1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,280 For 500 years our little island Britain 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,480 has punched above its weight around the world... 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,480 Getting Our Way. 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,920 The means to our success? 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,320 Not just gunboats and commerce, but ruthless power broking, 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:28,120 Machiavellian manoeuvring and plenty of charm - diplomacy. 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,240 Diplomats are the people you don't often get to hear about. 8 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,400 It is the kings and queens, the politicians and the generals 9 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:40,000 who dominate the history books, but this series is about my predecessors, 10 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,240 who championed Britain's interests abroad - ambassadors and envoys, 11 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,040 power-brokers and negotiators. 12 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,160 You must never forget 13 00:00:49,160 --> 00:00:52,640 that it is British interests you are there to promote and protect. 14 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:57,360 You are constantly having to talk to, make deals with, 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,560 make concessions to, people who, in other ways, are doing things 16 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,880 you thoroughly dislike and disapprove of. 17 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,520 You have to be a bit of a schemer, 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,120 otherwise you can't do the job properly. 19 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,800 As Our Man in Washington, I saw history in the making. 20 00:01:17,960 --> 00:01:22,280 Now, I'm going back over the last five centuries to put myself 21 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,600 in the shoes of different diplomats 22 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:29,360 who helped Britain's rise to greatness...and managed our decline. 23 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,040 Our diplomacy must always be driven by the national interest. 24 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,960 That's easier to say than to define, but of one thing we can be sure, 25 00:01:39,960 --> 00:01:44,320 our top priority is, as it has always been, our security. 26 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,520 Well, it's the irreducible national interest 27 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,280 and this is the minimum 28 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,160 a diplomat or statesman 29 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,600 must try to accomplish. 30 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,200 When I was at school, I was taught that the roaring seas 31 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,400 had protected England from invasion for a thousand years. 32 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,520 But back in the 16th century, we were far from safe. 33 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,880 For Queen Elizabeth I, a key line of defence, was not the roaring seas, 34 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,160 but her spymasters and diplomats - 35 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,800 ruthless, pragmatic men, like Lord Burghley and Sir Francis Walsingham, 36 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,680 who had made it their life's mission 37 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,560 to confound the Queen's foreign Catholic enemies. 38 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,680 What I would give to have been in that game! 39 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,160 The nearest I got to it was playing cat and mouse 40 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,560 with the KGB in Soviet Russia. 41 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:23,520 In 1572, shocking news arrived from across the Channel, 42 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:28,160 where Elizabeth's chief spy, Walsingham, ran our Paris embassy. 43 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,760 Thousands of Protestants had been slaughtered on St Bartholomew's day. 44 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,840 Throats were slashed and bodies dismembered. 45 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,160 The River Seine ran red with blood. 46 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,880 Burghley called it, "the greatest crime since the Crucifixion". 47 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,560 The grisly news from France tapped into a deep fear 48 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,240 that a great international Catholic conspiracy would come together 49 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,360 to depose Elizabeth and restore Catholicism in England. 50 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,360 The Pope had just issued a Bull, calling for the violent overthrow 51 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,120 of "this monstrous heretic". Poor Elizabeth. 52 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,480 As they said about Richard Nixon, just because you're paranoid, 53 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,800 it doesn't mean that they aren't out to get you. 54 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:21,040 The survival of the nation, no less, was at stake 55 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,640 and the Queen immediately summoned a diplomat for help. 56 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,880 He was a Cornishman and his name was Henry Killigrew. 57 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,120 Killigrew was one of a new breed of professional diplomats, 58 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,760 key players in the 16th century world of rapidly shifting alliances, 59 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,720 cold-blooded assassinations and devious espionage. 60 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,080 Elizabeth I might not yet have had a Foreign Office, 61 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,040 but she had moved from the medieval world 62 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,120 into a recognisably modern era of professional statecraft, 63 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,760 where resident ambassadors abroad kept a wary eye on neighbour states 64 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,920 in the defence of Britain's national interest. 65 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:23,240 So much of real history happens behind the scenes, 66 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,320 where diplomacy likes to ply its trade. 67 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,760 These days, ambassadors summoned home to see the Foreign Secretary 68 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,680 come here - the Ambassadors' Waiting Room 69 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,760 at the very heart of the Foreign Office. 70 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,080 It can be nerve-wracking awaiting orders. 71 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:51,840 Eventually, Henry Killigrew's moment came from his queen. 72 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:55,360 Killigrew had earned a reputation as a troubleshooter, 73 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:00,080 whose discretion was such that there is not a single portrait of him. 74 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,600 Less than a fortnight after the Paris Massacre, 75 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,840 Elizabeth gave him instructions for a new and vital foreign mission. 76 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,920 Without even pausing to say goodbye to his wife and children, 77 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,160 Killigrew made haste. 78 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,920 From Paris, Walsingham had reported rumours of plans 79 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,480 of a French military enterprise against England 80 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,080 and he strongly advised that steps should be taken 81 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,120 to shut up what he called the "postern gate". 82 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,520 BAGPIPES PLAY 83 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,120 And that postern gate was Scotland. 84 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:48,080 Edinburgh in 1572 was up for grabs. 85 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,720 A two-year civil war had reached stalemate 86 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:55,120 and Killigrew's task was to negotiate a settlement 87 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,240 between the rival Scottish factions. 88 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,720 Holed up inside Edinburgh Castle 89 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,400 were the Catholic supporters of the dethroned Mary Queen of Scots, 90 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,600 Elizabeth's most dangerous rival for the English crown. 91 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,840 We are the Billy Boys! 92 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,400 Keeping them under siege was the Protestant faction 93 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,880 that governed as Regent in the name of Mary's infant son, King James. 94 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,520 Why on earth should Elizabeth, as the Texans say, have a dog in this fight? 95 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,880 Well, it was already bad enough that Mary had a respectable claim 96 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,920 to the English throne, but what really rang the alarm bells in London 97 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,320 was the danger of the French joining in on Mary's side. 98 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,400 There was an "auld alliance" 99 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,760 between Scotland and France against the "auld enemy", England, 100 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:56,440 and what Elizabeth dreaded most of all was Scotland becoming 101 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:01,920 part of a Catholic 'Axis of Evil' on England's doorstep. 102 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,360 Well, the 'auld alliance' stretches back to the late 13th century. 103 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,480 I mean, it had already been running the best part of 400 years 104 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,360 by the time we got to Killigrew. 105 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,360 But, of course, Scotland had just actually come out of 106 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,120 a union with France. 107 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,120 Mary's mother, Mary Guise, a very, very formidable woman, 108 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,760 and she'd have had Henry Killigrew for breakfast, incidentally. 