1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Exactly 100 years ago, an investigation began that led to changes 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:07,500 that still affect us today. 3 00:00:07,500 --> 00:00:13,440 An investigation into the lives of people trapped in poverty, without work. 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:19,800 Reading what my ancestors had done, and the struggle in that time, 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,680 was just something that, er... 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,040 ..was amazing, really. 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,200 A century later, unemployment is still with us. 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,640 ..When do we want it? Now! 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,880 People are still living on the margins. 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:42,800 It's Friday. It's been raining for the third night on the trot. 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,800 We have a welfare state our great-grandparents would have dreamed of. 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,280 Has that brought its own problems? 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,360 You get that used to the safety net, you're scared to leave it. 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,800 In this series, we're going to look at how much has really changed 15 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,280 and how we got to where we are today. 16 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,720 We dig deep into the history of the British family. 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:11,240 The archeology that you're interested in is further out here. 18 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:18,840 This is the story of all our working lives over the last 100 years. 19 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:23,200 It's a journey of hope... That's a eureka moment. 20 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,200 ..and conflict. 21 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,240 ANGRY SHOUTING 22 00:01:29,320 --> 00:01:33,560 And, for one family, an amazing detective story 23 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,040 that leads from absolute poverty to undreamed of success. 24 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,800 Our story starts exactly 100 years ago 25 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,840 in the city of York during the summer of 1910. 26 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,880 That year, like today, Britain was emerging from recession. 27 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,800 Back then, it left many families on the edge of destitution. 28 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,440 But a century ago, something happened here that was unique. 29 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,440 These families were asked to describe their lives. 30 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,320 It was research that gave a voice to the voiceless. 31 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,600 MAN: Up at five. Walked round and round the town until 12. 32 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,920 Nothing doing anywhere so I was fairly sick of walking about. 33 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:39,400 No breakfast, no tea and no supper. Went to bed around 7.30. 34 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:44,640 It brings home to you the starvation level existence, 35 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:47,840 the hand-to-mouth level existence. 36 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:52,120 Waking up every morning and not knowing by that evening 37 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,200 whether they had enough to eat 38 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,640 to keep them going the next day. 39 00:02:56,640 --> 00:03:00,280 And it's happening in your home city. It's astonishing. 40 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,280 This was a ground-breaking study, and the man behind it 41 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,400 was one of the richest and most powerful in the city. 42 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,800 Seebohm Rowntree was the third generation of the chocolate dynasty. 43 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,560 He was wealthy and successful, but what really drove him 44 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,760 was a passion to improve the life of the common man. 45 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,920 You cannot live in a town like York, 46 00:03:26,920 --> 00:03:30,320 with its poverty, its intemperance, its vice, 47 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:37,080 without a sense of responsibility being, from time to time, borne in upon you. 48 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:41,120 What part are YOU going to play as a citizen? 49 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,960 In 1900, Rowntree had written an investigation into poverty in York. 50 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,880 He said more than a quarter of the people 51 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,480 lived in unacceptable conditions. 52 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,080 That this was in a wealthy city like York 53 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,400 made its revelations particularly shocking. 54 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,680 He was shining a very bright light on something that was hidden. 55 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:11,000 Most people didn't know that people were living in those conditions. 56 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:16,400 He drew attention of the highest people in the land. That was a powerful message. 57 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,400 The book was read widely 58 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,440 and influenced the creation of the welfare state. 59 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,240 Winston Churchill, already an influential figure, 60 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,360 said Rowntree's findings made his hair stand on end. 61 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,800 "I see little glory," he added, 62 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:43,880 "in an empire which can rule the waves but is unable to flush its sewers." 63 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,200 In 1910, Seebohm Rowntree went further. 64 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,480 His study on unemployment would depend on first-hand accounts. 65 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,280 The poor would speak for themselves. 66 00:04:58,280 --> 00:05:04,120 Rowntree wanted to know why people were out of work and how they were surviving. 67 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,880 So, that summer, the work began. 68 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:22,680 This is the Yorkshire Evening Press from Tuesday June 7 1910. 69 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,600 This is the local paper. 70 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,160 And the news on that day? 71 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,360 There was an earthquake Italy and an uprising in Mexico. 72 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,600 Local news was a bit quiet. 73 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,760 There was a car crash on the Harrogate road. 74 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:43,000 But this was a big day for York because June 7 1910 75 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,560 is when Rowntree started his survey. 76 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,760 The first thing Rowntree needed to know 77 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,160 was who was working and who wasn't. 78 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,480 He dispatched a team of 60 researchers to knock on the door 79 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,840 of every working-class home in York. 80 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:07,600 Each person without work was interviewed. 81 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,480 Some were selected for more detailed research - 82 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:16,200 what they were doing to find work, how they lived, even what they ate. 83 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,960 All part of an attempt to tell the human story behind the numbers. 84 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:26,240 This room was Seebohm Rowntree's office, 85 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,400 where he coordinated the research from. 86 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,400 It looks over the garden. 87 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,080 You can imagine it 100 years ago - 88 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,440 the walls covered in maps of York of where researchers had been. 89 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:44,280 Researchers coming back with more information that they'd gathered. 90 00:06:44,280 --> 00:06:48,200 It's the detail and the data that marks this book out. 91 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,240 This table is a list of people who've lost their jobs 92 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,680 and the reasons they're out of work. 93 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,200 We have a "confectioner's labourer" 94 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,560 who would have worked in the chocolate industry, 95 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,200 described as "a fairly good worker 96 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,440 "but a heavy drinker". 97 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,720 His current occupation is a hawker. He sells things on the street. 98 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,360 Everyone thinks of York as an attractive, 99 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,000 well-preserved middle-class medieval city. 100 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,760 He opens a window on the underbelly of the city 101 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:24,400 and shows that York is like a lot of the other industrial cities. 