1 00:02:52,700 --> 00:02:57,413 VLADIMIR BUKOVSKY Soviet dissident 2 00:04:01,820 --> 00:04:07,129 NORMAN DAVIES, Historian, Cambridge University 3 00:05:32,660 --> 00:05:37,219 NIKOLAY MELNIK, survivor of the 1932/33 Famine | Potatoes, beets, cabbages. 4 00:05:37,820 --> 00:05:42,940 Salted cabbages were taken by the whole barrel. 5 00:05:46,500 --> 00:05:49,776 All edible goods were taken away. 6 00:05:50,060 --> 00:05:51,652 Everything! 7 00:06:01,300 --> 00:06:05,855 VOLODIMIR SERGIYCHUK, Historian, University of Kiev | When the food was taken away, 8 00:06:06,060 --> 00:06:10,292 peasants were also forbidden to seek it elsewhere. 9 00:06:10,500 --> 00:06:14,698 To buy, exchange or earn. 10 00:06:38,060 --> 00:06:42,972 BORISS SOKOLOV, Historian | They were dying. And they were not allowed into the cities. 11 00:06:43,180 --> 00:06:48,254 Special guard-squads prevented these dying, starving people from 12 00:06:48,420 --> 00:06:52,698 boarding the trains. Many died right by the railways 13 00:06:52,860 --> 00:06:55,090 leading to Kharkov, Kiev... 14 00:07:42,020 --> 00:07:45,695 They entered a house and asked: "where are your dead?" 15 00:07:45,980 --> 00:07:49,859 There was only a half-dead woman laying in the bed. 16 00:07:50,140 --> 00:07:54,770 They said: "Let's take her! She will die anyway." 17 00:07:54,980 --> 00:07:58,211 "Why come after her tomorrow?" 18 00:07:58,420 --> 00:08:02,208 She begged them: "Don't take me. I am still alive! I want to live!" 19 00:08:07,300 --> 00:08:13,177 MARIA ZAGUTS, survivor of the 1932/33 Famine | It was horrible! 20 00:08:14,540 --> 00:08:20,536 They were all dumped into the grave. The ground was moving. 21 00:08:36,020 --> 00:08:38,215 This is a sacred place for me. 22 00:08:38,420 --> 00:08:44,052 Because it is the resting place of the Famine victims, 23 00:08:44,260 --> 00:08:49,539 including my close relatives, my grandmother. 24 00:11:26,860 --> 00:11:33,457 PIERRE RIGOULOT, Historian, Institut d'histoire Sociale, Paris 25 00:11:52,300 --> 00:11:54,495 We must create a new man. 26 00:11:56,020 --> 00:12:00,810 And a new life form should appear! 27 00:12:21,900 --> 00:12:29,209 FRANÇOISE THOM, Professor of Modern History, Sorbonne 28 00:14:16,740 --> 00:14:21,737 GEORGE WATSON, Literary Historian, Cambridge University 29 00:19:01,100 --> 00:19:03,818 VLADIMIR BUKOVSKY Soviet dissident 30 00:20:03,660 --> 00:20:07,052 FRANÇOISE THOM, Professor of Modern History, Sorbonne 31 00:20:33,180 --> 00:20:36,536 You must all know half a dozen of people at least, 32 00:20:36,700 --> 00:20:38,895 who are of no use in this world. 33 00:20:39,100 --> 00:20:41,170 Who are more trouble than they are worth. 34 00:20:41,380 --> 00:20:44,338 Just put them there and say: "Now will you be kind enough 35 00:20:44,540 --> 00:20:47,737 to justify your existence?" 36 00:20:48,020 --> 00:20:53,731 "If you can't justify your existence, 37 00:20:53,940 --> 00:20:57,979 if you are not producing as much as you consume or preferably more, 38 00:20:58,180 --> 00:21:06,895 then clearly we cannot use our society for the purpose of keeping you alive. 39 00:21:07,100 --> 00:21:09,705 Because your life does not benefit us 40 00:21:09,740 --> 00:21:13,255 and it can't be of very much use to yourself. 41 00:23:26,340 --> 00:23:30,811 Let's go and denounce them! 42 00:23:31,020 --> 00:23:34,137 Then we can denounce even more of them, the ones who are left. 43 00:23:34,300 --> 00:23:38,612 Don't be afraid to do it. 44 00:23:57,340 --> 00:24:04,299 ALEXANDER GURYANOV, "Memorial" society, Moscow | In the 1930s the technology of murder and executions was introduced. 