109 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,120 She'd negotiated a union with France, so that Scotland 110 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,040 was in a union with France before it was in one with England. 111 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,200 Killigrew made it his business to sow mistrust of the French in Scotland, 112 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,440 by building a network of influential contacts and making sure 113 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,880 they all heard the news about the Paris Massacre. 114 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,320 I mean, this is reasonably typical of the sort of tradition 115 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:53,120 of the English statecraft and diplomacy being of divided rule, 116 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,360 so separate your opponents, try to divide and make the enemy uncertain. 117 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,200 In fairness to that sort of statecraft, I mean, you could argue 118 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,080 that kept an empire together for the best part of 200 years. 119 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,800 Before I went as Ambassador to Saudi Arabia, 120 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,320 a very wise predecessor of mine gave me a word of advice 121 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,560 which I have subsequently passed on to a lot of younger members 122 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:22,400 of the Foreign Service and that was, "if it moves, call on it". 123 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:28,320 And I spent a lot of my time, and I may say the recipients of my calls 124 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,640 were very tolerant of it, I spent a lot of my time just simply in going 125 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,320 calling on people, not necessarily to do any particular piece of work, 126 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,440 but to keep in contact, 127 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,760 because you never know when you're going to need that contact. 128 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,000 Scotland was a bracing experience for a Sassenach diplomat. 129 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,080 Even Killigrew, a Machiavellian's Machiavelli, 130 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,080 felt obliged to report to Elizabeth and her advisers that 131 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:03,480 "these men be so devilled and uncertain in their doings 132 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,560 "as I cannot tell what to write of them, 133 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:12,120 "but of this, your honour may be assured, I trust no-one further 134 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,200 "than I see with my eyes or feel with my fingers". 135 00:10:17,560 --> 00:10:19,840 What, so trusting, Killigrew? 136 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,600 First Minister, what does that tell you about the way 137 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,200 in which the English tried to deal with the Scots? 138 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,280 Well, it just tells me that Henry was a diplomat, wasn't he? 139 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,040 Sent abroad to lie for his country, so his attitude to the Scots 140 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,800 was no different probably his attitude to the French 141 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,440 or anyone else would have been. 142 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,440 I think it's a bit much if you're sent in effectively as a spy 143 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:44,320 to try and interfere in the Scottish succession then to start complaining 144 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,560 about your hosts, as opposed to your own nefarious motives. 145 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,000 The Scottish Catholics inside the Castle might have been wise 146 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,080 not to trust Killigrew himself too far. 147 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,400 There was also a hidden agenda to Killigrew's mission, 148 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,480 a set of instructions that dared not speak its name. 149 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,680 An enterprise so hush-hush 150 00:11:06,680 --> 00:11:09,880 that it was written down in a separate document. 151 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:14,000 These secret instructions were drafted by Elizabeth's 152 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,080 main adviser, and Killigrew's brother-in-law, Lord Burghley. 153 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:22,080 You can see from the crossings out that this was, shall we say, 154 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,560 a tricky document to write. 155 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:29,240 "It is found daily more and more that the continuance of the Queen of Scots 156 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:34,320 "here is so dangerous, both for the person of the Queen's Majesty, 157 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:39,040 "and for her state and realm, as nothing presently is more necessary 158 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,680 "than that the realm might be delivered of her". 159 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,440 Killigrew was being instructed by Elizabeth to devise a plan that would 160 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:54,280 deliver Mary Queen of Scots into the hands of her Scottish enemies. 161 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,400 "Use all good speed, with the most secrecy that you can, to understand 162 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,360 "their minds and yet to deal to your uttermost, that this matter might 163 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,680 "be rather opened to you, than yourself to seem first to move it". 164 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,840 In other words, cunningly persuade the Regent's party 165 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,400 to assassinate Mary and make them think it's their own idea. 166 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,920 Mary was a threat to the throne and to England's security. 167 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,880 She had to go - without the English queen getting her own hands dirty. 168 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,040 For Killigrew, with his strong Protestant faith 169 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,080 and intense loyalty to the Queen, 170 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,720 if the nation were under threat, the end justified any means. 171 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,520 Softly, softly, he sounded out the Regent's party, 172 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,360 headed by the Earls of Mar and Morton, 173 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:54,240 about carrying out judicial murder on behalf of the English Queen. 174 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,040 "Give us money and soldiers 175 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:01,040 "and only then will we do your dirty work", they said. 176 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,360 But Killigrew knew that Elizabeth would be extremely reluctant 177 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,360 to get involved in a costly war in Scotland. 178 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,880 So how could he keep the Protestant party onside? 179 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,800 Killigrew could not promise what his Queen was unwilling to deliver, 180 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,520 but he knew better than to give an outright refusal. 181 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,640 He disappeared into a fog of vague assurances to keep his 182 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:28,680 allies onside, even feigning illness at one particularly tricky moment. 183 00:13:28,680 --> 00:13:34,880 It's a tried and tested weapon in the diplomat's armoury. Playing for time. 184 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,000 I'm not sure that being a Machiavellian, scheming type 185 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,240 is not a rather good description of what a diplomat ought to be. 186 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,280 You have to be very thoughtful, 187 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:49,080 you have to find ways to get your way, to get your country's way, 188 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,880 and often that means you can't be entirely straightforward. 189 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,800 What you must never do is lie. Once you lie, 190 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,520 your credibility is destroyed, not just on that occasion, but forever. 191 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,280 So you have to be very careful, but equally, there are ways 192 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,920 of presenting things and, perhaps, occasionally 193 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,480 withholding certain aspects, which could be considered relevant, 194 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,240 but maybe you don't want to emphasise. So you have to be 195 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,280 a bit of a schemer or you can't do the job properly. 196 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,600 As New Year's Day 1573 dawned, 197 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,760 the ceasefire between the Scottish factions was broken by cannon fire. 198 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,560 Mary's party in the castle fired a warning shot onto the town below. 199 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,440 They expected military help from France imminently 200 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,080 and were spoiling for a fight. 201 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,000 With Scotland once again at boiling point, 202 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,480 Killigrew decided that he needed new instructions urgently. 203 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,680 He made a secret trip home. 204 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,440 The time had come for diplomacy to be backed by force. 205 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,960 He had to persuade the Queen to send guns and troops 206 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:03,040 to help the Regent's party defeat the Scottish Catholics, 207 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:07,080 even though they were back-pedalling from the secret plot to kill Mary. 208 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:13,320 Sometimes, a diplomat has to use his arts of persuasion as much back home 209 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,400 as in the country to which he is posted. 