102 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:29,640 It's a microcosm of what's going on with the unemployed in Edwardian England. 103 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:36,080 When the research was finished, Rowntree said he's uncovered a national disgrace. 104 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,920 The power is in the detail. 105 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:43,800 It is a unique glimpse into our history. 106 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,600 And one family stand out from the report. 107 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,760 They were the Nevinsons. 108 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,000 They lived in a small house on the outskirts of York. 109 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:01,320 Mr Nevinson hadn't worked regularly for years and the family were desperate. 110 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:06,000 We know what their life was like because Mr Nevinson kept a diary. 111 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,440 This is how he describes looking for work in July 1910. 112 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,520 Sunday 10th July. 113 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:18,400 Up at 4am and went round town to see if I could find anything that had been lost. 114 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,840 Couldn't see anything so I came home at 7am. 115 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,800 Had breakfast consisting of jam and bread. 116 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,320 Went to bed until 1pm. 117 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,360 Rowntree's background was in science. 118 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,160 He was interested in the link between diet and health. 119 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,680 The Nevinsons kept a diary of what they ate. 120 00:08:37,680 --> 00:08:42,280 Monday, breakfast - tea, bread and margarine. 121 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,040 Dinner - tea, bread and margarine. 122 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:49,040 Tuesday, breakfast - tea, bread and jam. 123 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,480 Dinner - tea, three stale buns. 124 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,920 Sunday, breakfast - tea, kippers, bread. 125 00:08:54,920 --> 00:09:00,480 Dinner, three pennyworth of meat pieces boiled with potatoes. 126 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,800 Tea - bread and margarine, onions. 127 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:08,120 The family were eating a third of the calories they needed. 128 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,000 The diary also showed that they were in a poverty trap. 129 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,480 A life without work meant a life with debt. 130 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,960 They are in arrears of rent and have a heavy bill at the corner shop. 131 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:29,080 Until that is paid off, the family will continue to live almost entirely on bread and margarine. 132 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,600 When I read Mr Nevinson's story, I felt a link with him. 133 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,680 I'm from Yorkshire. 134 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:42,200 I know the places that he was going to to look for work and the distances that he was covering. 135 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:47,640 I got a real sense of just how desperate he was to find a job. 136 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,040 The testimony of the neighbourhood 137 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:56,200 is that the Nevinsons are a sober, decent, well-living family, 138 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,040 always eager for and willing to do any kind of work, 139 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,080 however poorly paid. 140 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,560 Mrs Nevinson feels the heat, being tall and very stout, 141 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:12,400 with a face radiating good nature and even hope. 142 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:17,520 How she achieves her expression or her weight is a mystery. 143 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,920 For the wolf which many contrive to keep outside the door 144 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:26,920 crosses the threshold of the Nevinsons' pretty continually. 145 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,960 This is absolutely shocking, 146 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,080 just how precarious people's lives were. 147 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:38,520 You don't get any understanding unless you "hear" it in the voices of the people themselves. 148 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:44,160 "Nothing is against the Nevinsons but bad luck," say the neighbours. 149 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:49,080 They have had a very large family but, as Mrs Nevinson remarked, 150 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,880 "The undertaker has buried them a lot." 151 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:57,440 Mrs Nevinson had an astonishing 22 children, 152 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,080 but only five survived infancy. 153 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:10,720 The diary is a glimpse of what it was like to fight for survival. 154 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:15,440 The parish had a duty to provide food for the children of the poor, 155 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:20,160 but there were no benefits as we think of them today. 156 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,840 If the conditions we found in York 157 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,920 approximate even roughly to those in other towns up and down the country, 158 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,600 they point to a social evil, appalling in its magnitude. 159 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:39,000 It is a terrible blot on the face of the richest country in the world. 160 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,160 The Nevinsons' and Rowntree's work 161 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,480 changed the way we think about unemployment and poverty. 162 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:57,800 Benefits that we all enjoy can be traced back to what he found on these streets 100 years ago. 163 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:04,280 We're going to attempt something that's never been tried before - to track down this crucial family. 164 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:10,320 Where are the descendants of the Nevinsons now? What happened to them? 165 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:15,000 If we find them, what will that tell us about all of our families, 166 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,400 about the journey of ordinary working people over a century? 167 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,520 We are setting ourselves an enormous task. 168 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,680 All we know about the Nevinsons is their name 169 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:30,240 and the few details in that diary. 170 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,840 We'll need more than that, so where do we begin? 171 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:39,160 To start with, we target the archives, the parish and city records of 1910. 172 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,480 We head to the Borthwick Institute in York, 173 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,680 where some local records of 100 years ago are kept. 174 00:12:46,680 --> 00:12:51,280 As soon as we start, the scale of the challenge becomes apparent. 175 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,240 These are the parish records 176 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:59,240 from about the time that the diaries were produced. 177 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:04,760 They're for the areas of Layerthorpe and Hungate, the poor areas of York, 178 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,440 and are likely to be where our families lived. 179 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:13,640 So far, we've had no breakthrough, despite all our searches. 180 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,000 We can't find the Nevinsons. 181 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:23,680 It's hard work. Census returns, electoral rolls, housing surveys all draw blank. 182 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:28,560 So we broaden our search and spend days scouring files 183 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:32,800 not only in York, but at the Public Record Office in London. 184 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,840 Still we have no success. 185 00:13:41,560 --> 00:13:44,400 Time to call in the experts. 186 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,280 York's Family History Society are archive detectives 187 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:53,320 who specialise in finding lost branches of a family tree. 188 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:57,400 Maybe they can spot clues that we are missing. 189 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,480 You know about our search, but we've not had much success. 190 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:06,960 It's surprising given that, in the book, there's quite a lot of detail. 191 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:13,240 Pam and David have an impressive track record at forensically searching records. 192 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:18,600 Maybe they can help find this elusive family from a century ago. 193 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,480 There's quite a clear description of where they lived. 194 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:27,920 "The Nevinsons live in a very small four-roomed house in a small street. 195 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:35,040 "Fortunately, it's situated on the outskirts of the city, on pretty high ground." 