1 00:00:06,139 --> 00:00:07,474 You always love superheroes. 2 00:00:07,474 --> 00:00:09,275 You always love villains and heroes. 3 00:00:09,275 --> 00:00:11,644 You put on that costume, black, tight. 4 00:00:11,644 --> 00:00:14,447 You lose 20 pounds right away, you look great. 5 00:00:14,447 --> 00:00:16,016 Meow. 6 00:00:16,016 --> 00:00:17,050 We used to say, 7 00:00:17,050 --> 00:00:18,284 "We put on our tights 8 00:00:18,284 --> 00:00:19,452 to put on the world." 9 00:00:19,452 --> 00:00:22,055 [ "Batman Theme" playing ] 10 00:00:26,259 --> 00:00:28,395 He liked the walls to pop out. 11 00:00:28,395 --> 00:00:30,230 He'd come in, and they would pop. 12 00:00:31,831 --> 00:00:34,167 The generation of women my age 13 00:00:34,167 --> 00:00:37,270 that had mothers that were saying, 14 00:00:37,270 --> 00:00:41,007 "You can do whatever you set your mind to." 15 00:00:41,007 --> 00:00:43,343 That tells you something about our culture 16 00:00:43,343 --> 00:00:45,678 and what people really enjoy, 17 00:00:45,678 --> 00:00:47,914 what people are more fixated on, 18 00:00:47,914 --> 00:00:49,449 what grabs them. 19 00:01:01,061 --> 00:01:03,063 SEACREST: They put on a costume 20 00:01:03,063 --> 00:01:04,397 to entertain a nation. 21 00:01:04,397 --> 00:01:07,033 WEST: It was easy to play Batman. 22 00:01:07,033 --> 00:01:09,669 The moment I pulled on that cowl, 23 00:01:09,669 --> 00:01:11,504 it was like, in my head, it was like, 24 00:01:11,504 --> 00:01:13,506 "Hey, you want to go out and play Batman? 25 00:01:13,506 --> 00:01:14,741 Let's go, come on!" 26 00:01:14,741 --> 00:01:17,644 It's a clue, all right. But what does it mean? 27 00:01:17,644 --> 00:01:19,846 To the Batcave. We'll analyze it. 28 00:01:19,846 --> 00:01:21,848 I used to call them my "python pants" 29 00:01:21,848 --> 00:01:24,117 because they nearly strangled you to death. 30 00:01:24,117 --> 00:01:27,087 And, I mean, man was not built for tights, let me tell you. 31 00:01:27,087 --> 00:01:28,088 Under this garb, 32 00:01:28,088 --> 00:01:30,123 we're perfectly ordinary Americans. 33 00:01:30,123 --> 00:01:33,259 Sometimes if a costume is right... 34 00:01:33,259 --> 00:01:34,894 [ Sighs ] 35 00:01:34,894 --> 00:01:36,096 you don't have to act. 36 00:01:36,096 --> 00:01:38,865 Au revoir, Batman. 37 00:01:38,865 --> 00:01:42,035 Running around in spandex and a cape, you know. 38 00:01:42,035 --> 00:01:45,138 That's going to be my hero. 39 00:01:45,138 --> 00:01:46,339 Who are you?! 40 00:01:46,339 --> 00:01:48,675 I'm looking for the case file you're working on. 41 00:01:48,675 --> 00:01:50,009 [ Bullet ricocheting ] 42 00:01:52,879 --> 00:01:56,149 I wore less on the beach. 43 00:01:56,149 --> 00:01:58,451 It was more than a bikini. 44 00:01:58,451 --> 00:02:01,721 It was the American flag in a one-piece suit. 45 00:02:06,226 --> 00:02:08,361 SEACREST: They played the characters 46 00:02:08,361 --> 00:02:10,230 that sparked our imaginations. 47 00:02:10,230 --> 00:02:11,731 I got beat up a lot as a kid. 48 00:02:11,731 --> 00:02:13,600 So I wanted to be like the Hulk -- 49 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,468 I wanted to be so strong, so invincible. 50 00:02:15,468 --> 00:02:17,303 [ Grunts ] 51 00:02:22,008 --> 00:02:24,344 The creator of "Wonder Woman" 52 00:02:24,344 --> 00:02:27,580 really felt that girls needed a hero, too -- 53 00:02:27,580 --> 00:02:29,082 and developed Wonder Woman. 54 00:02:29,082 --> 00:02:31,751 Women are the wave of the future. 55 00:02:31,751 --> 00:02:33,319 And sisterhood is... 56 00:02:33,319 --> 00:02:35,088 stronger than anything. 57 00:02:36,122 --> 00:02:37,757 SEACREST: They had fun 58 00:02:37,757 --> 00:02:39,592 and brought us along for the ride. 59 00:02:39,592 --> 00:02:42,829 I thought, "Yeah, that's the kind of comedy 60 00:02:42,829 --> 00:02:45,565 I'd like to try, something absurd." 61 00:02:45,565 --> 00:02:47,200 Oh, I loved doing "Batman." 62 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,002 It was huge fun. 63 00:02:49,002 --> 00:02:52,238 "Holy strawberries, Batman! Are we in a jam!" 64 00:02:52,238 --> 00:02:55,842 See, that one, I thought, was a little on the corny side. 65 00:02:55,842 --> 00:02:57,076 Holy popcorn! 66 00:02:57,076 --> 00:02:59,846 Man-eating lilacs. Holy purple cannibals! 67 00:02:59,846 --> 00:03:04,717 But they started giving Jimmy a chance to be funny 68 00:03:04,717 --> 00:03:07,353 and do comedy and do comic bits. 69 00:03:10,023 --> 00:03:11,958 Well, I'll be a side-winding gopher! 70 00:03:11,958 --> 00:03:13,259 Whatever that is. 71 00:03:13,259 --> 00:03:15,261 You feel like a winner, because no matter what, 72 00:03:15,261 --> 00:03:16,329 the Hulk always succeeds. 73 00:03:16,329 --> 00:03:17,597 He never fails. 74 00:03:17,597 --> 00:03:20,900 In our dreams, we can be anything we want to be. 75 00:03:20,900 --> 00:03:23,503 SEACREST: Together, they gave new life 76 00:03:23,503 --> 00:03:25,205 to an established genre... 77 00:03:25,205 --> 00:03:28,875 entertaining millions of every age. 78 00:03:28,875 --> 00:03:31,211 They are the "Pioneers of Television." 79 00:03:39,852 --> 00:03:43,489 It may the most famous scene in the Batman franchise. 80 00:03:43,489 --> 00:03:47,794 Adam West, as Batman, tries to get rid of a bomb 81 00:03:47,794 --> 00:03:49,963 that's about to explode. 82 00:03:49,963 --> 00:03:53,166 That long sequence with the bomb on the pier 83 00:03:53,166 --> 00:03:54,634 in Santa Barbara -- 84 00:03:54,634 --> 00:03:57,604 in which I couldn't get rid of the bomb. 85 00:03:57,604 --> 00:03:59,973 Batman discovers this bomb, okay. 86 00:03:59,973 --> 00:04:02,842 Of course, you know, it's going to go off, 87 00:04:02,842 --> 00:04:03,876 so he's gotta get rid of it. 88 00:04:07,914 --> 00:04:09,882 He runs over to this pier, and on one side, 89 00:04:09,882 --> 00:04:12,118 he starts to throw it, and there's a mother duck 90 00:04:12,118 --> 00:04:14,120 with her little ducklings down in the water. 91 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:15,188 He can't throw it there. 92 00:04:19,959 --> 00:04:21,294 He runs in another direction, 93 00:04:21,294 --> 00:04:23,162 here's the Salvation Army Band playing. 94 00:04:23,162 --> 00:04:25,798 [ Band playing "Bringing in the Sheaves" ] 95 00:04:27,700 --> 00:04:30,903 So the last line, he's totally winded 96 00:04:30,903 --> 00:04:32,138 and frustrated, 97 00:04:32,138 --> 00:04:33,640 and he says, what -- 98 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,541 looking down at the water, 99 00:04:35,541 --> 00:04:38,111 "Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb!" 100 00:04:39,545 --> 00:04:41,914 Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb. 101 00:04:42,849 --> 00:04:44,484 SEACREST: The scene epitomized 102 00:04:44,484 --> 00:04:46,886 what made the "Batman" TV series succeed... 103 00:04:46,886 --> 00:04:48,121 [ Explosion ] 104 00:04:48,121 --> 00:04:51,190 the perfect combination of action and comedy. 105 00:04:51,190 --> 00:04:57,330 To make it funny and ludicrous, absurd in a sense, 106 00:04:57,330 --> 00:05:00,233 but always kind of believable. 107 00:05:00,233 --> 00:05:03,670 SEACREST: "Batman" didn't start out as a comedy. 108 00:05:03,670 --> 00:05:06,739 The original comic books were darker, more serious. 109 00:05:06,739 --> 00:05:08,875 When the show came to television, 110 00:05:08,875 --> 00:05:11,210 the producers wanted a lighter touch, 111 00:05:11,210 --> 00:05:13,413 but they couldn't find an actor who could pull it off 112 00:05:13,413 --> 00:05:16,983 until they saw this commercial for Nestle Quik. 113 00:05:16,983 --> 00:05:19,185 MAN: Oh, Captain Q! 114 00:05:19,185 --> 00:05:20,953 Join me in a glass of delicious chocolate Quik, 115 00:05:20,953 --> 00:05:22,088 won't you? 116 00:05:22,088 --> 00:05:23,289 Thank you, Doctor. 117 00:05:23,289 --> 00:05:24,824 I could use some energy. 118 00:05:27,193 --> 00:05:28,928 Incidentally, one of those torpedoes 119 00:05:28,928 --> 00:05:30,363 you fired at me was circling, 120 00:05:30,363 --> 00:05:31,731 and... 121 00:05:31,731 --> 00:05:32,732 [ Explosion ] 122 00:05:32,732 --> 00:05:34,000 You're sunk. 123 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,569 Toodle-oo, Captain Q! 124 00:05:36,569 --> 00:05:40,306 Some people will do anything to get rich Quik. 125 00:05:42,108 --> 00:05:43,443 Toodle-oo. 126 00:05:43,443 --> 00:05:45,178 They saw them, 127 00:05:45,178 --> 00:05:48,614 and they said, "Kid, I think you can play Batman," 128 00:05:48,614 --> 00:05:49,849 and they called me in. 129 00:05:51,451 --> 00:05:54,420 SEACREST: The next step was casting Robin. 130 00:05:54,420 --> 00:05:58,391 Despite looking at more than a thousand actors for the role, 131 00:05:58,391 --> 00:05:59,826 no one seemed right. 132 00:05:59,826 --> 00:06:02,762 Then Burt Ward wandered in 133 00:06:02,762 --> 00:06:05,531 for his very first acting audition ever. 134 00:06:05,531 --> 00:06:07,166 Go for broke, you know. 135 00:06:07,166 --> 00:06:10,370 And that's what I did, all the way, right for the character. 136 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:12,305 And they loved it. 137 00:06:12,305 --> 00:06:14,107 [ Sighs ] 138 00:06:14,107 --> 00:06:15,408 Listen, Bruce, I've got an idea. 139 00:06:15,408 --> 00:06:16,809 Yes? 140 00:06:16,809 --> 00:06:18,311 Remember what the Riddler said 141 00:06:18,311 --> 00:06:19,912 when he slipped you that summons? 142 00:06:19,912 --> 00:06:22,448 "What is it that no one wants to have 143 00:06:22,448 --> 00:06:24,150 yet no one wants to lose?" 144 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:25,918 And you answered, "A lawsuit." 145 00:06:25,918 --> 00:06:28,654 SEACREST: From the first day of production, 146 00:06:28,654 --> 00:06:30,289 almost nothing went right. 147 00:06:30,289 --> 00:06:33,226 Explosions misfired with regularity... 148 00:06:33,226 --> 00:06:35,461 sending Burt Ward to the hospital 149 00:06:35,461 --> 00:06:36,829 four times in a week. 150 00:06:36,829 --> 00:06:39,098 These guys that are setting dynamite charges, 151 00:06:39,098 --> 00:06:41,467 you do not want to smell liquor on their breath 152 00:06:41,467 --> 00:06:43,302 at 8:00 in the morning -- bad sign! 153 00:06:43,302 --> 00:06:44,904 The signal! 