1 00:00:07,201 --> 00:00:09,236 Since this is PBS, good luck using this. 2 00:00:09,304 --> 00:00:10,637 You should be TV star! 3 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:11,705 Oh, no, too much pressure 4 00:00:11,773 --> 00:00:13,173 and you have to get up too early. 5 00:00:13,241 --> 00:00:15,475 I don't think there's anyone here who isn't aware 6 00:00:15,543 --> 00:00:17,611 that this is a little special moment in time. 7 00:00:17,679 --> 00:00:19,346 For once, I am not going to be Jan Brady. 8 00:00:19,414 --> 00:00:20,714 I'm going to be Marsha, damn it. 9 00:00:20,782 --> 00:00:21,949 Oh, my nose! 10 00:00:22,016 --> 00:00:23,283 I came out to be funny. 11 00:00:23,351 --> 00:00:24,618 Here I am! 12 00:00:24,686 --> 00:00:25,719 I don't think anybody else 13 00:00:25,787 --> 00:00:27,120 on the show was trying to do that. 14 00:00:27,188 --> 00:00:30,557 Pure dyn-o-mite! 15 00:00:34,529 --> 00:00:37,631 Oh, god, I wish Ethel was here to see this. 16 00:00:37,699 --> 00:00:40,067 I'm willing to be silly and dumb and foolish 17 00:00:40,134 --> 00:00:41,268 and fall on my ass. 18 00:00:41,336 --> 00:00:43,203 Why on earth you'd want to go out with a man 19 00:00:43,271 --> 00:00:44,271 you know nothing about. 20 00:00:44,339 --> 00:00:45,973 Hello. 21 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,009 Oh. 22 00:00:49,077 --> 00:00:50,911 I got lucky. I won the lottery. 23 00:01:01,122 --> 00:01:03,490 Pioneers of Television was made possible 24 00:01:03,558 --> 00:01:06,059 contributions to your PBS station 25 00:01:06,127 --> 00:01:07,894 from viewers like you. 26 00:01:10,965 --> 00:01:12,933 They played the doctors and nurses we watched every week. 27 00:01:13,001 --> 00:01:15,135 It's still in people's consciousness from that time. 28 00:01:15,203 --> 00:01:16,336 You know, people, "Didi-didi." 29 00:01:16,404 --> 00:01:17,671 "You mean nanu-nanu." "Yeah, that's it." 30 00:01:17,739 --> 00:01:18,672 Nanu-nanu! 31 00:01:18,740 --> 00:01:20,173 Oh! 32 00:01:20,241 --> 00:01:22,209 I grew up in a house where we watched a lot of comedy 33 00:01:22,276 --> 00:01:23,910 and we would then go around and imitate it. 34 00:01:23,978 --> 00:01:25,679 -You think I'm funny? -You're funny! 35 00:01:25,747 --> 00:01:27,714 You think so? 'Cause people say I'm funny, 36 00:01:27,782 --> 00:01:31,785 but it's like, aaagh, I don't see it, you know? 37 00:01:31,853 --> 00:01:34,421 You got to get messy in comedy. 38 00:01:34,489 --> 00:01:35,922 It's got to be ugly. 39 00:01:35,990 --> 00:01:37,824 You've got to take the pie. 40 00:01:37,892 --> 00:01:42,829 I rate it "D" for dyn-o-mite! 41 00:01:42,897 --> 00:01:46,566 Their acting skills amused a generation. 42 00:01:46,634 --> 00:01:51,038 I didn't think about being funny in those days. 43 00:01:51,105 --> 00:01:52,406 Just thought about being an actress. 44 00:01:52,473 --> 00:01:54,675 Physical pieces that I would put in, 45 00:01:54,742 --> 00:01:56,910 and by the time it got to showtime, 46 00:01:56,978 --> 00:01:59,046 we were so excited it present it. 47 00:01:59,113 --> 00:02:01,048 What can I do to make you like me? 48 00:02:01,115 --> 00:02:04,484 Get off the stage. 49 00:02:06,621 --> 00:02:08,288 It's two crazy guys, you know, 50 00:02:08,356 --> 00:02:10,957 that have just been released from a major hospital. 51 00:02:11,025 --> 00:02:17,698 [Babbling] 52 00:02:17,765 --> 00:02:19,800 Sometimes method acting can be like urinating 53 00:02:19,867 --> 00:02:21,001 in brown corduroy pants -- 54 00:02:21,069 --> 00:02:22,669 you feel fabulous, we see nothing. 55 00:02:22,737 --> 00:02:25,439 You have to think, "I know what this is about, 56 00:02:25,506 --> 00:02:27,941 but how can I do it in a more interesting 57 00:02:28,009 --> 00:02:29,276 or fresher way?" 58 00:02:29,343 --> 00:02:32,279 I really admire you, 59 00:02:32,346 --> 00:02:34,081 for having the nerve to stay here 60 00:02:34,148 --> 00:02:35,949 after that humiliating experience. 61 00:02:36,017 --> 00:02:37,484 [Laughter] 62 00:02:37,552 --> 00:02:40,153 Together they brought comedy acting 63 00:02:40,221 --> 00:02:41,688 to the television age. 64 00:02:41,756 --> 00:02:45,158 They are the pioneers of television. 65 00:02:51,866 --> 00:02:53,767 In the late 1970s, 66 00:02:53,835 --> 00:02:56,703 Robin Williams took television by storm 67 00:02:56,771 --> 00:02:58,972 with a different approach to comedy, 68 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,142 a manic style he showcased on Mork & Mindy. 69 00:03:02,210 --> 00:03:03,977 So, you're from outer space. 70 00:03:04,045 --> 00:03:05,712 Yes, you mind if I take a few pictures 71 00:03:05,780 --> 00:03:07,247 for the folks on the home planet? 72 00:03:07,315 --> 00:03:08,815 They'd like to get some postcards. 73 00:03:08,883 --> 00:03:09,816 [Laughter] 74 00:03:09,884 --> 00:03:11,184 No. 75 00:03:11,252 --> 00:03:13,120 Okay, watch the blookie. 76 00:03:13,187 --> 00:03:15,856 [Laughter] 77 00:03:15,923 --> 00:03:19,226 It came at a time when people were going, "What's this?" 78 00:03:19,293 --> 00:03:21,461 And we got lucky, and then it was just this thing of -- 79 00:03:21,529 --> 00:03:23,663 it became every Thursday night, people going -- 80 00:03:23,731 --> 00:03:25,632 they wanted to see how crazy it would be. 81 00:03:25,700 --> 00:03:28,168 -Like to buy a record? -I'm just kind of browsing. 82 00:03:28,236 --> 00:03:30,270 Let's offer you a special deal, new from Hotel, 83 00:03:30,338 --> 00:03:31,772 Marcel Marceau's greatest hits. 84 00:03:31,839 --> 00:03:34,474 Who can ever forget "Man Ascending an Escalator"? 85 00:03:34,542 --> 00:03:36,977 "Man Watching the World's Largest Staircase"? 86 00:03:37,044 --> 00:03:38,478 There he goes walking across it now. 87 00:03:38,546 --> 00:03:40,413 Let's just forget the vinyl see the other exciting things 88 00:03:40,481 --> 00:03:42,349 you get free with this -- look, it can be a hand glove. 89 00:03:42,416 --> 00:03:44,017 It also can dice, slice, and make julienne fries. 90 00:03:44,085 --> 00:03:46,319 [Laughter] 91 00:03:46,387 --> 00:03:49,823 It can also be a party favor, a King Tut hat, who knew? 92 00:03:49,891 --> 00:03:51,792 Also a puppet for a two-dimensional child. 93 00:03:51,859 --> 00:03:53,727 Hi, Mom, nice to have you home. 94 00:03:53,795 --> 00:03:57,998 Long before his breakout hit, Robin Williams had spent years 95 00:03:58,065 --> 00:04:01,134 honing his skills, beginning with a class 96 00:04:01,202 --> 00:04:03,904 he took in a new kind of comedy performance 97 00:04:03,971 --> 00:04:05,539 called improvisation. 98 00:04:05,606 --> 00:04:07,941 And it was this beginning of getting laughs, 99 00:04:08,009 --> 00:04:10,310 especially around improvising, which I went, 100 00:04:10,378 --> 00:04:12,813 "Literally can create it there in that space?" 101 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,048 They went, "Yep." "Okay, let's do this." 102 00:04:17,585 --> 00:04:19,886 The response to his early comedy performances 103 00:04:19,954 --> 00:04:21,822 in San Francisco encouraged Williams 104 00:04:21,889 --> 00:04:23,390 to take the next step -- 105 00:04:23,457 --> 00:04:26,293 moving to Los Angeles to try his luck in clubs 106 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,629 and improv groups, adually working out the bits 107 00:04:29,697 --> 00:04:31,765 that would later make him a star. 108 00:04:31,833 --> 00:04:35,402 My god, Nanook of Norinne. 109 00:04:35,469 --> 00:04:37,537 My god! 110 00:04:37,605 --> 00:04:39,272 This is a lovely -- look at this thing. 111 00:04:39,340 --> 00:04:41,374 Right now there's a whole bunch of animals going, 112 00:04:41,442 --> 00:04:44,477 "Is it cold? Jesus!" 113 00:04:44,545 --> 00:04:47,013 [Applause] 114 00:04:47,081 --> 00:04:48,782 Woo! 115 00:04:48,850 --> 00:04:51,785 It's the idea of, you know, just starting off with concepts 116 00:04:51,853 --> 00:04:53,753 and then just building off of that, 117 00:04:53,821 --> 00:04:56,723 and weirdly, a lot of times just playing off the audience. 118 00:04:56,791 --> 00:04:58,992 Oh! I guess you couldn't afford the bottom fur. 119 00:04:59,060 --> 00:05:02,229 [Laughter] 120 00:05:02,296 --> 00:05:04,898 I feel like Liberace right now, going, "Just leave me 121 00:05:04,966 --> 00:05:07,701 with the candelabra, damn you, leave me the candelabra." 122 00:05:07,768 --> 00:05:09,002 This is wonderful. 123 00:05:09,070 --> 00:05:12,639 Robin's wearing the lovely pants from Hefty Bag. 124 00:05:12,707 --> 00:05:15,008 [Laughter] 125 00:05:15,076 --> 00:05:17,110 ¶ La da di da ¶ 126 00:05:17,178 --> 00:05:19,246 Took a while to kind of just get the feeling of, 127 00:05:19,313 --> 00:05:21,848 "Okay, try this, try these," and essentially these characters 128 00:05:21,916 --> 00:05:24,084 were jumping around, a lot of different characters. 129 00:05:24,151 --> 00:05:26,453 There was a little kid, a kind of pretentious little -- 130 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,689 I remember I did a character called Little Andrew, 131 00:05:29,757 --> 00:05:31,892 "Who was very, very intelligent. 132 00:05:31,959 --> 00:05:34,561 A long time before the iPad, 133 00:05:34,629 --> 00:05:36,429 I was basically downloading information." 134 00:05:36,497 --> 00:05:38,999 "How?" "Psychically. 135 00:05:39,066 --> 00:05:41,201 Don't make me hurt you." 136 00:05:41,269 --> 00:05:43,169 But it was just, you know, some people would like it, 137 00:05:43,237 --> 00:05:45,005 other people, you're like, "Whoa, what is this?" 138 00:05:45,072 --> 00:05:47,474 One was a Russian stand-up comedian 139 00:05:47,541 --> 00:05:49,943 kind of a takeoff named Nicky Lenin 140 00:05:50,011 --> 00:05:51,478 who did "suppressions." 141 00:05:51,545 --> 00:05:55,215 A Soviet poem of pain and suffering. 142 00:05:55,283 --> 00:06:00,120 Little robin upon my windowsill with tiny breast of red. 143 00:06:00,187 --> 00:06:03,890 I brought the window slowly down and crushed the sucker's head. 144 00:06:03,958 --> 00:06:05,692 [Laughter] 145 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,827 He's gone, but sometimes works. 146 00:06:07,895 --> 00:06:09,562 Soviet ventriloquism. Johnny, you happy to be here? 147 00:06:09,630 --> 00:06:10,964 [Muffled] Delighted! 148 00:06:12,500 --> 00:06:14,534 At small comedy clubs like this, 149 00:06:14,602 --> 00:06:16,636 audiences are notoriously fickle, 150 00:06:16,704 --> 00:06:19,272 but Williams learned from each performance. 151 00:06:19,340 --> 00:06:21,308 I remember there was one show we did at a club 152 00:06:21,375 --> 00:06:23,143 and it was the opening night of this club 153 00:06:23,210 --> 00:06:25,412 and the mics all broke and the sound system went out 154 00:06:25,479 --> 00:06:27,314 and the guy went, "What are we going to do? 155 00:06:27,381 --> 00:06:29,282 What are we going to do?" "I can talk loud." 156 00:06:29,350 --> 00:06:31,618 And that was the first time, and that kind of 157 00:06:31,686 --> 00:06:33,987 also determined my style of just being off-mic 158 00:06:34,055 --> 00:06:36,656 and not a standing target working the whole audience 159 00:06:36,724 --> 00:06:38,858 and using that ability to project my voice 160 00:06:38,926 --> 00:06:41,227 to kind of change the perspective in the room, 161 00:06:41,295 --> 00:06:43,463 so that was the beginning of using literally 162 00:06:43,531 --> 00:06:44,597 one of those skills. 