45 00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:09,972 Every administrative region had a designated area 46 00:24:10,140 --> 00:24:13,610 where corpses were to be buried. 47 00:24:26,820 --> 00:24:29,493 A person was taken down a corridor to the "red corner" 48 00:24:29,700 --> 00:24:34,330 There was the final ID check. 49 00:24:34,540 --> 00:24:37,691 The victim had to identify himself. 50 00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:40,255 Then he was led to that room. 51 00:24:40,780 --> 00:24:45,012 When he entered, he was shot. 52 00:24:48,340 --> 00:24:54,897 NICOLAS WERTH, co-author of "The Black Book of Communism" 53 00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:40,453 VLADIMIR KARPOV, former Soviet Colonel Khrushchev asked to increase his quota! 54 00:27:40,660 --> 00:27:44,539 He was allowed to kill 7 or 8 thousand "enemies" 55 00:27:44,660 --> 00:27:48,335 He asked: "Please increase my quota to 17000." 56 00:28:01,460 --> 00:28:06,338 MIKHAIL GORBACHEV, Soviet President | Stalin was awash in blood! I saw the death sentences, 57 00:28:06,540 --> 00:28:08,656 which he signed in packages. 58 00:28:08,860 --> 00:28:11,932 Together with Molotov, Voroshilov, Kaganovich and Zhdanov. 59 00:28:12,180 --> 00:28:15,252 They were the five most active. Molotov would always add: 60 00:28:15,500 --> 00:28:18,617 change "10 years" to "execution". Packages! 61 00:29:07,580 --> 00:29:10,136 NATALIA LEBEDEVA, Historian 62 00:29:10,171 --> 00:29:13,546 As a result, in 1937-1941, 11 million people were repressed. 63 00:29:13,946 --> 00:29:16,256 11 million! 64 00:29:16,460 --> 00:29:19,179 Can you imagine 65 00:29:19,380 --> 00:29:22,895 the scale of repression against their own people?! 66 00:30:54,580 --> 00:30:58,930 VLADIMIR BUKOVSKY Soviet dissident 67 00:32:26,140 --> 00:32:35,136 SERGEY SLUCH, Historian | According to all norms of international law, 68 00:32:35,300 --> 00:32:42,058 the decision of the Soviet Government to invade Poland 69 00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:45,531 was a clear act of aggression. 70 00:33:11,060 --> 00:33:16,054 Red Army in 1939 71 00:33:42,780 --> 00:33:46,970 NORMAN DAVIES, Historian, Cambridge University 72 00:34:33,260 --> 00:34:38,971 Initially, Ribentropp's proposal did not contain it. 73 00:34:39,980 --> 00:34:43,689 However strange it may seem, 74 00:34:43,900 --> 00:34:50,772 the initiator of this secret protocol was Stalin. 75 00:34:54,900 --> 00:34:59,735 But we denied it, because it was so aggressive, 76 00:34:59,940 --> 00:35:04,855 the Communist party could not have signed it. 77 00:35:05,300 --> 00:35:09,976 So, we denied it up to the last day! 78 00:35:23,020 --> 00:35:28,576 ARI VATANEN, member of the European Parliament 79 00:38:29,180 --> 00:38:35,528 When Berlin made the decision to stop using this base, 80 00:38:36,060 --> 00:38:43,095 German Admiral Raeder 81 00:38:43,260 --> 00:38:49,335 sent a letter to the Commander of the Soviet Navy, Kuznetsov, 82 00:38:49,460 --> 00:38:55,774 expressing deep gratitude for services provided to the German Navy. 83 00:41:20,940 --> 00:41:28,014 PIERRE RIGOULOT, Historian, Institut d'histoire Sociale, Paris 84 00:48:01,900 --> 00:48:06,893 VIKTOR SUVOROV, former Soviet Secret Agent A delegation of Gestapo came to the USSR 85 00:48:07,380 --> 00:48:13,728 to learn how to build concentration camps. 86 00:49:02,900 --> 00:49:05,130 It is in German... 87 00:49:05,340 --> 00:49:07,410 Beria's signature... 88 00:49:13,500 --> 00:49:16,810 Translation from the German: 89 00:49:17,500 --> 00:49:19,809 Reichsführer SS, Chief of the Security Main Office. 90 00:49:20,020 --> 00:49:21,976 Berlin, Nov. 3, 1938. 