154 00:06:47,907 --> 00:06:49,742 I climb up, and as I get to the top -- 155 00:06:49,742 --> 00:06:51,077 just to get into position... 156 00:06:53,746 --> 00:06:56,716 the car unexpectedly blows up. 157 00:06:58,251 --> 00:07:00,019 Just excruciating pain. 158 00:07:00,019 --> 00:07:03,656 They said, "Look, Burt, we will get you right over 159 00:07:03,656 --> 00:07:06,859 to the emergency hospital as soon as we finish the shot." 160 00:07:06,859 --> 00:07:09,295 I said, "What do you mean, I'm not going now?" 161 00:07:09,295 --> 00:07:11,697 "No, no, you've got to go back and shoot the shot. 162 00:07:11,697 --> 00:07:14,333 We got the whole crew, we got 80 guys in the crew here." 163 00:07:14,333 --> 00:07:15,935 Well, it was kind of chaos 164 00:07:15,935 --> 00:07:18,070 the first week or so of shooting 165 00:07:18,070 --> 00:07:22,742 in that Burt kept getting in the way 166 00:07:22,742 --> 00:07:25,344 of bombs and speeding cars. 167 00:07:25,344 --> 00:07:29,115 SEACREST: The chemistry between Adam West and Burt Ward 168 00:07:29,115 --> 00:07:30,783 worked from the very beginning... 169 00:07:30,783 --> 00:07:34,654 although the two did have a friendly sense of competition. 170 00:07:34,654 --> 00:07:37,623 If you noticed when he said his lines, 171 00:07:37,623 --> 00:07:42,528 Adam spoke very slowly. 172 00:07:42,528 --> 00:07:44,330 Robin's right. 173 00:07:44,330 --> 00:07:48,634 He has a strange artistic compulsion to -- 174 00:07:48,634 --> 00:07:50,136 Artistic. 175 00:07:50,136 --> 00:07:51,737 That's it. 176 00:07:51,737 --> 00:07:53,339 The meaning of the first clue -- 177 00:07:53,339 --> 00:07:55,308 The Peel Art Gallery. 178 00:07:55,308 --> 00:07:56,809 Why did he do that? 179 00:07:56,809 --> 00:07:59,545 Well, he understood that if he spoke slowly -- 180 00:07:59,545 --> 00:08:02,415 and they had to be on him for the entire line -- 181 00:08:02,415 --> 00:08:05,218 it would take longer for him to say his lines. 182 00:08:05,218 --> 00:08:08,254 The camera would be, therefore, on him longer, 183 00:08:08,254 --> 00:08:12,558 and less on the other actors -- He was very smart about that. 184 00:08:12,558 --> 00:08:13,759 The real crime? 185 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:15,761 Precisely, Inspector Bash. 186 00:08:15,761 --> 00:08:19,298 The Riddler contrives his plots like artichokes -- 187 00:08:19,298 --> 00:08:22,902 you have to strip off spiny leaves to reach the heart. 188 00:08:22,902 --> 00:08:25,137 We're talking, and then all of a sudden, 189 00:08:25,137 --> 00:08:28,040 he opens up his cape and walks right up to the camera 190 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,542 and stands there blocking me out. 191 00:08:29,542 --> 00:08:31,043 And the director said, "Wait a minute, 192 00:08:31,043 --> 00:08:32,345 Burt's in the shot, Adam!" 193 00:08:32,345 --> 00:08:34,146 He said, "I had to do it." 194 00:08:34,146 --> 00:08:36,315 I said, "Why did you have to do that, Adam?" 195 00:08:36,315 --> 00:08:38,150 He says, "Because I felt the moment. 196 00:08:38,150 --> 00:08:39,385 I felt it was necessary." 197 00:08:39,385 --> 00:08:42,388 I did occasionally kid Burt, 198 00:08:42,388 --> 00:08:45,591 tease him a bit by holding up a cape 199 00:08:45,591 --> 00:08:49,328 in front of his face and in front of a take, 200 00:08:49,328 --> 00:08:54,333 but only if he misunderstood something... 201 00:08:54,333 --> 00:08:59,639 if he was doing something he shouldn't do as my sidekick. 202 00:08:59,639 --> 00:09:02,308 "Okay, take two," and it would come down. 203 00:09:02,308 --> 00:09:05,111 SEACREST: In the first few weeks of production, 204 00:09:05,111 --> 00:09:07,813 Adam West faced a more serious challenge 205 00:09:07,813 --> 00:09:09,682 from producer Bill Dozier 206 00:09:09,682 --> 00:09:12,585 over how to play the Batman character. 207 00:09:12,585 --> 00:09:18,558 They wanted it very straight and "Lone Ranger" kind of thing 208 00:09:18,558 --> 00:09:21,427 and nothing behind the mask. 209 00:09:21,427 --> 00:09:23,162 I couldn't do that. 210 00:09:23,162 --> 00:09:27,500 I felt that Batman is a very interesting character, 211 00:09:27,500 --> 00:09:30,436 but even comedically -- as the bright knight 212 00:09:30,436 --> 00:09:32,138 and not the dark knight -- 213 00:09:32,138 --> 00:09:33,973 you had to have fun with it. 214 00:09:33,973 --> 00:09:37,476 SEACREST: Adam West won the argument, 215 00:09:37,476 --> 00:09:39,145 and his Batman character 216 00:09:39,145 --> 00:09:42,748 became one of the biggest breakout hits of the decade. 217 00:09:42,748 --> 00:09:45,518 In the '60s, the three "Bs" -- 218 00:09:45,518 --> 00:09:49,522 Bond, Beatles, and Batman. 219 00:09:49,522 --> 00:09:53,192 And I thought, "My God, I'm a part of that trio?!" 220 00:09:53,192 --> 00:09:56,195 SEACREST: But behind the scenes, producer Bill Dozier 221 00:09:56,195 --> 00:09:58,998 was actively working to keep control of his stars 222 00:09:58,998 --> 00:10:01,167 on his show. 223 00:10:01,167 --> 00:10:03,502 WEST: When I was on the cover of Life magazine, 224 00:10:03,502 --> 00:10:04,670 he called me into the office. 225 00:10:04,670 --> 00:10:06,205 He threw the magazine 226 00:10:06,205 --> 00:10:08,608 down on his desk in front of me. 227 00:10:08,608 --> 00:10:11,744 I just stood there and looked at him with a little grin. 228 00:10:11,744 --> 00:10:14,380 And he said, "Oh, wait a minute, 229 00:10:14,380 --> 00:10:16,248 don't forget, 230 00:10:16,248 --> 00:10:19,552 there have been 12 Tarzans, Adam." 231 00:10:19,552 --> 00:10:22,054 "Oh, okay. 232 00:10:22,054 --> 00:10:24,390 We'll see." 233 00:10:25,825 --> 00:10:28,661 SEACREST: Batman's influence on American television 234 00:10:28,661 --> 00:10:31,530 was larger than almost any other show of the period. 235 00:10:31,530 --> 00:10:34,300 Gleebs! It's Batman! 236 00:10:35,368 --> 00:10:37,870 SEACREST: It was the first series to tap into 237 00:10:37,870 --> 00:10:39,905 the colorful pop art movement, 238 00:10:39,905 --> 00:10:41,540 personified by artists like Andy Warhol. 239 00:10:41,540 --> 00:10:42,808 WEST: Look what was happening 240 00:10:42,808 --> 00:10:45,578 in society, look at the world of art, 241 00:10:45,578 --> 00:10:49,315 and all of those kind of wondrous, splashy, 242 00:10:49,315 --> 00:10:54,020 primary, comic-book colors that people were painting in. 243 00:10:54,020 --> 00:10:56,989 Anything I can do for you, sir? Check your cape? 244 00:10:56,989 --> 00:10:59,759 SEACREST: The distinctive look, the tongue-in-cheek humor... 245 00:10:59,759 --> 00:11:02,261 Just looking, thanks. I'll stand at the bar. 246 00:11:02,261 --> 00:11:04,463 I shouldn't wish to attract attention. 247 00:11:04,463 --> 00:11:06,065 SEACREST: and the huge ratings 248 00:11:06,065 --> 00:11:11,437 meant "Batman" wasn't just popular, it was hip. 249 00:11:11,437 --> 00:11:13,939 Everyone wanted to be a guest star on the show 250 00:11:13,939 --> 00:11:15,408 as the villain of the week. 251 00:11:15,408 --> 00:11:18,044 You shake a pretty mean cape, Batman. 252 00:11:21,547 --> 00:11:23,616 Oh, I loved doing "Batman." 253 00:11:23,616 --> 00:11:24,950 It was huge fun. 254 00:11:24,950 --> 00:11:28,821 No man can resist the stunning note of my voice -- 255 00:11:28,821 --> 00:11:30,923 two octaves above high "C." 256 00:11:30,923 --> 00:11:33,526 I want you to call Batman, hmm? 257 00:11:33,526 --> 00:11:37,630 And have him meet you in some neutral place. 258 00:11:37,630 --> 00:11:39,031 [ Gasps ] 259 00:11:39,031 --> 00:11:40,533 If you desire. 260 00:11:40,533 --> 00:11:43,936 Doing that whistle or that voice... 261 00:11:43,936 --> 00:11:47,440 [ Piercing tone plays ] 262 00:11:49,075 --> 00:11:52,078 that she does and everybody turns to stone -- 263 00:11:52,078 --> 00:11:54,246 yeah, it was a riot. 264 00:11:54,246 --> 00:11:58,150 SEACREST: Fan favorites included Cesar Romero's Joker, 265 00:11:58,150 --> 00:11:59,985 Burgess Meredith's Penguin, 266 00:11:59,985 --> 00:12:03,222 and Frank Gorshin's Riddler. 267 00:12:03,222 --> 00:12:05,624 He was always on the manic, dangerous edge, 268 00:12:05,624 --> 00:12:08,427 which I loved, and I could relate to that. 269 00:12:08,427 --> 00:12:11,497 And they all seemed to just thrive on this opportunity 270 00:12:11,497 --> 00:12:14,066 to not be limited in what they were doing. 271 00:12:14,066 --> 00:12:16,836 In other words, they could make their characters 272 00:12:16,836 --> 00:12:18,070 bigger than life. 273 00:12:18,070 --> 00:12:23,309 The whole world almost literally in our grasp, 274 00:12:23,309 --> 00:12:27,012 and Batman and Robin still alive to block us. 275 00:12:27,012 --> 00:12:29,148 [ Laughing ] 276 00:12:29,148 --> 00:12:31,450 Everything pip-pip with the prisoner, comrades. 277 00:12:31,450 --> 00:12:32,518 He hasn't a clue. 278 00:12:32,518 --> 00:12:34,820 No, but I bet the Dynamic Duo has. 279 00:12:34,820 --> 00:12:37,857 What? A clue in how we made the ship disappear. 280 00:12:40,426 --> 00:12:43,195 SEACREST: Batman's most vexing nemesis was Catwoman -- 281 00:12:43,195 --> 00:12:44,797 played by Eartha Kitt, 282 00:12:44,797 --> 00:12:47,032 Lee Meriwether, 283 00:12:47,032 --> 00:12:50,336 and, most famously, Julie Newmar. 284 00:12:50,336 --> 00:12:52,471 I mean, you put on that costume -- 285 00:12:52,471 --> 00:12:55,908 black, tight, you lose 20 pounds right away, you look great. 286 00:12:55,908 --> 00:12:58,611 You've got high heels, you've got great dialogue, 287 00:12:58,611 --> 00:13:00,112 you have fun. 288 00:13:00,112 --> 00:13:04,183 It would be one of the choice roles for women of all time. 289 00:13:04,183 --> 00:13:05,951 [ Screams ] 290 00:13:08,020 --> 00:13:09,555 BATMAN: It's all over, Catwoman. 291 00:13:09,555 --> 00:13:13,459 I'll do everything I can to rehabilitate you. 292 00:13:13,459 --> 00:13:15,027 Marry me. 293 00:13:15,027 --> 00:13:16,695 Everything except that. 294 00:13:16,695 --> 00:13:20,099 A wife, no matter how beauteous or affectionate, 295 00:13:20,099 --> 00:13:22,234 would severely impair my crime-fighting. 