163 00:06:44,665 --> 00:06:46,433 Coming over here, it's nice to wander back. 164 00:06:46,500 --> 00:06:48,668 Thank you. 165 00:06:48,736 --> 00:06:50,270 Oh, we're just going to work on this, 166 00:06:50,338 --> 00:06:51,705 we're going to tease it a little. 167 00:06:51,772 --> 00:06:52,706 Just look at it. 168 00:06:52,773 --> 00:06:53,940 How about those 49ers? 169 00:06:54,008 --> 00:06:55,608 You think they're ever going to work again? 170 00:06:55,676 --> 00:06:57,277 I don't know. Let's look over there. 171 00:06:57,345 --> 00:06:59,913 Let's just look over here just a second. 172 00:06:59,981 --> 00:07:02,682 Okay, we're going to put a little up here, 173 00:07:02,750 --> 00:07:04,684 Hare Krishna, Hare -- sorry. 174 00:07:04,752 --> 00:07:08,555 Right now she's going, "I worked all day on that!" 175 00:07:08,622 --> 00:07:11,157 Ooh, more smoke. I want to die. 176 00:07:11,225 --> 00:07:12,859 When it works, there's nothing better. 177 00:07:12,927 --> 00:07:14,728 When it doesn't work, there's nothing worse. 178 00:07:14,795 --> 00:07:16,429 Hence the metaphor is you kill or die. 179 00:07:16,497 --> 00:07:17,430 There's no in between. 180 00:07:17,498 --> 00:07:18,898 The metaphors are pretty brutal. 181 00:07:18,966 --> 00:07:20,367 "You killed." 182 00:07:20,434 --> 00:07:23,169 Or "you maimed." 183 00:07:23,237 --> 00:07:25,472 You know, then when you don't do well, "You died." 184 00:07:25,539 --> 00:07:28,375 Forward to Intellect, saving warning Sequence 2, 185 00:07:28,442 --> 00:07:30,110 save your ass at any cost. 186 00:07:30,177 --> 00:07:33,013 Phase in Sequence 2, dynamite opening response B. 187 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,749 Phase in amlac opening sequence B, 188 00:07:35,816 --> 00:07:37,283 amlac phase in now. 189 00:07:37,351 --> 00:07:39,652 Hey, nice to be here. 190 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,421 That's a routine I actually developed 191 00:07:41,489 --> 00:07:43,156 that was called "what goes on inside 192 00:07:43,224 --> 00:07:44,891 a comic's mind when you've bombing," 193 00:07:44,959 --> 00:07:47,160 and it's come inside my mind, and it was literally 194 00:07:47,228 --> 00:07:49,029 thdesperation of looking for material 195 00:07:49,096 --> 00:07:50,630 and trying to find the right joke 196 00:07:50,698 --> 00:07:52,198 and eventually getting it out. 197 00:07:52,266 --> 00:07:54,734 You go blue just because that's the only way to get out of it. 198 00:07:54,802 --> 00:07:57,203 Move on to dynamite second routine 1B, 199 00:07:57,271 --> 00:08:00,273 phase in now, amlac phase in opening response 1B, 200 00:08:00,341 --> 00:08:02,342 amlac C, sequence A. 201 00:08:02,410 --> 00:08:05,612 How 'bout that walking, eh? 202 00:08:05,679 --> 00:08:07,313 Mayday, mayday, mayday! 203 00:08:07,381 --> 00:08:09,649 And then finally your id comes up, like, 204 00:08:09,717 --> 00:08:11,518 "Let me go, I can talk to 'em. 205 00:08:11,585 --> 00:08:14,487 They're just -- just let it go, I've got some stuff." 206 00:08:14,555 --> 00:08:16,156 No, not you. "Nah, hah hah! 207 00:08:16,223 --> 00:08:17,357 Talk about your mother!" 208 00:08:17,425 --> 00:08:18,892 You're not ready, you're not ready. 209 00:08:18,959 --> 00:08:24,397 ABC saw William's act, and, in 1978, 210 00:08:24,465 --> 00:08:27,400 fast-tracked a new sitcom in which he'd play an alien. 211 00:08:27,468 --> 00:08:30,070 Critics were skeptical of the premise, 212 00:08:30,137 --> 00:08:32,372 but Mork & Mindy was a big hit. 213 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:33,473 [Telephone ringing] 214 00:08:33,541 --> 00:08:38,511 Ring! Ring! 215 00:08:38,579 --> 00:08:40,447 Please get the telephone. 216 00:08:40,514 --> 00:08:42,649 Oh, phone. 217 00:08:42,716 --> 00:08:44,851 Primitive means of audio communication. 218 00:08:44,919 --> 00:08:47,253 [Laughter] 219 00:08:47,321 --> 00:08:50,723 I wonder what it looks like. 220 00:08:50,791 --> 00:08:52,459 Hello! 221 00:08:52,526 --> 00:08:56,296 Hello? 222 00:08:56,363 --> 00:08:57,464 [Ringing stops] 223 00:08:57,531 --> 00:09:00,066 I killed it. 224 00:09:00,134 --> 00:09:02,469 It struck a chord because it was so kind of out of 225 00:09:02,536 --> 00:09:04,604 left field in that way, but it was a blast. 226 00:09:04,672 --> 00:09:06,139 The first year was crazy fun. 227 00:09:06,207 --> 00:09:08,541 Ah! 228 00:09:08,609 --> 00:09:10,810 I'm going home, mama! 229 00:09:10,878 --> 00:09:12,145 [Laughter] 230 00:09:17,785 --> 00:09:20,053 Hey! Don't take away my gusto! 231 00:09:20,121 --> 00:09:23,356 [Laughter] 232 00:09:23,424 --> 00:09:25,725 Ah, help me, I'm melting! 233 00:09:25,793 --> 00:09:27,794 [Laughter] 234 00:09:30,564 --> 00:09:33,600 Mork & Mindy was performed in front of a studio audience, 235 00:09:33,667 --> 00:09:36,269 a long-standing technique that especially benefits 236 00:09:36,337 --> 00:09:38,771 comedians like Williams, who need the feedback 237 00:09:38,839 --> 00:09:40,473 of an audience reaction. 238 00:09:40,541 --> 00:09:43,009 People forget that Chaplin, when he did a lot of his movies, 239 00:09:43,077 --> 00:09:44,577 was performing in front of people, 240 00:09:44,645 --> 00:09:46,146 that they sometimes would have -- 241 00:09:46,213 --> 00:09:48,281 a lot of the silent comedians would have, like -- 242 00:09:48,349 --> 00:09:50,917 because there was no soundtrack, they'd have an audience there. 243 00:09:50,985 --> 00:09:52,418 They knew where the laughs were. 244 00:09:52,486 --> 00:09:54,420 Or he would take it out as stage productions. 245 00:09:54,488 --> 00:09:56,456 Like, the Marx Brothers did all of their movies 246 00:09:56,524 --> 00:09:57,624 as stage productions first 247 00:09:57,691 --> 00:09:59,359 so they knew where all the laughs were. 248 00:09:59,426 --> 00:10:02,495 Television couldn't contain Robin Williams, 249 00:10:02,563 --> 00:10:05,131 and soon he was starring in movies 250 00:10:05,199 --> 00:10:07,066 like Good Morning, Vietnam. 251 00:10:07,134 --> 00:10:11,404 Good morning, Vietnam! 252 00:10:11,472 --> 00:10:14,607 Hey, this is not a test, this is rock and roll! 253 00:10:14,675 --> 00:10:18,144 Director Barry Levinson took advantage of Williams' 254 00:10:18,212 --> 00:10:21,414 improvisational skills by secretly filming him 255 00:10:21,482 --> 00:10:24,617 from a distance as he interacted with locals. 256 00:10:24,685 --> 00:10:27,353 There'd be just Thai kids and different people kind of 257 00:10:27,421 --> 00:10:29,389 and we'd be talking and he'd just say, 258 00:10:29,456 --> 00:10:31,624 "Start rolling," and wouldn't let anybody know, 259 00:10:31,692 --> 00:10:33,960 and you'd get wonderful stuff with just the people 260 00:10:34,028 --> 00:10:35,628 and just regular folks. 261 00:10:35,696 --> 00:10:37,564 It's no big deal. 262 00:10:37,631 --> 00:10:40,366 Look, ¶ How loving can you feel ¶ 263 00:10:40,434 --> 00:10:42,101 ¶ When you got that moment when ¶ 264 00:10:42,169 --> 00:10:44,504 ¶ Don't you know that time can be that-a way ¶ 265 00:10:44,572 --> 00:10:45,838 ¶ Wacka-wack, wacka-wack, wacka-wack ¶ 266 00:10:45,906 --> 00:10:47,674 We ended up playing with a grapefruit 267 00:10:47,741 --> 00:10:49,943 instead of a baseball, and there was one actor, 268 00:10:50,010 --> 00:10:52,679 "This is not a real baseball, I have seen a real baseball." 269 00:10:52,746 --> 00:10:54,781 And he just started arguing with me, 270 00:10:54,848 --> 00:10:57,083 and Barry said, you know, "Keep rolling." 271 00:10:57,151 --> 00:10:58,785 It was wonderful, 'cause he was like, 272 00:10:58,852 --> 00:11:00,186 "No, it's a baseball." 273 00:11:00,254 --> 00:11:02,021 "No, it's not a baseball. This is a piece of fruit." 274 00:11:02,089 --> 00:11:05,158 It's much smaller and harder than this one. 275 00:11:05,226 --> 00:11:07,527 You've got me there, Wilk, because, I'm sorry, 276 00:11:07,595 --> 00:11:10,430 we have no budget, you see, and I've got to get on a plane 277 00:11:10,497 --> 00:11:11,931 and we have to do with what we can. 278 00:11:11,999 --> 00:11:14,167 Give me your hand. Thank you. 279 00:11:14,235 --> 00:11:15,969 -Thank you all the same. -Thank you all the same. 280 00:11:18,572 --> 00:11:21,007 Williams would go on to play a wide range 281 00:11:21,075 --> 00:11:23,509 of both comic and serious roles in films, 282 00:11:23,577 --> 00:11:26,312 winning an Academy Award for Good Will Hunting. 283 00:11:26,380 --> 00:11:30,183 But for many, he remains the iconic Mork from Ork. 284 00:11:30,251 --> 00:11:32,218 It still is that thing, even after winning 285 00:11:32,286 --> 00:11:33,953 an Academy Award, for like a week, 286 00:11:34,021 --> 00:11:36,356 people going, "Hey, Good Will Hunting, way to go." 287 00:11:36,423 --> 00:11:38,258 Two weeks later, "Hey, Mork!" 288 00:11:38,325 --> 00:11:39,792 It doesn't change. 289 00:11:41,729 --> 00:11:43,963 By the fourth season of Mork & Mindy, 290 00:11:44,031 --> 00:11:46,666 the producers decided to add a new character, 291 00:11:46,734 --> 00:11:49,302 played by the only comedian who could match 292 00:11:49,370 --> 00:11:51,904 Robin Williams' spontaneous comic energy -- 293 00:11:51,972 --> 00:11:53,006 Jonathan Winters. 294 00:11:53,073 --> 00:11:56,376 I don't like you, Freddy. 295 00:11:56,443 --> 00:11:58,177 Don't like you, Junior. 296 00:11:59,947 --> 00:12:01,614 You wonder if I am different. 297 00:12:01,682 --> 00:12:04,284 I am twisted and bent out of shape 298 00:12:04,351 --> 00:12:06,853 because you took my parents 299 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,421 from me! 300 00:12:10,157 --> 00:12:11,524 [Laughter] 301 00:12:13,661 --> 00:12:15,862 In many ways, Jonathan Winters had 302 00:12:15,929 --> 00:12:17,997 paved the way for Robin Williams 303 00:12:18,065 --> 00:12:20,800 as television's first improvisational genius. 304 00:12:20,868 --> 00:12:23,102 I know you're bitter because you had to leave 305 00:12:23,170 --> 00:12:25,038 that plush job there in the Pentagon. 306 00:12:25,105 --> 00:12:27,307 Yeah, it's cuckoo. 307 00:12:27,374 --> 00:12:29,108 Cut that jazz out. 308 00:12:29,176 --> 00:12:30,877 Let's face it, it's sort of a challenge for -- 309 00:12:30,944 --> 00:12:35,982 it's sort of -- hope you didn't get any on you. 310 00:12:36,050 --> 00:12:39,085 It's sort of man against the jungle, you might say. 311 00:12:39,153 --> 00:12:41,220 You know, malaria, yellow fever. 312 00:12:41,288 --> 00:12:43,856 Animals. No offense, Rodney. 313 00:12:43,924 --> 00:12:47,026 You see, I'll be shoving off before long, 314 00:12:47,094 --> 00:12:49,162 and, look, you're into me for 200 now. 315 00:12:49,229 --> 00:12:50,697 Keep your hands out of there. 