210 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,240 Getting your government, or in this case, your queen, 211 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,080 to accept that you know better what is in the nation's interest. 212 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,760 I have to admit that my own record in this respect 213 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,680 was patchy at the best of times! 214 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,400 But you are failing in your duty if you don't tell it like it is. 215 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:35,200 Too bad if that is not the message people want to hear back home. 216 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,680 You have to recommend on policy 217 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,640 and you haven't to be afraid in your recommendations. 218 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,280 The worst kind of diplomat 219 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,320 is one who tells his Foreign Secretary 220 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,600 what he thinks the Minister wants to hear. 221 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,720 Talking the notoriously stubborn Elizabeth into anything wasn't easy, 222 00:15:55,720 --> 00:16:00,520 but Killigrew was a trusted and, above all, persuasive adviser 223 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:05,520 and he returned to Scotland with 10,000 gold crowns for the Regent, 224 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,120 to be followed by an army of 1,500 English soldiers. 225 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,920 The English guns sailed into Leith harbour and trundled up here 226 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,640 to face the castle. It must have been an impressive sight, 227 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,680 but a sight to fill you with dread 228 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,080 if you were standing guard on the ramparts. 229 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,440 Even Killigrew, who had once been a soldier, 230 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:32,040 got his hands dirty, and helped dig the gun mounts with pick and spade. 231 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,640 The only time I ever used an ambassadorial shovel 232 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,160 was to plant a tree in the embassy vegetable garden. 233 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:44,720 When the guns finally opened fire, it took just 11 days' bombardment 234 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,600 before the eastern defences of the medieval castle 235 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,800 came crashing to the ground. 236 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,960 Thanks to Killigrew's resourcefulness, astute reading 237 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:01,520 of the situation and deft footwork, the Queen's enemies were confounded 238 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,760 and the postern gate shut tight. It was not a moment too soon. 239 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:10,160 Inside the castle, Killigrew found the hard evidence 240 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,240 that the rebels had expected help 241 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,080 not just from the French, but from Catholic Spain, as well. 242 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,080 As for Mary Queen of Scots, she never did suffer extraordinary 243 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,120 rendition to Scotland, but 14 years later, 244 00:17:27,120 --> 00:17:30,360 she felt the English executioner's axe. 245 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,120 500 years on, Henry Killigrew is sitting on his diplomatic cloud, 246 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:39,600 observing us from the great Foreign Office in the sky. 247 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,080 He'll see that much has changed. 248 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,480 Quills and manuscripts have gone, 249 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,840 replaced by strange, infernal machines. 250 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,400 And the magnificence of the ambassador in his doublet, 251 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,960 codpiece and hose, have given way to boring suits. 252 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,840 But Killigrew could have done my job in Washington, just as, I hope, 253 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:05,120 I could have done his in Edinburgh, because the essential skills 254 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:07,760 of the diplomatic trade have remained unchanged. 255 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,440 The ability to negotiate, to interpret, to persuade. 256 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,840 All of this to get your way in the nation's interest. 257 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,920 For a young diplomat like me, 258 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,560 the Madrid embassy in General Franco's dying days 259 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:39,040 was an exciting place to be, but it was regularly blighted by the 260 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:43,800 protocol hell of having to organise the Ambassador's dinner parties. 261 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,560 I was far too junior to be invited myself, but I had to spend hours 262 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,640 devising seating plans that reflected the fiendish complexity 263 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,760 of Spanish protocol. 264 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:03,200 I got it wrong once, when a Duque walked out of the Ambassador's dinner 265 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,720 because he thought a mere Marques had a better seat. 266 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,560 The Ambassador's receptions are noted in society for their host's 267 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,760 exquisite taste, that captivates his guests. 268 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,840 Truth is, life wasn't a million miles away 269 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,560 from the cliche of the diplomatic circuit. 270 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,960 Though in all my time, I never clapped eyes on a Ferrero Rocher. 271 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,200 Excellente. With this Ferrero Rocher, you are really spoiling us. 272 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,960 Ferrero Rocher. 273 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,680 A sign of good taste. 274 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,400 So does this flim-flam matter? 275 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,280 Diplomatic history tells us that it does. 276 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,960 The peace and security of Europe has even depended on it. 277 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:08,480 It's the capital of the Austrian Empire in late 1814 278 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,000 and just about everyone who was anyone accepted an invitation 279 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,920 to attend the Congress of Vienna. 280 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:25,080 The city's population swelled by 100,000 visitors. 281 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,840 The hosts laid on for their guests 1,500 liveried servants, 282 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:34,480 more than 100 new carriages and 1,200 extra horses, all of them white. 283 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,400 Beethoven was on hand to compose and conduct the music, 284 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,840 as Europe's statesmen and diplomats, their wives and mistresses, 285 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,240 gathered to join a party which would last the best part of a year. 286 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,440 With just a touch of that pomp and circumstance, 287 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,240 I've come with my wife, Catherine. 288 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,240 My goodness, I missed my time, by a couple of centuries or so. 289 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,720 The European Union in bureaucratic Brussels, this was not. 290 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,560 There were glittering parties aplenty and, most important of all, 291 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,840 a real sense of history in the making. 292 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,440 The delegates had gathered to bring peace to the continent 293 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,440 after decades of warfare. 294 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,720 Perhaps the most important person in town was not the Austrian emperor, 295 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,160 not the Russian tsar and certainly not a mere king, 296 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,600 though Prussia, Denmark, Bavaria and Wurttemberg all sent theirs. 297 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,080 He was the British representative. 298 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,240 In my book, one of Britain's greatest diplomats. 299 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,960 Robert Stewart, Viscount Castlereagh, an Anglo-Irishman in his mid-40s, 300 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,840 was Britain's Foreign Secretary. 301 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,000 He arrived in Vienna in 1814 with one guiding principle - 302 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,880 that security and peace for England 303 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,680 depended on security and peace in Europe. 304 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,600 The French Revolution 25 years earlier had set in motion a war 305 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,520 that saw most of Europe fall to Napoleon, 306 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,400 before his eventual defeat leading to abdication and exile. 307 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,560 Now in 1814, it was time to divide the spoils and, 308 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,720 from a myriad of competing claims, 309 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:39,240 draw up in Vienna a new blueprint for Europe's reconstruction. 310 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,720 Here was a situation where 311 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,640 Europe had been at war for nearly a quarter of a century. 