296 00:13:22,234 --> 00:13:24,503 But I can help you in your work. 297 00:13:24,503 --> 00:13:27,206 As a former criminal, I'd be invaluable. 298 00:13:27,206 --> 00:13:28,741 What about Robin? 299 00:13:28,741 --> 00:13:31,310 Robin? 300 00:13:31,310 --> 00:13:33,445 Oh, I've got it -- we'll kill him. 301 00:13:34,180 --> 00:13:37,716 She was... 302 00:13:37,716 --> 00:13:38,818 naughty, yes, 303 00:13:38,818 --> 00:13:40,019 delicious, yes. 304 00:13:40,019 --> 00:13:42,988 She was a tease, 305 00:13:42,988 --> 00:13:46,392 but she wasn't basically... 306 00:13:46,392 --> 00:13:48,527 psychopath evil. 307 00:13:48,527 --> 00:13:52,064 You might think so, but she wasn't really. 308 00:13:52,064 --> 00:13:55,367 And she promised to date me when she gets out of jail. 309 00:13:55,367 --> 00:13:58,003 Yeah, for good behavior. 310 00:13:58,003 --> 00:13:59,939 That would be good. 311 00:13:59,939 --> 00:14:03,776 Well, I got better as it went along 312 00:14:03,776 --> 00:14:07,713 because playing an animal character, 313 00:14:07,713 --> 00:14:11,550 you've got to feel that way, look that way, 314 00:14:11,550 --> 00:14:13,986 sound that way, behave that way. 315 00:14:13,986 --> 00:14:15,621 So it takes some learning. 316 00:14:15,621 --> 00:14:17,523 It's... 317 00:14:17,523 --> 00:14:19,959 I did get better by the third show 318 00:14:19,959 --> 00:14:21,260 and the fourth show. 319 00:14:21,260 --> 00:14:23,462 I was much more cat-like, mm-hmm. 320 00:14:26,298 --> 00:14:28,300 [ Humming "Three Blind Mice" ] 321 00:14:30,903 --> 00:14:32,938 You feline devil! 322 00:14:32,938 --> 00:14:34,740 What have you done with Robin?! 323 00:14:34,740 --> 00:14:38,744 Aw, is that any way to greet an old friend, Batman? 324 00:14:38,744 --> 00:14:41,480 Not even a "Hello, how are you"? 325 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,215 [ Hisses ] 326 00:14:43,215 --> 00:14:44,350 Meow. 327 00:14:44,350 --> 00:14:47,753 When you know where the jokes are, 328 00:14:47,753 --> 00:14:49,722 you know, you got to... 329 00:14:49,722 --> 00:14:53,893 you gotta sort of warm them up and make them bigger 330 00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:56,996 and kind of -- and then... 331 00:14:56,996 --> 00:14:59,465 and then say the lines. 332 00:14:59,465 --> 00:15:01,567 Mmm. 333 00:15:01,567 --> 00:15:04,670 SEACREST: Julie Newmar's distinctive interpretation 334 00:15:04,670 --> 00:15:07,439 of Catwoman made her famous almost overnight. 335 00:15:07,439 --> 00:15:10,643 Of course, the skin-tight costume didn't hurt either. 336 00:15:10,643 --> 00:15:13,512 NEWMAR: I moved the belt from the waistline down to the hips 337 00:15:13,512 --> 00:15:16,348 because it was bright gold, 338 00:15:16,348 --> 00:15:21,220 and that way it would accentuate the hips more. 339 00:15:21,220 --> 00:15:23,255 May I? 340 00:15:26,759 --> 00:15:28,827 Meow! 341 00:15:32,164 --> 00:15:35,267 Au revoir, Batman. 342 00:15:35,267 --> 00:15:39,138 NEWMAR: Sometimes if a costume is right, 343 00:15:39,138 --> 00:15:41,974 you don't have to act. 344 00:15:41,974 --> 00:15:44,677 SEACREST: The outfit may have helped Julie Newmar 345 00:15:44,677 --> 00:15:45,911 get into character... 346 00:15:45,911 --> 00:15:47,980 but the Batman and Robin costumes 347 00:15:47,980 --> 00:15:50,182 had the opposite effect on Adam West 348 00:15:50,182 --> 00:15:53,385 and Burt Ward from the very first day. 349 00:15:53,385 --> 00:15:55,287 I'm there, and these two guys were saying, 350 00:15:55,287 --> 00:15:56,755 "Here, take off your clothes." 351 00:15:56,755 --> 00:15:58,490 "Well, why I'm taking off my clothes?" 352 00:15:58,490 --> 00:16:00,559 "Well, we have this to put on you." 353 00:16:00,559 --> 00:16:02,428 "Oh, well, I can't put it on by myself?" 354 00:16:02,428 --> 00:16:04,697 "Well, you're going to need help to get into this." 355 00:16:04,697 --> 00:16:07,866 The most uncomfortable thing I think I've ever 356 00:16:07,866 --> 00:16:11,203 been in in my entire life -- most uncomfortable. 357 00:16:11,203 --> 00:16:13,605 It's like every step I took, it pulled the hair on my leg. 358 00:16:13,605 --> 00:16:16,575 I mean, just really not a great costume. 359 00:16:16,575 --> 00:16:20,512 WEST: Being near-sighted and being behind 360 00:16:20,512 --> 00:16:22,081 those holes in the cowl, 361 00:16:22,081 --> 00:16:23,983 it made it doubly hard to see. 362 00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:28,554 It's an obstacle, and yet it's very helpful. 363 00:16:28,554 --> 00:16:31,657 For example, if I couldn't move my head easily 364 00:16:31,657 --> 00:16:34,793 in that cowl and the way the cape was attached, 365 00:16:34,793 --> 00:16:36,462 then I'd use that. 366 00:16:36,462 --> 00:16:39,665 Remember how Cary Grant moved, kind of... 367 00:16:41,367 --> 00:16:42,401 In other words, 368 00:16:42,401 --> 00:16:44,603 I couldn't turn my head like this. 369 00:16:44,603 --> 00:16:46,472 So I used that. 370 00:16:49,408 --> 00:16:51,977 SEACREST: Every actor playing a superhero 371 00:16:51,977 --> 00:16:53,379 faces a moment of truth 372 00:16:53,379 --> 00:16:55,948 the first time they put on the costume -- 373 00:16:55,948 --> 00:16:59,184 will the people on-set react with a chuckle, 374 00:16:59,184 --> 00:17:00,753 or will they believe? 375 00:17:00,753 --> 00:17:04,156 WEST: I was a little timorous about that, a little... 376 00:17:04,156 --> 00:17:07,693 taken aback with what might occur in that costume 377 00:17:07,693 --> 00:17:10,929 when I walked on the set for the first time. 378 00:17:10,929 --> 00:17:14,633 And I decided I'd walk through pools of light 379 00:17:14,633 --> 00:17:16,935 to get to that spot -- 380 00:17:16,935 --> 00:17:21,774 in the costume -- as much like Batman as I could. 381 00:17:21,774 --> 00:17:24,476 And you know what the hell happened? 382 00:17:24,476 --> 00:17:26,612 I got over there, 383 00:17:26,612 --> 00:17:29,515 and there wasn't a sound. 384 00:17:29,515 --> 00:17:32,985 Everyone believed that I was Batman. 385 00:17:32,985 --> 00:17:35,220 [ Cheering ] 386 00:17:35,220 --> 00:17:37,956 SEACREST: The series became so popular so fast 387 00:17:37,956 --> 00:17:40,859 that Adam West could fill stadiums just by showing up. 388 00:17:40,859 --> 00:17:45,030 But by the time the second season premiered, 389 00:17:45,030 --> 00:17:47,766 problems were already brewing behind the scenes. 390 00:17:47,766 --> 00:17:49,068 Story lines became repetitive, 391 00:17:49,068 --> 00:17:51,670 jokes turned stale. 392 00:17:51,670 --> 00:17:53,205 By the third season, 393 00:17:53,205 --> 00:17:54,840 production budgets were slashed 394 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,575 and ratings declined even further. 395 00:17:57,876 --> 00:18:02,081 The producers' solution was to add a new character -- 396 00:18:02,081 --> 00:18:04,116 Batgirl, played by Yvonne Craig. 397 00:18:05,584 --> 00:18:07,519 ANNOUNCER: Holy femininity! 398 00:18:07,519 --> 00:18:09,121 Batgirl! 399 00:18:09,121 --> 00:18:10,155 Batgirl? 400 00:18:10,155 --> 00:18:11,156 Batgirl. 401 00:18:11,156 --> 00:18:12,624 Batgirl. 402 00:18:14,493 --> 00:18:16,628 SEACREST: Batgirl couldn't save the "Batman" series. 403 00:18:18,997 --> 00:18:21,834 But the character marked an important milestone 404 00:18:21,834 --> 00:18:23,635 as TV's first female superhero. 405 00:18:23,635 --> 00:18:27,372 A spinoff series of "Batgirl" was considered... 406 00:18:27,372 --> 00:18:30,309 but by then, the bat-phenomenon had played out. 407 00:18:30,309 --> 00:18:32,111 It wasn't until seven years later 408 00:18:32,111 --> 00:18:35,514 that a female superhero finally took center stage 409 00:18:35,514 --> 00:18:37,149 with a show of her own. 410 00:18:37,149 --> 00:18:38,784 MAN: Wonder Woman says 411 00:18:38,784 --> 00:18:40,452 she is not afraid. 412 00:18:44,056 --> 00:18:45,691 Fire at will. 413 00:18:47,526 --> 00:18:50,229 [ Drum roll ] 414 00:18:59,071 --> 00:19:01,673 [ Fanfare plays ] 415 00:19:01,673 --> 00:19:05,144 Did you see that, ladies and gentlemen?! 416 00:19:05,144 --> 00:19:07,579 SEACREST: Launched in the mid-1970s 417 00:19:07,579 --> 00:19:10,282 at the height of the women's movement, 418 00:19:10,282 --> 00:19:13,185 "Wonder Woman" had a message of empowerment. 419 00:19:13,185 --> 00:19:15,320 We'll send more agents! 420 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,756 No, the Nazis don't care about their women. 421 00:19:17,756 --> 00:19:19,725 They let you fend for yourself, 422 00:19:19,725 --> 00:19:22,361 and any civilization that does not recognize 423 00:19:22,361 --> 00:19:25,230 the female is doomed to destruction. 424 00:19:25,230 --> 00:19:28,200 Women are the wave of the future, 425 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,968 and sisterhood is... 426 00:19:29,968 --> 00:19:31,637 stronger than anything. 427 00:19:31,637 --> 00:19:33,405 SEACREST: But the more overt 428 00:19:33,405 --> 00:19:35,240 feminine messages didn't last long. 429 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,677 The reason why in subsequent episodes 430 00:19:38,677 --> 00:19:43,448 you didn't hear those kinds of things much anymore 431 00:19:43,448 --> 00:19:45,851 was because of the network. 432 00:19:45,851 --> 00:19:48,120 The network said, "We've got to get... 433 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:50,589 you know, this fem-- you're going to turn off 434 00:19:50,589 --> 00:19:52,858 a lot of people with this feminist talk," 435 00:19:52,858 --> 00:19:55,594 because, you know, feminism was so dangerous. 436 00:19:57,196 --> 00:19:59,298 SEACREST: Even with the toned-down scripts, 437 00:19:59,298 --> 00:20:01,333 Lynda Carter pressed to ensure the series 438 00:20:01,333 --> 00:20:02,968 portrayed positive role models. 439 00:20:02,968 --> 00:20:06,305 Wonder Woman was intelligent, resourceful, 440 00:20:06,305 --> 00:20:07,739 and in control... 441 00:20:07,739 --> 00:20:10,576 often rescuing the show's male lead 442 00:20:10,576 --> 00:20:12,678 played by Lyle Waggoner. 