316 00:12:50,764 --> 00:12:52,098 WILLIAMS: He made it possible 317 00:12:52,166 --> 00:12:54,200 for me to think that you can do anything. 318 00:12:54,268 --> 00:12:55,802 He made it possible to do voices, 319 00:12:55,869 --> 00:12:58,304 characters, sound effects, and all those different things 320 00:12:58,372 --> 00:13:00,006 that just open the world up. 321 00:13:00,074 --> 00:13:02,442 He was morphing before the technology. 322 00:13:02,509 --> 00:13:04,410 So it was a bit -- that was, for me, 323 00:13:04,478 --> 00:13:06,279 like the beginning of, like, wow. 324 00:13:06,347 --> 00:13:07,680 Tell me, Mr. Groundhog, 325 00:13:07,748 --> 00:13:09,382 do you predict six miserable, 326 00:13:09,450 --> 00:13:11,918 lousy weeks of weather ahead of us or not? 327 00:13:11,985 --> 00:13:14,954 I don't know anything about the weather, Jack. 328 00:13:15,022 --> 00:13:16,589 I can tell you that it's 329 00:13:16,657 --> 00:13:19,025 a crummy hole I live in down there. 330 00:13:19,093 --> 00:13:21,894 It's rotten, it's damp, the missus is about 331 00:13:21,962 --> 00:13:24,163 he ugliest broad I have ever seen. 332 00:13:24,231 --> 00:13:25,832 [Laughter] 333 00:13:28,635 --> 00:13:31,637 Now, Robin Williams said to me one time, 334 00:13:31,705 --> 00:13:36,509 "Pops, you're my mentor," and I said, "No, don't -- 335 00:13:36,577 --> 00:13:39,011 Listen, don't say 'mentor.' 336 00:13:39,079 --> 00:13:42,882 In Ohio, they think that's a salve. 337 00:13:42,950 --> 00:13:45,752 Say 'idol.' Everybody gets that. 338 00:13:45,819 --> 00:13:47,153 I love 'idol.' 339 00:13:47,221 --> 00:13:50,590 See, mentor's -- that's like a pharmaceutical thing. 340 00:13:50,657 --> 00:13:52,024 Put that on your skin." 341 00:13:53,594 --> 00:13:56,129 Jonathan Winters' comedy skills ran deep. 342 00:13:56,196 --> 00:13:59,499 As a boy in Dayton, Ohio, he listened to his grandfather 343 00:13:59,566 --> 00:14:01,667 joke about the town celebrities, 344 00:14:01,735 --> 00:14:03,803 Wilbur and Orville Wright. 345 00:14:03,871 --> 00:14:06,639 WINTERS: And I met Orville Wright when I was a kid. 346 00:14:06,707 --> 00:14:10,009 My grandfather went to school with these guys, 347 00:14:10,077 --> 00:14:13,045 and he said they were devoid of any humor, 348 00:14:13,113 --> 00:14:14,514 they were not funny. 349 00:14:14,581 --> 00:14:17,984 I went like to this to them and I said, you know, 350 00:14:18,051 --> 00:14:20,052 "How's the airplane, Orville?" 351 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,655 As a young man, 352 00:14:22,723 --> 00:14:24,757 Winters hoped to become an artist, 353 00:14:24,825 --> 00:14:27,493 but his wife set him on a different track. 354 00:14:27,561 --> 00:14:29,362 My wife said, "Enough. 355 00:14:29,430 --> 00:14:31,464 Your art isn't that good. 356 00:14:31,532 --> 00:14:35,568 I'm going to tell you, I love you," this and that. 357 00:14:35,636 --> 00:14:38,538 "You don't have a style, and you've got to have a style. 358 00:14:38,605 --> 00:14:42,208 As a performer in the music business and acting, 359 00:14:42,276 --> 00:14:44,343 you've got to have a style." 360 00:14:44,411 --> 00:14:45,878 And I didn't have a style. 361 00:14:45,946 --> 00:14:47,580 Winters went to New York 362 00:14:47,648 --> 00:14:50,917 and developed his unique improvisational style. 363 00:14:50,984 --> 00:14:54,821 Soon he was a regular on the talk show circuit. 364 00:14:54,888 --> 00:14:56,489 He has a plan to save Cuba. Listen to this. 365 00:14:56,557 --> 00:14:57,557 Please tell them. 366 00:14:57,624 --> 00:14:58,925 [As JFK] Well, my plan is this, Jack. 367 00:14:58,992 --> 00:15:00,293 [Laughter] 368 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,162 From one Jack to another, 369 00:15:03,230 --> 00:15:05,865 it has been my feeling right along, 370 00:15:05,933 --> 00:15:08,768 and I tried to get Congress to go along with me, 371 00:15:08,836 --> 00:15:11,504 my friends. 372 00:15:11,572 --> 00:15:16,008 Lyndon, who I saw about a year ago. 373 00:15:16,076 --> 00:15:17,543 [Laughter] 374 00:15:17,611 --> 00:15:20,613 Jonathan Winters was almost unknown 375 00:15:20,681 --> 00:15:23,883 until he had the Jack Paar experience, 376 00:15:23,951 --> 00:15:28,354 and people who came on that show became suddenly known. 377 00:15:28,422 --> 00:15:30,556 Did you ever undress in front of a dog? 378 00:15:30,624 --> 00:15:34,227 [Laughter] 379 00:15:34,294 --> 00:15:36,162 Um... 380 00:15:36,230 --> 00:15:38,264 [Laughter] 381 00:15:38,332 --> 00:15:41,067 I'll tell you... 382 00:15:41,134 --> 00:15:42,768 You think about that for a minute. 383 00:15:42,836 --> 00:15:44,737 [Laughter] 384 00:15:44,805 --> 00:15:47,840 I don't know, people, you know, it's funny. 385 00:15:47,908 --> 00:15:50,510 A bird somehow doesn't count, right? 386 00:15:50,577 --> 00:15:51,911 [Chuckles] 387 00:15:51,979 --> 00:15:53,546 Or a cat. 388 00:15:53,614 --> 00:15:56,115 But a dog, they really stare. 389 00:15:56,183 --> 00:15:58,584 [Laughter] 390 00:15:58,652 --> 00:16:00,753 If Jack Paar liked what you were doing, 391 00:16:00,821 --> 00:16:03,823 you know, the rest of the guests could come back the next night. 392 00:16:03,891 --> 00:16:07,360 I'd just come out of the shower and here was my dog. 393 00:16:07,427 --> 00:16:10,530 [Laughter] 394 00:16:10,597 --> 00:16:13,099 You know they can talk, right? 395 00:16:13,166 --> 00:16:14,934 So when they look at you like... 396 00:16:15,002 --> 00:16:17,136 [Laughter] 397 00:16:17,204 --> 00:16:18,905 Yeah, and wagged her little tail 398 00:16:18,972 --> 00:16:21,474 and went out and told her friends what she'd seen. 399 00:16:21,542 --> 00:16:24,010 I remember seeing him -- watching him with my father. 400 00:16:24,077 --> 00:16:26,779 My dad was kind of, you know, very kind of quiet like this, 401 00:16:26,847 --> 00:16:29,181 and Jonathan did a thing where he came on one time 402 00:16:29,249 --> 00:16:30,917 on The Tonight Show with Jack Paar 403 00:16:30,984 --> 00:16:32,084 and came out and said -- 404 00:16:32,152 --> 00:16:33,686 and Jack said, "What are you?" 405 00:16:33,754 --> 00:16:34,820 What are you? 406 00:16:34,888 --> 00:16:36,889 I'm the Voice of Spring! 407 00:16:36,957 --> 00:16:42,128 [Laughter] 408 00:16:42,195 --> 00:16:45,131 I bring you some little goodies from the forest. 409 00:16:45,198 --> 00:16:46,933 [Laughter] 410 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,635 [Whistles] 411 00:16:49,703 --> 00:16:51,537 [Laughter] 412 00:16:51,605 --> 00:16:53,839 And I saw my dad lose it and I went, 413 00:16:53,907 --> 00:16:56,042 "Okay, this guy, I like this guy." 414 00:16:56,109 --> 00:16:58,010 Where did you decide to do this? 415 00:16:58,078 --> 00:16:59,312 This is something new. 416 00:16:59,379 --> 00:17:02,381 Well, I've been to the forest, and the -- 417 00:17:02,449 --> 00:17:05,151 You've been on Third Avenue, is where you've been. 418 00:17:05,218 --> 00:17:07,186 [Laughter] 419 00:17:07,254 --> 00:17:09,855 Weeee! 420 00:17:09,923 --> 00:17:13,225 Took me 45 minutes to get that in there. 421 00:17:13,293 --> 00:17:15,962 I'm sorry, in the forest, we don't care. 422 00:17:16,029 --> 00:17:17,463 [Laughter] 423 00:17:21,101 --> 00:17:24,403 At each performance, Winters would morph into 424 00:17:24,471 --> 00:17:28,407 a collection of characters, all funny, all spontaneous. 425 00:17:28,475 --> 00:17:32,545 That was very touching, boys and girls. 426 00:17:32,613 --> 00:17:34,347 Excuse me while I shed a tear. 427 00:17:34,414 --> 00:17:36,482 I don't want to do it in front of you. 428 00:17:36,550 --> 00:17:38,484 CHILDREN: Aw! 429 00:17:38,552 --> 00:17:39,552 Oh... 430 00:17:39,620 --> 00:17:42,722 [Laughter] 431 00:17:42,789 --> 00:17:44,724 Ah! 432 00:17:44,791 --> 00:17:47,793 Ah, just a little medicine. 433 00:17:47,861 --> 00:17:50,696 "And the boys said, 'No, no.' Jeez, I'll tell it." 434 00:17:50,764 --> 00:17:53,399 "I am not from Paris, I am from Bordeaux." 435 00:17:53,467 --> 00:17:56,769 "And we seen this light up there and it was a huge saucer." 436 00:17:56,837 --> 00:17:58,704 "I have a marvelous appetite. 437 00:17:58,772 --> 00:18:01,240 You can tell that by looking at me." 438 00:18:01,308 --> 00:18:04,443 "Oh, god, I wish Ethel was here to see this." 439 00:18:04,511 --> 00:18:07,113 "Take me to your leader! Take me to your leader!" 440 00:18:07,180 --> 00:18:08,848 "And did you take him to your leader?" 441 00:18:08,915 --> 00:18:10,316 "I didn't know who my leader was." 442 00:18:10,384 --> 00:18:12,251 [Laughs nervously] 443 00:18:12,319 --> 00:18:13,452 "Stop that, boy." 444 00:18:15,856 --> 00:18:20,226 In 1956, Jonathan Winters got his own television show, 445 00:18:20,293 --> 00:18:23,562 the first-ever series broadcast in color. 446 00:18:23,630 --> 00:18:27,266 It didn't last long, but he was back in 1967 447 00:18:27,334 --> 00:18:30,436 with another series showcasing his comic genius. 448 00:18:30,504 --> 00:18:33,139 Margaret, if you'd be kind enough to plug in that 449 00:18:33,206 --> 00:18:35,207 new electric knife that you gave me, 450 00:18:35,275 --> 00:18:36,942 there's a special turkey here. 451 00:18:37,010 --> 00:18:38,911 Would you plug it in, sweetheart? 452 00:18:38,979 --> 00:18:42,581 [Laughter] 453 00:18:42,649 --> 00:18:44,283 Thppt! Oh! 454 00:18:44,351 --> 00:18:45,885 [Laughter] 455 00:18:45,952 --> 00:18:48,287 I'm sorry, Uncle Willie! 456 00:18:48,355 --> 00:18:50,356 Try to stand, will ya? 457 00:18:50,424 --> 00:18:51,657 [Laughter] 458 00:18:51,725 --> 00:18:53,926 Cut your tie off, didn't it? Aw! 459 00:18:53,994 --> 00:18:56,028 When we're talking about improvisation, 460 00:18:56,096 --> 00:18:57,029 it's a little scary. 461 00:18:57,097 --> 00:18:58,431 It's always scary. 462 00:18:58,498 --> 00:19:02,535 A lot of you people have asked why my strange headdress. 463 00:19:02,602 --> 00:19:03,569 [Laughter] 464 00:19:03,637 --> 00:19:04,970 Well, don't ask anymore. 465 00:19:05,038 --> 00:19:06,706 Ppt, ppt. 466 00:19:06,773 --> 00:19:08,040 [Laughter] 467 00:19:08,108 --> 00:19:09,842 [Applause] 468 00:19:09,910 --> 00:19:12,611 When you saw him on his show where he would come out with 469 00:19:12,679 --> 00:19:14,780 a box of stuff and just take out something. 470 00:19:14,848 --> 00:19:16,982 One time, I remember, he came out and said, 471 00:19:17,050 --> 00:19:18,284 "My name is Tommin Turney, 472 00:19:18,351 --> 00:19:20,119 I come from the country of Tangwai. 473 00:19:20,187 --> 00:19:25,324 Our country is 400 yards wide and 20 miles long." 474 00:19:25,392 --> 00:19:27,026 And then they said, "What is your chief export?" 475 00:19:27,094 --> 00:19:28,828 "Mainly rope." 476 00:19:28,895 --> 00:19:30,996 It was like -- and he just started 477 00:19:31,064 --> 00:19:32,732 building these things. 478 00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:34,166 Give him a hat, he could go for days. 479 00:19:34,234 --> 00:19:39,839 It's not easy here on this bloody ship, is it, matey? 