91 00:49:22,140 --> 00:49:24,449 With this warrant, my representative 92 00:49:24,660 --> 00:49:27,493 Standartenführer SS Mueller is given the authority to sign an agreement 93 00:49:27,700 --> 00:49:30,931 in Moscow on coordinated activities between the NKVD and 94 00:49:31,180 --> 00:49:35,173 the Security Main Office of Germany, on which we put high expectations 95 00:49:35,380 --> 00:49:37,211 related to strengthening the peace 96 00:49:37,460 --> 00:49:42,329 and security between our countries. 97 00:49:43,220 --> 00:49:45,415 Gruppenführer SS Heydrich. 98 00:49:51,820 --> 00:49:57,292 Attach to the main document. Lavrenty Beria. 99 00:51:11,500 --> 00:51:20,374 A secret agreement was signed between KGB and Gestapo. 100 00:51:20,580 --> 00:51:23,174 About collaboration. 101 00:51:23,780 --> 00:51:29,013 They accused me of lying, claiming that it was not true. 102 00:51:29,220 --> 00:51:34,055 We could not have signed such an agreement. 103 00:51:35,460 --> 00:51:43,251 NATALIA LEBEDEVA, Historian | This contradiction is amazing! While it is accepted that Stalin's regime 104 00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:49,855 was criminal, exception is made for the foreign affairs. 105 00:51:50,340 --> 00:51:54,458 If a regime is criminal, then it acts criminally in all areas, 106 00:51:54,700 --> 00:51:56,930 including foreign affairs. 107 00:51:57,180 --> 00:51:59,648 This should be accepted once and for all! 108 00:52:33,180 --> 00:52:35,899 The NKVD will propose to the Soviet Government 109 00:52:36,100 --> 00:52:38,216 a program 110 00:52:38,420 --> 00:52:41,776 to reduce the participation of Jews in State bodies, 111 00:52:41,980 --> 00:52:45,211 and to prohibit Jews 112 00:52:45,420 --> 00:52:48,856 from the areas of culture and education. 113 00:52:49,660 --> 00:52:52,697 Chief of GUGB of the Commissariat for Internal Affairs. 114 00:52:53,700 --> 00:52:54,689 Beria. 115 00:52:54,900 --> 00:52:58,893 Representative of the Chief of the Security Main Office of Germany, 116 00:52:59,020 --> 00:53:00,738 Mueller. 117 00:53:21,380 --> 00:53:24,292 This was a real war. 118 00:53:24,620 --> 00:53:28,579 A war against Jewish Fascism within the country. 119 00:53:53,540 --> 00:53:59,489 BORISS SOKOLOV, Historian | Because being a Jew, Litvinov was not fit 120 00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:05,252 for signing any agreement with Germany. 121 00:54:13,260 --> 00:54:20,008 NORMAN DAVIES, Historian, Cambridge University 122 00:54:48,420 --> 00:54:54,689 Stalin's police, the GPU has fallen to the level of the Nazi Gestapo. 123 00:57:21,580 --> 00:57:24,851 VLADIMIR BUKOVSKY Soviet dissident 124 00:57:57,860 --> 00:58:01,137 Politburo CK VKPb took the decision 125 00:58:01,260 --> 00:58:05,651 to shoot all prisoners of war from these 3 camps. 126 01:01:39,340 --> 01:01:42,412 Major Soprunenko who was carrying out executions in Katyn 127 01:01:43,220 --> 01:01:50,379 VIKTOR SUVOROV, former Soviet Secret Agent ...was decorated with the Medal of Honor. 128 01:01:51,780 --> 01:01:55,853 But Serov, the later chief of the KGB, 129 01:01:56,060 --> 01:01:59,576 for the shooting of Polish officers, he was awarded the order of Lenin, 130 01:01:59,780 --> 01:02:02,658 the highest State decoration. 131 01:03:22,340 --> 01:03:26,413 I swear to obey the orders 132 01:03:26,660 --> 01:03:32,849 of the Commander-in-Chief, Adolph Hitler. 133 01:03:44,460 --> 01:03:49,331 But if among us there will appear provocateurs, 134 01:03:49,540 --> 01:03:52,418 we ourselves will deal with them ruthlessly. 135 01:05:19,580 --> 01:05:27,776 EMMA KORPA, GULAG survivor | And then we dragged the sledges to the graveyard. 