443 00:20:17,082 --> 00:20:18,183 Wonder Woman! 444 00:20:18,183 --> 00:20:19,651 Steve, are you all right? 445 00:20:21,220 --> 00:20:23,455 Wonder Woman, am I glad to see you! 446 00:20:23,455 --> 00:20:25,490 Thanks! 447 00:20:25,490 --> 00:20:27,125 [ Explosion ] 448 00:20:27,125 --> 00:20:29,161 I think he got a little sick of it, 449 00:20:29,161 --> 00:20:30,395 to tell you the truth. 450 00:20:30,395 --> 00:20:31,496 [ Laughs ] 451 00:20:36,201 --> 00:20:38,070 I'll have you free in a few seconds. 452 00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:39,404 I don't blame him! 453 00:20:39,404 --> 00:20:42,441 You know we've been in that role for years. 454 00:20:42,441 --> 00:20:44,076 Are you all right? 455 00:20:44,076 --> 00:20:45,510 Yeah, I'm fine. 456 00:20:45,510 --> 00:20:47,079 My pride's hurt a little bit. 457 00:20:47,079 --> 00:20:49,414 And once again, I'm in your debt, Wonder Woman. 458 00:20:49,414 --> 00:20:51,783 SEACREST: When guest star Bubba Smith 459 00:20:51,783 --> 00:20:53,185 bristled at the notion 460 00:20:53,185 --> 00:20:56,121 of his character losing a fight to Wonder Woman, 461 00:20:56,121 --> 00:20:59,191 Lynda Carter found a subtle way to make her point. 462 00:20:59,191 --> 00:21:01,727 We devised this little plan, 463 00:21:01,727 --> 00:21:04,930 and they taught me how to -- it's really leverage. 464 00:21:04,930 --> 00:21:07,232 We were just going to try to set it up, 465 00:21:07,232 --> 00:21:09,301 but the camera was really rolling. 466 00:21:09,301 --> 00:21:11,236 And so the stunt coordinator goes... 467 00:21:11,236 --> 00:21:13,639 I said, "Okay, I bet you don't think I could this, 468 00:21:13,639 --> 00:21:15,707 but let's just try it, let me just see. 469 00:21:15,707 --> 00:21:17,509 We won't film it." I went -- boomp. 470 00:21:18,977 --> 00:21:20,612 And... 471 00:21:20,612 --> 00:21:22,614 And I -- so Bubba Smith -- 472 00:21:22,614 --> 00:21:24,416 I tossed Bubba Smith -- 473 00:21:24,416 --> 00:21:27,119 the football player. 474 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,322 He was a big guy. 475 00:21:30,322 --> 00:21:31,857 Not too happy. 476 00:21:33,358 --> 00:21:36,328 SEACREST: The "Wonder Woman" TV series was based on 477 00:21:36,328 --> 00:21:38,897 a comic created by William Moulton Marston, 478 00:21:38,897 --> 00:21:41,133 a man who was already well known 479 00:21:41,133 --> 00:21:44,436 as the inventor of the first lie detector test. 480 00:21:44,436 --> 00:21:47,172 A version of Moulton's invention made its way 481 00:21:47,172 --> 00:21:49,975 into the "Wonder Woman" comic book and TV show 482 00:21:49,975 --> 00:21:51,643 as the Lasso of Truth 483 00:21:51,643 --> 00:21:54,112 that compelled villains to speak honestly. 484 00:21:55,347 --> 00:21:56,415 [ Whip cracks ] 485 00:21:58,317 --> 00:21:59,918 What is this?! 486 00:21:59,918 --> 00:22:02,554 Only a little dinky rope, but I can't move! 487 00:22:02,554 --> 00:22:05,057 No one can resist the Golden Lasso. 488 00:22:05,057 --> 00:22:07,225 It binds all who it encircles 489 00:22:07,225 --> 00:22:11,630 and compels them to tell the truth. 490 00:22:13,598 --> 00:22:17,135 SEACREST: When Moulton's comic first came to television 491 00:22:17,135 --> 00:22:18,470 in a 1974 TV movie, 492 00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:21,106 Cathy Lee Crosby played Wonder Woman. 493 00:22:21,106 --> 00:22:24,609 But her blond hair, small frame, and track-suit uniform 494 00:22:24,609 --> 00:22:27,846 strayed far from the original comic book character. 495 00:22:29,748 --> 00:22:31,049 For the TV series, 496 00:22:31,049 --> 00:22:33,285 the producers wanted the embodiment of 497 00:22:33,285 --> 00:22:34,720 the "Wonder Woman" comic, 498 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,122 but finding an actress who could pull it off 499 00:22:37,122 --> 00:22:38,357 was proving difficult, 500 00:22:38,357 --> 00:22:41,026 until they came upon Lynda Carter. 501 00:22:41,026 --> 00:22:43,595 Her earnest attitude and statuesque looks 502 00:22:43,595 --> 00:22:45,931 made her uniquely suited to the role. 503 00:22:45,931 --> 00:22:48,600 CARTER: I will never have another character 504 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,269 that is that memorable. 505 00:22:51,269 --> 00:22:53,572 Very few actors ever have a character 506 00:22:53,572 --> 00:22:56,575 that is that, you know, seared into people's minds. 507 00:22:56,575 --> 00:23:03,181 And I have to say that doing a comic book character 508 00:23:03,181 --> 00:23:05,784 is almost impossible. 509 00:23:05,784 --> 00:23:08,820 And there is a kind of a secret to it. 510 00:23:08,820 --> 00:23:12,591 People want to believe and you have to make it real. 511 00:23:12,591 --> 00:23:16,094 SEACREST: From the beginning, Lynda Carter faced challenges. 512 00:23:16,094 --> 00:23:17,496 First came the costume, 513 00:23:17,496 --> 00:23:19,831 which some thought was too revealing. 514 00:23:20,866 --> 00:23:22,768 I wore less on the beach. 515 00:23:22,768 --> 00:23:26,805 It was the American flag in a one-piece suit. 516 00:23:26,805 --> 00:23:29,908 People thought that I pulled in my waist, I actually didn't. 517 00:23:29,908 --> 00:23:33,478 Because my waist is really small -- 518 00:23:33,478 --> 00:23:35,881 or it was back then. 519 00:23:35,881 --> 00:23:38,784 And the truth is I had them take it out 520 00:23:38,784 --> 00:23:42,687 because I didn't want it to look too, like, hour-glassy. 521 00:23:42,687 --> 00:23:45,524 I know, it's a ridiculous problem to have. 522 00:23:45,524 --> 00:23:46,858 I thought it looked too small. 523 00:23:48,794 --> 00:23:51,263 SEACREST: Acting was also a challenge, 524 00:23:51,263 --> 00:23:54,232 because Lynda Carter was so inexperienced 525 00:23:54,232 --> 00:23:56,034 when she landed the role. 526 00:23:56,034 --> 00:23:58,236 There are a couple of real stinkers 527 00:23:58,236 --> 00:24:00,539 in "Wonder Woman" where I had some -- 528 00:24:00,539 --> 00:24:02,574 they'd gotten me some acting coach 529 00:24:02,574 --> 00:24:05,644 who thought I should really be playing up Wonder Woman. 530 00:24:05,644 --> 00:24:09,181 So I did that, and it was... 531 00:24:09,181 --> 00:24:10,615 They're really awful. 532 00:24:10,615 --> 00:24:12,684 What makes you so strong? 533 00:24:12,684 --> 00:24:16,121 On Paradise Island, there are only women. 534 00:24:16,121 --> 00:24:19,024 Because of this pure environment, 535 00:24:19,024 --> 00:24:20,926 we are able to develop our minds 536 00:24:20,926 --> 00:24:22,260 and our physical skills, 537 00:24:22,260 --> 00:24:25,464 unhampered by masculine destructiveness. 538 00:24:25,464 --> 00:24:26,498 Stop! 539 00:24:26,498 --> 00:24:28,300 Such information is utter rubbish! 540 00:24:30,101 --> 00:24:32,904 SEACREST: Because superhero shows rely so heavily 541 00:24:32,904 --> 00:24:34,573 on a single central character, 542 00:24:34,573 --> 00:24:36,408 production can be taxing on the lead actor... 543 00:24:36,408 --> 00:24:39,611 especially a newcomer like Lynda Carter. 544 00:24:39,611 --> 00:24:42,180 That's why the guest stars were so important. 545 00:24:42,180 --> 00:24:43,849 I've never worked in anything 546 00:24:43,849 --> 00:24:45,884 where I didn't give everything I have. 547 00:24:45,884 --> 00:24:51,389 I named this island Paradise for an excellent reason -- 548 00:24:51,389 --> 00:24:53,558 there are no men on it. 549 00:24:53,558 --> 00:24:55,727 Thus, it is free of their wars, 550 00:24:55,727 --> 00:24:58,330 their greed, their hostilities... 551 00:24:58,330 --> 00:25:05,370 their barbaric masculine behavior. 552 00:25:05,370 --> 00:25:07,239 LEACHMAN: But that to me was funny 553 00:25:07,239 --> 00:25:08,773 even though nobody knew it. 554 00:25:08,773 --> 00:25:10,008 [ Chuckles ] 555 00:25:10,008 --> 00:25:12,444 I remember being in love with Lynda Carter. 556 00:25:12,444 --> 00:25:15,413 You stay and talk, I'll get the car and bring it around. 557 00:25:15,413 --> 00:25:19,317 Butter him up, try to make him tell you his technique. 558 00:25:19,317 --> 00:25:20,652 Uh, Harold? 559 00:25:23,154 --> 00:25:24,656 I drove. 560 00:25:24,656 --> 00:25:28,026 I had bashed my head on the hatchback of my car, 561 00:25:28,026 --> 00:25:30,428 really bad -- I had cut it open, 562 00:25:30,428 --> 00:25:33,031 like, right here, like a third eye. 563 00:25:33,031 --> 00:25:34,733 Because you can see, the make-up man 564 00:25:34,733 --> 00:25:37,302 tried to fix it, but it's like I have a head wound 565 00:25:37,302 --> 00:25:38,637 in the whole show. 566 00:25:38,637 --> 00:25:42,274 And they should have just fired me, but they didn't. 567 00:25:42,274 --> 00:25:44,175 I wonder what kind of surgery 568 00:25:44,175 --> 00:25:46,111 Marcus Welby would call this? 569 00:25:46,111 --> 00:25:47,479 I should have worn a hat or something. 570 00:25:47,479 --> 00:25:49,781 I'd love to see it because I remember looking at it 571 00:25:49,781 --> 00:25:51,049 in the mirror when we shot it. 572 00:25:51,049 --> 00:25:52,951 I went, "This is not even remotely gone." 573 00:25:52,951 --> 00:25:55,387 The make-up man, "No, let me put a little more yellow 574 00:25:55,387 --> 00:25:57,522 to take the red out, put some more powder on." 575 00:25:57,522 --> 00:25:59,090 No, there's a wound on my head. 576 00:25:59,090 --> 00:26:01,493 I loved being with Lynda Carter working on the show 577 00:26:01,493 --> 00:26:03,562 and meeting Ted Shackelford. 578 00:26:03,562 --> 00:26:06,631 I set the coordinates for the demonstration run-through 579 00:26:06,631 --> 00:26:08,233 for Washington, D.C., 1978. 580 00:26:08,233 --> 00:26:09,768 Are there any objections? 581 00:26:09,768 --> 00:26:11,703 No, you're the historian. 582 00:26:11,703 --> 00:26:15,173 It was kind of a rubber outfit. He looked ridiculous, I thought. 