196 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:39,640 You get a real feel for where they are. Has this been a help? No. 197 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,040 Good! It seems like there was a lot in there! 198 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,880 There is an awful lot in there. 199 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:51,440 But to find a very small four-roomed house in a small street 200 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:56,160 on the outskirts of the city, I have no idea where we could start. 201 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,600 Wasn't Nevinson a pretty big clue? 202 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,440 What have you done to track down the Nevinson name? 203 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:08,000 On the 1911 census I found a Nevison, not Nevinson. There's no Nevinson. 204 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,720 So it's difficult, this research, 205 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:16,000 even though it does give a lot of information in the survey. 206 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:21,280 It's very little when it comes down to it. David, where do we go now? 207 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,920 Well, I think that we're coming to the conclusion 208 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:29,000 that the names for not only the Nevinsons, 209 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,840 but for all the families, are pseudonyms. 210 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,120 If we work on that assumption, 211 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,760 then it's going to be a bit of a long job! 212 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,640 If the names have been changed, 213 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:50,440 finding the Nevinsons is going to be really hard. 214 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,320 But there's one last hope - York's cemetery. 215 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,640 Wherever you lived in York, 216 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,240 there was only one place you went to when you died. 217 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,400 There are 123,000 people buried here. 218 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:08,200 Historians have spent 16 years entering the names into a database. 219 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,760 Maybe this is our final chance. 220 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:17,720 We can look in our database for anybody of that name. Nevinson. 221 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,680 PAM: Ah! Nobody. 222 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,800 What do you think, Hugh? 223 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:30,880 It's a blow that we haven't got Mr Nevinson in your system, therefore in that cemetery. 224 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:35,640 Is it the end of the line? It's the end of the line for that surname. 225 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:41,120 That lends weight to the fact that these are pseudonyms. 226 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:46,600 We've got to look for other clues that might lead us to the family. 227 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,480 What do you think, David? Well, there's always hope. 228 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,920 That's the spirit! We aren't going to give up just yet. 229 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:08,120 We can only conclude their names were changed, 230 00:17:08,120 --> 00:17:12,000 probably to protect the family's privacy. 231 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,960 But what about Rowntree's original research notes? 232 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:23,360 It turns out we can't even go back to them. 233 00:17:23,360 --> 00:17:29,160 We discover they were burned when he moved from York in the 1930s. 234 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,520 So if Mr Nevinson isn't really called Mr Nevinson 235 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:40,920 and the paperwork is all gone, how on earth are we to track him down? 236 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,960 That book and those diaries are full of clues. 237 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:49,760 There must be something we've missed. 238 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,480 What about the man behind all this research? 239 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:59,880 Perhaps the key to solving our mystery is somewhere in the life of Seebohm Rowntree. 240 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,680 Rowntree's was a company with its history and its success 241 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,720 rooted in York. 242 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,200 We're in the heart of the city. 243 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:22,440 One of York's main shopping streets is across the end here. 244 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,080 We're here because of this building. 245 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,960 From inside here sprang a British institution. 246 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,400 This place now might be a pizza restaurant 247 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,480 but back in 1850, this was Joseph Rowntree's shop. 248 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:41,360 He was a grocer and he imported tea and he'd just started selling cocoa. 249 00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:45,800 He had a number of apprentices. Let me introduce you to three. 250 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,480 George Cadbury, Lewis Fry and his son, Joseph Rowntree. 251 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:55,560 Three big names from British chocolate worked here as young men. 252 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,440 An industry started in this shop. 253 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:03,680 And that industry was thriving by the time Seebohm came along. 254 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:08,160 He was the son of Joseph Rowntree, the young apprentice. 255 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,200 The family were Quakers. 256 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:14,160 Their faith deeply influenced how the company was run, 257 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,120 and every aspect of their lives. 258 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:21,000 Seebohm went to Bootham, the Quaker school in York. 259 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,440 This is the area he would recognise. 260 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:29,520 What he learned here influenced everything he did later in life. 261 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:34,160 Help me with this idea of what it is to be a Quaker, the faith. 262 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,240 What does that mean? 263 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:42,440 It's a branch of Christianity that believes in the simple form of faith 264 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,560 and the idea that there is that of God in every person. 265 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:51,160 That would have underpinned the way that the school was operated, 266 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,280 its plainness in speech and language, 267 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:58,560 and plainness in the way that everyday life was conducted. 268 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,520 From school, it was into the family firm. 269 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,120 When his father retired, he became chairman. 270 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:08,880 Rowntree's was one of the biggest factories in the city, 271 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,200 employing more than 10,000 people. 272 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,520 Seebohm Rowntree himself is emerging from the shadows. 273 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:20,760 He was not originally intended to take over the family firm. 274 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,360 His elder brother died and Seebohm stepped in. 275 00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:28,120 His interest was social policy and social affairs. 276 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:36,320 It was part of Rowntree's Quaker background to present what he found without judgment. 277 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,920 He was meticulous in his attention to detail. 278 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,440 He pushed his researchers to be accurate 279 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,080 in reporting what they observed. 280 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,760 The book is packed full of raw data about York's unemployed 281 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:56,240 and it gives precise information, not only about Mr Nevinson 282 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,320 but about his family as well. 283 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,680 Maybe there's something there. 284 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,760 This is how they are described. 285 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,800 One of the children is a delicate girl of 20, 286 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,680 who has worked in various factories, but always left through ill health. 287 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,560 She sits by the fire, inactive, while her mother bustles to and fro. 288 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,980 She looks more like death than life, 289 00:21:19,980 --> 00:21:27,760 yet she is to be married in a few weeks to a man whose employment is quite fitful and precarious. 290 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:32,040 The other is a lad of 12, undersized but fairly healthy. 291 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,360 Another child, the youngest, is at the Blind School 292 00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:38,760 but comes home for holidays. 