480 00:19:39,906 --> 00:19:41,540 -Is it? -It's not easy, sir. 481 00:19:41,608 --> 00:19:43,209 'Course it isn't. 482 00:19:43,276 --> 00:19:45,778 You want to go that route again? 483 00:19:45,846 --> 00:19:48,247 Lock and load the cannon. 484 00:19:48,315 --> 00:19:50,316 That's the cannon right there. 485 00:19:50,383 --> 00:19:52,351 -Yes, sir. -See, I've been drinking, too. 486 00:19:52,419 --> 00:19:54,553 I can't help. 487 00:19:54,621 --> 00:19:57,723 These are all different from this afternoon. 488 00:19:57,791 --> 00:19:59,024 You bet they are. 489 00:19:59,092 --> 00:20:01,160 And he'd make these things up, 490 00:20:01,228 --> 00:20:03,863 but then when it came time to do it again 491 00:20:03,930 --> 00:20:06,699 on the live show after the dress rehearsal, 492 00:20:06,767 --> 00:20:09,235 he wasn't as good because he wanted -- 493 00:20:09,302 --> 00:20:11,637 he didn't want to do the same thing, 494 00:20:11,705 --> 00:20:15,341 and the time he did it first was the funniest. 495 00:20:15,408 --> 00:20:17,643 That was the first thing that came in his head, boom, 496 00:20:17,711 --> 00:20:20,679 and he did it and it was great. 497 00:20:20,747 --> 00:20:24,650 Let's -- let's play swords. 498 00:20:24,718 --> 00:20:27,486 [Laughter] 499 00:20:27,554 --> 00:20:29,155 I didn't have to do anything 500 00:20:29,222 --> 00:20:31,724 except just stand there and laugh at him. 501 00:20:31,792 --> 00:20:35,127 I'd sing a song and supposedly I don't know 502 00:20:35,195 --> 00:20:39,131 that he's behind me doing all kinds of crazy things. 503 00:20:39,199 --> 00:20:42,935 ¶ I'm starry-eyed ¶ 504 00:20:43,003 --> 00:20:47,606 ¶ And vaguely discontented ¶ 505 00:20:47,674 --> 00:20:49,708 ¶ Like a nightingale ¶ 506 00:20:49,776 --> 00:20:54,380 [Whistles] 507 00:20:54,447 --> 00:20:56,215 Cracker. 508 00:20:56,283 --> 00:20:57,583 [Laughter] 509 00:20:57,651 --> 00:20:59,185 ANDY WILLIAMS: It was silly for me 510 00:20:59,252 --> 00:21:03,055 to sing it in dress rehearsal and for him to do it because, 511 00:21:03,123 --> 00:21:06,125 again, he was funnier doing it the first time 512 00:21:06,193 --> 00:21:07,993 than he was the second time. 513 00:21:08,061 --> 00:21:14,333 The reason a lot of these guys, Andy and Dean and Steve 514 00:21:14,401 --> 00:21:20,206 and Jack had chosen me was a very dangerous thing, 515 00:21:20,273 --> 00:21:23,576 but thank god, they would say, 516 00:21:23,643 --> 00:21:26,946 if they were here today to say it, 517 00:21:27,013 --> 00:21:29,815 I would bet on this, one thing about Winters, 518 00:21:29,883 --> 00:21:32,551 you never knew what he was going to say or do. 519 00:21:32,619 --> 00:21:34,420 When we had Jonathan on, it was amazing, 520 00:21:34,487 --> 00:21:36,689 because he and I -- they would just do these things 521 00:21:36,756 --> 00:21:38,424 like, "Jonathan and Robin riff here." 522 00:21:38,491 --> 00:21:40,426 I was kicked out of Santa, sir. They found me in a dress. 523 00:21:40,493 --> 00:21:42,261 Doesn't make any difference. They found you in what? 524 00:21:42,329 --> 00:21:43,262 A gown. 525 00:21:43,330 --> 00:21:45,197 Ah, gown's better. 526 00:21:45,265 --> 00:21:46,198 [Laughter] 527 00:21:46,266 --> 00:21:48,734 WILLIAMS: One time we did 528 00:21:48,802 --> 00:21:50,069 a World War I takeoff. 529 00:21:50,136 --> 00:21:52,638 They shot for like 45 minutes to the point where 530 00:21:52,706 --> 00:21:54,773 the cameras were running out of film. 531 00:21:54,841 --> 00:21:56,842 They were like machine gunners at Guadalcanal. 532 00:21:56,910 --> 00:21:58,277 I'm out! 533 00:21:58,345 --> 00:22:00,346 Get a gunner to camera three! 534 00:22:00,413 --> 00:22:01,847 And were just riffing. 535 00:22:01,915 --> 00:22:03,616 They're coming, father, look! 536 00:22:03,683 --> 00:22:05,584 Thousands of Huns, Germans, Bosch! 537 00:22:05,652 --> 00:22:07,686 Germans and Bosch! What's the Bosch? 538 00:22:07,754 --> 00:22:10,756 -Small soup with beets. -I suppose. 539 00:22:10,824 --> 00:22:12,791 And then eventually they would cut it down to five minutes. 540 00:22:12,859 --> 00:22:14,560 [Imitating gunfire] 541 00:22:14,628 --> 00:22:16,495 Ow, ow, my hand, my hand! 542 00:22:16,563 --> 00:22:18,664 I'm sorry, sorry, take it out! 543 00:22:18,732 --> 00:22:19,698 I'm hurt, I'm hurt! 544 00:22:19,766 --> 00:22:21,133 I know you are, but you've killed 545 00:22:21,201 --> 00:22:22,935 the old man with four fingers in his head! 546 00:22:23,003 --> 00:22:24,904 [Laughter] 547 00:22:24,971 --> 00:22:29,608 Well, it's two crazy guys, you know, 548 00:22:29,676 --> 00:22:33,479 that had just been released from a major hospital, 549 00:22:33,546 --> 00:22:36,548 and, "Ha, ha, ha, we're on the playground now, 550 00:22:36,616 --> 00:22:37,850 you'll never get us. 551 00:22:37,918 --> 00:22:40,619 We can get in that Jeep and roll away, bye-bye." 552 00:22:40,687 --> 00:22:43,322 And he is on full throttle. 553 00:22:43,390 --> 00:22:45,324 I mean, I can be on full throttle, 554 00:22:45,392 --> 00:22:48,060 but I found out what full throttle can do to you. 555 00:22:48,128 --> 00:22:51,397 It can -- you can end up hitting the pylon 556 00:22:51,464 --> 00:22:53,532 rather than going around it. 557 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:58,737 Um...the thing to me, Robin is like a great air show. 558 00:22:58,805 --> 00:23:00,572 Looks like the bloody war's over. 559 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,007 -No, sir. -What a shame. 560 00:23:02,075 --> 00:23:03,275 And no action. 561 00:23:03,343 --> 00:23:06,345 You know, I can't -- no, it's my medallions. 562 00:23:06,413 --> 00:23:08,180 [Laughter] 563 00:23:08,248 --> 00:23:09,515 There we are. 564 00:23:09,582 --> 00:23:11,483 It would take him literally sometimes 30 minutes 565 00:23:11,551 --> 00:23:13,452 to get from his car to the set on Mork & Mindy 566 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,487 because he would stop and perform for everybody. 567 00:23:15,555 --> 00:23:19,024 The guys that comes up now, "Did I see you on television?" 568 00:23:19,092 --> 00:23:21,660 Of course, a lot of times I will say, 569 00:23:21,728 --> 00:23:24,763 "I'm Leland Buckhorn and I'm a bronco buster, 570 00:23:24,831 --> 00:23:25,931 a bronco rider." 571 00:23:25,999 --> 00:23:28,167 "No, that's not it." 572 00:23:28,234 --> 00:23:31,603 "Oh, yes, it is. I'm Leland Buckhorn. 573 00:23:31,671 --> 00:23:34,340 And I'm busting my whole thing down here 574 00:23:34,407 --> 00:23:36,275 and riding them Brahman bulls. 575 00:23:36,343 --> 00:23:38,043 It's just terrible for me. 576 00:23:38,111 --> 00:23:40,646 I can't do it no more." 577 00:23:40,714 --> 00:23:42,581 And have the woman turn to her husband, 578 00:23:42,649 --> 00:23:44,516 "Eddie, I told you it wasn't him." 579 00:23:44,584 --> 00:23:47,619 Jonathan Winters, as everyone knows, 580 00:23:47,687 --> 00:23:50,222 is some kind of a... 581 00:23:50,290 --> 00:23:51,523 savant or something. 582 00:23:51,591 --> 00:23:52,658 I mean, I don't know. 583 00:23:52,726 --> 00:23:55,661 He just never stopped. He was always 584 00:23:55,729 --> 00:23:56,895 in some character. 585 00:23:56,963 --> 00:23:59,164 I just thinke felt so comfortable there. 586 00:23:59,232 --> 00:24:02,001 Writing for an improvisational performer 587 00:24:02,068 --> 00:24:04,670 like Jonathan Winters was a challenge 588 00:24:04,738 --> 00:24:07,906 because Winters liked to work out his own bits. 589 00:24:07,974 --> 00:24:09,708 They would give him stuff to say that if 590 00:24:09,776 --> 00:24:11,944 he didn't think was funny, he couldn't memorize it. 591 00:24:12,012 --> 00:24:14,546 Jonathan, please. 592 00:24:14,614 --> 00:24:16,749 Just do the lines. 593 00:24:16,816 --> 00:24:19,585 What we've talked about for five days, okay? 594 00:24:19,652 --> 00:24:21,520 Because he's so naturally funny that 595 00:24:21,588 --> 00:24:23,489 I think it was like tissue rejection. 596 00:24:23,556 --> 00:24:25,891 They would write him stuff to say and just, pbbt, 597 00:24:25,959 --> 00:24:27,893 you know, and he'd go, "I don't -- no." 598 00:24:27,961 --> 00:24:33,665 You got six to seven writers on the show, okay? 599 00:24:33,733 --> 00:24:36,835 This one scene here in the second act, please, 600 00:24:36,903 --> 00:24:38,637 let's just do it. 601 00:24:38,705 --> 00:24:40,839 Tomorrow we'll do it. 602 00:24:40,907 --> 00:24:42,775 Why can't we do it now, man? 603 00:24:42,842 --> 00:24:45,310 I'd like to get it started -- you know, 604 00:24:45,378 --> 00:24:47,446 I want to get this thing going. 605 00:24:47,514 --> 00:24:50,716 There's going to be some big changes all week. 606 00:24:50,784 --> 00:24:52,584 I know that, okay. 607 00:24:52,652 --> 00:24:57,423 Now, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, 608 00:24:57,490 --> 00:24:58,957 skipping -- you're fighting for your life. 609 00:24:59,025 --> 00:25:00,926 I'm fighting to get in some more. 610 00:25:00,994 --> 00:25:03,962 I want to do a thing with a window out here with the kids. 611 00:25:04,030 --> 00:25:05,197 What window? 612 00:25:05,265 --> 00:25:07,032 The break front. 613 00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:08,834 It's a fake window, okay? 614 00:25:08,902 --> 00:25:11,503 Can you get that? You're getting 60,000 bucks. 615 00:25:11,571 --> 00:25:13,072 A fake window. 616 00:25:13,139 --> 00:25:15,941 Phew, medication. 617 00:25:16,009 --> 00:25:17,276 [Gulps] 618 00:25:17,343 --> 00:25:19,478 There we go. 619 00:25:19,546 --> 00:25:21,513 Because he's so instinctually funny 620 00:25:21,581 --> 00:25:23,682 that you just want to go, "Let him go. 621 00:25:23,750 --> 00:25:25,784 Let him free-range. We'll be there." 622 00:25:25,852 --> 00:25:28,220 You know, then when they did, it would work. 623 00:25:28,288 --> 00:25:31,657 What made Jonathan Winters and Robin Williams unique 624 00:25:31,724 --> 00:25:34,093 was their ability to create comedy 625 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,495 from nothing instantaneously. 626 00:25:38,364 --> 00:25:40,899 Improvisational masters can conceive, write, 627 00:25:40,967 --> 00:25:43,602 and perform a line all in the blink of an eye. 628 00:25:45,905 --> 00:25:48,207 At the other end of the spectrum are performers 629 00:25:48,274 --> 00:25:50,709 who focus on preparation, getting into their roles, 630 00:25:50,777 --> 00:25:53,979 carefully crafting the delivery of each funny word. 631 00:25:54,047 --> 00:25:57,382 Among the most honored of these formally trained comedy actors 632 00:25:57,450 --> 00:25:59,518 is Cloris Leachman, who's won more 633 00:25:59,586 --> 00:26:01,753 acting Emmy Awards than anyone else. 634 00:26:05,091 --> 00:26:09,328 In 1946, Cloris Leachman nearly won the Miss America contest, 635 00:26:09,395 --> 00:26:12,197 but beauty pageants weren't her goal. 636 00:26:12,265 --> 00:26:14,566 She wanted to act, a dream since she 637 00:26:14,634 --> 00:26:16,735 stepped onstage as a little girl 638 00:26:16,803 --> 00:26:19,404 and learned her first lesson about comedy. 