583 00:26:15,173 --> 00:26:17,676 They allowed individuals to accumulate 584 00:26:17,676 --> 00:26:19,411 a massive fortune back then. 585 00:26:19,411 --> 00:26:21,146 It will be fascinating to watch 586 00:26:21,146 --> 00:26:23,548 a capitalistic society at work. Uh-huh. 587 00:26:23,548 --> 00:26:27,385 Lots of technical jargon, and we're working in, you know, 588 00:26:27,385 --> 00:26:30,021 things that Blondie here doesn't have a clue what those are. 589 00:26:30,021 --> 00:26:32,324 Ted had to operate all the knobs and the buttons 590 00:26:32,324 --> 00:26:33,992 and the things, and we're trying to 591 00:26:33,992 --> 00:26:35,727 spit out dialogue like this and that. 592 00:26:35,727 --> 00:26:38,063 This day is going to make history. 593 00:26:38,063 --> 00:26:39,698 I can hardly wait to see their faces. 594 00:26:39,698 --> 00:26:41,433 And it's all because of you. 595 00:26:41,433 --> 00:26:43,435 After all, thanks to your genius, 596 00:26:43,435 --> 00:26:45,737 the time portal practically runs itself. 597 00:26:47,639 --> 00:26:50,575 SEACREST: Because female action stars were so rare 598 00:26:50,575 --> 00:26:52,143 in the 1970s, 599 00:26:52,143 --> 00:26:54,813 when Lynda Carter needed a stunt double, 600 00:26:54,813 --> 00:26:57,782 the producers dressed up a man in her costume. 601 00:26:57,782 --> 00:27:00,952 We couldn't have a hairy guy doubling me, you know. 602 00:27:00,952 --> 00:27:02,320 There was just -- 603 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,755 [ Laughs ] 604 00:27:03,755 --> 00:27:05,657 There was one guy... 605 00:27:05,657 --> 00:27:09,561 They had a Russian chair, I think it's called -- 606 00:27:09,561 --> 00:27:11,696 and it's a big swing. 607 00:27:11,696 --> 00:27:13,365 And it's got... 608 00:27:13,365 --> 00:27:15,400 and it launches a person into the air. 609 00:27:19,704 --> 00:27:22,507 He had, like, a hairy chest and everything, 610 00:27:22,507 --> 00:27:23,908 and a wig on. 611 00:27:23,908 --> 00:27:25,744 "Oh, it's gonna be from the back, you'll never see it." 612 00:27:25,744 --> 00:27:27,746 I said, "I can't have... 613 00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:29,981 I can't have" -- 614 00:27:29,981 --> 00:27:33,852 It's like he's got this, like, a guy's square shape, you know. 615 00:27:33,852 --> 00:27:35,286 It's like... 616 00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:43,461 SEACREST: In one scene, Wonder Woman was supposed to 617 00:27:43,461 --> 00:27:44,896 hang on to a helicopter, 618 00:27:44,896 --> 00:27:47,966 but the shot would have clearly revealed the stunt double. 619 00:27:47,966 --> 00:27:51,036 Lynda Carter decided to do the stunt herself. 620 00:27:51,036 --> 00:27:53,171 I said, "Okay, okay, just roll it. 621 00:27:53,171 --> 00:27:54,506 Just roll it!" 622 00:27:57,275 --> 00:28:00,645 And I got up on the thing, and I got on the struts, 623 00:28:00,645 --> 00:28:02,814 but I didn't use the little... 624 00:28:02,814 --> 00:28:05,383 I didn't use the little safety thing. 625 00:28:05,383 --> 00:28:07,419 I didn't know you're supposed to. 626 00:28:07,419 --> 00:28:09,788 And I -- "Just take it up, just go, go, go, 627 00:28:09,788 --> 00:28:12,791 before the sun -- the sun's going down, sun's going down! 628 00:28:12,791 --> 00:28:14,025 Go, go, go, go!" 629 00:28:14,025 --> 00:28:16,661 So they went... and the helicopter went up. 630 00:28:23,768 --> 00:28:25,537 Puts me back down. 631 00:28:25,537 --> 00:28:27,405 I said, "Good, we got the shot." 632 00:28:27,405 --> 00:28:30,809 SEACREST: One slip would have been deadly. 633 00:28:30,809 --> 00:28:34,379 Studio executives, infuriated that their star 634 00:28:34,379 --> 00:28:36,648 might have been injured, made sure Lynda Carter 635 00:28:36,648 --> 00:28:37,682 got a stunt double -- 636 00:28:37,682 --> 00:28:39,784 a female stunt double. 637 00:28:44,856 --> 00:28:47,726 SEACREST: "Wonder Woman" lasted just three seasons, 638 00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:49,928 but it was an important launching pad 639 00:28:49,928 --> 00:28:51,329 for women in television. 640 00:28:51,329 --> 00:28:55,734 It was among the first TV dramas with a female lead 641 00:28:55,734 --> 00:28:57,736 and gave invaluable experience 642 00:28:57,736 --> 00:29:00,538 to a wide range of female writers, producers, 643 00:29:00,538 --> 00:29:01,940 and production people. 644 00:29:01,940 --> 00:29:05,744 And the series launched one other career -- 645 00:29:05,744 --> 00:29:08,012 Wonder Girl, played by Debra Winger. 646 00:29:24,229 --> 00:29:27,799 There were plans for a "Wonder Girl" spinoff series, 647 00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:30,135 but Debra Winger wasn't interested. 648 00:29:30,135 --> 00:29:33,805 And by 1979, the "Wonder Woman" franchise 649 00:29:33,805 --> 00:29:35,440 had left the air. 650 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,043 By then, another superhero was hitting its stride. 651 00:29:40,445 --> 00:29:41,613 As a little boy, 652 00:29:41,613 --> 00:29:44,249 Lou Ferrigno put on a bulky hearing aid 653 00:29:44,249 --> 00:29:45,283 every morning. 654 00:29:45,283 --> 00:29:48,186 The other kids teased him mercilessly, 655 00:29:48,186 --> 00:29:52,223 leading to schoolyard fights that Lou lost. 656 00:29:52,223 --> 00:29:55,093 For comfort, little Lou read comic books, 657 00:29:55,093 --> 00:29:57,495 especially "The Incredible Hulk," 658 00:29:57,495 --> 00:30:00,832 because the Hulk had the power to stand up to bullies. 659 00:30:00,832 --> 00:30:02,467 FERRIGNO: Anytime I felt 660 00:30:02,467 --> 00:30:04,803 devastated, emotionally insecure, 661 00:30:04,803 --> 00:30:06,971 I would just read the comic. 662 00:30:06,971 --> 00:30:10,241 It would give me a lot of inspiration and hope. 663 00:30:10,241 --> 00:30:13,645 SEACREST: But Lou Ferrigno didn't stop there. 664 00:30:13,645 --> 00:30:16,281 He resolved to give himself super strength -- 665 00:30:16,281 --> 00:30:18,383 like his comic book hero. 666 00:30:18,383 --> 00:30:21,719 I got beat up a lot as a kid, so I wanted to be like the Hulk. 667 00:30:21,719 --> 00:30:23,922 I wanted to be so strong, so invincible, 668 00:30:23,922 --> 00:30:26,791 that I could command the same power like the Hulk does. 669 00:30:26,791 --> 00:30:28,760 So that's how the connection began. 670 00:30:30,695 --> 00:30:32,864 SEACREST: By the time he was 22, 671 00:30:32,864 --> 00:30:36,067 Ferrigno had won the Mr. Universe title twice. 672 00:30:37,769 --> 00:30:40,972 When "The Incredible Hulk" TV series went into production, 673 00:30:40,972 --> 00:30:43,908 the producers needed a muscular type for the title role. 674 00:30:43,908 --> 00:30:46,044 They turned to Arnold Schwarzenegger, 675 00:30:46,044 --> 00:30:48,279 but the famed bodybuilder wasn't tall enough, 676 00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:50,081 and so the the producers signed... 677 00:30:50,081 --> 00:30:51,883 Richard Kiel. 678 00:30:51,883 --> 00:30:54,018 FERRIGNO: Originally, Richard Kiel 679 00:30:54,018 --> 00:30:55,286 was playing the Hulk, 680 00:30:55,286 --> 00:30:56,721 but he was too big, 681 00:30:56,721 --> 00:30:59,591 he didn't have the muscles, and he didn't have the look. 682 00:30:59,591 --> 00:31:02,260 So one day, a director came on the set with his son. 683 00:31:02,260 --> 00:31:04,629 And the boy said, "Dad, this is not the Hulk. 684 00:31:04,629 --> 00:31:07,599 The Hulk's gotta look like the character in the comic book." 685 00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:10,802 SEACREST: Even though shooting was well underway, 686 00:31:10,802 --> 00:31:14,472 the producers now realized Kiel wasn't right for the role. 687 00:31:14,472 --> 00:31:16,207 So the part was re-cast -- 688 00:31:16,207 --> 00:31:19,611 with the only person in Hollywood who had the height 689 00:31:19,611 --> 00:31:22,347 and build to play the Incredible Hulk -- 690 00:31:22,347 --> 00:31:23,848 Lou Ferrigno. 691 00:31:23,848 --> 00:31:26,217 FERRIGNO: I had to show all the emotion, become the character, 692 00:31:26,217 --> 00:31:28,286 which I had no experience as an actor, 693 00:31:28,286 --> 00:31:31,189 but I knew the character of the Hulk. 694 00:31:31,189 --> 00:31:34,826 SEACREST: Within hours of landing the role, 695 00:31:34,826 --> 00:31:37,061 Lou Ferrigno was in the green makeup, 696 00:31:37,061 --> 00:31:40,398 working 16 hour days to re-film the pilot. 697 00:31:40,398 --> 00:31:41,933 It wasn't easy. 698 00:31:41,933 --> 00:31:43,434 At 4:00 one morning 699 00:31:43,434 --> 00:31:46,838 in the rain, a scene called for the Hulk to flip a car, 700 00:31:46,838 --> 00:31:49,607 but the steel cable that was supposed to 701 00:31:49,607 --> 00:31:51,209 lift the vehicle broke. 702 00:31:51,209 --> 00:31:53,544 Tired and overworked, Ferrigno wasn't about 703 00:31:53,544 --> 00:31:55,380 to wait for the scene to be reset. 704 00:31:55,380 --> 00:31:57,849 FERRIGNO: They had a car, and the cable snapped, 705 00:31:57,849 --> 00:31:59,684 but I strong enough to hold the car midway 706 00:31:59,684 --> 00:32:01,152 and just flip it over the cliff. 707 00:32:11,596 --> 00:32:13,865 Tell you the truth, 4:00 in the morning, 708 00:32:13,865 --> 00:32:16,801 those eyes, the wig, the teeth, I'm freezing to death. 709 00:32:16,801 --> 00:32:18,903 Do you think I'm not going to turn that car over? 710 00:32:18,903 --> 00:32:20,705 I mean, I think I really became the Hulk. 711 00:32:28,179 --> 00:32:31,416 16 hours of filming and this was like 4:00 in the morning. 712 00:32:31,416 --> 00:32:33,651 I was about to explode, I was so pissed. 713 00:32:33,651 --> 00:32:35,853 And that's why it worked for the scene. 714 00:32:35,853 --> 00:32:38,990 [ Growling ] 715 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,862 SEACREST: For Ferrigno, the biggest challenge 716 00:32:44,862 --> 00:32:47,065 of playing the Hulk was putting on the required 717 00:32:47,065 --> 00:32:49,267 six layers of green makeup, 718 00:32:49,267 --> 00:32:51,269 an uncomfortable process that 719 00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:52,937 took nearly four hours. 720 00:32:52,937 --> 00:32:57,141 Removing the makeup was also a painstaking daily ordeal. 721 00:32:57,141 --> 00:32:58,609 Once, in frustration, 722 00:32:58,609 --> 00:33:00,378 Ferrigno stormed out 723 00:33:00,378 --> 00:33:03,781 and drove home in full makeup and costume. 