312 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,120 It's quite a difficult thing for us to imagine, 313 00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:51,560 because we've not experienced that in our lifetime, thankfully, 314 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,000 or, indeed, ever since. Although there has been the two World Wars, 315 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,880 there hasn't been a war of that length, almost an entire 316 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:03,400 generation in length, of conflict in Europe from 1792 onwards. 317 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,000 And so the people who came to the end of that conflict 318 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,720 were looking for an entirely new framework, 319 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,600 looking for something that would mean there would be 320 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,280 no more wars in Europe. 321 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,360 So, they were looking for a very ambitious solution. 322 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,600 Behind him, Castlereagh had the might of the growing British Empire, 323 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,840 deep pockets and unchallenged naval supremacy. 324 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,840 So what Britain wanted, Britain was likely to get. 325 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,040 Castlereagh was our first great Foreign Secretary. 326 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:41,080 He had to do two things. He had to keep together 327 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,520 the coalition against Napoleon, which was always splitting off. 328 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:49,080 He had to keep it together with money, with persuasion and, 329 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:54,720 secondly, when we'd beaten Napoleon, he had to negotiate the peace. 330 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,000 He had the Russian troops all over Europe. 331 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,320 He had the Russian tsar, a very strange man, who was insisting 332 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,440 on keeping Poland, but also had all kinds of Christian ideas 333 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,400 about the shape of Europe. He had to deal with the French. 334 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,640 How do you keep France as an important European power, 335 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,360 while not allowing her to rampage again, as she had under Napoleon. 336 00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:20,520 'He had to deal with all kinds of very tricky situations and people.' 337 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,240 Like all good negotiators, Castlereagh had an eye for detail. 338 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,440 He was incredibly diligent and knew that being thoroughly on top 339 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,880 of his brief was the most vital weapon in the diplomatic armoury. 340 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,480 Austria's spies reported that he even prepared to the point of practising 341 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,760 the latest waltzes with a chair. 342 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,000 TRUMPETS SOUND 343 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,480 Today, the nearest one gets to the melee of 19th century Vienna, 344 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,840 is the annual Officer's Ball at the Hofburg Palace, 345 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,760 which hosted many of the Congress's grand soirees. 346 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,840 The Congress saw the restoration of the Bourbon Monarchy in France 347 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:25,000 and a scramble by the moustachioed scions of Europe's Ancien Regime 348 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,560 to get back what Napoleon had seized from them. 349 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,800 So, the ambitions of the Congress were intensely conservative, 350 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,640 but the way it set about achieving them certainly wasn't. 351 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,240 The unending round of balls and entertainments, 352 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,360 the bed-hopping, the pillow-talk, 353 00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:45,080 everybody rubbing shoulders with everybody else, 354 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,960 from the Russian tsar and Austrian emperor downwards, 355 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:53,160 this was a diplomatic revolution, it was the start of informal networking 356 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,720 which, despite all appearances, was absolutely avant garde. 357 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,400 Entertainment is important 358 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,760 provided it is focused. 359 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:15,600 I mean, I found one of the most satisfying ways of entertaining, 360 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,280 as an Ambassador, 361 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:22,920 was if the entertainment was designed to introduce A to B. 362 00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:25,200 When people have met 363 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,600 over a period of time, you know, they they find it easier to relax. 364 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,880 They find it easier to get to know each other 365 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,920 and that getting to know people is essential, 366 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,720 if you're going to reach agreements which are going to work. 367 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,280 If, to quote Churchill, "jaw jaw was to prevail over war war", 368 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,200 the diplomats would have to agree 369 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,680 to a generally acceptable balance between all the competing interests. 370 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:57,760 So, Castlereagh was faced with a task of fiendish intricacy. 371 00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:05,240 Of course, with such a vast throng and such a complex agenda, 372 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,120 it's normally mission impossible to get anything significant agreed. 373 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:12,480 Just look at the European Union, with its 27 member states. 374 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,880 When I was in Brussels, we couldn't even get the then ten members 375 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,160 to agree tariffs on the import of Romanian shoes. 376 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,360 Castlereagh's genius was to work the room tirelessly, 377 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:28,520 to get alongside everyone, to make even the smallest duke 378 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,040 feel important and then to cut most of them 379 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,680 out of the decision-taking. And that's multilateral diplomacy today. 380 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,040 If you think it is difficult to get consensus 381 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,400 out of the United Nations Security Council, 382 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,920 imagine how it would be if decisions had to be taken by 383 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,440 the almost-200 members of the United Nations General Assembly. 384 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,320 As Castlereagh himself put it, 385 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:58,080 "In such a large confederacy, an equality and community of council 386 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,560 "is utterly incompatible with the march of business." 387 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,800 So though there were numerous nationalities - 388 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,560 the Italians, Belgians, Poles - jostling for a place 389 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,160 at the negotiating table to have a say in their own futures, 390 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,600 Castlereagh realised that lasting peace depended, before all else, 391 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,040 on striking a deal between the Great Powers, 392 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,400 regardless of who else got trampled in the process. 393 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,080 Now, of course, there were many controversial aspects of this, 394 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,600 because the solution involved a strong active role for the 395 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:40,520 major powers in Europe and rather aggrandisement of the medium-sized 396 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,880 powers in order to create more of an equilibrium 397 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,560 and that meant the extinction of some small countries. 398 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,640 It showed in one of the quotations of the time, 399 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,080 "no special tenderness to nationality", 400 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,160 which meant that people were lumped together in countries 401 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,120 that they probably didn't really feel they belonged to. 402 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,560 Of course, in the long term, that would create difficulties. 403 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,320 This is often one of the conflicts in foreign policy. 404 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:10,120 Are you looking for an equilibrium that guarantees the peace 405 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,920 or are you trying to give people their rights to be citizens 406 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,040 of the countries they want to be in, to self-determination? 407 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,000 Those two things don't always sit together 408 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,760 and Castlereagh was very much on the side of a balance of power, 409 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,440 of law and security, rather than nationality. 410 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,680 Back from ball after ball, Castlereagh burnt the midnight oil, 411 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,280 plotting a course through the well-nigh intractable issues, 412 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:47,480 which kept the parties poised between peace and renewed conflict. 413 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,320 A barrier had to be built against a revanchist France, 414 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,840 which meant a strong Netherlands, whatever the Belgians said. 415 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,320 An expansionist Russia, threatening from the East, 416 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,400 had designs on Poland, where they had placed 200,000 troops. 