293 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,360 A daughter who went to a school for the blind! 294 00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:48,200 Could this be the clue we've been looking for? 295 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,920 In the early 1900s, there was a famous Blind School in the city. 296 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:04,120 It featured in an early film about York. 297 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,760 Time to go back to our investigators. 298 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:26,320 We meet at the Blind School itself, now part of the University of York. 299 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,960 If this is to be trusted and we can believe what's in here, 300 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,560 we've got this young girl who's blind, 301 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,360 at this school in the centre of York. 302 00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:41,520 We know that she's approximately ten or 11. 303 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:49,200 The 1911 census lists the children who went to the Blind School 100 years ago. 304 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,880 Could our lost little girl be here? 305 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,680 Pam and David say these records give the chance of a breakthrough. 306 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:03,440 There are six girls of the right age. Five are from outside York. 307 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,440 There's only one... 308 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,600 There's only one that's just plainly born in York. 309 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,120 Through all the book? That's right. In the school. 310 00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:17,080 It's an enormous stroke of luck. 311 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,280 Down the end here is, in theory, our answer. 312 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,600 Ivy Addy, and she is the correct age of ten. 313 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,960 Ivy Addy. It's extraordinary that we've got a name. 314 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,080 We've been working with Nevinson for so long. That's right. 315 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,960 But the actual real name is Addy. 316 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,360 Could this child be our missing link? 317 00:23:40,360 --> 00:23:44,080 You're being really guarded. We've found the family. 318 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,840 We have to prove it without a shadow of a doubt. 319 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,160 It's amazing to me 320 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,200 that our big breakthrough 321 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,920 was a little girl who played in this courtyard 100 years ago. 322 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,200 Ivy Addy, the youngest daughter of our lost family, 323 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,000 who came here to the Blind School in York. 324 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,680 Here's her name again, in the school's annual report. 325 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,800 She's somewhere in this picture. 326 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,280 Ivy Addy definitely was here in 1910. 327 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,120 We just need to find out for sure 328 00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:32,680 her family details match the family Rowntree wrote about. 329 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:38,480 Next step, the city archives, to try and find the name of her father. 330 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:43,360 100 years ago, children in York received a vaccination for smallpox. 331 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:45,640 The records are still kept. 332 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:50,880 If Ivy Addy is here, we'll be led to our family. 333 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,560 There she is. 334 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,560 Wow. There she is. 335 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,240 So, she was born on 5th April 1900. 336 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,400 She lived at 6 Ancroft Street 337 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,920 and her father was John Thomas Addy. 338 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,520 That's the eureka moment! That is the eureka moment. 339 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:17,280 Ivy Addy is the key and, after months, we found our lost family. 340 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,960 In the records, everything about Ivy tallies - 341 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,000 her mother, father, brother and sister. 342 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,000 The names had been changed, after all. 343 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,480 The man so desperate for work was not Mr Nevinson but Mr Addy, 344 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,520 John Thomas Addy. 345 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,600 And now we have a name, we can dig deeper. 346 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,080 York is a city that lives with its history. 347 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,880 Within the city walls, they're digging up the past. 348 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,560 Archeologists are peeling back the layers of the past. 349 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,600 This surface is 1,000 years old. 350 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,480 They're dealing with Jorvik, 351 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,720 that Viking age city, and underneath that, 352 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,160 we're going to find Roman archeology as well. 353 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,960 The archeology you're interested in is further out. 354 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,480 Over the Roman and Viking layers, here at Hungate 355 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,560 the Victorians built rows of tiny back-to-back houses. 356 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:19,240 Because we now know our family is called Addy their world opens up. 357 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,240 We are walking into our most recent excavation, 358 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,960 focusing on 19th-century and early 20th-century Hungate. 359 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,120 Through the remains of the Bricklayer's Arms. 360 00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:36,920 This is a photograph of the actual street we're walking through. 361 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,360 To the left, you can see the pub. 362 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,440 We're now walking through, well, somebody's house. These are houses? 363 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,520 This is a house. We're now into somebody else's house. 364 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:55,200 There is a row of ten one-up, one-down back-to-back houses here. 365 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,240 If we stand up onto here, 366 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,280 we're now standing above the exact space 367 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,480 where the Addy family were living in 1881. 368 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,080 The 1881 census reveals, amazingly, that the Hungate dig 369 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,880 has unearthed the exact house the Addys lived in 130 years ago. 370 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:25,440 It seems extraordinary to me that after all of our searching, 371 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:30,760 we can trace back this family to a house unearthed by archeologists. 372 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,400 Entire families living in just two rooms - one up and one down. 373 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,400 By the time of the survey in 1910, 374 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,960 the Addys had moved from here. 375 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,160 All we know is that the family lived on the edge of town. 376 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,320 Where, exactly, was that? 377 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,760 Time for more detective work, 378 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,720 hunting through birth certificates and census returns. 379 00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:00,200 After Hungate, 380 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,840 the Addys came to live here. 381 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,480 It would have looked very different, pretty much everything has changed 382 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,160 apart from that chapel, now a commercial property. 383 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,640 We know from the work we've done and from this old map, 384 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,480 that this used to be Phoenix Street, where the Addys came to live. 385 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:25,600 This would have been a step up, away from the slums of central York. 386 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,240 Because of our research, we know something else, and it's amazing. 387 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,320 100 years on, 388 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,200 the Addy family live less than two miles away from this property. 389 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,240 So we can now move our story forward. 