724 00:33:03,781 --> 00:33:08,486 I'm on the freeway -- the 405 freeway -- driving. 725 00:33:08,486 --> 00:33:10,888 I see another car on the side of me. 726 00:33:10,888 --> 00:33:12,757 The guy is looking at me, so, you know, of course 727 00:33:12,757 --> 00:33:14,225 I looked at him, looked to the right. 728 00:33:14,225 --> 00:33:17,862 His eyes just lighten up, and he said, "Holy shhh!" 729 00:33:17,862 --> 00:33:19,597 He screamed at the top of his lungs 730 00:33:19,597 --> 00:33:21,799 and the poor guy just hit another car. 731 00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:25,003 SEACREST: Ferrigno's Hulk was the alter ego 732 00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:27,271 of mild-mannered David Banner, 733 00:33:27,271 --> 00:33:29,841 played by veteran actor Bill Bixby. 734 00:33:29,841 --> 00:33:32,443 My arm, it's sore. 735 00:33:32,443 --> 00:33:35,079 I remember... 736 00:33:35,079 --> 00:33:38,316 feeling incredibly strong. 737 00:33:40,318 --> 00:33:42,186 It was me. 738 00:33:44,322 --> 00:33:45,857 And it wasn't me. 739 00:33:45,857 --> 00:33:48,326 I-I... 740 00:33:48,326 --> 00:33:50,495 My eyes were white. 741 00:33:50,495 --> 00:33:52,864 SEACREST: Bixby worked to ensure the series 742 00:33:52,864 --> 00:33:54,298 stayed true to the comic 743 00:33:54,298 --> 00:33:57,535 and resisted attempts to make the show more juvenile. 744 00:33:57,535 --> 00:33:59,604 The network, I believe they were talking about 745 00:33:59,604 --> 00:34:02,140 including like Martians, spaceships, and everything. 746 00:34:02,140 --> 00:34:04,742 And Bill wanted to keep the format of the show. 747 00:34:04,742 --> 00:34:07,812 He didn't want the show to look like a silly sci-fi show. 748 00:34:07,812 --> 00:34:09,847 SEACREST: Thanks to Bixby's vigilance, 749 00:34:09,847 --> 00:34:12,016 "The Incredible Hulk" continued to follow 750 00:34:12,016 --> 00:34:13,885 the comic book's original premise. 751 00:34:13,885 --> 00:34:17,021 Scientist David Banner was a force for good... 752 00:34:17,021 --> 00:34:19,223 but he didn't have all the answers, 753 00:34:19,223 --> 00:34:21,426 and he wasn't always in control. 754 00:34:21,426 --> 00:34:24,128 Stop! 755 00:34:24,128 --> 00:34:25,997 For God's sake, 756 00:34:25,997 --> 00:34:27,865 don't do it! 757 00:34:29,801 --> 00:34:32,570 [ Growling ] 758 00:34:51,322 --> 00:34:55,326 SEACREST: The emotionally driven Hulk was a sharp contrast 759 00:34:55,326 --> 00:34:57,361 to previous TV superheroes... 760 00:34:57,361 --> 00:34:59,397 [ Fanfare plays ] 761 00:34:59,397 --> 00:35:00,531 especially the one 762 00:35:00,531 --> 00:35:02,700 who was always in control... 763 00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:06,571 saving the day for humanity starting in 1952. 764 00:35:06,571 --> 00:35:09,207 ANNOUNCER: Faster than a speeding bullet... 765 00:35:11,409 --> 00:35:13,911 More powerful than a locomotive... 766 00:35:14,745 --> 00:35:18,516 Able to leap tall buildings at a single bound. 767 00:35:18,516 --> 00:35:20,651 MAN: Look, up in the sky! It's a bird! 768 00:35:20,651 --> 00:35:21,786 WOMAN: It's a plane! 769 00:35:21,786 --> 00:35:23,054 It's Superman! 770 00:35:23,054 --> 00:35:24,522 ANNOUNCER: Yes, it's Superman, 771 00:35:24,522 --> 00:35:27,158 strange visitor from another planet who came to Earth 772 00:35:27,158 --> 00:35:29,994 with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men! 773 00:35:32,029 --> 00:35:34,031 SEACREST: When young George Reeves appeared 774 00:35:34,031 --> 00:35:35,266 in "Gone with the Wind," 775 00:35:35,266 --> 00:35:38,669 he thought he was on his way to A-list stardom. 776 00:35:38,669 --> 00:35:39,971 He was wrong. 777 00:35:39,971 --> 00:35:41,072 War, war, war. 778 00:35:41,072 --> 00:35:43,141 This war talk's spoiling all the fun 779 00:35:43,141 --> 00:35:44,609 at every party this spring. 780 00:35:44,609 --> 00:35:47,211 I get so bored, I could scream. 781 00:35:47,211 --> 00:35:49,080 Besides, there isn't going to be any war. 782 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,281 Not going to be any war?! 783 00:35:50,281 --> 00:35:52,316 Honey, of course, there's going to be a war. 784 00:35:52,316 --> 00:35:54,552 If either of you boys says "war" just once again, 785 00:35:54,552 --> 00:35:56,387 I'll go in the house and slam the door. 786 00:35:56,387 --> 00:35:59,056 But, Scarlett, honey -- Don't you want us to have a war? 787 00:35:59,056 --> 00:36:03,194 SEACREST: In 1951, Reeves was offered the role 788 00:36:03,194 --> 00:36:04,896 of TV's Superman. 789 00:36:04,896 --> 00:36:06,130 He didn't want it, 790 00:36:06,130 --> 00:36:08,499 thinking television was beneath him. 791 00:36:08,499 --> 00:36:10,535 But without any other prospects, 792 00:36:10,535 --> 00:36:12,236 he reluctantly signed on 793 00:36:12,236 --> 00:36:15,373 playing opposite Phyllis Coates as Lois Lane 794 00:36:15,373 --> 00:36:18,676 and Jack Larson as Jimmy Olsen. 795 00:36:18,676 --> 00:36:20,211 Golly, Superman, 796 00:36:20,211 --> 00:36:22,313 I thought I was a goner for sure. 797 00:36:22,313 --> 00:36:24,815 Sorry to have timed this so close, Jimmy. 798 00:36:24,815 --> 00:36:27,318 Oh, don't be sorry, I'm tickled to death. 799 00:36:27,318 --> 00:36:32,456 I thought this must be a bit tough on George's memories, 800 00:36:32,456 --> 00:36:33,591 being Superman now, 801 00:36:33,591 --> 00:36:36,194 and he'd started off in "Gone with the Wind." 802 00:36:37,495 --> 00:36:40,164 SEACREST: Reeves took an immediate dislike 803 00:36:40,164 --> 00:36:43,334 to the costume -- 20 pounds of wool and fake muscles 804 00:36:43,334 --> 00:36:46,204 that baked in the era before air conditioning. 805 00:36:46,204 --> 00:36:49,507 There was this sponge pad in places, I think, 806 00:36:49,507 --> 00:36:52,910 over his chest, over his shoulders and biceps. 807 00:36:52,910 --> 00:36:55,746 And this made the suit get very hot. 808 00:36:57,248 --> 00:36:59,617 SEACREST: Even worse was the system used 809 00:36:59,617 --> 00:37:01,719 to simulate flight, which involved 810 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,721 hanging Reeves from piano wires. 811 00:37:03,721 --> 00:37:07,058 Early on, the system failed. 812 00:37:07,058 --> 00:37:12,396 The wires broke, and he fell on his super butt... 813 00:37:12,396 --> 00:37:15,533 into this thing -- about five feet. 814 00:37:15,533 --> 00:37:19,870 And he was very upset. 815 00:37:19,870 --> 00:37:23,007 And he got up and brushed himself off like that 816 00:37:23,007 --> 00:37:24,508 and said, "That's it." 817 00:37:24,508 --> 00:37:28,346 He said, "Peter Pan flies on wires," he says, 818 00:37:28,346 --> 00:37:31,682 "but my Superman doesn't fly on wires. 819 00:37:31,682 --> 00:37:36,887 That's the last time I'm ever going to come in on a wire." 820 00:37:38,990 --> 00:37:41,492 SEACREST: Eventually, a better system was developed 821 00:37:41,492 --> 00:37:43,294 to simulate flight, and over time, 822 00:37:43,294 --> 00:37:45,062 Reeves began to warm to the role. 823 00:37:45,062 --> 00:37:47,498 His favorite part of the job -- 824 00:37:47,498 --> 00:37:49,000 crashing through walls. 825 00:37:50,868 --> 00:37:52,870 He liked the walls to pop out. 826 00:37:52,870 --> 00:37:54,872 He'd come in there, and they would pop. 827 00:38:01,579 --> 00:38:03,948 Superman! Am I glad to see you. 828 00:38:03,948 --> 00:38:05,716 Superman, you could have come in through the door! 829 00:38:05,716 --> 00:38:07,718 Well, this seemed a little more spectacular. 830 00:38:07,718 --> 00:38:10,421 SEACREST: The series' other trademark look was 831 00:38:10,421 --> 00:38:12,056 Superman's flying exit... 832 00:38:12,056 --> 00:38:14,425 accomplished with a simple diving board. 833 00:38:19,096 --> 00:38:22,333 He would run, take a leap at the diving board, 834 00:38:22,333 --> 00:38:23,901 and go out the window. 835 00:38:23,901 --> 00:38:25,503 Goodbye, miss. 836 00:38:28,439 --> 00:38:30,274 Golly. 837 00:38:30,274 --> 00:38:32,143 If I could only fly like Superman 838 00:38:32,143 --> 00:38:34,111 instead of taking those hot subways. 839 00:38:35,579 --> 00:38:37,882 SEACREST: "The Adventures of Superman" was a big hit, 840 00:38:37,882 --> 00:38:41,218 thanks largely to Reeves' likeable persona. 841 00:38:41,218 --> 00:38:44,455 His superhero was never worried or upset. 842 00:38:44,455 --> 00:38:45,523 Stay back, Superman. 843 00:38:45,523 --> 00:38:47,058 This ain't no ordinary gun. 844 00:38:47,058 --> 00:38:50,494 SEACREST: Just confident in his ability to deliver justice. 845 00:38:50,494 --> 00:38:52,163 I don't want to hurt anybody, Superman, 846 00:38:52,163 --> 00:38:53,798 not even you, but I will if I have to. 847 00:38:55,533 --> 00:38:57,068 I warned you. 848 00:39:03,140 --> 00:39:04,542 But it's gotta hurt ya. 849 00:39:04,542 --> 00:39:06,744 It's gotta, it can melt cold steel. 850 00:39:08,713 --> 00:39:10,581 SEACREST: Unlike his character, 851 00:39:10,581 --> 00:39:13,417 George Reeves did begin to worry a great deal 852 00:39:13,417 --> 00:39:15,619 about being typecast as Superman. 853 00:39:15,619 --> 00:39:19,190 And his fear was realized when acting jobs dried up 854 00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:22,259 as the series rolled into its final season. 855 00:39:22,259 --> 00:39:25,996 Reeves drank heavily and left his longtime love, 856 00:39:25,996 --> 00:39:28,733 Toni Mannix, for a younger woman. 857 00:39:28,733 --> 00:39:31,602 He said to me, "Well, I met another woman." 858 00:39:31,602 --> 00:39:38,876 And he said, "And she makes me feel like a boy again." 859 00:39:38,876 --> 00:39:42,947 Well, there's no commenting on that. 860 00:39:42,947 --> 00:39:44,815 The only line is, "You fool!" 861 00:39:48,018 --> 00:39:51,655 SEACREST: Here in his home on Benedict Canyon 862 00:39:51,655 --> 00:39:53,290 on June 16th, 1959, 863 00:39:53,290 --> 00:39:57,895 George Reeves died of a gunshot wound. 864 00:39:57,895 --> 00:40:01,966 To this day, no one is quite sure how it happened. 865 00:40:01,966 --> 00:40:05,636 His death remains one of Hollywood's greatest mysteries. 