417 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,680 Poor old Poles. 418 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,280 Meanwhile, how to create that vital counterweight in central Europe 419 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,960 against any Franco-Russian alliance? And then there was the dangerous 420 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,480 rivalry between Prussia and Austria. 421 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,680 Prussia wanted all Saxony, to compensate for losses in Poland. 422 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,320 Austria would then demand compensation in Italy, 423 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,880 not to mention a kick in the balls to the King of Saxony. 424 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,440 And this was not all. 425 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,440 There was a huge range of other issues to be grappled with, 426 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,880 such as ending the slave trade, 427 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,920 preserving the emancipation of the Jews, 428 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,400 regulating Europe's integral waterways. 429 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,160 If Castlereagh ever felt tired, 430 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,040 he was said to snatch an hour's rest by dozing in the bath. 431 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,240 Castlereagh was also expected to do his share of entertaining, 432 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,360 though his soirees were notoriously meagre. 433 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,960 It is still an essential part of diplomatic life 434 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,720 in the British Embassy in Vienna. 435 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,600 Tonight's host is the British Ambassador to Austria, Simon Smith, 436 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,920 and he's a defender of "The Ambassador's Reception" 437 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,080 against its critics. 438 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,120 Simon, Norman Tebbit once said, notoriously, that 439 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,920 the Ministry of Agriculture 440 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,320 existed to look after the interests of farmers 441 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,760 and the Foreign Office looked after the interests of foreigners. 442 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,040 I mean, what's the riposte to that? 443 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,480 I think the riposte is that if you don't understand 444 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,560 what makes foreigners work, if you don't understand what makes a country 445 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,440 that you're accredited to, what makes its government do what it does, 446 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,760 what makes its people feel the way they do, think the way they do, 447 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,240 then you're not going to be terribly good at getting them to agree to see 448 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,920 things your way, at getting them to line up with British objectives. 449 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,520 I think that one can make the mistake that, by understanding a country 450 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,840 that you are working in, you are supporting its position, 451 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,520 you are advocating that country's position. You would never go native? 452 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,040 Never, but you are more likely to get listened to 453 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,480 in advocating that position if you demonstrate an understanding 454 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,360 of where your partners across the table are coming from 455 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,600 and you won't get that without effort. 456 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,280 It is an occupational danger to go native and, every once in a while, 457 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,280 when I worked in the state department of the White House, 458 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,240 I would see people who began to see too much of their job 459 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,800 as explaining them to us, as opposed to us to them 460 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,760 and every once in a while I used to take them aside and say, 461 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,720 "Remember you work for the blue team. We are the blue team. 462 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,720 "It's good to have a take on them, but your bigger job, quite honestly, 463 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,760 "is to make us understandable to them and to make our case". 464 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,600 As the Congress moved towards its diplomatic climax, 465 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,440 the entertainments grew ever more elaborate. 466 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,200 In January 1815, a party came out to the palace here at Schonbrunn. 467 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,760 A grand procession of 32 sleighs was led by an orchestra. 468 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,800 At the same time, Castlereagh's fragile coalition of Great Powers 469 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,560 was inching towards a compromise and a deal that redrew the map of Europe. 470 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,040 The significance of the Congress of Vienna 471 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:49,840 is that it ushered in the longest period of peace without general war 472 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,000 in European history. 473 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,200 In the 100 years that followed it, there were only local conflicts 474 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,320 and never involving all the powers simultaneously. 475 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,840 That was a considerable achievement. 476 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,800 So, Castlereagh's contribution was seminal and his tenacity 477 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,840 made it possible. 478 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,480 Castlereagh understood that for Europe to remain at peace, 479 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,320 a balance of power was not enough and there needed to be 480 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,160 a system of regular meetings between nations to defuse problems 481 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,760 before they blew up and that is what the Congress of Vienna created. 482 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,920 It was, to use the jargon of today, 483 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,240 a system of multilateral collective security. 484 00:34:33,240 --> 00:34:37,840 Castlereagh certainly favoured strong diplomatic engagement 485 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,960 with the other powers of Europe, wanted a concert of Europe. 486 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,920 They really saw the guarantee of the settlement 487 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,960 that he and his colleagues arrived at, 488 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,120 at being the major European powers working together 489 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,960 and being prepared to actively defend the settlement. 490 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,040 Militarily defend, if necessary, the settlement that they had arrived at. 491 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,360 So, yes, that is strong, active engagement in Europe 492 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,440 and I don't think any British statesmen have ever been in favour 493 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,280 of anything else other than strong active engagement in Europe. 494 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,000 The debate now is whether strong active engagement 495 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,440 means automatically signing up to anything that is ever proposed 496 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,080 in the rest of Europe or be prepared to give a lead ourselves. 497 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,040 Castlereagh was, of course, himself no visionary idealist. 498 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,800 In fact, he refused to sign up to the Tsar's grander vision, 499 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,800 the Holy Alliance, of a united Europe of shared Christian values. 500 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,360 "Sublime mysticism and nonsense", he called it. 501 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,280 For Castlereagh, that was taking a shared European project too far. 502 00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:52,160 In our more liberal age, the Congress of Vienna has a terrible reputation 503 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,920 for the way the Great Powers 504 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,160 rode roughshod on the smaller nationalities. 505 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:03,600 After the First World War, Woodrow Wilson hoped that 506 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,400 "no odour of Vienna would influence the peace settlement". 507 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,360 And David Miliband, not so long ago, declared that, 508 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,800 "Europe cannot have its destiny settled 509 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,960 "on the basis of the Congress of Vienna". 510 00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:27,400 In his own time, 511 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,040 poor old Castlereagh's reputation also suffered. 512 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,320 His achievements were taken for granted 513 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,640 and yet he was blamed for failing to achieve the impossible - democracy, 514 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,960 self-determination for small nations and universal happiness! 515 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,920 He became the whipping boy for England's liberal set. 516 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,160 And through it all, he never stopped working. 517 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,880 In August 1822, he confessed, 518 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,560 "I am quite worn out. This is more than I can bear". 519 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,800 Four days later, he killed himself. 