640 Apart from one ingredient, Jimmy. What's that? Air. You put air in? 317 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:50,240 Air is piped into the mixture to create millions of tiny bubbles. 318 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,360 It's the ingredient that helps make the batter exactly the right 319 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:57,720 consistency for its big moment - rolling. 320 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,760 It's so important they test every batch. 321 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,600 We take a little cup with a specific volume. 322 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,160 It's got a little hole in the bottom and we measure 323 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,120 how much batter falls through that little hole in one minute. Right. 324 00:20:10,120 --> 00:20:13,880 So if it runs out really quickly. It's very thin. 325 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:18,080 If it takes ages, it's too thick. If it dribbles out like that? 326 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,720 Just right. Just right. 327 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,920 So ready to bake? We're ready to bake now, Jimmy. Perfect. 328 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:31,360 The man who turns the batter into spongy Mini Rolls is Tony Monks. 329 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:35,480 This is where we put our batter onto the conveyor belt to go into the oven for baking. 330 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,720 What's stopping the mixture from spreading out all over the place? 331 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:43,400 Because the batter's so consistent and it's got air within there, it holds the structure together. 332 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,160 And you've got this really snazzy James Bond laser beam here. 333 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,800 What's that for? 334 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,840 That measures the height of the batter and the width of the batter. 335 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,040 If it's is just one millimetre too thin or too thick, 336 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,720 it could be all over. 337 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,480 It's important for the rolling process, to stop it from cracking. 338 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,480 If you don't get the right height, you won't be able to roll it? 339 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,520 We won't. So where's it going now, then? 340 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,960 It's now going through the conveyor and into the oven. 341 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,720 Right, baking time. It is baking time. 342 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,240 Ah, look at that. That has risen, hasn't it? 343 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,680 Yes, this is where we start to see the cake rise. 344 00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:25,200 Look at this. Is this cooked properly? It is, yes. 345 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,840 It's spongy, isn't it? It's very springy. 346 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,440 What's the underneath like? 347 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,160 If you look at the underneath, it's slightly harder. So we've got a harder base. 348 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,720 Look at that. Hang on, isn't that hard, crusty bit meant to be on top? 349 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,520 That's why we've got the big wheel at the end to turn it over. 350 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,600 With the sponge baked, it's time to add the filling. 351 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,040 It still doesn't look very roll shaped. 352 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,600 Ah, right. So this is where you cut it and roll it? 353 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,000 No, this is just where we roll it, but we roll it lengthways. 354 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,360 To roll it lengthways, the flat sponge is lifted up by thes 355 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:05,800 metal plates at the end of the line. 356 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,400 One side of the sponge is tucked under the other. 357 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:13,080 If the batter is spot on, it should emerge looking more roll shaped. 358 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,520 Looking good, no cracks. 359 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,840 But hang on! These aren't Mini Rolls. 360 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:25,200 They're over six metres long. They're Maxi Rolls. 361 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,360 They need trimming, and not with a kitchen knife. 362 00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:33,000 When you get a normal knife and a Mini Roll and you cut it... 363 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,640 Oh, I see. 364 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:39,280 Because that pressure squeezes the sponge down, you end up with a flat end, don't you? It does, yeah. 365 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,920 And that won't do. 366 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:49,560 Tony's knife vibrates up and down thousands of times a second. 367 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,480 The blade cuts through the Mini Roll using hardly any pressure. 368 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:58,240 The result - a razor-sharp slice. 369 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,880 Mums, you can rest easy. 370 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,520 The Mini Rolls are rolled, packed and on the way to the supermarkets. 371 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,600 All it took was intricate ingredient engineering 372 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,280 and a very, very fast knife. 373 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,200 Back at the barn, I'm making fish fingers from fish fillets, 374 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,240 like the posh ones in the supermarket. 375 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:32,280 So far I've tried to fast-freeze a big slab of fish. 376 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,760 But will it have frozen fast enough? 377 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,920 I've got this piece of fish to show you the difference 378 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,640 between fast-freezing and slow-freezing. 379 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,320 Last night it was frozen slowly over nine hours. 380 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,920 Look what happens now that I've defrosted it. 381 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,080 Look at that. 382 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,080 It's like a sponge. 