866 00:40:05,636 --> 00:40:07,738 It was a front-page story all over the world. 867 00:40:07,738 --> 00:40:12,443 SEACREST: The coroner ruled Reeve's death a suicide, 868 00:40:12,443 --> 00:40:15,146 but rumors swirled that the jilted Toni Mannix 869 00:40:15,146 --> 00:40:16,447 was somehow involved. 870 00:40:16,447 --> 00:40:19,350 [ Flashbulbs popping ] 871 00:40:19,350 --> 00:40:21,385 In a bizarre twist, 872 00:40:21,385 --> 00:40:24,021 Toni secretly revisited the crime scene 873 00:40:24,021 --> 00:40:25,556 shortly after the death 874 00:40:25,556 --> 00:40:28,626 and asked Jack Larson to join her. 875 00:40:28,626 --> 00:40:31,061 LARSON: And we go into the house. 876 00:40:31,061 --> 00:40:32,763 And we didn't talk much. 877 00:40:32,763 --> 00:40:35,199 We went up these stairs. 878 00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:36,801 In the bathtub 879 00:40:36,801 --> 00:40:39,503 were these bloody sheets. 880 00:40:39,503 --> 00:40:43,407 The police had taken the sheets off the bed 881 00:40:43,407 --> 00:40:45,443 where George had died. 882 00:40:45,443 --> 00:40:50,781 They were all blood -- you know, deep-brown with blood, 883 00:40:50,781 --> 00:40:55,052 that, and a lot of blood into the bathtub. 884 00:40:55,052 --> 00:40:57,154 And I started to feel sick. 885 00:40:57,154 --> 00:40:59,457 SEACREST: When Larson turned around, 886 00:40:59,457 --> 00:41:01,892 he saw Toni Mannix on the bedroom floor 887 00:41:01,892 --> 00:41:04,562 examining two small bullet holes. 888 00:41:04,562 --> 00:41:06,931 Why would the site of a suicide 889 00:41:06,931 --> 00:41:08,833 have multiple bullet holes? 890 00:41:08,833 --> 00:41:11,936 And how would Toni Mannix know where to find them? 891 00:41:11,936 --> 00:41:14,472 Jack Larson wasn't looking for answers, 892 00:41:14,472 --> 00:41:16,507 he just wanted to leave. 893 00:41:16,507 --> 00:41:20,478 At that point, I said, "Toni, I have to leave. 894 00:41:20,478 --> 00:41:22,012 I'm getting ill, 895 00:41:22,012 --> 00:41:23,881 and I have to leave." 896 00:41:23,881 --> 00:41:25,449 And so she said, "Okay, Junior." 897 00:41:25,449 --> 00:41:27,518 SEACREST: Back in the car, 898 00:41:27,518 --> 00:41:31,222 Toni Mannix gave Jack Larson her final thoughts 899 00:41:31,222 --> 00:41:33,157 on George Reeves' death. 900 00:41:33,157 --> 00:41:36,460 LARSON: And she leaned back in her car. 901 00:41:36,460 --> 00:41:39,096 And she always talked like Jean Harlow. 902 00:41:39,096 --> 00:41:44,835 And she said, "I never would have believed 903 00:41:44,835 --> 00:41:47,538 that my love affair 904 00:41:47,538 --> 00:41:50,674 would have turned into tragedy." 905 00:41:53,777 --> 00:41:55,513 SEACREST: While the final moments 906 00:41:55,513 --> 00:41:57,515 of George Reeves' life remain cloudy... 907 00:41:57,515 --> 00:41:59,283 [ Gunshots ] 908 00:41:59,283 --> 00:42:01,485 his legacy is clear -- 909 00:42:01,485 --> 00:42:04,989 George Reeves opened the door for TV superheroes. 910 00:42:12,930 --> 00:42:14,465 Next! 911 00:42:14,465 --> 00:42:16,400 SEACREST: Two decades after "Superman" 912 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,535 went out of production, 913 00:42:17,535 --> 00:42:19,937 the genre got a major reboot 914 00:42:19,937 --> 00:42:23,240 with a very different kind of superhero, 915 00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:27,244 from TV's most prolific producer, Stephen J. Cannell. 916 00:42:27,244 --> 00:42:29,179 If I'm going to do a superhero show. 917 00:42:29,179 --> 00:42:31,882 I'm not just going to have a guy from a distant planet 918 00:42:31,882 --> 00:42:33,551 who comes to earth in a meteor 919 00:42:33,551 --> 00:42:36,053 and starts solving other people's problems. 920 00:42:36,053 --> 00:42:38,589 My characters tend to be underdogs. 921 00:42:38,589 --> 00:42:41,158 I much prefer the flaws to the strengths. 922 00:42:41,158 --> 00:42:45,062 As a writer, I'd much rather write about a character 923 00:42:45,062 --> 00:42:47,665 who can't get out of his own way 924 00:42:47,665 --> 00:42:50,367 and yet manages to succeed anyway 925 00:42:50,367 --> 00:42:52,770 than one who is the smartest guy in town. 926 00:42:53,837 --> 00:42:57,741 We have to go and not wait until it's too -- 927 00:42:57,741 --> 00:42:59,276 Oh, hi. 928 00:42:59,276 --> 00:43:00,611 Oh, I'm sorry. 929 00:43:00,611 --> 00:43:02,346 I didn't know the bathroom was in use. 930 00:43:02,346 --> 00:43:03,781 Oh, yeah, I'm... 931 00:43:03,781 --> 00:43:04,782 We can come back. 932 00:43:04,782 --> 00:43:06,283 No, that's all right. I'm leaving, 933 00:43:06,283 --> 00:43:09,119 I just needed to get this cape attached to my... 934 00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:10,788 Look, I know this seems really nuts, 935 00:43:10,788 --> 00:43:11,855 but I'm not... 936 00:43:11,855 --> 00:43:13,057 See, what I'm doing here is 937 00:43:13,057 --> 00:43:14,592 I'm late for a court appearance. 938 00:43:14,592 --> 00:43:16,994 Look, it's okay. It's okay, really. 939 00:43:16,994 --> 00:43:18,429 Look, we're all through anyway. 940 00:43:18,429 --> 00:43:20,130 No, it's all right! No, don't touch us! 941 00:43:22,533 --> 00:43:24,768 SEACREST: Stephen J. Cannell created 942 00:43:24,768 --> 00:43:26,270 "Greatest American Hero," 943 00:43:26,270 --> 00:43:29,206 the story of a high-school teacher, Ralph Hinkley, 944 00:43:29,206 --> 00:43:32,309 who gets a suit that gives him superpowers... 945 00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:35,079 but then he loses the instruction manual. 946 00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:36,714 Okay... 947 00:43:36,714 --> 00:43:38,148 Okay. 948 00:43:38,148 --> 00:43:39,216 Last night, 949 00:43:39,216 --> 00:43:40,784 I was approached by a flying saucer 950 00:43:40,784 --> 00:43:42,186 out in the desert. 951 00:43:42,186 --> 00:43:44,955 Anyway... this saucer, 952 00:43:44,955 --> 00:43:47,591 they talked to us over the car radio. 953 00:43:47,591 --> 00:43:49,994 And Bill's partner -- he's a G-man -- 954 00:43:49,994 --> 00:43:51,662 he came out of the saucer, but he was dead. 955 00:43:51,662 --> 00:43:53,464 And he had this package under his arm, 956 00:43:53,464 --> 00:43:54,465 and he gave it to me. 957 00:43:54,465 --> 00:43:57,468 And... 958 00:43:57,468 --> 00:43:59,269 There were instructions on how to use the suit, 959 00:43:59,269 --> 00:44:01,605 but I lost them. 960 00:44:01,605 --> 00:44:04,241 The hook was, he's gonna lose the instruction book 961 00:44:04,241 --> 00:44:06,844 and he's not going to know how to use the powers. 962 00:44:06,844 --> 00:44:10,614 So it's going to be, you know, 963 00:44:10,614 --> 00:44:13,684 some of the comedy will come from the fact that 964 00:44:13,684 --> 00:44:16,587 he has to discover, along with the audience, 965 00:44:16,587 --> 00:44:17,888 how the suit works. 966 00:44:17,888 --> 00:44:19,923 What could be more perfect 967 00:44:19,923 --> 00:44:22,726 than having a high-school teacher 968 00:44:22,726 --> 00:44:26,030 thrust into the role of being a superhero 969 00:44:26,030 --> 00:44:28,799 and yet being put at the disadvantage 970 00:44:28,799 --> 00:44:31,135 of not knowing how to work it? 971 00:44:31,135 --> 00:44:32,603 Not knowing how to fly, 972 00:44:32,603 --> 00:44:35,739 not knowing how to work the magic of the red suit. 973 00:44:35,739 --> 00:44:38,242 You're not doing it right. 974 00:44:38,242 --> 00:44:40,310 You've gotta run, like, three steps 975 00:44:40,310 --> 00:44:42,846 and jump with your hands out in front of you. 976 00:44:42,846 --> 00:44:44,114 Oh. 977 00:44:44,114 --> 00:44:45,649 See, I've never done this before. 978 00:44:45,649 --> 00:44:47,651 My daddy's calling the police. 979 00:44:47,651 --> 00:44:50,287 Terrific. 980 00:44:50,287 --> 00:44:52,289 Uh, three steps, huh? 981 00:44:55,426 --> 00:44:58,796 [ Screaming ] 982 00:45:05,335 --> 00:45:07,838 SEACREST: When he signed on to do the show, 983 00:45:07,838 --> 00:45:09,373 actor William Katt imagined 984 00:45:09,373 --> 00:45:11,842 he'd be playing a superhero like Iron Man. 985 00:45:11,842 --> 00:45:13,310 Then he saw the costume 986 00:45:13,310 --> 00:45:16,146 that producer Stephen J. Cannell had in mind. 987 00:45:16,146 --> 00:45:18,215 I just thought it would look better. 988 00:45:18,215 --> 00:45:20,718 But when he said, "You ready to see the suit?" 989 00:45:20,718 --> 00:45:23,053 I said, "Sure," so he shows me the suit -- 990 00:45:23,053 --> 00:45:24,922 the designer comes out and holds it up. 991 00:45:24,922 --> 00:45:28,826 And I was just mortified because 992 00:45:28,826 --> 00:45:32,096 it wasn't as cool as everything that you see now. 993 00:45:32,096 --> 00:45:34,565 It sagged in all the wrong places. 994 00:45:34,565 --> 00:45:38,302 So when I put it on, in the pilot, 995 00:45:38,302 --> 00:45:40,170 when I turn around and I look in the mirror 996 00:45:40,170 --> 00:45:42,840 and I look at myself, I'm mortified. 997 00:45:45,375 --> 00:45:48,445 And that's Bill Katt looking at himself -- 998 00:45:48,445 --> 00:45:52,649 the actor Bill Katt saying, "There goes my career." 999 00:45:52,649 --> 00:45:55,786 And that's what I was feeling at the time. 1000 00:46:00,691 --> 00:46:03,794 He's running around in spandex and a cape, 1001 00:46:03,794 --> 00:46:07,197 you know, that's my -- that's gonna be my hero. 1002 00:46:07,197 --> 00:46:09,399 Stephen got the biggest kick in the world 1003 00:46:09,399 --> 00:46:11,502 out of watching me squirm in that suit. 1004 00:46:11,502 --> 00:46:13,337 He just thought I was -- 1005 00:46:13,337 --> 00:46:15,305 he was tickled constantly. 1006 00:46:15,305 --> 00:46:17,174 He laughed, and he'd go, 1007 00:46:17,174 --> 00:46:19,610 "I'm glad I don't have to wear that thing." 1008 00:46:21,311 --> 00:46:24,982 SEACREST: A reluctant hero needs someone to prod him along. 1009 00:46:24,982 --> 00:46:26,483 In "Greatest American Hero," 1010 00:46:26,483 --> 00:46:28,886 that role was filled by Robert Culp 1011 00:46:28,886 --> 00:46:30,988 who saw the series as a retelling 1012 00:46:30,988 --> 00:46:33,590 of the ancient legend of Arthur and Merlin. 