520 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,840 When the great statesman was brought here, 521 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,760 to Westminster Abbey, to be buried, 522 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,960 the hearse had to make its way through a mob of jeering protesters. 523 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,160 And could poor Castlereagh rest in peace? Not a bit of it. 524 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,880 Byron wrote this epitaph, 525 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,800 "Posterity will ne'er survey A nobler grave than this. 526 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,720 "Here lie the bones of Castlereagh. 527 00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:42,840 "Stop traveller...and piss!" 528 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,360 Diplomacy is sometimes a thankless task. 529 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:11,480 It was April 2002 and Tony Blair and his team, including me, 530 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,720 had been invited to President Bush's Texas ranch, 531 00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:17,760 for what the press were calling "a Council of War". 532 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,160 This was a crucial moment. 533 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,920 The big question was, "Would Blair put British 534 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,280 security on the line and sign on for regime change in Baghdad?" 535 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,600 On arrival, Blair was whisked off for a tete-a-tete with the President. 536 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,600 Indeed, for most of the weekend he was alone - no advisors, 537 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,440 nobody to record what was agreed. A diplomat's nightmare. 538 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,800 Meanwhile, the rest of us - Condi Rice, Alastair Campbell 539 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,840 and so on - went off to a nearby Tex-Mex restaurant for dinner. 540 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:50,640 The President's political guru, Karl Rove, flew in his bootmaker, 541 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:56,360 who measured me up for these superb specimens, suitably emblazoned 542 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,360 and adding at least two inches to your height. 543 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,880 I never did find out exactly what Blair committed to that weekend. 544 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,880 Afterwards, the Americans believed that he was on board for whatever 545 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,760 they decided to do in Iraq. 546 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,400 It may have been a case of good personal relations 547 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,080 leading to a hug too close. 548 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,760 But, in modern times, there's no doubt that Britain's security 549 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:27,120 has sometimes depended on how well the two at the top really get on. 550 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,200 In 1962, just before Christmas, two aircraft carrying 551 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,320 two national leaders flew towards the same destination. 552 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,640 They were heading for a show-down that would determine 553 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:54,320 Britain's international role, in particular, whether Britain could 554 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,520 continue to have a seat at the top table as a nuclear power. 555 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,960 Elderly Prime Minister, Harold Macmillan, 556 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,200 spent much of the flight 557 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,600 reading Gibbon's Decline And Fall Of The Roman Empire. 558 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,760 History does not relate whether this was for amusement or for instruction, 559 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,560 but the harsh truth was that the British Empire too 560 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,080 was disintegrating. India had gone, colonies were breaking away 561 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,320 and Britain's recent bitter humiliation at Suez 562 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,040 had underlined our diminished, vulnerable position. 563 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,640 Macmillan would be negotiating from weakness, 564 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,920 a supreme test for diplomacy. 565 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,240 Much more comfortable was the popular young president 566 00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:38,160 sitting in the other aircraft. 567 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,440 Something to drink, Sir? 568 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,640 Yeah, a Bloody Mary, please. 569 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:49,280 John F Kennedy had every reason to feel pretty sure of himself. 570 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,800 He was, after all, president of the most powerful nation 571 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,600 that the world had ever seen. 572 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,960 As Castlereagh and his Victorian successors had discovered, 573 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,080 this makes getting your way in the world a darn sight easier. 574 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,040 Macmillan staked his foreign policy on two things - 575 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,760 a close relationship with America 576 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,120 and on Britain's possessing an independent nuclear deterrent. 577 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:16,680 Now both were at risk. 578 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,160 America was threatening to go back on its offer 579 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,040 to sell Britain nuclear missiles. 580 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,880 So the stakes could not have been higher, 581 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,080 but riding on Air Force One with the President 582 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,360 was Macmillan's secret weapon, 583 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,440 a Brit with a very special relationship. 584 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:39,400 Her Britannic Majesty's Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary 585 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,520 to the United States of America. 586 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:56,440 David Ormsby-Gore arrived in Washington in 1961. 587 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,000 He was considered a brilliant appointment 588 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,120 because of his brilliant contacts. 589 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,680 Macmillan's nephew by marriage and an old family friend of the Kennedys. 590 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:13,280 When I got the same job 36 years later, Number 10 told me to 591 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,640 "get up the arse of the White House and stay there". 592 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,760 Not very elegantly put, but I understood the point. 593 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,720 In diplomacy, access is everything, 594 00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:27,000 and David Ormsby-Gore had access to the President 595 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,680 for which ambassadors would sell their grandmothers. 596 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:40,320 Ormsby-Gore was practically a family member of the Kennedys. 597 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,600 I was a consultant to the Kennedy administration 598 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,640 and he was infinitely closer to the Kennedys than I was 599 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:52,480 even though I was technically working in the White House. 600 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,560 Being his Private Secretary gave me an extraordinary 601 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,400 and a very exciting insight into what life was like 602 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,520 in what was called Camelot. 603 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,360 I mean, these glamorous characters 604 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,120 who piled into the British Ambassador's Residence, 605 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,600 including the President himself. 606 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,880 He impressed me immediately 607 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:28,720 as a very intelligent, likeable man who shared the same ideals 608 00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:33,600 and objectives that Kennedy and I already shared. 609 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,400 So here we are in the British Embassy Residence, 610 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,640 3,100 Massachusetts Avenue. 611 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,600 This is where all the guests would come 612 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,320 when attending receptions or lunches or dinner. 613 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:04,080 In our time we reckoned we had about 12,000 of them every year. 614 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,440 You'd be greeted by the ambassador and his wife 615 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,920 somewhere round about there. 616 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,800 We'd stand here saying, "Good evening, how are you? 617 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,640 "Welcome to the British Embassy. This is my wife, Catherine." 618 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,160 After you've done that about 200 times your brain started to go, 619 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:23,480 and once I called my wife by the name of my ex-mother-in-law, 620 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,840 but you shake a lot of hands, you lose your sanity after a while. 621 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:32,880 This is the great ballroom. This is how you put networks 622 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,400 of high level contacts together, networks of influence. 623 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:42,280 You brought them into the house and gave them a good time. 624 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,920 That's new... That picture of the queen. 