639 00:26:19,472 --> 00:26:21,507 I, like, twirled and did -- and I slipped 640 00:26:21,574 --> 00:26:27,112 and fell flat on my ass, and I was horrified. 641 00:26:27,180 --> 00:26:28,547 And everybody laughed. 642 00:26:28,615 --> 00:26:30,449 And it changed, I'm sure, 643 00:26:30,517 --> 00:26:33,185 my outlook for the rest of my life, 644 00:26:33,253 --> 00:26:35,988 that it's okay to fall flat on your ass. 645 00:26:36,055 --> 00:26:37,723 The audience is with you. 646 00:26:37,790 --> 00:26:40,592 They're right there with you and for you. 647 00:26:40,660 --> 00:26:45,697 Studying under Elia Kazan at the famed Actors Studio, 648 00:26:45,765 --> 00:26:48,167 Leachman learned the techniques of dramatic acting, 649 00:26:48,234 --> 00:26:49,935 which she then applied to comedy. 650 00:26:50,003 --> 00:26:54,406 LEACHMAN: Kazan emphasized using objects 651 00:26:54,474 --> 00:26:56,542 in a scene instead of using your face. 652 00:26:56,609 --> 00:26:58,644 Well, gee, you know, he would have you 653 00:26:58,711 --> 00:27:01,914 do something with an object that would show how you're feeling. 654 00:27:01,981 --> 00:27:04,149 We're gonna get this business deal on its feet, all right, 655 00:27:04,217 --> 00:27:06,118 and then the feet's gonna be right on your neck. 656 00:27:06,186 --> 00:27:07,486 Now, that's a damn lie! 657 00:27:07,554 --> 00:27:10,222 Now, listen, this outfit is going to go through, 658 00:27:10,290 --> 00:27:12,357 but the arrangement has got to be between you and me. 659 00:27:12,425 --> 00:27:14,826 So I said, "I need something," and the prop department said, 660 00:27:14,894 --> 00:27:16,395 "Well, what do you need?" "Well, I don't know, 661 00:27:16,462 --> 00:27:17,529 I -- a candy?" 662 00:27:17,597 --> 00:27:19,932 So they gave me this bowl on a stem 663 00:27:19,999 --> 00:27:21,700 with wrapped candy covered. 664 00:27:21,768 --> 00:27:24,336 My goodness, let's not grobble. 665 00:27:24,404 --> 00:27:26,071 Yeah, let's not fight about 666 00:27:26,139 --> 00:27:28,307 anything silly like old Maureen. 667 00:27:28,374 --> 00:27:29,908 I mean, what the hell. 668 00:27:29,976 --> 00:27:31,777 [Laughter] 669 00:27:31,844 --> 00:27:32,911 Crack. 670 00:27:32,979 --> 00:27:34,413 I cracked it. 671 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,283 Oh, yes, it got a big laugh. 672 00:27:38,351 --> 00:27:43,055 That's the sort of thing that's wonderful, 673 00:27:43,122 --> 00:27:44,723 to use objects. 674 00:27:47,126 --> 00:27:49,661 Throughout her career, Leachman has been careful 675 00:27:49,729 --> 00:27:51,663 not to play stock comic characters. 676 00:27:51,731 --> 00:27:54,399 Instead, she works to make each performance unique. 677 00:27:54,467 --> 00:27:55,567 LEACHMAN: It's so easy 678 00:27:55,635 --> 00:27:56,568 to do clichés. 679 00:27:56,636 --> 00:27:58,136 We all know what -- in fact, 680 00:27:58,204 --> 00:28:01,173 some actors who think they're really good and they aren't, 681 00:28:01,241 --> 00:28:04,142 they think they're good because they know their clichés. 682 00:28:04,210 --> 00:28:07,012 Oh, I know, you stand this way or you don't cry 683 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,348 or you do or whatever at this point. 684 00:28:09,415 --> 00:28:11,116 It's all clichés. 685 00:28:11,184 --> 00:28:14,586 So you have to think, "I know what this is about, 686 00:28:14,654 --> 00:28:17,556 but how can I do it in a more interesting 687 00:28:17,624 --> 00:28:18,857 or fresher way?" 688 00:28:18,925 --> 00:28:21,493 Cloris Leachman's breakthrough role on television 689 00:28:21,561 --> 00:28:24,229 came as Phyllis on The Mary Tyler Moore Show. 690 00:28:24,297 --> 00:28:25,697 So this is the newsroom? 691 00:28:25,765 --> 00:28:27,833 Yeah, this is it. Morning, Gordy. 692 00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:29,101 Hi, Mary, how are you? 693 00:28:29,168 --> 00:28:30,502 Oh, Gordy, I'd like you to meet 694 00:28:30,570 --> 00:28:32,070 Phyllis Lindstrom, my new assistant,. 695 00:28:32,138 --> 00:28:33,639 This is Gordy Howard, our weatherman. 696 00:28:33,706 --> 00:28:35,240 Gordy, I just want to say one thing. 697 00:28:35,308 --> 00:28:36,808 I'd love you to come over for dinner 698 00:28:36,876 --> 00:28:38,543 so we can really get to know each other. 699 00:28:38,611 --> 00:28:39,544 [Laughter] 700 00:28:39,612 --> 00:28:42,014 I mean as human beings. 701 00:28:42,081 --> 00:28:44,383 Because we're going to be working together. 702 00:28:44,450 --> 00:28:47,452 Yeah, uh-huh. 703 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,254 Gordy and I really hit it off. 704 00:28:49,322 --> 00:28:50,722 [Laughter] 705 00:28:53,326 --> 00:28:55,694 Leachman's comic nemesis on the show 706 00:28:55,762 --> 00:28:57,429 was Valerie Harper's Rhoda. 707 00:28:57,497 --> 00:28:59,931 We loved each other. We were great friends. 708 00:28:59,999 --> 00:29:02,367 We'd go to lunch every day and decide what 709 00:29:02,435 --> 00:29:04,670 we were going to do so we wouldn't take 710 00:29:04,737 --> 00:29:07,239 so much time on the set, 'cause Mary and Jay, 711 00:29:07,307 --> 00:29:10,175 the director, they'd do it and that's the end of it. 712 00:29:10,243 --> 00:29:14,346 Rhoda, you'll give me an honest opinion, won't you? 713 00:29:14,414 --> 00:29:16,848 Uh, not necessarily, Phyllis. 714 00:29:16,916 --> 00:29:19,418 Well, listen, I'll taste it. 715 00:29:19,485 --> 00:29:21,019 Give it a try here. 716 00:29:23,890 --> 00:29:24,956 I love this pie. 717 00:29:25,024 --> 00:29:26,858 [Laughter] 718 00:29:26,926 --> 00:29:28,060 So it's come down to this. 719 00:29:28,127 --> 00:29:30,262 I've become such an object of pity 720 00:29:30,330 --> 00:29:32,230 that even Rhoda is being kind. 721 00:29:32,298 --> 00:29:33,732 No! 722 00:29:35,401 --> 00:29:37,803 The Phyllis character was eventually spun off 723 00:29:37,870 --> 00:29:39,638 into her own show, 724 00:29:39,706 --> 00:29:42,941 but with a different cast, the comedy dynamic changed. 725 00:29:43,009 --> 00:29:47,212 Lars proposed to somebody before me? 726 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,182 Oh, he must have known her long before he knew me. 727 00:29:50,249 --> 00:29:52,551 Oh, no, dear, I think he was going out 728 00:29:52,618 --> 00:29:54,720 with both of you at the same time. 729 00:29:54,787 --> 00:29:56,621 [Laughter] 730 00:29:56,689 --> 00:29:59,491 When you take a character out of a group 731 00:29:59,559 --> 00:30:03,095 like The Mary Tyler Moore Show, it's not a character. 732 00:30:03,162 --> 00:30:06,131 It's only defined by the people around you. 733 00:30:06,199 --> 00:30:08,367 So it was tricky, and each week I thought, 734 00:30:08,434 --> 00:30:10,202 "Who am I going to be this week?" 735 00:30:10,269 --> 00:30:12,704 It was a little tricky. Isn't that interesting? 736 00:30:14,540 --> 00:30:17,042 Always looking to stretch her comic skills, 737 00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:18,543 Leachman took movie roles, 738 00:30:18,611 --> 00:30:20,178 including an iconic turn 739 00:30:20,246 --> 00:30:22,881 as Frau Blucher in Young Frankenstein. 740 00:30:22,949 --> 00:30:25,217 That was your cigar smoldering in the ashtray! 741 00:30:25,284 --> 00:30:26,651 Yes! 742 00:30:26,719 --> 00:30:29,154 And it was you who left my grandfaer's book out 743 00:30:29,222 --> 00:30:30,155 for me to find! 744 00:30:30,223 --> 00:30:32,257 -Yes! -So that I would -- 745 00:30:32,325 --> 00:30:33,325 Yes! 746 00:30:33,393 --> 00:30:35,026 And you and Victor were -- 747 00:30:35,094 --> 00:30:38,397 Yes! Yes! Say it! 748 00:30:38,464 --> 00:30:42,401 He was my boyfriend! 749 00:30:42,468 --> 00:30:45,637 And then Mel Brooks gave me a one line reading, 750 00:30:45,705 --> 00:30:47,773 and all I've ever done with him. 751 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,308 I said, "Stay close to the candles. 752 00:30:50,376 --> 00:30:52,577 The staircase can be treacherous." 753 00:30:52,645 --> 00:30:54,413 He gave me this line reading. 754 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,281 "Stay close to the candles. 755 00:30:56,349 --> 00:30:59,184 The staircase can be treacherous." 756 00:30:59,252 --> 00:31:02,220 That means a couple of people have died already. 757 00:31:02,288 --> 00:31:04,890 [Laughs] Isn't that funny? 758 00:31:04,957 --> 00:31:06,958 Stay close to the candles. 759 00:31:07,026 --> 00:31:10,328 The staircase can be treacherous. 760 00:31:12,698 --> 00:31:14,199 In High Anxiety, 761 00:31:14,267 --> 00:31:16,301 director Mel Brooks suggested Leachman 762 00:31:16,369 --> 00:31:17,936 play the role of Nurse Diesel 763 00:31:18,004 --> 00:31:19,905 just like she had played Frau Blucher, 764 00:31:19,972 --> 00:31:21,573 but the actress had another idea. 765 00:31:21,641 --> 00:31:22,707 LEACHMAN: He said, 766 00:31:22,775 --> 00:31:24,576 "Oh, well, how do you want to play it?" 767 00:31:24,644 --> 00:31:27,179 And I said, "I don't know, but I'm so hateful and evil, 768 00:31:27,246 --> 00:31:29,047 I don't want anybody to recognize me, 769 00:31:29,115 --> 00:31:31,917 and I think they know my smile from The Mary Tyler Moore Show, 770 00:31:31,984 --> 00:31:35,654 so I think maybe if I don't smile, 771 00:31:35,721 --> 00:31:38,990 [Mumbling] and I kind of talk like that." 772 00:31:39,058 --> 00:31:40,826 Nurse Diesel! 773 00:31:40,893 --> 00:31:43,395 Are you all right? 774 00:31:45,465 --> 00:31:46,698 Yes. 775 00:31:46,766 --> 00:31:48,834 We heard some weird noises emanating from the room. 776 00:31:48,901 --> 00:31:49,835 We were...worried. 777 00:31:49,902 --> 00:31:52,337 Weird noises? 778 00:31:52,405 --> 00:31:54,172 It was the TV. 779 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,408 Sorry it disturbed you. 780 00:31:56,476 --> 00:31:58,143 I've turned it down. 781 00:31:58,211 --> 00:32:00,846 Is there anything else? It is rather late. 782 00:32:00,913 --> 00:32:03,782 Leachman's acting skills were so strong, 783 00:32:03,850 --> 00:32:06,818 she could play an over-the-top comic role 784 00:32:06,886 --> 00:32:10,455 for Mel Brooks one day and an intensely serious role 785 00:32:10,523 --> 00:32:12,591 for Peter Bogdanovich the next. 786 00:32:12,658 --> 00:32:16,228 [Dish rattling] 787 00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:19,931 What am I doing apologizing to you? 788 00:32:19,999 --> 00:32:23,001 Why am I always apologizing to you, 789 00:32:23,069 --> 00:32:26,004 you little bastard? 790 00:32:26,072 --> 00:32:28,940 In The Last Picture Show, Leachman played Ruth Popper, 791 00:32:29,008 --> 00:32:31,409 the role that would earn her an Academy Award 792 00:32:31,477 --> 00:32:34,813 thanks to the power of this scene. 793 00:32:34,881 --> 00:32:36,615 I haven't done anything wrong. 794 00:32:36,682 --> 00:32:38,383 Why can't I quit apologizing? 795 00:32:38,451 --> 00:32:40,118 You're the one ought to be sorry! 