136 01:05:30,740 --> 01:05:41,259 When my son was dragged, the guards were not on duty. 137 01:05:41,860 --> 01:05:47,545 Children were not considered inmates, 138 01:05:47,580 --> 01:05:52,290 so they were buried in a civilian graveyard. 139 01:05:54,260 --> 01:06:05,137 And when another child died, I dragged him as well. 140 01:06:05,980 --> 01:06:14,697 Then I got a chance to visit my son's grave for the last time... 141 01:07:38,180 --> 01:07:44,531 CHRISTOPHER BEAZLEY, Historian, member of the European Parliament 142 01:07:56,300 --> 01:08:01,338 INESE VAIDERE, member of the European Parliament, Latvia 143 01:10:25,220 --> 01:10:31,292 RITA PAPINA, survivor of the Soviet terror We went out. There was a big puddle of blood. 144 01:10:35,420 --> 01:10:44,658 We collected it in a glass jar. Because it was our fathers blood. 145 01:10:50,340 --> 01:10:52,900 It is hard to speak about it. 146 01:10:54,740 --> 01:11:00,337 It is as if a scar was torn and is bleeding again. 147 01:12:47,660 --> 01:12:51,335 JANIS DZINTARS Moscow, 2005 148 01:13:37,540 --> 01:13:41,130 VLADIMIR PUTIN, former KGB Officer One needs to acknowledge, 149 01:13:41,340 --> 01:13:43,137 that the collapse of the Soviet Union 150 01:13:43,340 --> 01:13:48,858 was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century. 151 01:13:51,860 --> 01:13:54,294 Nobody wants to admit 152 01:13:54,500 --> 01:13:58,129 that one's ancestors were simple criminals. 153 01:14:02,340 --> 01:14:08,498 ANDRÉ BRIE, member of the European Parliament, Germany 154 01:14:58,100 --> 01:15:02,658 WOJCIECH ROSZKOWSKI, member of the European Parliament, Poland 155 01:15:03,020 --> 01:15:06,695 There is this feeling of inferiority, of national humiliation, 156 01:15:06,900 --> 01:15:09,937 which was in Germany after WW1, 157 01:15:10,100 --> 01:15:12,011 and we had it after the collapse of the Soviet Union. 158 01:15:12,220 --> 01:15:17,248 It is fertile soil for these new Nazis. 159 01:15:18,660 --> 01:15:25,611 This is exactly what led Germany to Fascism. 160 01:15:28,660 --> 01:15:33,609 Moscow, November 4. "THE DAY OF NATIONAL UNITY" 161 01:15:35,980 --> 01:15:39,609 Since Putin came to power, 162 01:15:39,820 --> 01:15:42,095 there has been 163 01:15:42,300 --> 01:15:45,895 a massive xenophobic propaganda from above. 164 01:15:49,580 --> 01:15:54,176 And people have begun to feel hatred toward foreigners, 165 01:15:54,380 --> 01:15:57,372 to people of other languages, other religions. 166 01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:07,457 The Russian mass media is working against Russia and its people, 167 01:16:07,660 --> 01:16:11,494 because it is in the hands of the Jewish mafia. 168 01:16:52,340 --> 01:16:54,774 Pick it up. And clean up after yourself. 169 01:16:59,260 --> 01:17:01,296 Do you speak Russian? 170 01:17:11,500 --> 01:17:14,298 I am a deputy in the State Duma, LDPR fraction. My name is 171 01:17:14,500 --> 01:17:18,539 Nikolay Kuryanovich. I am a member of the Security Committee. 172 01:17:18,740 --> 01:17:22,892 I would like to greet the national-patriots of Russia. 173 01:17:23,420 --> 01:17:25,490 Glory to Russia! 174 01:17:39,260 --> 01:17:42,775 We were arrested by the Russian National Socialists. 175 01:17:45,580 --> 01:17:47,457 Glory to Russia! 176 01:18:58,940 --> 01:19:08,656 RADKO MLADIC, war criminal, murderer of 8300 people 177 01:19:26,660 --> 01:19:28,616 Glory to Russia! 178 01:19:38,860 --> 01:19:43,536 Katyn. 179 01:19:44,820 --> 01:19:48,654 Lviv. 180 01:19:49,340 --> 01:19:54,733 Vinnica. 181 01:19:55,260 --> 01:19:58,616 Tartu. 182 01:20:38,020 --> 01:20:42,255 GIRTS V. KRISTOVSKIS, member of the European Parliament, Latvia 183 01:20:53,140 --> 01:20:57,768 MICHAEL GAHLER, member of the European Parliament, Germany