1013 00:46:33,590 --> 00:46:36,860 Merlin was a pretty tough cookie -- 1014 00:46:36,860 --> 00:46:41,098 Merlin is me as Bill Maxwell, 1015 00:46:41,098 --> 00:46:44,434 the super gung-ho jerk. 1016 00:46:44,434 --> 00:46:48,772 But it's still Merlin -- in his negativity -- 1017 00:46:48,772 --> 00:46:50,974 telling Arthur what to do, 1018 00:46:50,974 --> 00:46:55,612 and Arthur fighting back with all of his charm and warmth 1019 00:46:55,612 --> 00:46:59,116 and his down-to-earth nice guy qualities 1020 00:46:59,116 --> 00:47:01,885 that is the foundation of the story. 1021 00:47:01,885 --> 00:47:04,288 There's something you gotta know about me, 1022 00:47:04,288 --> 00:47:06,423 I'm by the book -- always have been, 1023 00:47:06,423 --> 00:47:08,258 always will be -- by the book. 1024 00:47:08,258 --> 00:47:10,327 And it really bends my frame 1025 00:47:10,327 --> 00:47:12,930 when things get over into the margins. 1026 00:47:12,930 --> 00:47:16,099 The margins! I'd say we're clear off the page here. 1027 00:47:16,099 --> 00:47:18,168 Just wait a second... 1028 00:47:18,168 --> 00:47:20,604 SEACREST: Robert Culp was already an accomplished actor, 1029 00:47:20,604 --> 00:47:21,972 but in "Greatest American Hero," 1030 00:47:21,972 --> 00:47:23,941 he played a sidekick to the less-experienced 1031 00:47:23,941 --> 00:47:25,342 William Katt, 1032 00:47:25,342 --> 00:47:28,912 a situation that led to some conflict at first. 1033 00:47:28,912 --> 00:47:31,915 We truly did not like each other when we first met. 1034 00:47:31,915 --> 00:47:34,685 I mean, there was some real friction there, 1035 00:47:34,685 --> 00:47:36,119 and remarkably enough, 1036 00:47:36,119 --> 00:47:39,656 it was just another one of those things that it worked -- 1037 00:47:39,656 --> 00:47:42,559 because the two characters were not supposed to like each other, 1038 00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:44,161 and we didn't like each other. 1039 00:47:44,161 --> 00:47:45,963 And I don't think you're my kind of guy, 1040 00:47:45,963 --> 00:47:47,698 nothing personal, just a fact of life. 1041 00:47:47,698 --> 00:47:49,166 All this is kind of an apology 1042 00:47:49,166 --> 00:47:50,734 for running out on you last night. 1043 00:47:50,734 --> 00:47:52,069 That's not my style either, 1044 00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:53,737 definitely not. 1045 00:47:53,737 --> 00:47:55,906 So...ahem. 1046 00:47:55,906 --> 00:47:57,074 I apologize. 1047 00:47:57,074 --> 00:47:59,176 It's high on my all-time list of favorites. 1048 00:47:59,176 --> 00:48:00,944 Listen, you gotta go, I got a class. 1049 00:48:00,944 --> 00:48:07,150 And nobody was doing as unique a style of comedy as I was, 1050 00:48:07,150 --> 00:48:09,019 and it was like I wasn't even there. 1051 00:48:09,019 --> 00:48:12,823 Yeah, really got me a live one here. 1052 00:48:12,823 --> 00:48:13,924 Oh, boy. 1053 00:48:13,924 --> 00:48:15,225 Look, I gotta go. 1054 00:48:15,225 --> 00:48:16,927 Listen, you call me in a couple of days. 1055 00:48:16,927 --> 00:48:19,029 If I figure out how to make it work, we can meet then. 1056 00:48:19,029 --> 00:48:22,933 We'll figure it out now, butterfingers. 1057 00:48:22,933 --> 00:48:24,534 And the next time I tell you something, 1058 00:48:24,534 --> 00:48:26,336 the only thing I want to hear out of you is, 1059 00:48:26,336 --> 00:48:28,405 "Yes, sir" or "How soon?" 1060 00:48:28,405 --> 00:48:29,740 That's all, that's it, 1061 00:48:29,740 --> 00:48:31,475 that's the basic drill. 1062 00:48:31,475 --> 00:48:35,479 I think Bob wanted to have first billing, you know. 1063 00:48:35,479 --> 00:48:39,283 And I think that that was a big problem initially. 1064 00:48:39,283 --> 00:48:41,618 And I kept saying, "Bob, it's not 1065 00:48:41,618 --> 00:48:44,922 'The Greatest American Hero and Friends,' you know, 1066 00:48:44,922 --> 00:48:48,258 it's 'Greatest American Hero.'" 1067 00:48:48,258 --> 00:48:50,727 But he was a really good sport, 1068 00:48:50,727 --> 00:48:54,731 and, you know, we worked that out fairly quickly. 1069 00:48:57,634 --> 00:49:00,604 SEACREST: In time, Katt and Culp became close friends 1070 00:49:00,604 --> 00:49:02,773 and, along with co-star Connie Sellecca, 1071 00:49:02,773 --> 00:49:06,109 they helped build a superhero show that aimed high. 1072 00:49:06,109 --> 00:49:08,745 But that wasn't what ABC wanted. 1073 00:49:08,745 --> 00:49:11,448 It was more satirical in nature 1074 00:49:11,448 --> 00:49:14,885 and more of a highbrow approach to comedy. 1075 00:49:14,885 --> 00:49:16,620 And the powers-that-be 1076 00:49:16,620 --> 00:49:20,524 at the networks, they wanted to cater more to kids. 1077 00:49:20,524 --> 00:49:23,794 SEACREST: Eventually, the network got its way 1078 00:49:23,794 --> 00:49:27,631 and Ralph began chasing down space aliens and sea monsters. 1079 00:49:27,631 --> 00:49:28,665 Come on, Ralph, what is it?! 1080 00:49:28,665 --> 00:49:29,666 Okay. 1081 00:49:29,666 --> 00:49:31,034 Voila! 1082 00:49:33,103 --> 00:49:34,404 Surprised, aren't you, Bill? 1083 00:49:34,404 --> 00:49:37,574 Uh... 1084 00:49:37,574 --> 00:49:39,543 Uh, this is it? 1085 00:49:39,543 --> 00:49:40,711 The "it" it? 1086 00:49:40,711 --> 00:49:43,814 The "it" that you were talking to me about. 1087 00:49:43,814 --> 00:49:45,148 Mm-hmm. 1088 00:49:45,148 --> 00:49:49,252 SEACREST: After "Greatest American Hero's" network run, 1089 00:49:49,252 --> 00:49:51,221 William Katt faced the same problem 1090 00:49:51,221 --> 00:49:53,657 that challenged George Reeves and Adam West -- 1091 00:49:53,657 --> 00:49:55,892 typecasting. 1092 00:49:55,892 --> 00:49:57,928 KATT: When I did "Greatest American Hero," 1093 00:49:57,928 --> 00:49:59,796 it really put the brakes on 1094 00:49:59,796 --> 00:50:02,332 a lot of work that I did on stage, 1095 00:50:02,332 --> 00:50:05,402 because now, I was "That guy in the red suit," you know. 1096 00:50:05,402 --> 00:50:07,971 And it took many, many years to get over that. 1097 00:50:07,971 --> 00:50:11,942 SEACREST: Nearly every actor who's played a TV superhero 1098 00:50:11,942 --> 00:50:14,611 has passed through the same stages. 1099 00:50:14,611 --> 00:50:17,280 First, they're happy to have the work... 1100 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,049 then, when the series ends, 1101 00:50:19,049 --> 00:50:21,952 they feel the frustration of being typecast. 1102 00:50:21,952 --> 00:50:24,521 Later, there is reconciliation, 1103 00:50:24,521 --> 00:50:26,923 when the actor embraces the superhero 1104 00:50:26,923 --> 00:50:30,193 and comes to realize what the public already knows -- 1105 00:50:30,193 --> 00:50:34,297 superheroes are beloved, not just for a few years, 1106 00:50:34,297 --> 00:50:37,401 but for generation after generation. 1107 00:50:37,401 --> 00:50:41,938 I decided myself that we were pioneers in television. 1108 00:50:41,938 --> 00:50:43,273 You always love superheroes. 1109 00:50:43,273 --> 00:50:45,108 You always love villains and heroes. 1110 00:50:45,108 --> 00:50:47,210 There was a heart in "Batman" 1111 00:50:47,210 --> 00:50:50,280 that it will always be on that celluloid, 1112 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:51,982 and will never be lost. 1113 00:50:51,982 --> 00:50:55,519 What I tried to bring was something fresh 1114 00:50:55,519 --> 00:51:00,490 and something people had never seen as a dimension of Batman. 1115 00:51:00,490 --> 00:51:04,227 I love being identified with Catwoman. 1116 00:51:04,227 --> 00:51:06,096 And one of the main reasons 1117 00:51:06,096 --> 00:51:08,932 is that there will always be a Catwoman. 1118 00:51:08,932 --> 00:51:11,601 CARTER: They didn't think that a woman could hold a show. 1119 00:51:11,601 --> 00:51:14,838 "Wonder Woman" represented a lot of breakthroughs. 1120 00:51:14,838 --> 00:51:16,740 It's just like lightning in a bottle 1121 00:51:16,740 --> 00:51:18,675 when you get the right cast together. 1122 00:51:18,675 --> 00:51:20,811 You just -- you can't explain it. 1123 00:51:20,811 --> 00:51:22,446 It just works. 1124 00:51:22,446 --> 00:51:25,282 It tells you something about our culture 1125 00:51:25,282 --> 00:51:27,250 and what people really enjoy, 1126 00:51:27,250 --> 00:51:29,886 what people are more fixated on, 1127 00:51:29,886 --> 00:51:31,054 what grabs them. 1128 00:51:31,054 --> 00:51:33,023 They feel safe when they watch "The Hulk." 1129 00:51:33,023 --> 00:51:34,391 The Hulk makes them feel safe. 1130 00:51:34,391 --> 00:51:36,226 It's kind of like a green Santa Claus. 1131 00:51:36,226 --> 00:51:40,597 So what you had was a generation of women my age 1132 00:51:40,597 --> 00:51:44,301 that had mothers that were saying, "You can do 1133 00:51:44,301 --> 00:51:47,003 whatever you set your mind to." 1134 00:51:47,003 --> 00:51:50,340 We used to say, "We put on our tights to put on the world." 1135 00:51:51,875 --> 00:51:53,977 SEACREST: Together, they helped create 1136 00:51:53,977 --> 00:51:57,180 our culture's most enduring characters -- 1137 00:51:57,180 --> 00:51:59,916 the superheroes. 1138 00:51:59,916 --> 00:52:04,254 They are the "Pioneers of Television." 1139 00:54:12,682 --> 00:54:14,651 have a different take. 1140 00:54:14,651 --> 00:54:17,621 They're a different animal. 1141 00:54:17,621 --> 00:54:19,756 Whereas, you know, we were fun, funny, 1142 00:54:19,756 --> 00:54:21,157 and for the entire family, 1143 00:54:21,157 --> 00:54:23,560 these things are more gothic, 1144 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:28,398 and I think they try to explore emotional levels, possibly, 1145 00:54:28,398 --> 00:54:30,400 that we didn't. 1146 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:35,005 But all I see is -- they're different. 1147 00:54:35,005 --> 00:54:36,940 I did the bright knight. 1148 00:54:36,940 --> 00:54:40,844 They're doing the dark knight. 1149 00:54:40,844 --> 00:54:44,047 For more insider features about your favorite TV stars, 1150 00:54:44,047 --> 00:54:46,182 stories you won't hear anywhere else, 1151 00:54:46,182 --> 00:54:48,752 visit 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