796 00:32:40,186 --> 00:32:41,786 I wouldn't still be in my bathrobe 797 00:32:41,854 --> 00:32:42,988 if it hadn't been for you. 798 00:32:43,055 --> 00:32:44,756 I'd have had my clothes on hours ago. 799 00:32:44,824 --> 00:32:47,926 You're the one made me quit caring if I got dressed or not! 800 00:32:47,994 --> 00:32:49,661 [Sighs] 801 00:32:49,729 --> 00:32:53,164 As she got older, Cloris Leachman found herself 802 00:32:53,232 --> 00:32:56,535 back on television, ntinuing to create 803 00:32:56,602 --> 00:32:58,737 a unique character for each role. 804 00:33:01,374 --> 00:33:04,075 ["Jingle Bells" playing] 805 00:33:04,143 --> 00:33:07,045 You do this to torture me? To hurt me? 806 00:33:07,113 --> 00:33:08,380 You don't like Christmas music? 807 00:33:08,447 --> 00:33:10,215 It sounds like the song they sang 808 00:33:10,283 --> 00:33:12,484 when they would ride through the villages 809 00:33:12,552 --> 00:33:14,486 and throw the babies into the fire. 810 00:33:14,554 --> 00:33:16,621 They sang "Jingle Bells"? 811 00:33:16,689 --> 00:33:19,758 They sang something. 812 00:33:19,825 --> 00:33:22,561 I have a -- a knitting needle, 813 00:33:22,628 --> 00:33:26,498 my grandson's here, perfectly lovely darling boy. 814 00:33:26,566 --> 00:33:30,635 ["Jingle Bells" plays] 815 00:33:30,703 --> 00:33:32,938 And I get mad -- I don't know what -- 816 00:33:33,005 --> 00:33:35,774 I stab him with my knitting needle in his thigh, 817 00:33:35,841 --> 00:33:36,908 and he goes, "Ow!" 818 00:33:36,976 --> 00:33:38,343 ["Jingle Bells" plays] 819 00:33:38,411 --> 00:33:41,346 Ow! God, what the hell is wrong with you? 820 00:33:41,414 --> 00:33:43,515 You like pushing me. That's what happens 821 00:33:43,583 --> 00:33:45,250 when you push, big, tough guy. 822 00:33:45,318 --> 00:33:49,588 Oh, and I -- and because he goes on about it, 823 00:33:49,655 --> 00:33:52,958 I jiggle -- I -- oh! I'm just horrible-- 824 00:33:53,025 --> 00:33:55,026 [Laughs] 825 00:33:55,094 --> 00:33:56,261 Isn't that terrible? 826 00:33:56,329 --> 00:33:58,463 You shouldn't even be allowed to be a grandma! 827 00:33:58,531 --> 00:33:59,965 Are you finished? 828 00:34:00,032 --> 00:34:02,934 Yes! I am -- Ow! Ah! 829 00:34:03,002 --> 00:34:04,402 Ah! 830 00:34:04,470 --> 00:34:07,739 Oh! I am so sorry. 831 00:34:07,807 --> 00:34:11,076 I should have kissed your boo-boos and made them better. 832 00:34:11,143 --> 00:34:14,980 It's always been a big challenge not to repeat myself 833 00:34:15,047 --> 00:34:16,681 and not to do clichés. 834 00:34:16,749 --> 00:34:19,751 Even a script will say, "She comes and sits," 835 00:34:19,819 --> 00:34:21,820 and, oh, you don't want to sit, then. 836 00:34:21,887 --> 00:34:24,556 You find out a way to do something else 837 00:34:24,624 --> 00:34:28,226 or maybe start to sit and not or get on one leg or lean. 838 00:34:28,294 --> 00:34:30,061 You've lost your mind and you're never lucid 839 00:34:30,129 --> 00:34:31,363 for very long, so listen up. 840 00:34:31,430 --> 00:34:34,199 I understand, go, let's do this. 841 00:34:34,266 --> 00:34:36,968 We'd like you to quit smoking. 842 00:34:37,036 --> 00:34:38,203 What are you talking about? 843 00:34:38,270 --> 00:34:40,138 You guys aren't letting me smoke, are you? 844 00:34:40,206 --> 00:34:43,408 I quit smoking in 1971. 845 00:34:43,476 --> 00:34:45,744 -You did? -Yeah. 846 00:34:45,811 --> 00:34:47,512 I quit when Virginia was born. 847 00:34:47,580 --> 00:34:49,614 You quit smoking for me? 848 00:34:49,682 --> 00:34:51,182 If you're Virginia, yeah. 849 00:34:51,250 --> 00:34:56,521 I wanted to live long enough to see what you'd grow up to be. 850 00:34:56,589 --> 00:34:58,256 Doesn't look like it was worth the wait. 851 00:34:58,324 --> 00:35:01,660 Well, I think it's fun to bring comedy to serious things 852 00:35:01,727 --> 00:35:03,962 and bring serious things to comedy. 853 00:35:04,030 --> 00:35:06,564 And we won't let you smoke anymore. 854 00:35:06,632 --> 00:35:08,066 In fact, since you're quitting, 855 00:35:08,134 --> 00:35:10,402 no one in this house is going to smoke anymore. 856 00:35:10,469 --> 00:35:11,936 [Dog barking] 857 00:35:12,004 --> 00:35:13,605 [Lighter flicks] 858 00:35:17,076 --> 00:35:18,643 Oh... 859 00:35:20,279 --> 00:35:21,813 Good luck with that. 860 00:35:23,749 --> 00:35:26,584 For a versatile actor like Cloris Leachman, 861 00:35:26,652 --> 00:35:29,087 the subtle nuances of each character 862 00:35:29,155 --> 00:35:31,456 were the key to her performances. 863 00:35:31,524 --> 00:35:34,259 But another group of comedy actors 864 00:35:34,326 --> 00:35:37,529 were quite happy to play it big and broad 865 00:35:37,596 --> 00:35:40,532 in iconic roles that audiences loved. 866 00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:44,102 Junior. Junior! 867 00:35:44,170 --> 00:35:45,170 Junior. 868 00:35:45,237 --> 00:35:46,604 Don't stop me now, Mama! 869 00:35:46,672 --> 00:35:49,340 I'm past the point of no return! 870 00:35:49,408 --> 00:35:50,742 [Laughter] 871 00:35:52,745 --> 00:35:55,847 Jimmy Walker played just one role on television, 872 00:35:55,915 --> 00:35:58,850 yet few actors have shot to prominence more quickly 873 00:35:58,918 --> 00:36:01,686 or created more controversy than Walker did 874 00:36:01,754 --> 00:36:04,189 on a show called Good Times. 875 00:36:04,256 --> 00:36:06,491 I came on to be funny. 876 00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:08,159 That was my plan of attack. 877 00:36:08,227 --> 00:36:12,197 A black family should have a black symbol. 878 00:36:12,264 --> 00:36:15,166 If Mama sees that there, she's gonna kill you. 879 00:36:15,234 --> 00:36:19,104 Jesus may have your soul, but Mama gonna have your behind. 880 00:36:19,171 --> 00:36:21,072 [Laughter] 881 00:36:21,140 --> 00:36:24,743 When I come out, I want nuclear bomb comedy, 882 00:36:24,810 --> 00:36:27,479 and I don't think anybody else on the show -- 883 00:36:27,546 --> 00:36:29,547 they're actors, so they're thinking, 884 00:36:29,615 --> 00:36:31,816 "We're acting." I came out as a stand-up. 885 00:36:31,884 --> 00:36:33,318 Different deal. 886 00:36:33,385 --> 00:36:38,156 And, Junior, don't think of taking mail that ain't ours. 887 00:36:38,224 --> 00:36:43,628 [Laughter] 888 00:36:43,696 --> 00:36:47,465 I don't take things, Mama, I find them. 889 00:36:47,533 --> 00:36:49,634 [Laughter] 890 00:36:49,702 --> 00:36:53,638 Then don't find any mail that ain't ours. 891 00:36:53,706 --> 00:36:55,874 God didn't make man to steal. 892 00:36:55,941 --> 00:36:58,943 Then how come he gave us more pockets than hands? 893 00:36:59,011 --> 00:37:00,779 [Laughter] 894 00:37:00,846 --> 00:37:03,615 Producer Norman Lear had designed Good Times 895 00:37:03,682 --> 00:37:05,116 as a vehicle to portray 896 00:37:05,184 --> 00:37:07,352 the African American experience, 897 00:37:07,419 --> 00:37:10,955 but Jimmy Walker's character became so popular so fast, 898 00:37:11,023 --> 00:37:12,791 he changed the direction of the show. 899 00:37:12,858 --> 00:37:15,593 Overnight, Walker's comic catchphrase 900 00:37:15,661 --> 00:37:18,496 became part of the national vocabulary. 901 00:37:18,564 --> 00:37:21,266 Dyn-o-mite! 902 00:37:21,333 --> 00:37:22,667 Dyn-o-mite! 903 00:37:22,735 --> 00:37:25,370 Dyn-o-mite! 904 00:37:25,437 --> 00:37:28,106 "Dyn-o-mite" made Jimmy Walker famous, 905 00:37:28,174 --> 00:37:30,642 but the very first time he used it, 906 00:37:30,709 --> 00:37:32,210 Walker wasn't so sure. 907 00:37:32,278 --> 00:37:34,212 WALKER: Director John Rich, he said, 908 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,980 "I want you to do it like this," 909 00:37:36,048 --> 00:37:38,683 and I went, "John, that's a little silly. 910 00:37:38,751 --> 00:37:42,220 That's -- to just have somebody stand up 911 00:37:42,288 --> 00:37:44,722 and say 'dynamite' in the middle of the show?" 912 00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:46,991 He says, "This thing is going to be big." 913 00:37:47,059 --> 00:37:49,093 Dyn-o-mite! 914 00:37:49,161 --> 00:37:52,864 [Applause] 915 00:37:52,932 --> 00:37:57,902 Jimmy Walker's outsized acting was popular from the start, 916 00:37:57,970 --> 00:38:01,472 but backstage, controversy was brewing. 917 00:38:01,540 --> 00:38:04,609 I thought that they -- we had lost the focus, 918 00:38:04,677 --> 00:38:06,911 which was the family as a whole 919 00:38:06,979 --> 00:38:09,480 and not just, you know, buffooning. 920 00:38:09,548 --> 00:38:12,951 Today hasn't been a good day in the chicken delivering business. 921 00:38:13,018 --> 00:38:15,787 Well, what happened? Somebody rip off the coleslaw? 922 00:38:15,855 --> 00:38:16,788 [Laughter] 923 00:38:16,856 --> 00:38:18,756 No, worse than that. 924 00:38:18,824 --> 00:38:20,225 I lost my job. 925 00:38:20,292 --> 00:38:21,326 You lost your job? 926 00:38:21,393 --> 00:38:22,927 Oh, honey, what happened? 927 00:38:22,995 --> 00:38:25,396 What, did they catch you finger-licking again? 928 00:38:25,464 --> 00:38:26,731 [Laughter] 929 00:38:26,799 --> 00:38:29,267 And I made it clear as to what my feelings were, 930 00:38:29,335 --> 00:38:31,469 that, you know, how much more of the -- 931 00:38:31,537 --> 00:38:34,005 how many more chicken hats and how -- you know, 932 00:38:34,073 --> 00:38:35,340 how long can we do this? 933 00:38:35,407 --> 00:38:38,109 WALKER: As talent, I don't think 934 00:38:38,177 --> 00:38:42,313 Norman Lear agrees with anything that I've ever done. 935 00:38:42,381 --> 00:38:46,451 I think that Norman felt that his show was hijacked, 936 00:38:46,518 --> 00:38:48,720 his idea, what he wanted to do, 937 00:38:48,787 --> 00:38:51,890 and I think to this day, he still regrets that. 938 00:38:51,957 --> 00:38:56,127 Sometimes we would have a moment, 939 00:38:56,195 --> 00:38:58,129 and Norman Lear would always say, 940 00:38:58,197 --> 00:39:00,832 "Well, didn't that moment feel much better than 941 00:39:00,900 --> 00:39:03,034 that tomfoolery you're always doing?" 942 00:39:03,102 --> 00:39:05,270 And I would go, "No. 943 00:39:05,337 --> 00:39:07,639 That's it. I'm here for laughs. 944 00:39:07,706 --> 00:39:09,540 If you need a laugh, let me bring it. 945 00:39:09,608 --> 00:39:12,343 I'm coming in on the big Boeing 707. 946 00:39:12,411 --> 00:39:13,878 I'm trying to kill." 947 00:39:13,946 --> 00:39:17,015 For Walker, sitcoms should be about laughs, 948 00:39:17,082 --> 00:39:20,351 and the way to get laughs is to play it big. 949 00:39:20,419 --> 00:39:25,523 In any sitcom you do, someone has to be the guy 950 00:39:25,591 --> 00:39:27,458 to take the pie. 951 00:39:27,526 --> 00:39:31,529 But that I mean that person has to be the one 952 00:39:31,597 --> 00:39:33,865 that you look to laughs. 953 00:39:33,933 --> 00:39:35,400 You've got to commit, 954 00:39:35,467 --> 00:39:37,869 snot's got to come out your nose, 955 00:39:37,937 --> 00:39:39,570 your eyes got to water, 956 00:39:39,638 --> 00:39:42,206 you've got to have hands flapping. 