383 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:57,320 If I cooked that, it would be really, really dry and a bit tough. 384 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,600 That's because all the moisture that's leaked should still be 385 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,200 in the fish flesh, but as the fish freezes it seeps out. 386 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,920 So the longer the freezing takes, the worse it gets. 387 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,720 To prove it, I've got a bit of fish that's been fast-frozen. 388 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,360 Let's give it a squeeze. 389 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,440 I can really squeeze it. I don't want to mash it, but look. 390 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,080 Hardly any water at all coming out, which means 391 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,880 if I cook that bit of fish, it should stay nice and succulent. 392 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:32,640 So will my fish fingers be juicy and flaky or dry and tough? 393 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,520 Right, the fish has been in here for about two hours now. 394 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,000 I've put a little bit of dry ice on top just to help with the freezing. 395 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,240 Now the temperature probe is right in the middle of the fish 396 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,920 and it's reading at minus 25 degrees, 397 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,440 which means the fish has frozen really quickly. 398 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,880 Just what I wanted. 399 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,920 Fish fingers crossed, then! 400 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,840 Now to open my plate freezer and take out the fish. Look at that! 401 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,960 Now that is one slab of fish. Look at it. 402 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,120 You can see all the fillets along here, all the muscles of the fish. 403 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,760 It's like a big, fish sandcastle. 404 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,120 There we go, look at that. Now for the clever bit. 405 00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:19,360 I've got to turn this into fish fingers, 406 00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:21,800 which involves sawing it up. 407 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:27,520 My frozen fish is so tough I'm slicing it up with a power saw. 408 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,200 This is pretty much how they do it in the factory. 409 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,760 OK, here we go. I'm going to saw 410 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,200 my fish up. I'll be very careful. 411 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,880 It's working. 412 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,640 Look at that! 413 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:54,800 Look at that. 414 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:55,920 It's a little bit thick 415 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,880 but properly home-made. I'm pleased with that. 416 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,640 That's beginning to look like a fish finger. 417 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,920 The final step is to give them a coating of batter and breadcrumbs. 418 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,760 These aren't finished yet. To stop the breadcrumbs 419 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,200 coming off in the packet, I'm going to give them a quick fry. 420 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,240 Now, I'm not cooking these. 421 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,160 The idea is to give them a really, really quick fry because I want to 422 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,720 make it nice and crispy but I want to keep the fish frozen. 423 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,640 So they get just 25 seconds in the deep-fat fryer. 424 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,640 Then it's back into another freezer to chill down the coating 425 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,760 and off to the supermarket. 426 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,520 But I want to taste some of mine, so I'm cooking a few in the oven. 427 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,440 Will they be succulent and flaky or tough as old boots? 428 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,280 Now, I know what you're thinking. 429 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,080 They're not exactly fish fingers, 430 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,960 are they? More like fish thumbs. 431 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,960 Right, let's have a look. 432 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,800 A bit fat. Great colour. 433 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,360 The important thing, 434 00:26:56,360 --> 00:26:58,480 what I'm really looking for, 435 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,880 is that beautiful flakiness. 436 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,240 Oh, yes, look at that. Look at that when I open it up. 437 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,960 It all opens up and you see all those flakes. 438 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,240 Brilliant. 439 00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:15,400 Mmm. 440 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,560 Good crunch. 441 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,360 Good flavour. 442 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:21,200 Really, really flaky. 443 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,680 And they're deliciously juicy. 444 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,400 Just what I wanted. Got to say - success. 445 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,000 Really got the flakiness, didn't get the shape. 446 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,880 Next time they're going to be more like fingers. 447 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,200 There we go. My very own fish fingers. Delicious. 448 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:59,840 Next time you're in a supermarket with the kids, you can tell them what's really in a marshmallow, 449 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,520 how to roll a Mini Roll and what makes fish fingers so tasty. 450 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,120 Food Factory answers to supermarket secrets. 451 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,000 Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd 452 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,960 Email subtitling@bbc.co.uk