390 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,600 It wasn't just finding them. 391 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,400 We wanted to know what had happened to them as the century shifted on. 392 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,560 If they survived, what became of them? 393 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,800 The man I'm about to meet can tell me. 394 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,840 He's the grandson of John Thomas Addy. 395 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,520 Until we found the family, he had no idea about the Rowntree study 396 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,560 or about the research. 397 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:20,240 But this man is just two generations from someone who wrote a diary 398 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:25,000 that captured a life with no work, little food and fading hope. 399 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,600 Hi. How are you? 400 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,720 Nice to meet you. You too. Are you well? Yes, fine thank you. 401 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,040 Do come in. I will. Thank you. 402 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:45,000 So, what do you think about our amazing discovery? It's so strange. 403 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,280 It's remarkable, really. It is. It's extraordinary. 404 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,800 In fact, it's unbelievable. Yeah... 405 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,360 Ian Addy is the son of the boy in the book, 406 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,760 the lad described as "12 and underweight but healthy". 407 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,920 I found reading what my ancestors had done, 408 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,360 and the struggle in that particular time, 409 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,480 was just something that... 410 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,880 ..was amazing, really. 411 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:28,080 And...I just thought, "I'm so lucky that, in fact, it's come to this. 412 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:35,160 "That people have joined me with my ancestors, basically." 413 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,200 "MR NEVINSON": Friday 15th July. 414 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,720 Got up at 5am. Went round town to several places, hoping to find work. 415 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,480 But was unsuccessful. Back home at 10am. 416 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,560 Had some cold tea and bread. 417 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,640 Went out until three. 418 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:55,480 Carried a bag for a gentleman to the station. Got sixpence for the job. 419 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,120 Bought quarter of flour, two pennyworth of kippers 420 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,320 and two ounces of tea leaf siftings for a penny ha'penny. 421 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,720 It's just an age that's gone by. 422 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,920 It's looking through a keyhole and realising 423 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,000 just how lucky I am. 424 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,600 Now. 425 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,080 This is your grandma here, Mrs Nevinson. 426 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:26,160 She's tall and stout and has a face radiating good nature. 427 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,920 You do that. How does that feel? 428 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,200 It's just a lovely trait that the Addy family have. 429 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:40,600 She must have been an amazing and resourceful woman. 430 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:46,680 And a strong woman, when you think of the number of children she had. 431 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,760 It's only 100 years ago. Yeah. But does it feel very different? 432 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,800 They lost 17 children. 433 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,000 Yeah. You think of that from a health point of view. 434 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,520 Things have come along that way but, for the rest of things, 435 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,360 there's a lot of parallels between then and now. 436 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,640 Particularly, I think, for young people. 437 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,200 There are direct links with you. 438 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,560 This is Wednesday July 13 1910. Yes. 439 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,800 This is Mr Nevinson, who we know is Mr Addy, your grandfather. 440 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,280 "Cut some old boots up to mend the little boy's boots." Sidney. 441 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,160 Sidney was your dad. That's right. 442 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,800 How does it feel? Make do and mend. That's what one did. 443 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,560 Now we know Mr Nevinson was John Thomas Addy. 444 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,200 And his son, Sidney, was Ian's father. 445 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,160 We don't know whether John Thomas Addy found regular work. 446 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,240 But we know his son did. 447 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,360 As York prospered in the '20s, 448 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,800 a time nationally of near full employment, 449 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,840 Sidney went to the cocoa works. 450 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,800 ORIGINAL VOICEOVER: Rowntree's, the cocoa works, 451 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:13,000 employing many thousands of men, women, boys and girls... 452 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,320 Sidney Addy was working at a company still run by the man 453 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,680 who'd written about his family. 454 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,360 This is Seebohm Rowntree in 1920, showing the then Duke of York, 455 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,440 later George VI, around the chocolate factory. 456 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,560 Unlike his father, Sidney held on to a steady job, 457 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:40,640 despite a generation where millions were thrown out of work because of the Depression. 458 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:46,520 The government had to increase the benefits it gave to those without a job. 459 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,560 Nothing like now, but more than had gone before. 460 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,240 Is that your father? That's my father. 461 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,360 Were you close to him? 462 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,800 Yes. We were very close. 463 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,600 We know from the diaries the poverty Sidney grew up in. 464 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,320 What about his son's life? What had changed for Ian's generation? 465 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,840 How old are you there? I'd be five. 466 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:16,920 Even in that time of the Second World War, 467 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,880 although there was rationing, there was food. 468 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,400 It wasn't just margarine and bread. We did have other things. 469 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,560 We might have to go down to the gasworks 470 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:34,520 to get some coke with a pram, but we got by. We did what we had to do. 471 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,080 Like his father before him. 472 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:42,600 Though Sidney and the unemployed of York had lived through hard times, 473 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,560 the lot of the working man was improving. 474 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,640 Action is being taken on the worst aspects of slum housing. 475 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,960 People are living in much better conditions. 476 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,880 The council is taking an active part in improving the housing stock, 477 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,120 raising people's physical standard of living. 478 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,760 It is very much a halfway house 479 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,720 between the world of 1910 and what was to come. 480 00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:15,320 After the Depression, the economy expanded and Rowntree's grew. 481 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,840 They were employing more people. 482 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,560 Sidney Addy was one of the lucky ones. 483 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:25,040 He worked through the heyday of the chocolate factory. 484 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,600 VOICEOVER: You've probably wondered how these delightful wiggly things 485 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,840 get on the top of chocolate... 486 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,760 This is the main central corridor of the cream block. 487 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:43,000 It led to the production areas. The heart of the factory? Definitely. 488 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:48,800 Now you can see that it's all done by hand. 489 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,720 There's no girl like a Yorkshire girl for dexterity. 