625 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,440 So you go down here towards the drawing room, 626 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,080 this is a very good place in which to just have a handful 627 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:58,120 of influential American friends. You could sit around in a circle here 628 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,760 and have a really good political discussion. 629 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,520 With his contacts both sides of the Atlantic, 630 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,280 Ormsby-Gore was the perfect middle man to oil the relationship 631 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,680 between President and Prime Minister. 632 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:23,240 A vital role, because by the end of 1962 Anglo-American relations 633 00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:25,520 were strained almost to breaking point. 634 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,640 Early in December, former Secretary of State Dean Acheson 635 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,320 made his notorious speech declaring that Britain had 636 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,120 "lost an empire and not yet found a role". 637 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,840 Britain, I think, was struggling to find a role and hadn't at that point 638 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:48,280 decided whether to join the EEC, as it then was. 639 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,160 It had a difficult relationship with the United States 640 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,120 over the Suez crisis where Britain and France 641 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,560 had really been abandoned, as they might have seen it, 642 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,120 by the United States. Had not been supported by the United States. 643 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:05,200 Acheson's wild words have caused an international furore. 644 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:11,440 About the Acheson thing, Jack, it's Harold here, 645 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,240 Harold Macmillan. M-A-C... 646 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,440 I'm calling from London. 647 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,360 Now, look here, this thing doesn't represent the views 648 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,360 of your government, does it? 649 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,520 Oh! 650 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,080 Oh, goodbye, then. 651 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,160 Acheson's scorn exacerbated a row already brewing 652 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,600 between Britain and America over their co-operation 653 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,520 on a missile called Skybolt. 654 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:49,040 This was Britain's main hope for an independent nuclear future. 655 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,400 Ormsby-Gore was summoned to a meeting 656 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,000 with the Secretary for Defence, Robert McNamara. 657 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,000 There he heard that, while no final decision had been taken, 658 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,640 the Americans were seriously considering Skybolt's cancellation. 659 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:09,600 The missile was failing tests and proving exorbitantly expensive. 660 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,440 For any ambassador, news like this is red alert. 661 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,680 It demands an urgent report to London. 662 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,480 That evening, Ormsby-Gore's reporting telegram was sent off, 663 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,400 classified "emergency" and "top secret". 664 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,960 "I said I was sure he would realise that a decision to abandon 665 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,480 "the Skybolt programme would be political dynamite 666 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,600 "so far as the United Kingdom was concerned". 667 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,960 Harold Macmillan was furious. 668 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,920 He instructed the ambassador to make sure the President 669 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:45,920 didn't decide anything until the two sides had consulted. 670 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,000 Macmillan asked Ormsby-Gore whether he should telephone Kennedy. 671 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,880 Technology had, of course, moved on since Killigrew or Castlereagh 672 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,360 and it wouldn't be long before hotlines connected 673 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,560 the world's most powerful leaders. 674 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,040 But there are dangers to bypassing the local ambassador, 675 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,680 as Ormsby-Gore knew well. 676 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:07,480 A golden rule of diplomacy, that has remained unchanged by technology, 677 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:12,160 is to get your timing right when you deploy your biggest gun. 678 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:17,600 Ormsby-Gore advised Macmillan to hold off, only a face-to-face meeting 679 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,760 with Kennedy stood any chance of success. 680 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:25,520 It's very often thought that by telephoning your opposite number 681 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:26,720 every month or so 682 00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:29,520 a head of Government can do the job perfectly well 683 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,840 that these expensive Ambassadors can't, don't need to do. 684 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:37,080 The fact is that an ambassador is a continuity man 685 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,280 in constant contact with the locals 686 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,960 and governments have found they can't do business 687 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,680 without some intermediary. 688 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,360 Diplomats tend to be professional, whereas much diplomacy these days 689 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,720 is conducted by politicians who are definitely not professional. 690 00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:59,520 So a good diplomat spends a lot of time clearing up the mess, 691 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,760 trying to repair things politicians have either broken, 692 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:07,560 or trying to put into some usable form the very broad conclusions 693 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:12,280 which politicians have reached. It's a bit of a thankless task. 694 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,520 These days it's probably much more fun, 695 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,800 much more professionally interesting 696 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,800 in out-of-the-way countries where politicians are less tempted to go. 697 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,040 So it was that in late December, Prime Minister and President 698 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:31,160 set out for the Bahamas for the showdown over Skybolt. 699 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,880 It was highly unusual for a foreign ambassador 700 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,080 to travel on Air Force One, 701 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,120 but Ormsby-Gore's special relationship got him a ride 702 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,720 and half an hour's tete-a-tete with the President. 703 00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:48,960 If you ditch Skybolt the consequences for our relations, 704 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,160 and the Prime Minister personally, will be very severe. 705 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:56,480 He would be desperately exposed and the Government might fall. 706 00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,160 I fear also that if the British public think that they have been 707 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,440 let down by the United States, 708 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:06,520 a storm of anti-Americanism will sweep the country. 709 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,840 As I know myself, the Americans 710 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,440 are not overly sensitive to the domestic politics of others, 711 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,680 but, thanks to Ormsby-Gore's intervention, perhaps Kennedy 712 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,440 had begun to be persuaded that it was not in America's interest 713 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,200 to leave Macmillan high and dry 714 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:27,080 and provoke a political crisis in Britain. 715 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,760 Ambassador and President hammered out a deal. 716 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,720 The Americans would not themselves procure Skybolt, but would offer 717 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:38,680 to split its development costs 50-50 with the Brits. 718 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,520 Would this generous gesture of good faith be 719 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:49,080 enough to placate the Prime Minister and avoid a huge row in the Bahamas? 720 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,120 Mr Macmillan flew into the Bahamas late on Monday night 721 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,360 for what many of them were calling 722 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,360 the worst moment in Anglo-American relations since Suez. 723 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,160 # Welcome, welcome 724 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,520 # Macmillan and Kennedy... # 725 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,280 Then in the warm sunshine of this British island colony, 726 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,800 full airport ceremonial for the arrival of President Kennedy. 727 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,920 # The whole world is makin' a fuss 728 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,520 # About Skybolt you came up to discuss 729 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,240 # But you can be sure definitely 730 00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:35,760 # We have the maximum security 731 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,720 # We don't mind Russia saying this or that 732 00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:41,880 # Three cheers for the Stars and Stripes and the Union Jack 733 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,560 # Yes, I said welcome, welcome 734 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,680 # Your visit to Nassau will go down in history... # 735 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,440 Ormsby-Gore had done all he could. 