957 00:39:44,877 --> 00:39:47,378 You've got to get messy in comedy. 958 00:39:47,446 --> 00:39:48,746 It's got to be ugly. 959 00:39:48,814 --> 00:39:50,815 You've got to take the pie. 960 00:39:50,883 --> 00:39:53,418 Somebody -- and the person that takes the pie 961 00:39:53,485 --> 00:39:55,820 usually is going to surface, 'cause that's where 962 00:39:55,888 --> 00:39:58,022 the person -- that's where people gravitate. 963 00:39:58,090 --> 00:40:01,693 Much of Jimmy Walker's appeal came from his ability 964 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,629 to use his wiry frame for comic effect. 965 00:40:04,697 --> 00:40:06,998 It's part of a long tradition of TV actors 966 00:40:07,066 --> 00:40:09,100 best known for their physical comedy, 967 00:40:09,168 --> 00:40:11,069 a group that includes Art Carney, 968 00:40:11,136 --> 00:40:13,237 Don Knotts, Penny Marshall, 969 00:40:13,305 --> 00:40:16,574 John Ritter, and Michael Richards. 970 00:40:16,642 --> 00:40:18,943 Man, these are tight! 971 00:40:19,011 --> 00:40:20,111 Squinch your hips in! 972 00:40:20,179 --> 00:40:22,013 I am squinching my hips! 973 00:40:22,081 --> 00:40:24,615 Squinch 'em! 974 00:40:24,683 --> 00:40:27,719 [Laughter] 975 00:40:27,786 --> 00:40:29,287 It's not gonna work. It's not gonna work. 976 00:40:29,355 --> 00:40:31,055 Let me just think for a second here. 977 00:40:31,123 --> 00:40:32,724 You'd better get me -- 978 00:40:32,791 --> 00:40:34,993 [Laughter] 979 00:40:35,060 --> 00:40:37,495 [Telephone jingles] 980 00:40:37,563 --> 00:40:39,998 Here, get me -- get me -- get me -- 981 00:40:40,065 --> 00:40:41,399 Oh, hold on, hold on. 982 00:40:41,467 --> 00:40:42,934 Hold it, look. 983 00:40:43,002 --> 00:40:45,470 You're gonna need the jaws of life to get out of those things. 984 00:40:45,537 --> 00:40:49,073 Among television's all-time most-gifted 985 00:40:49,141 --> 00:40:51,476 physical performers, Dick Van Dyke. 986 00:40:51,543 --> 00:40:55,513 ANNOUNCER: The Dick Van Dyke Show. 987 00:40:55,581 --> 00:40:57,482 Starring Dick Van Dyke. 988 00:40:57,549 --> 00:40:58,783 He missed the ottoman sometimes 989 00:40:58,851 --> 00:41:00,852 and sometimes he tripped over the ottoman. 990 00:41:03,822 --> 00:41:05,757 Loved it. I just loved it. Still love it. 991 00:41:05,824 --> 00:41:08,092 CONDUCTOR: And Clarksville! 992 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,961 That's our train! 993 00:41:10,029 --> 00:41:14,098 As a boy, Dick Van Dyke spent hours in the movie theater 994 00:41:14,166 --> 00:41:17,101 carefully studying his favorite physical comics. 995 00:41:17,169 --> 00:41:19,037 If there was a Laurel & Hardy, 996 00:41:19,104 --> 00:41:21,439 my mother would have to come and get me, 997 00:41:21,507 --> 00:41:24,642 because I would sit through two or three runnings of it. 998 00:41:24,710 --> 00:41:26,010 I just loved those guys. 999 00:41:28,514 --> 00:41:30,548 Come on, Stan! 1000 00:41:30,616 --> 00:41:32,517 This is the last train today! 1001 00:41:32,584 --> 00:41:34,819 Come on! 1002 00:41:38,190 --> 00:41:40,858 Van Dyke got his first chance to showcase his skills 1003 00:41:40,926 --> 00:41:43,528 on national television on Pat Boone's variety show 1004 00:41:43,595 --> 00:41:45,663 in 1958. 1005 00:41:45,731 --> 00:41:48,933 [Stairs creaking] 1006 00:41:49,001 --> 00:41:50,501 [Bicycle horn honks] 1007 00:41:50,569 --> 00:41:51,903 [Laughter] 1008 00:41:51,970 --> 00:41:55,273 [Horn honks down stairs] 1009 00:41:55,340 --> 00:41:57,108 [Clock cuckooing] 1010 00:41:57,176 --> 00:41:59,644 [Laughter] 1011 00:41:59,711 --> 00:42:03,281 Van Dyke's physical skills were unlike any other 1012 00:42:03,348 --> 00:42:05,049 comedy performer on television. 1013 00:42:05,117 --> 00:42:07,819 [Wind blowing] 1014 00:42:07,886 --> 00:42:09,587 [Laughter] 1015 00:42:18,197 --> 00:42:19,764 [Laughter] 1016 00:42:29,575 --> 00:42:31,642 That same year, Van Dyke landed a guest shot 1017 00:42:31,710 --> 00:42:36,214 on Phil Silvers' show and buzz began to build. 1018 00:42:36,281 --> 00:42:38,349 They had me on that show playing a hillbilly 1019 00:42:38,417 --> 00:42:40,017 who could pitch with both hands. 1020 00:42:40,085 --> 00:42:42,420 Got any more throws like that? 1021 00:42:42,488 --> 00:42:44,288 Yeah, I've got one I call my bender. 1022 00:42:44,356 --> 00:42:45,389 Your bender. 1023 00:42:45,457 --> 00:42:47,058 Yeah, that's in case of a squirrel 1024 00:42:47,126 --> 00:42:48,392 a-hiding behind a tree. 1025 00:42:48,460 --> 00:42:49,427 I'll show it to you. 1026 00:42:49,495 --> 00:42:51,729 [Laughter] 1027 00:42:51,797 --> 00:42:53,397 Wait, hold on. The target's over there. 1028 00:42:53,465 --> 00:42:54,465 I know. 1029 00:42:54,533 --> 00:42:57,101 He knows, he knows. 1030 00:42:59,138 --> 00:43:00,438 [Laughter] 1031 00:43:00,506 --> 00:43:01,772 [Man yells] 1032 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,574 A fastball, a change of pace, a curve, 1033 00:43:03,642 --> 00:43:04,742 it's too good to be true! 1034 00:43:04,810 --> 00:43:06,844 I could kill a squirrel with either hand, 1035 00:43:06,912 --> 00:43:08,880 and he tried to sell me to the Yankees. 1036 00:43:08,947 --> 00:43:10,681 As a pitcher. 1037 00:43:10,749 --> 00:43:13,084 --Did you say Yankees? -Yeah. 1038 00:43:13,152 --> 00:43:14,886 Now, listen, now, keep this as a surprise, Hank. 1039 00:43:14,953 --> 00:43:17,488 You're going to get a tryout with the New York Yankees! 1040 00:43:17,556 --> 00:43:19,657 Oh, I don't reckon I can do that, sergeant. 1041 00:43:19,725 --> 00:43:21,859 My daddy wouldn't hold still for me being on 1042 00:43:21,927 --> 00:43:23,528 the same side with the Yankees. 1043 00:43:23,595 --> 00:43:25,029 Oh, wait a minute, what is this? 1044 00:43:25,097 --> 00:43:26,664 The Civil War's been over 90 years! 1045 00:43:26,732 --> 00:43:28,966 Well, I'm sorry, sergeant, but my pappy says 1046 00:43:29,034 --> 00:43:30,434 General Lee give up too soon. 1047 00:43:31,570 --> 00:43:34,205 Dick Van Dyke is a very adroit man with comedy. 1048 00:43:34,273 --> 00:43:35,673 He can do physical comedy 1049 00:43:35,741 --> 00:43:37,875 and he does spoken comedy very well. 1050 00:43:39,478 --> 00:43:42,880 Dick Van Dyke landed his own sitcom in 1961, 1051 00:43:42,948 --> 00:43:44,815 but the first scripts weren't written 1052 00:43:44,883 --> 00:43:47,218 to take advantage of his physical comedy skills, 1053 00:43:47,286 --> 00:43:50,454 and so Van Dyke would try to work in bits each week. 1054 00:43:50,522 --> 00:43:54,125 VAN DYKE: We did a lot of improv during the week of rehearsal, 1055 00:43:54,193 --> 00:43:56,460 physical pieces that I would put in, 1056 00:43:56,528 --> 00:43:58,763 and by the time it got to showtime, 1057 00:43:58,830 --> 00:44:00,932 we were so excited to present it. 1058 00:44:00,999 --> 00:44:03,534 ¶ Everybody ¶ 1059 00:44:03,602 --> 00:44:06,037 ¶ And now you're doing the twist ¶ 1060 00:44:06,104 --> 00:44:08,706 ¶ Everybody ¶ 1061 00:44:08,774 --> 00:44:11,409 ¶ You're gonna be getting a kiss ¶ 1062 00:44:11,476 --> 00:44:14,779 He will break into a tap dance at the drop of a hat 1063 00:44:14,846 --> 00:44:19,450 and he can do card tricks and he can do impressions. 1064 00:44:19,518 --> 00:44:21,752 He's just wonderful, but he doesn't flaunt it. 1065 00:44:21,820 --> 00:44:25,223 Physical comedy always has the potential for injury, 1066 00:44:25,290 --> 00:44:28,226 and The Dick Van Dyke Show was no exception. 1067 00:44:28,293 --> 00:44:30,094 Today's modern-day comedian 1068 00:44:30,162 --> 00:44:32,063 comes out in front of his audience 1069 00:44:32,130 --> 00:44:34,565 and talks to them in a relaxed -- oh! 1070 00:44:34,633 --> 00:44:36,434 [Laughter] 1071 00:44:36,501 --> 00:44:38,035 I'd sometimes come in on a Saturday 1072 00:44:38,103 --> 00:44:39,770 to come up with something... 1073 00:44:39,838 --> 00:44:43,040 Laughing at people in pain is a manifestation of 1074 00:44:43,108 --> 00:44:45,509 a deep-seated hostility. 1075 00:44:45,577 --> 00:44:51,382 [Laughter] 1076 00:44:51,450 --> 00:44:54,085 [Laughs] 1077 00:44:54,152 --> 00:44:55,920 Thank goodness we have reached a point 1078 00:44:55,988 --> 00:44:58,256 in our civilization today where we no longer laugh 1079 00:44:58,323 --> 00:45:01,192 at people destroying themselves. 1080 00:45:01,260 --> 00:45:04,495 [Laughter] 1081 00:45:04,563 --> 00:45:06,464 It was one of my favorite things. 1082 00:45:06,531 --> 00:45:08,099 I'm very happy to say 1083 00:45:08,166 --> 00:45:10,468 that you'd have to look all over the world 1084 00:45:10,535 --> 00:45:13,671 to find someone who would laugh at a man, say, falling down. 1085 00:45:13,739 --> 00:45:15,573 Oh, no! 1086 00:45:15,641 --> 00:45:18,042 [Laughter] 1087 00:45:18,110 --> 00:45:20,378 It did hurt. I didn't do it right. 1088 00:45:20,445 --> 00:45:22,680 But it's funny to lo at. 1089 00:45:24,783 --> 00:45:26,651 The Dick Van Dyke Show was performed 1090 00:45:26,718 --> 00:45:28,052 in front of a live audience, 1091 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,221 because even for physical comedians, 1092 00:45:30,289 --> 00:45:32,356 the feedback of an audience is key. 1093 00:45:32,424 --> 00:45:34,759 I just don't see how people do comedy shows 1094 00:45:34,826 --> 00:45:38,796 without an audience, because they do half the work. 1095 00:45:38,864 --> 00:45:41,999 They're the ones that give you the timing. 1096 00:45:42,067 --> 00:45:44,368 You go with their reaction. 1097 00:45:44,436 --> 00:45:46,404 And I can't work without an audience. 1098 00:45:46,471 --> 00:45:50,408 At the very end of the show, I didn't handle myself too well 1099 00:45:50,475 --> 00:45:51,976 with that Patrick rat. 1100 00:45:52,044 --> 00:45:55,112 Aw. He got you to say something embarrassing, 1101 00:45:55,180 --> 00:45:56,947 didn't he? What was it? 1102 00:45:57,015 --> 00:45:59,350 I said Alan Brady is bald. 1103 00:45:59,418 --> 00:46:03,587 [Laughter] 1104 00:46:03,655 --> 00:46:07,224 I just don't understand how people can not have that, 1105 00:46:07,292 --> 00:46:11,128 you know, that interplay, 'cause that's what makes comedy. 1106 00:46:11,196 --> 00:46:12,530 Oh, without an audience, 1107 00:46:12,597 --> 00:46:14,365 I don't know what I would have done. 1108 00:46:14,433 --> 00:46:18,836 An audience may have been critical for Dick Van Dyke, 1109 00:46:18,904 --> 00:46:21,605 but the more recent crop of television comedians 1110 00:46:21,673 --> 00:46:24,342 have eliminated the studio audience altogether. 1111 00:46:24,409 --> 00:46:26,777 They represent a new kind of comedy actor, 1112 00:46:26,845 --> 00:46:28,312 confident in the writing, 1113 00:46:28,380 --> 00:46:30,514 less worried about instant feedback. 1114 00:46:30,582 --> 00:46:33,818 Among the most successful, Tina Fey. 1115 00:46:33,885 --> 00:46:36,320 I'm not over it, and now I'm wearing this! 1116 00:46:36,388 --> 00:46:38,756 What is the deal with my life? 1117 00:46:38,824 --> 00:46:40,358 Are you imitating me? 1118 00:46:40,425 --> 00:46:43,661 No! This is what I sound like when I cry! 1119 00:46:43,729 --> 00:46:45,296 I think I'm a little insulted! 