490 00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:56,120 At least, that's what they say. 491 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,120 When the ladies were leaving for the day, 492 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:04,560 they'd be queuing up with their cigarettes in their mouths 493 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:09,120 to light up as soon as they got through the doors. 494 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,400 Rowntree's were embracing the latest technology. 495 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,080 The skillful fingers of each machine wrap up one chocolate each 496 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,400 every second of the day. 497 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,120 This is the world's first cinema advert with sound. 498 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,720 York milk is so much nicer. Try some and see. 499 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:42,720 It was for the chocolate bar that was to become the Yorkie. 500 00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:47,280 Ooh! Isn't it lovely? It's quite different. 501 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,720 They might have been a progressive company, embracing new ideas, 502 00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:56,640 but it didn't mean Rowntree's always made money. 503 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,720 Back in its heyday, in those days when this was so busy, 504 00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:08,320 what kind of businessman was Seebohm Rowntree? 505 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:14,400 He was good at finding talented people, nurturing their talent, putting them to work. 506 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,960 But he didn't make a great deal of money. 507 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,640 In 1921, he made a 33% loss. 508 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,920 Then, in 1931, things had got so dire 509 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:31,360 it looked as though the business wasn't going to be able to pay dividends to their shareholders. 510 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:36,520 He had to reshuffle the board and start looking at last measures, 511 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,320 emergency measures to try and save the business. 512 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,800 It looked like it was going to go bankrupt. 513 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,800 But workers like Sidney Addy were able to hang on to their jobs. 514 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:55,160 The company had a radically different view of the relationship between employer and employee. 515 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,840 The bottom line wasn't the sole motivation for being in business. 516 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,120 They even built a new village for York workers, 517 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,360 and not just for those from their company. 518 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:14,040 They wanted people to have decent homes with gardens and space. 519 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,480 Seebohm was investing in health care, libraries, theatres 520 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,360 and swimming pools for his staff, 521 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,880 alongside production and development. 522 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,680 How different was he from other people, 523 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,440 the way they treated their workforce? Oh, crumbs. 524 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,400 He set the standard for the way you treat a workforce. 525 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:44,920 How enthusiastically did they embrace the idea of a library? They thought it was wonderful. 526 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,120 The company magazine is full of regular lists of the latest books. 527 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,360 Lots of cheap trashy novels, which Seebohm approved of 528 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,920 because it edified them to think of higher things. 529 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,560 An important part in the social life 530 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,440 is played by the athletic and sports clubs 531 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:09,560 which organise plenty of healthy rivalry during leisure hours. 532 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,960 We believe this is a rare recording of Seebohm Rowntree. 533 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:19,440 His accent sounds almost Scottish, but he was born and raised in York. 534 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:24,080 This is held towards the end of June on the company's playing field... 535 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,800 This was a time of arch capitalism. What did other people in the company 536 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:34,240 think of spending money on things that wouldn't bring money back? 537 00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:41,160 Most of the board of directors were related to him or worked with his father in the very early days. 538 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,440 They were all in it together. The workforce thought it was great. 539 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,880 They saw Seebohm Rowntree as sort of a figurehead, 540 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,360 a focus for affection. 541 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,160 But his legacy is not to be found at the factory. 542 00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:02,400 Seebohm Rowntree continued to advise politicians throughout the '30s and '40s. 543 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:08,000 His research helped mould the way we treat the poor and the jobless. 544 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,840 The welfare state was created by Seebohm Rowntree, 545 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,520 by his recommendations in his poverty study. 546 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:20,160 Legislation in workplaces today is as a result of the work that he did. 547 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,240 We have pension funds, paid annual holiday, 548 00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:29,600 all kinds of rights that you now expect, it started with him. 549 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,560 He decided that an employee who was being dismissed 550 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,480 ought to be paid wages, like a redundancy package. 551 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:43,800 He said, "We will pay pensions to workers who've been here for many years." He pioneered that. 552 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:49,440 Ah. You've beaten us to it! It's good to get out of the fog. 553 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,880 It's awful outside, Mummy. It's terrible. 554 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,240 I've made a nice hot cup of Rowntree's cocoa. 555 00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:58,960 That'll make us all feel better. 556 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,800 Seebohm Rowntree died in 1954. 557 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,840 He lived to see many of his ideas made real. 558 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:14,000 1946 had seen the introduction of the welfare state, 559 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,040 with benefits for anyone out of work. 560 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,160 For two decades, the population would soar, 561 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:25,200 but unemployment would stay low, rarely more than half a million. 562 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:32,000 The post-war world in York is the post-war world in most other British towns and cities. 563 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,960 There is stable full employment, 564 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:42,840 big industries that are employing large numbers of people - 565 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,320 skilled, semi-skilled and unskilled. 566 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:51,960 If you get a job with these organisations, you're not laid off when work dips. 567 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,000 It's that cliche of a job for life. 568 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,600 Start at Rowntree's or the railway after the war, 569 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,760 you expect to be there for the rest of your working life. 570 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,640 # And he gave me 571 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,680 # A box of Dairy Box... # 572 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,360 Into the '50s, the economy boomed. 573 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,600 For young people, there was a sense of freedom and opportunity. 574 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:24,280 ..a box of Dairy Box. 575 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:29,520 And it was at this time that Ian Addy started his working life. 576 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,320 We're looking at the Five Sisters window. 577 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,600 That's grisaille glass. It's grey glass. 578 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,720 It's 13th century... 579 00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:42,960 The grandson of John Thomas Addy, 580 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,160 who'd paced the streets looking for work, 581 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:52,280 joined the Minster as a glazier - not just work, but a trade. 582 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,360 This is the Zouche chapel. 583 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,800 This is a good place to look at some medieval glass 584 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,080 at close quarters. 585 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:05,080 So how old is this? There's some 15th-century 586 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,160 and some 16th-century panels. 