736 00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:01,200 It was time to hand the diplomatic baton to the Prime Minister. 737 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,360 Ormsby-Gore briefed the Prime Minister on the 50-50 deal 738 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:08,840 that Kennedy was offering. 739 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,680 The Ambassador's groundwork mollified Macmillan, 740 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,520 but he'd already made up his mind. 741 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,080 If Skybolt wasn't good enough for the Americans, 742 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,080 it wasn't good enough for the British. 743 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,920 The talks were to take place at a secluded luxury villa, Bali Hai, 744 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,200 lent to Macmillan for the occasion. 745 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:34,680 This is the moment of truth, straight talking, statesman to statesman. 746 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,840 It's where personal chemistry can really make the difference 747 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,640 and luckily, Macmillan and Kennedy got on. 748 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:48,520 What made Macmillan so captivating for Kennedy 749 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:53,080 was that Kennedy was a bit of a romantic 750 00:52:53,080 --> 00:53:00,360 and Macmillan seemed to him like a breath from Edwardian England, 751 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:06,080 where the great and the good were comfortable with the use of power 752 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,160 but weren't vulgarised by it. 753 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:14,720 Macmillan was able to play act the role of the wise Greek 754 00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:17,800 to the sturdy young Roman Emperor. 755 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,400 Face-to-face personal chemistry is very important. 756 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,920 Perhaps more important now because of the number of occasions in which 757 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,840 they are actually face to face. 758 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:31,960 The fact that Macmillan and Kennedy were on those terms. 759 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,520 The fact that Margaret Thatcher was on bad terms with Helmut Kohl, 760 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:36,880 the German Chancellor. 761 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,520 They do make a difference. You must try and prevent them 762 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,960 so dominating the scene that you forget the realities. 763 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,400 I think some of the rhetoric about our relationship with America 764 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,440 does get out of control 765 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,240 and it arouses expectations which won't ever be fulfilled. 766 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,920 When the formal talks began, 767 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,160 Macmillan made the speech of his life. 768 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,120 He talked emotionally about British sacrifice in the wars, 769 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,560 he charted the historic friendship between America and Britain 770 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:13,760 and waxed lyrical about his own personal friendship with Kennedy 771 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:18,400 and he made it clear that all this was at risk if America attempted 772 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,080 to cut Britain out of the nuclear club. 773 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,960 What Macmillan now wanted was the new American weapon, that Britain had 774 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:33,720 no previous stake in, the submarine launched missile, Polaris. 775 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,800 Proven more reliable and cost effective than Skybolt, Polaris, 776 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,920 and only Polaris, he argued, 777 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,880 would keep the Anglo-American relationship alive. 778 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,600 To get his way, Macmillan pulled out all the diplomatic stops. 779 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,920 Alongside his emotional appeal, he kept everyone on edge 780 00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,120 by repeatedly adjourning the discussions to consult 781 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,880 Ormsby-Gore and the team, 782 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:06,080 insisting that no agreement was better than a bad compromise. 783 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:10,320 It was a masterpiece of play acting and of diplomatic technique. 784 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,400 And it worked. 785 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,320 Against all the British expectations, and against the advice 786 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:24,960 of his own State Department, Kennedy agreed to let Britain have Polaris. 787 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,960 Kennedy would not have done that for the French, 788 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,920 he would not have done that for the Germans, the Italians, 789 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,920 not even for Israel which has 790 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:43,640 its own unique qualities of relationship. 791 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,800 So the fact that he did it for England - 792 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:53,680 I'd rather say he did it for Macmillan - 793 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,840 shows that the relationship was indeed special. 794 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,560 Britain got a bargain, 795 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,880 a better missile than Skybolt, without having to pay 796 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,640 any of the initial research and development costs. 797 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,640 This final agreement was reached by some masterly ambiguity 798 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,760 which blurred the lines between independence and interdependence. 799 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,640 Polaris would be under NATO except where Her Majesty's Government 800 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:31,600 may decide that the supreme national interests were at stake, 801 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,280 which is, of course, they only time you would need a nuclear weapon. 802 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,400 What was agreed here at Bali Hai 803 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,760 remains the basis of our security policy to this day and beyond. 804 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,320 In the 1980s, we acquired Trident, the successor to Polaris, 805 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,680 on similar terms and we're still committed 806 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:55,160 to Britain's remaining nuclear well into the 2040s. 807 00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,400 At the end of the day, our security is in our own hands. 808 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,040 Of course we have the alliance with the United States but really, 809 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:08,920 even in the best circumstances, you should be able to defend yourself. 810 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,840 We had the nuclear technology, we were one of the first to acquire it. 811 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,120 I think our giving it up would've been a sign of resigning 812 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,080 from a leading role in the world. 813 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,040 It is the ultimate deterrent. 814 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:25,560 The security of Britain is the fundamental aim of British policy. 815 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,600 The threat to security comes in all shapes and sizes. 816 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,160 Not long ago it was the Soviet Union 817 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:35,440 and now you could argue that it's terrorism. In a few years' time, 818 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,800 it may be the threat from the deteriorating planet - 819 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:43,680 i.e. the threat will change, but, all the time, 820 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:48,080 your fundamental objective is the security. 821 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,440 The safety of these islands and the people who live in them. 822 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,680 Ormsby-Gore and Macmillan 823 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,440 achieved a remarkable victory for British diplomacy. 824 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,520 It cemented our position in the first rank of great powers, 825 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,920 it improved the relationship with the United States of America 826 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:17,160 and, above all, it protected our security in a nuclear world. 827 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,040 You might not have heard of Killigrew, Castlereagh or Ormsby-Gore 828 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,120 but the lesson of history is clear. 829 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:28,560 True national security is not possible without effective diplomacy. 830 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:47,920 In the next programme... 831 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,200 I'll explore the history of our troubled diplomatic relationship 832 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:56,720 with China, beset by rows over opium, protocol and Hong Kong, 833 00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,440 and how it has so often come down to money. 834 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,080 Moolah. 835 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,920 Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd 836 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,960 E-mail subtitling@bbc.co.uk