1120 00:46:45,364 --> 00:46:47,598 You're insulted? I'm crying! 1121 00:46:47,666 --> 00:46:51,135 Well, it's mostly this kind of single-camera approach 1122 00:46:51,203 --> 00:46:53,671 is just what's in fashion right now. 1123 00:46:53,739 --> 00:46:57,842 I think you can make a very good comedy in front of an audience. 1124 00:46:57,909 --> 00:47:00,378 I don't -- some people I feel think there's a stigma to it, 1125 00:47:00,445 --> 00:47:03,614 that it's too easy, but you look at shows 1126 00:47:03,682 --> 00:47:07,184 like Cheers and -- well, only Cheers, guess. 1127 00:47:07,252 --> 00:47:11,522 Like many modern TV comedians, Tina Fey learned her craft 1128 00:47:11,590 --> 00:47:14,291 at Chicago's Second City through performances that 1129 00:47:14,359 --> 00:47:16,961 taught her how to deal with success and failure. 1130 00:47:17,028 --> 00:47:19,063 Kevin, as a former Miss Tennessee, 1131 00:47:19,131 --> 00:47:20,564 there's two things I know. 1132 00:47:20,632 --> 00:47:23,367 One of them is that the children are our future, 1133 00:47:23,435 --> 00:47:27,605 and the other is that people respond to friendliness, 1134 00:47:27,672 --> 00:47:30,741 and that is why a friendly company -- 1135 00:47:30,809 --> 00:47:33,544 -Is a successful company. -Yee-ha. 1136 00:47:33,612 --> 00:47:37,014 The high feeling of when something actually goes well 1137 00:47:37,082 --> 00:47:39,984 is great, but almost more valuable is the -- 1138 00:47:40,051 --> 00:47:43,421 the thrilling free fall of when it goes terribly 1139 00:47:43,488 --> 00:47:45,589 and just goes terribly and then you sort of realize, 1140 00:47:45,657 --> 00:47:48,392 "Well, we didn't die. Let's just start again." 1141 00:47:48,460 --> 00:47:50,928 That is I think the thing that's the best for you 1142 00:47:50,996 --> 00:47:52,730 and performers to experience. 1143 00:47:52,798 --> 00:47:56,200 At Saturday Night Live, Fey was hired as a writer 1144 00:47:56,268 --> 00:47:59,570 and didn't join the cast for three years. 1145 00:47:59,638 --> 00:48:02,973 Two days before Britney Spears' HBO concert from Las Vegas, 1146 00:48:03,041 --> 00:48:05,709 someone broke into her dressing room and stole 1147 00:48:05,777 --> 00:48:08,612 the white Elvis-inspired rhinestone jump suit that 1148 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,515 she wore to promote the event, and you know what? 1149 00:48:11,583 --> 00:48:12,917 I'm not giving it back. 1150 00:48:12,984 --> 00:48:15,886 [Laughter] 1151 00:48:15,954 --> 00:48:17,688 I'm keeping it now. It's mine. 1152 00:48:17,756 --> 00:48:20,558 When Fey got her own show, 30 Rock, 1153 00:48:20,625 --> 00:48:23,794 it retained a writer-centric approach. 1154 00:48:24,463 --> 00:48:26,730 Okay, are we going to talk about this like adults, 1155 00:48:26,798 --> 00:48:28,833 or are you just going to throw thing at me? 1156 00:48:31,169 --> 00:48:34,705 Okay, fine, get it out of your system. 1157 00:48:34,773 --> 00:48:36,340 All right, nothing that plugs in, you guys! 1158 00:48:36,408 --> 00:48:37,942 Nothing that could really hurt me! 1159 00:48:40,245 --> 00:48:42,546 There's a lot of work in that writers' room 1160 00:48:42,614 --> 00:48:45,516 to think about those jokes and those bits and that story. 1161 00:48:45,584 --> 00:48:48,419 But that focus on writing doesn't minimize 1162 00:48:48,487 --> 00:48:52,056 Fey's respect for actors who can make an audience laugh. 1163 00:48:52,123 --> 00:48:54,391 Going into something and I know where the jokes are, 1164 00:48:54,459 --> 00:48:56,026 and when the joke's well-executed, 1165 00:48:56,094 --> 00:48:58,128 that will make me laugh, but also when there's 1166 00:48:58,196 --> 00:49:00,231 a little nuance of performance that is sort of 1167 00:49:00,298 --> 00:49:04,101 an extra gift from the actor -- just a small facial thing 1168 00:49:04,169 --> 00:49:06,537 or a rhythmic thing -- that is -- 1169 00:49:06,605 --> 00:49:09,707 that is just an, you know, an unforeseen gift, 1170 00:49:09,774 --> 00:49:11,509 'cause you go in -- mostly as a writer, 1171 00:49:11,576 --> 00:49:12,743 you go into it hoping, like, 1172 00:49:12,811 --> 00:49:14,311 "Yeah, nobody screw up my jokes." 1173 00:49:14,379 --> 00:49:16,447 For Tina Fey, comedy acting combines 1174 00:49:16,515 --> 00:49:17,982 the preparation of a writer 1175 00:49:18,049 --> 00:49:20,484 and the spontaneity of an improv performer. 1176 00:49:20,552 --> 00:49:22,353 FEY: There's a lot of talk about 1177 00:49:22,420 --> 00:49:24,655 relaxed readiness, and so I think there's 1178 00:49:24,723 --> 00:49:27,258 a lot of preparation, preparation, preparation, 1179 00:49:27,325 --> 00:49:30,194 and then you want to be in a state of relaxed readiness 1180 00:49:30,262 --> 00:49:32,696 so that if something spontaneous does happen, 1181 00:49:32,764 --> 00:49:35,432 you're there and you're capable of seizing that moment, 1182 00:49:35,500 --> 00:49:38,035 but I think you get there with a lot of prep work. 1183 00:49:38,103 --> 00:49:39,737 My god, Lemon, what is that? 1184 00:49:39,804 --> 00:49:41,572 This is how I cry now! 1185 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,909 Ever since you made me get that off-brand eye surgery! 1186 00:49:44,976 --> 00:49:46,577 Lemon, what have we done to you? 1187 00:49:47,946 --> 00:49:50,281 It's okay. 1188 00:49:50,348 --> 00:49:52,816 Go home and get some rest. I'll take the hit. 1189 00:49:52,884 --> 00:49:55,119 I can't let you do that for me. 1190 00:49:55,186 --> 00:49:56,654 Let him go. 1191 00:50:00,725 --> 00:50:02,860 Like all accomplished comedy actors, 1192 00:50:02,928 --> 00:50:05,229 Tina Fey recognizes that the best comedy 1193 00:50:05,297 --> 00:50:08,465 is a reflection of reality, performances that tell a truth 1194 00:50:08,533 --> 00:50:10,000 while they make us laugh. 1195 00:50:10,068 --> 00:50:11,802 FEY: I think that's the biggest thing 1196 00:50:11,870 --> 00:50:13,203 you can teach someone, 1197 00:50:13,271 --> 00:50:16,340 is to play real characters that they know, or real -- 1198 00:50:16,408 --> 00:50:18,943 or to portray the world as they see it 1199 00:50:19,010 --> 00:50:21,712 and not the way they think the audience expects it. 1200 00:50:21,780 --> 00:50:23,581 You know, we used to -- Amy Poehler and I 1201 00:50:23,648 --> 00:50:25,482 used to tour together for the Second City, 1202 00:50:25,550 --> 00:50:27,117 and we would do these old sketches 1203 00:50:27,185 --> 00:50:29,019 that were handed to us that a lot of times 1204 00:50:29,087 --> 00:50:30,821 were just a way for the girlfriend, 1205 00:50:30,889 --> 00:50:32,690 the waitress to come in and be like, 1206 00:50:32,757 --> 00:50:35,326 "Honey, well what's this?" Well, I would never do that, 1207 00:50:35,393 --> 00:50:37,661 so let's change -- let's make up new ones. 1208 00:50:37,729 --> 00:50:40,764 Good evening, my fellow Americans. 1209 00:50:40,832 --> 00:50:42,399 [Laughter] 1210 00:50:42,467 --> 00:50:46,837 I was so excited when I was told Senator Clinton and I 1211 00:50:46,905 --> 00:50:49,340 would be addressing you tonight. 1212 00:50:49,407 --> 00:50:50,608 [Laughter] 1213 00:50:50,675 --> 00:50:54,011 And I was told I would be addressing you alone. 1214 00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:55,279 [Laughter] 1215 00:50:57,716 --> 00:51:00,851 There is no single path to acting funny. 1216 00:51:00,919 --> 00:51:03,787 TV has a long history of physical comedians, 1217 00:51:03,855 --> 00:51:06,023 method actors, and improvisers. 1218 00:51:06,091 --> 00:51:08,626 Each performer is unique, but together, 1219 00:51:08,693 --> 00:51:10,861 they've kept us laughing for 50 years. 1220 00:51:10,929 --> 00:51:12,162 Is it rewarding? Yeah. 1221 00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:14,164 But is it hard work? Oh, yeah. 1222 00:51:14,232 --> 00:51:16,867 And as you get older, it's like it's harder work. 1223 00:51:16,935 --> 00:51:19,937 I had heart surgery halfway through the last tour. 1224 00:51:20,005 --> 00:51:21,071 You know, almost killed you. 1225 00:51:21,139 --> 00:51:22,940 I'm back! Hee hee, way to go! 1226 00:51:23,008 --> 00:51:25,976 I'm getting letters from third generation now from -- 1227 00:51:26,044 --> 00:51:28,545 that show is still running around the world, 1228 00:51:28,613 --> 00:51:31,715 and I get letters from kids who enjoy the show. 1229 00:51:31,783 --> 00:51:33,150 Good feeling. 1230 00:51:33,218 --> 00:51:38,455 That is fun, to remind yourself that -- 1231 00:51:38,523 --> 00:51:42,059 that jokes can be enjoyed by a live audience. 1232 00:51:42,127 --> 00:51:44,928 If the audience doesn't laugh, then it's not funny. 1233 00:51:44,996 --> 00:51:45,929 The end of it. 1234 00:51:45,997 --> 00:51:47,097 There's no more discussion. 1235 00:51:47,165 --> 00:51:48,666 I'd love to know what's next. 1236 00:51:48,733 --> 00:51:50,801 I can't wait, so exciting. 1237 00:51:50,869 --> 00:51:52,069 It really is exciting. 1238 00:51:52,137 --> 00:51:58,075 How often, how often can you say to yourself 1239 00:51:58,143 --> 00:52:02,713 watching whatever scene it is 1240 00:52:02,781 --> 00:52:05,616 that puts you on the floor and you say, "God, 1241 00:52:05,684 --> 00:52:08,218 I don't know when I laughed as much as I did tonight"? 1242 00:52:08,286 --> 00:52:10,354 That's how rare it is. 1243 00:52:12,157 --> 00:52:15,159 They are the pioneers of television. 1244 00:54:18,683 --> 00:54:21,051 Have I done a lot of Shakespearean plays? No. 1245 00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:23,620 contributions to your PBS station 1246 00:54:23,688 --> 00:54:25,455 from viewers like you. 1247 00:54:26,424 --> 00:54:29,126 They played the doctors and nurses we watched every week. 1248 00:54:29,194 --> 00:54:30,627 But could I? 1249 00:54:30,695 --> 00:54:33,497 With help and the right director. 1250 00:54:33,565 --> 00:54:34,932 You could, dear boy. 1251 00:54:34,999 --> 00:54:37,100 Don't be afraid to enunciate. 1252 00:54:37,168 --> 00:54:41,405 I met Laurence Olivier when I did the first Academy Awards, 1253 00:54:41,472 --> 00:54:43,307 and they said, "Mr. Olivier, this is Robin Williams." 1254 00:54:43,374 --> 00:54:46,577 "Hello," and he said, "Are you wearing makeup?" 1255 00:54:46,644 --> 00:54:48,278 And I said, "Yes, Mr. Olivier." 1256 00:54:48,346 --> 00:54:50,314 And he said, "Don't. It makes you look effeminate." 1257 00:54:50,381 --> 00:54:51,915 Thank you, Larry. 1258 00:54:51,983 --> 00:54:53,217 [Laughs] 1259 00:54:53,284 --> 00:54:54,785 Kept that in mind. 1260 00:54:58,022 --> 00:55:00,958 For more insider features about your favorite TV stars, 1261 00:55:01,025 --> 00:55:03,393 stories you won't hear anywhere else, 1262 00:55:03,461 --> 00:55:06,230 visit pbs.org. 1263 00:55:09,601 --> 00:55:11,802 To order this program, visit us online 1264 00:55:11,870 --> 00:55:11,802 at shoppbs.org or call us at...