587 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,200 And they're a joy, if you look at that one there. 588 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,640 It's the spider 589 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,840 and the wren, beautifully done. 590 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,960 When I left school, I was fortunate enough 591 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,440 to find that there were jobs out there. 592 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:32,160 I went to the technical college and I had a choice of jobs. 593 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:39,880 And looking down the list of jobs, there was one for a glazier at York Minster. 594 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:45,200 "Glazier" is a term now used for ordinary glass. 595 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,560 A better term might be stained glass craftsman or restorationist, 596 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:54,280 because you're dealing with something a bit special here. 597 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,520 Your grandfather, as we know from the diary, had no choice. 598 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,160 He took whatever work was about. 599 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,440 Your father worked but he didn't have much choice either. 600 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,480 He provided his labour for a wage to keep you in food. 601 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:14,480 How much choice did you feel that you had in the labour market? Well. 602 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,640 There was a big choice. 603 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:22,440 The people at the technical college found that there were jobs for them. 604 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:28,400 VOICEOVER: We're on top of a very high building in the city of York. 605 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:33,240 Over there, behind the walls, thousands of people are at work. 606 00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:37,600 They're at work in a factory, a special kind of factory... 607 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:44,240 This is my generation of York. This is how I grew up. 608 00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:47,400 The commonplace I accepted living here. 609 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,960 It's a lovely place to live. There's work for everybody. 610 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:58,280 The mass employment in Rowntree's and the railways continues through the 1970s and 1980s. 611 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,680 Whatever your background, 612 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,720 the world is your oyster. 613 00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:07,400 You can contemplate university because there are grants. 614 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,240 You have a choice of employment opportunities. 615 00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:16,720 In this era the next generation of Addys started looking for work. 616 00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:18,800 This is the best bit! 617 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,040 The great-grandchildren of the man from Rowntree's study. 618 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,480 What do you think? You can't sing. You can't play. You look awful. 619 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,160 You'll go a long way. 620 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,240 You've got two sons. Simon is a potter. 621 00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:36,600 What about Mark? 622 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:41,080 Mark, he decided, whilst at Joseph Rowntree School 623 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,040 to be an actor. 624 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,440 Which filled us with dread. LAUGHS 625 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:54,320 But he decided he would go for auditions 626 00:45:54,320 --> 00:46:01,120 and he was very fortunate enough to be accepted by RADA. 627 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:07,320 So we are now about to get to the third generation since the diary was written. 628 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,880 It's been a long journey. 629 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,240 We set out to find out what had happened to John Thomas Addy, 630 00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:17,600 who wrote those diaries in York 100 years ago. 631 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:22,960 Ian's son would be the third generation since those diaries were written. 632 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:28,560 We had no idea who we'd find, what they'd be doing, where they'd be living. 633 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:33,320 It turns out there is one more extraordinary twist to this story. 634 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,760 I believe you create your own opportunities in life. 635 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,080 You gotta go out there and make things happen. 636 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,440 It's not like something's gonna drop out the sky 637 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,600 and change your whole life. 638 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:54,400 That training to be an actor paid off for the great-grandson of our desperate diarist. 639 00:46:54,400 --> 00:47:00,320 You might just recognise him from the small and the big screen. 640 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,560 I can claim it as a miracle from God. 641 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,400 Church in York would never deny a miracle. 642 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,280 Your family continues to have this strong link with York. 643 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,080 How important is it for you to be living here? 644 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,760 It's a place that I've lived all my life... 645 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:29,560 Mark Addy has a life about as far removed from his great-grandfather's 646 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,000 as you can ever imagine. 647 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:37,320 What did your parents think when you said, "I want to be an actor"? 648 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,720 I think they thought it was a phase I was going through. 649 00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:44,720 But they were very supportive. 650 00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:48,680 Once they realised it was something I was serious about, 651 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,720 that I was going to actually give it a fair old stab... 652 00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:56,920 The telly jobs came in and then in the middle of it all, 653 00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:01,280 The Fully Monty came up and it went a bit haywire from there. 654 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,280 Get on with it! 655 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:09,800 We may not be young, we may not be pretty, but we're here, 656 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,960 we're live and, for one night only, we're going for the fully monty! 657 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,400 Did you have a sense with The Full Monty - 658 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:37,040 about unemployment in Yorkshire - that was going to be a big film? 659 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,920 Not really. 660 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:45,480 We assumed that it wouldn't play well outside of Yorkshire, let alone outside of this country. 661 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,880 So when it did well Japan and the States and Peru and places, 662 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,120 I don't quite know how that worked out. 663 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:57,320 There were a lot of themes common to humanity, I suppose. 664 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,000 Mark's acting career took off in the late '80s 665 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,600 just as jobs started to leave York. 666 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:10,760 It held out longer than other parts of the country, which had gone through a deep recession. 667 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:16,400 In 1986, three million people, one in ten of the workforce, were unemployed. 668 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,440 Even York's chocolate industry wasn't immune. 669 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:25,600 In 1988, after 126 years, Rowntree's was sold to Nestle. 670 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:30,040 REPORTER: Managers at Rowntree's headquarters in York 671 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,880 spent the day explaining details of the Nestle's offer to the workforce. 672 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:39,360 I think it's very sad, owning Rowntree's all these years, 673 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,000 having to let it go to someone else. 674 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,200 It's the best firm in England to work for. 675 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,320 I've worked there for 45 years. 676 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:56,120 York was changing, not just the chocolate industry, but the other big employer, 677 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,240 the railways. 678 00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:01,600 The city was moving towards what it is today, 679 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,960 a mixture of tourism and office jobs. 680 00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:12,640 For the Addys, a journey that began in slums of York ended in Hollywood. 681 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,920 There's this extraordinary coincidence, from our point of view, 682 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:22,320 that a search that started with this very poor man four generations ago 683 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,880 here in York, has led to a film star 684 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,360 whose breakthrough film is about unemployment in Yorkshire. 685 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,120 What are the chances of that? 686 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,680 But that's, I suppose, that's... That's the nature of these things. 687 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:41,280 You never know where the path is going to lead you to. 688 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,560 That's fascinating. 689 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,320 "MR NEVINSON": Thursday July 21st. 690 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,800 Went out at 6am. 691 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,840 Walked to Naburn to meet boats for W's wharf. 692 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:32,320 Waited there till 12 and walked back home at two. 693 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,560 This is where your great-grandfather came. Yeah. 694 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:43,160 Fair old walk to try and beat the crowds of workers 695 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,720 lined up on the wharves in York. 696 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:58,160 Friday July 22nd. Up at five. Walked round and round the town till 12. 697 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,240 Nothing doing anywhere so I was fairly sick of walking about. 698 00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:08,880 For dinner I had bread and kipper and a drink of tea. No breakfast. No tea. No supper. Went to bed at 7.30. 699 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:13,600 In the meantime, chopped wood that he'd picked up at the waterside. 700 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,800 Came all the way to Naburn looking for work. Didn't find any. 701 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:23,720 Take a bit of wood back home and chop it up to keep the family warm. 702 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:30,000 And tea is pretty much all you're going to get by on. 703 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:36,160 Is there any pride that it's your great-grandfather's voice, 704 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:41,440 his honesty, that led to changes that we all know? Absolutely. Yeah. 705 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:47,640 Although he would have no inkling that that was what was going on. 706 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,600 He was just being truthful about the way he lived 707 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,560 and the way his family lived. 708 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:59,840 Um... But extraordinary that, yeah, it is a part 709 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,520 of the changing shape of our social history. 710 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:25,240 Back at the cemetery, the records show John Thomas, his wife Jane, 711 00:53:25,240 --> 00:53:30,120 their children including daughter Ivy who only lived to be 23, 712 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,160 are buried in an unmarked grave. 713 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,400 Just here. 714 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:40,960 There's no headstone. This plot here is where your great-granddad is. 715 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,920 That's where Ivy is. That is the Addy family plot. 716 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:49,400 There it is. Just a little blank piece of earth. 717 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,760 Empty space. 718 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,720 They bought the plot but didn't have enough for a headstone. 719 00:53:57,720 --> 00:54:00,360 Well, maybe we can... 720 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,040 ..do something about that. 721 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,080 You want to change that? 722 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,600 They'll get a headstone there. 723 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,320 We tracked down more family members 724 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,080 and reunited them at the old Addy home. 725 00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:28,120 These people are all descendants of John Thomas Addy. 726 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:32,600 A former policeman, a store manager, 727 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,920 kids just starting school. 728 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:40,680 That is the house that your ancestors used to live in in 1881. 729 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:46,440 What does it feel like coming here to see where your family are from? 730 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:51,600 Brilliant. When I first heard about it I had tears in my eyes. 731 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,600 It's fascinating, absolutely fascinating. 732 00:54:56,240 --> 00:55:00,320 Grandsons, great-grandchildren and the latest additions - 733 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:06,000 four generations from the man who moved through these streets. 734 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:10,680 You start thinking did they have the Addy ears and teeth? 735 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:15,160 They looked at the old house like it was from a different world. 736 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,280 In some ways, it is. 737 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:23,240 You just wonder whether these people were like me, like David, like Nicky. 738 00:55:23,240 --> 00:55:27,400 The desperate poverty captured in the diaries has gone. 739 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,000 The story of the Addy family is one that most of us share. 740 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,840 We are richer and we have much more opportunity. 741 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,800 Goodness! How they managed. Yeah. 742 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,040 What does the Addy family history 743 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:46,600 tell us about the history of this country and working-class people? 744 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,720 I think it says that we... 745 00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:50,760 we are survivors. 746 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,120 That we were able to... 747 00:55:54,120 --> 00:56:01,040 meet any particular thing that we come up against, 748 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:06,320 any adversity, and that we will still manage, 749 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:11,560 like my grandfather, to go out and look for work. 750 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,040 Even when he hasn't got it. 751 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,400 And because of that, 752 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,520 we've each generation managed 753 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,640 to move a little bit further up that staircase. 754 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:35,280 And we're all so grateful for the generation before. 755 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:42,080 It's wonderful to see Addys that I didn't even know. It's remarkable. 756 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,360 We've all been on a long journey. 757 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,560 Ooh, look at them go! 758 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,600 APPLAUSE 759 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:57,520 And this family, at least, can see how far they've travelled. 760 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,600 But this is only half our journey. 761 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:07,680 Like in 1910, right now, we are coming out of recession. 762 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:14,760 Unemployment and poverty haven't gone away, even from a relatively prosperous city like York. 763 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,280 Next time, we return to York 764 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,760 and, as Rowntree did a century ago, 765 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,320 look beneath the surface of this city. 766 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,840 Well, it's Friday morning. 767 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,800 It's been raining for the third night on the trot. 768 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:35,760 My tent's, like, completely soaked. I'm damp. 769 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:44,840 How can it be that in 2010, a casual labourer is still living a hand-to-mouth existence? 770 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:51,920 And a middle-aged man will go to any lengths to fight for his lost job? 771 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,040 It's our job. You know it's our job! 772 00:57:55,040 --> 00:58:00,400 I don't know a better word than scab. We can't say it cos it's hurtful. 773 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:05,960 It should be bloody hurtful. They should find it difficult to sleep. 774 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:11,120 And the desperate and the jobless are still living on hand-outs. 775 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:16,720 You like ham, don't you? Anyone for baked beans? Please. 776 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,760 People like you 100 years ago were the last rung. 777 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:25,600 How do you feel that you're still providing that kind of safety net? 778 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,840 Sad. Gob-smacked but sad. 779 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,360 If Rowntree came back now, 780 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:36,000 what would he make of the people we find and the stories they tell? 781 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,080 Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd