1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,100 Here, sweet Lord, at your service. 2 00:00:04,100 --> 00:00:07,780 Michael Caine is one of Britain's most successful movie stars. 3 00:00:07,780 --> 00:00:09,460 Good night, sweet prince. 4 00:00:09,460 --> 00:00:15,780 We've watched, as boyish good looks and curly blond hair have matured and aged. 5 00:00:15,780 --> 00:00:17,860 Tell me again and again. 6 00:00:17,860 --> 00:00:20,420 He's played a whole lifetime of roles. 7 00:00:20,420 --> 00:00:23,300 Roles that range from Jack the lad... 8 00:00:23,300 --> 00:00:26,100 You drop a tanner, look around, and what do you find? 9 00:00:26,100 --> 00:00:27,180 Ruby! 10 00:00:27,180 --> 00:00:29,780 ..to fading geriatric. Oh! 11 00:00:30,700 --> 00:00:35,860 Great performances, set over 50 years of change in the movies. 12 00:00:35,860 --> 00:00:38,660 He's spent a lifetime on our screens. 13 00:00:38,660 --> 00:00:40,860 Your life changes, buster. 14 00:00:40,860 --> 00:00:42,500 Not always for the better. 15 00:01:01,900 --> 00:01:05,980 He kind of made it possible for people like me 16 00:01:05,980 --> 00:01:09,900 to be in films, or to be taken seriously. 17 00:01:13,100 --> 00:01:17,740 If you can get Michael Caine in any part in your movie, 18 00:01:17,740 --> 00:01:20,940 over the title, you've got box office. 19 00:01:23,620 --> 00:01:26,180 It just seemed exactly right. 20 00:01:26,180 --> 00:01:30,260 Michael looked, sounded, behaved, like a movie star. 21 00:01:32,300 --> 00:01:35,420 He's been acting since before most of us were born. 22 00:01:35,420 --> 00:01:38,940 We've watched him grow up to be a huge international star. 23 00:01:38,940 --> 00:01:43,420 Now we can look back at the many faces of Michael Caine as they happened. 24 00:01:43,420 --> 00:01:46,060 He's always very current. 25 00:01:46,060 --> 00:01:49,340 He's moved with the century, I think, you know. 26 00:01:49,340 --> 00:01:52,780 His development as a person, a human being and an actor 27 00:01:52,780 --> 00:01:55,340 has developed as the century's gone on. 28 00:01:55,340 --> 00:01:57,420 With a wife like Ruby, you wouldn't want 29 00:01:57,420 --> 00:01:59,540 nothing on the side, you know what I mean? 30 00:01:59,540 --> 00:02:01,660 GIGGLING 31 00:02:01,660 --> 00:02:06,900 I think what his career has done is span an enormous number of different styles of film-making 32 00:02:06,900 --> 00:02:10,340 and the evolution of cinema, both in Britain and in Hollywood. 33 00:02:10,340 --> 00:02:13,020 That's the strength of his presence as an icon. 34 00:02:13,020 --> 00:02:15,820 He represents so many different kinds of film-making. 35 00:02:15,820 --> 00:02:20,300 There are other people, you know, Palmer. Why don't you try them? 36 00:02:20,300 --> 00:02:24,740 Michael Caine is iconic because of the way he looks, the way he sounds, the way he acts. 37 00:02:24,740 --> 00:02:26,500 He's like a national monument. 38 00:02:26,500 --> 00:02:29,260 If there was a Mount Rushmore of Hollywood stars, 39 00:02:29,260 --> 00:02:31,860 Michael Caine's face would be up there. 40 00:02:36,100 --> 00:02:40,300 As a teenager, Caine already had an eye for the girls. 41 00:02:40,300 --> 00:02:44,380 And it was the opposite sex that first drew him to the Clubland Youth Centre. 42 00:02:44,380 --> 00:02:47,940 Here he discovered a new passion. 43 00:02:47,940 --> 00:02:51,180 Right here is where I started. 44 00:02:51,180 --> 00:02:54,300 The very first time, at the age of 14, 45 00:02:54,300 --> 00:03:00,420 I came on to this stage to do a play called Rossum's Universal Robots. 46 00:03:00,420 --> 00:03:02,380 I got very good reviews for the play. 47 00:03:02,380 --> 00:03:06,220 Everybody thought I was marvellous in this play, 48 00:03:06,220 --> 00:03:10,420 but what I must point out is what I was playing was a robot - 49 00:03:10,420 --> 00:03:14,420 completely stiff, expressionless, with a flat voice, 50 00:03:14,420 --> 00:03:19,300 and I came on, and of course I was really, really right in the part. 51 00:03:19,300 --> 00:03:25,020 In the very early days of television, he took bit parts in plays that went out live. 52 00:03:25,020 --> 00:03:28,540 His first ever appearance was in The Lark, 53 00:03:28,540 --> 00:03:31,260 as a walk-on soldier, Boudousse. 54 00:03:31,260 --> 00:03:32,700 Hey there, Boudousse. 55 00:03:34,780 --> 00:03:37,380 Take her away and give her a ducking, and then lock her up. 56 00:03:37,380 --> 00:03:39,500 You can send her back to her father tomorrow. 57 00:03:39,500 --> 00:03:42,060 But no beating, I don't want any trouble, the girl's mad. 58 00:03:42,060 --> 00:03:44,220 You can lock me up, my Lord, I don't mind that, 59 00:03:44,220 --> 00:03:47,300 but when they let me out tomorrow evening I shall come back again. 60 00:03:47,300 --> 00:03:51,420 It will be simpler if you let me talk to you now. Million thunders! Don't I frighten you? 61 00:03:51,420 --> 00:03:52,900 No, my Lord. Not at all. 62 00:03:54,740 --> 00:03:56,620 Well, get back to your post. 63 00:03:56,620 --> 00:03:58,980 You don't need to stand here listening to this. 64 00:04:00,220 --> 00:04:04,900 So that was Michael Caine's first television entrance, and later we actually hear him speak. 65 00:04:04,900 --> 00:04:06,540 Boudousse. 66 00:04:07,940 --> 00:04:10,100 I'll take her out and give her a ducking, sir. 67 00:04:10,100 --> 00:04:14,260 No, you idiot. Fetch her some britches and bring a pair of horses, we're going for a gallop together. 68 00:04:14,260 --> 00:04:18,540 But the council, sir, it's four o'clock. It can wait till tomorrow. 69 00:04:18,540 --> 00:04:21,140 I've used my brains quite enough for today. 70 00:04:22,300 --> 00:04:26,260 He spent ten, hard, penniless years as a minor actor, 71 00:04:26,260 --> 00:04:31,780 but it wasn't his talent on stage that earned Michael Caine his ambition of being on the big screen. 72 00:04:31,780 --> 00:04:36,260 It was his time in National Service, as a real-life soldier in Korea. 73 00:04:38,420 --> 00:04:42,780 Well, A Hill In Korea was a very small-budget movie. 74 00:04:42,780 --> 00:04:49,020 He wrote to them and said he had been in the Korean war, so they saw him. 75 00:04:49,020 --> 00:04:52,220 He looked like a National Serviceman, 76 00:04:52,220 --> 00:04:56,180 and his knowledge of the war in Korea, 77 00:04:56,180 --> 00:05:00,420 he knew how the wear the uniform and things like that. 78 00:05:00,420 --> 00:05:03,340 He got the job, and it was no skin off their nose 79 00:05:03,340 --> 00:05:07,700 because it wasn't an important part, so he couldn't ruin anything. 80 00:05:07,700 --> 00:05:10,020 We arrive in Portugal where we were shooting it, 81 00:05:10,020 --> 00:05:12,060 go to the hotel, 82 00:05:12,060 --> 00:05:18,260 and we see that Stanley Baker, George Baker and Harry Andrews have got a room each. 83 00:05:18,260 --> 00:05:22,420 Small budget, you've all got to pair off and have a bedroom between two. 84 00:05:22,420 --> 00:05:24,060 Michael and I ended up in a room. 85 00:05:26,740 --> 00:05:29,020 He hadn't been to drama school. 86 00:05:29,020 --> 00:05:32,660 He had no pretensions to Shakespeare or the grand theatre. 87 00:05:32,660 --> 00:05:34,180 Here, tell you what. 88 00:05:34,180 --> 00:05:36,340 Let's have this war out on Arsenal's ground. 89 00:05:36,340 --> 00:05:38,900 Standard prices, our boys versus the Chinks. 90 00:05:38,900 --> 00:05:45,580 Character actors like Victor Madden and Michael Medwin were in every bloody film, and it was all fixed. 91 00:05:45,580 --> 00:05:48,980 Private Docker, the world's leading tank buster-upper. 92 00:05:48,980 --> 00:05:52,780 It's 1956, and a classic British war film. 93 00:05:52,780 --> 00:05:56,700 Stanley Baker takes on the entire Chinese army. 94 00:05:56,700 --> 00:05:58,100 You dirty little yellow... 95 00:06:04,180 --> 00:06:07,300 Things don't work out for Stanley's character. 96 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:08,500 Ugh! 97 00:06:08,500 --> 00:06:14,420 But he does cue Michael Caine's big-screen debut. Pity. 98 00:06:14,420 --> 00:06:16,140 He was the toughest bloke we'd got. 99 00:06:17,820 --> 00:06:21,020 I used to see him in the pub, in the Salisbury, 100 00:06:21,020 --> 00:06:24,060 where all out-of-work actors used to meet. 101 00:06:24,060 --> 00:06:29,940 You know, we were all out of work, Sean Connery, all the lads, 102 00:06:29,940 --> 00:06:33,300 and Michael was going up for Zulu. 103 00:06:33,300 --> 00:06:34,900 Now the thing is that... 104 00:06:34,900 --> 00:06:37,820 the snobbery of this country 105 00:06:37,820 --> 00:06:41,180 was such that we hadn't quite got over 106 00:06:41,180 --> 00:06:45,140 the Phyllis Calvert, Dulcie Gray syndrome 107 00:06:45,140 --> 00:06:46,700 of where you had to say, 108 00:06:46,700 --> 00:06:48,580 POSH VOICE: "Hello Harry, how are you?" 109 00:06:48,580 --> 00:06:51,940 You couldn't be a leading player unless you spoke like that in those days. 110 00:06:51,940 --> 00:06:54,460 You've seen all those old black-and-white movies. 111 00:06:54,460 --> 00:06:57,940 Take a look at that hill beyond the village. 112 00:06:57,940 --> 00:06:59,780 That jolly-looking building must be a temple. 113 00:06:59,780 --> 00:07:02,620 Americans don't have that prejudice. 114 00:07:02,620 --> 00:07:05,300 They rather like the Cockney voice, 115 00:07:05,300 --> 00:07:10,100 and they don't see it in the class barrier way that the English do. 116 00:07:10,100 --> 00:07:11,980 Whistle up the Korean. Kim! 117 00:07:17,740 --> 00:07:20,540 Now what's cooking? Think I'll go home. 118 00:07:20,540 --> 00:07:23,020 Not without you've plugged your ration of Chinks, Jackie. 119 00:07:23,020 --> 00:07:25,060 It's what you were stood this lovely trip for. 120 00:07:25,060 --> 00:07:31,420 There was no way that a Cockney actor could play a diplomat, 121 00:07:31,420 --> 00:07:36,380 or a university professor in this country 122 00:07:36,380 --> 00:07:43,540 until you're famous, and then, as a film producer said to me many years later, 123 00:07:43,540 --> 00:07:48,060 "If you can get Michael Caine in any part in your movie, 124 00:07:48,060 --> 00:07:51,380 "over the title, you've got box office." 125 00:07:52,460 --> 00:07:56,500 That kind of success was still nearly ten years away. 126 00:07:56,500 --> 00:07:59,620 Life was tough for Michael Caine, right through his 20s. 127 00:07:59,620 --> 00:08:07,260 Then, at age 31, in 1964, Michael "Cockney" Caine got his break. 128 00:08:07,260 --> 00:08:11,300 Stanley Baker, the actor he had met on A Hill in Korea, 129 00:08:11,300 --> 00:08:16,820 arranged for Michael to meet producer Cy Endfield, who had a big project. 130 00:08:16,820 --> 00:08:21,140 The screen test was actually terrible, and I think most screen tests are. 131 00:08:21,140 --> 00:08:24,900 All you do is photograph somebody's fear, not their talent. 132 00:08:24,900 --> 00:08:28,620 And any way, that was done on a Friday, and on a Saturday night 133 00:08:28,620 --> 00:08:33,860 I went to a party, and quite by coincidence Cy Endfield was there, 134 00:08:33,860 --> 00:08:36,540 and I thought, "Well, have I got the part or not?" 135 00:08:36,540 --> 00:08:39,980 And he came in and he just said, "Good evening" and walked by. 136 00:08:39,980 --> 00:08:44,940 And my eyes followed him all round the room, waiting for him to say something. 137 00:08:44,940 --> 00:08:47,460 At least say, "You haven't got the part." 138 00:08:47,460 --> 00:08:50,140 And he finally, he came up to me and he said, 139 00:08:50,140 --> 00:08:55,500 "You did, yesterday, probably the worst screen test I've ever seen in my life." 140 00:08:55,500 --> 00:08:59,860 He said, "Stanley Baker and I may be mad, but we're going to give you the part." 141 00:08:59,860 --> 00:09:02,020 It was Zulu. 142 00:09:02,020 --> 00:09:08,060 Caine looked the part of the English gentleman soldier, but there was still the issue of that accent. 143 00:09:08,060 --> 00:09:13,060 I was nervous when I first did it, because your first film is always the most nerve-wracking. 144 00:09:13,060 --> 00:09:15,220 I could probably do it better now. 145 00:09:15,220 --> 00:09:18,380 I remember Cy Endfield, when he did the first take, 146 00:09:18,380 --> 00:09:21,780 said "Cut", half way through the very first take, and he said, 147 00:09:21,780 --> 00:09:24,940 "Michael, your voice has gone up about three octaves." 148 00:09:24,940 --> 00:09:28,100 My voice was up here with nerves, and they could hardly record it, 149 00:09:28,100 --> 00:09:30,940 and we had to start again and then I brought my voice down. 150 00:09:30,940 --> 00:09:34,060 But what had happened was, everybody came out of the production offices 151 00:09:34,060 --> 00:09:36,860 because they were sure this Cockney couldn't speak like that. 152 00:09:36,860 --> 00:09:40,940 I was sitting on this horse, and I suddenly turned round and there was the entire crew - 153 00:09:40,940 --> 00:09:44,940 office, people's staff, producers, everybody - who had never been on the set before, 154 00:09:44,940 --> 00:09:47,660 just standing there staring at me, and I was sitting on this horse. 155 00:09:47,660 --> 00:09:49,580 This is what threw me for the first take. 156 00:09:49,580 --> 00:09:51,420 Bromhead. 157 00:09:51,420 --> 00:09:53,060 24. 158 00:09:53,060 --> 00:09:55,540 That's my post. Up there. 159 00:09:58,180 --> 00:10:02,540 And nothing has ever thrown me on a take since, and I'm sure never will. 160 00:10:02,540 --> 00:10:07,100 Lamps fall over and I still keep going straight through it, because I think I'm in live television 161 00:10:07,100 --> 00:10:10,140 and no matter what happens, you've got to keep going till the end. 162 00:10:10,140 --> 00:10:12,700 Just like his screen character, 163 00:10:12,700 --> 00:10:16,460 Michael Caine the actor was transformed in Zulu. 164 00:10:16,460 --> 00:10:19,020 This was his big break. 165 00:10:19,020 --> 00:10:22,140 Sir! Are you all right? 166 00:10:24,140 --> 00:10:27,580 Take...command. 167 00:10:30,260 --> 00:10:31,860 Corporal! 168 00:10:33,020 --> 00:10:34,780 Tell the professor... 169 00:10:35,740 --> 00:10:39,220 Take command. Lance Corporal! 170 00:10:39,220 --> 00:10:42,100 Now listen, old boy, you're not dying. 171 00:10:42,100 --> 00:10:44,540 We need you. Damn you, we need you! 172 00:10:46,180 --> 00:10:50,180 Zulu launched Michael Caine, but it didn't make him a millionaire. 173 00:10:50,180 --> 00:10:53,580 He was tall, good looking, and at 31 years of age, 174 00:10:53,580 --> 00:10:55,660 an actor with a big future. 175 00:10:55,660 --> 00:10:59,780 James Bond producer Harry Saltzman saw a smart investment. 176 00:10:59,780 --> 00:11:02,500 I was quite impoverished. I had made Zulu, 177 00:11:02,500 --> 00:11:06,740 but I got paid £4,000 for Zulu, 178 00:11:06,740 --> 00:11:10,020 and I was sort of broke at the end of it. 179 00:11:10,020 --> 00:11:13,620 And so this was this incredible opportunity, and I mean, 180 00:11:13,620 --> 00:11:18,060 the first year of the contract was £100,000 or something like that, 181 00:11:18,060 --> 00:11:20,540 you know, which to me was like £12 million. 182 00:11:20,540 --> 00:11:24,460 The Ipcress File is a highly stylised feature film. 183 00:11:24,460 --> 00:11:26,660 A Cold War spy story. 184 00:11:26,660 --> 00:11:28,140 Look out! 185 00:11:33,100 --> 00:11:40,140 Reluctant and irreverent spy Harry Palmer is caught up in a web of double bluff and brainwashing. 186 00:11:40,140 --> 00:11:44,420 Congratulations Palmer, you've just killed an American agent. 187 00:11:52,980 --> 00:11:55,740 We wanted him to be the antithesis of Bond. 188 00:11:55,740 --> 00:11:58,220 It obviously wasn't any competition for Bond. 189 00:11:58,220 --> 00:12:01,300 It wasn't another great suave spy. 190 00:12:01,300 --> 00:12:05,900 It was more like a real spy, an ordinary guy who you wouldn't look at twice in the street. 191 00:12:05,900 --> 00:12:07,420 You know, that kind of thing. 192 00:12:10,180 --> 00:12:12,580 Oh. Good morning, sir. 193 00:12:14,260 --> 00:12:16,100 Champignons. 194 00:12:16,100 --> 00:12:20,260 You're paying ten pence more for a fancy French label. 195 00:12:20,260 --> 00:12:23,820 If you want button mushrooms, you'll get better value on the next shelf. 196 00:12:23,820 --> 00:12:27,260 It's not just the label. These do have a better flavour. 197 00:12:27,260 --> 00:12:30,940 Of course. You're quite a gourmet, aren't you, Palmer? 198 00:12:30,940 --> 00:12:34,580 'When they saw the first rushes, he said "He's wearing glasses.' 199 00:12:34,580 --> 00:12:38,100 "Is he short-sighted, does he have to wear glasses?" "No, that's part of the character." 200 00:12:38,100 --> 00:12:44,700 He said, "Well, there's never been a leading man since Harold Lloyd who had glasses, and he was a comedian!" 201 00:12:44,700 --> 00:12:47,260 Do you always wear your glasses? 202 00:12:47,260 --> 00:12:48,500 Yes. 203 00:12:49,580 --> 00:12:51,540 Except in bed. 204 00:12:51,540 --> 00:12:57,020 'I saw Sean having a difficulty trying to get away from James Bond and I thought,' 205 00:12:57,020 --> 00:13:01,180 the minute I take these off, it's not Harry Palmer, which proved correct. 206 00:13:02,820 --> 00:13:05,900 And then they saw the rushes where I cook the meal for the woman. 207 00:13:05,900 --> 00:13:09,900 And they went, "Everybody will say it's a fag! I mean, cooking. 208 00:13:09,900 --> 00:13:13,540 "I mean, this is a fag, John Wayne wouldn't cook anything for anybody." 209 00:13:15,580 --> 00:13:18,020 You're very professional. 210 00:13:18,020 --> 00:13:19,980 Yes, so are you. 211 00:13:19,980 --> 00:13:26,180 Harry said to me one day, "I'm putting your name above the title." 212 00:13:26,180 --> 00:13:29,940 I said, "Do you think I was good in it?" He said, "No, it's just that 213 00:13:29,940 --> 00:13:32,740 "if I don't think you're a star, who the hell else is going to? 214 00:13:32,740 --> 00:13:34,700 "I'll put your name up there anyway." 215 00:13:40,180 --> 00:13:42,100 Have you seen everything? 216 00:13:44,300 --> 00:13:46,020 Yes. 217 00:13:46,020 --> 00:13:50,540 I read this review, and I knew that I had a career in movies, 218 00:13:50,540 --> 00:13:54,140 in leading characters, if not the star role. 219 00:13:54,140 --> 00:13:57,540 And I knew I had a future, and I was 31, 220 00:13:57,540 --> 00:14:03,700 and for the first time in my life, I knew I had a future in this business. 221 00:14:03,700 --> 00:14:06,300 You have forgotten your name. 222 00:14:06,300 --> 00:14:11,620 In truth, his name is Michael Caine, and no-one will forget his name. 223 00:14:11,620 --> 00:14:13,900 Michael Caine. 224 00:14:13,900 --> 00:14:16,340 His name was Michael Caine. 225 00:14:16,340 --> 00:14:22,180 Even before the film was released, the buzz in London's film business said a star was born. 226 00:14:22,180 --> 00:14:24,620 Americans became very interested 227 00:14:24,620 --> 00:14:26,900 in this sort of working-class British persona, 228 00:14:26,900 --> 00:14:29,700 and it was coming through coming through in music as well. 229 00:14:29,700 --> 00:14:34,420 It's interesting that Michael Caine came through with his regional accent, his Cockney accent, 230 00:14:34,420 --> 00:14:38,660 at the same time that The Beatles were the sort of iconic British people the world over, 231 00:14:38,660 --> 00:14:43,140 with their Scouse accent. You also had Sean Connery with his unapologetic Scottish accent. 232 00:14:44,660 --> 00:14:49,580 And the timing was perfect to unleash the Cockney accent in Alfie. 233 00:14:49,580 --> 00:14:51,260 Going up in the world, in't I? 234 00:14:51,260 --> 00:14:56,580 In his world of endless sexual encounters, women are disposable objects. 235 00:14:56,580 --> 00:14:58,340 She's in lovely condition. 236 00:14:58,340 --> 00:15:01,580 He is, you know, he's the living image of 237 00:15:01,580 --> 00:15:04,940 that kind of new, confident man of the '60s, 238 00:15:04,940 --> 00:15:08,180 a man who's embracing the permissive society, 239 00:15:08,180 --> 00:15:12,580 is in no way a feminist, you know, not a progressive, not a radical, 240 00:15:12,580 --> 00:15:16,460 but a man who's enjoying the fruits of that consumer culture, 241 00:15:16,460 --> 00:15:20,980 and women are just another thing that he wants to eat and swallow up. 242 00:15:20,980 --> 00:15:26,700 I remember seeing Alfie as a younger woman and feeling extremely angry and offended by it, 243 00:15:26,700 --> 00:15:30,700 finding it very condescending, very unpleasant in the humour, 244 00:15:30,700 --> 00:15:33,740 and the way it regards its female characters, 245 00:15:33,740 --> 00:15:39,100 but having revisited it recently, I saw a real darkness there and a real complexity to his character 246 00:15:39,100 --> 00:15:41,620 that I hadn't really caught the first time round. 247 00:15:44,100 --> 00:15:46,420 You're a little sex pot, in't you? Am I? 248 00:15:46,420 --> 00:15:52,980 His performance in it is interesting, because as well as the obvious laddish charm and sex appeal 249 00:15:52,980 --> 00:15:57,260 that the film was sold on, there's a real vulnerability there, 250 00:15:57,260 --> 00:16:01,460 and I think that's a very interesting element of his presence as a star 251 00:16:01,460 --> 00:16:05,940 and as a sex symbol, is that there's something almost feminised about him. 252 00:16:05,940 --> 00:16:07,860 There's a weakness always. 253 00:16:07,860 --> 00:16:10,940 Even as simple a fact as wearing glasses as a leading man. 254 00:16:10,940 --> 00:16:14,780 You see him cooking in The Ipcress File. You see him crying in Alfie. 255 00:16:14,780 --> 00:16:18,020 These are sort of unusual things for a heroic male lead, 256 00:16:18,020 --> 00:16:22,820 and I think what you see in Alfie is the sort of breakdown of a certain kind of masculinity. 257 00:16:22,820 --> 00:16:24,380 Don't go in there. 258 00:16:36,180 --> 00:16:39,340 He leaves a trail of emotional devastation in a story that shows up 259 00:16:39,340 --> 00:16:42,900 the swinging '60s as being mainly a male creation. 260 00:16:46,620 --> 00:16:50,980 He begins to realise it's a lifestyle that comes at a cost. 261 00:16:55,980 --> 00:17:00,060 And nothing stays the same. Even in the movies. 262 00:17:00,060 --> 00:17:01,660 He's younger than you are. 263 00:17:03,380 --> 00:17:05,300 You got it? 264 00:17:07,380 --> 00:17:12,660 Michael Caine's performance in Alfie won him an Oscar nomination. 265 00:17:12,660 --> 00:17:16,940 It earned him influential friends and a place at the movie world's top table. 266 00:17:16,940 --> 00:17:22,380 One of the most difficult things for a British actor to do is to get 267 00:17:22,380 --> 00:17:28,060 a leading part in a Hollywood movie, opposite a major American star. 268 00:17:28,060 --> 00:17:30,700 And I managed this. 269 00:17:30,700 --> 00:17:35,820 I say I managed this. The reason I got this was because of the generosity 270 00:17:35,820 --> 00:17:38,020 of Shirley MacLaine. 271 00:17:39,100 --> 00:17:42,380 She was doing a film called Gambit, 272 00:17:42,380 --> 00:17:47,340 and they said, "Who would you like in the movie?" 273 00:17:47,340 --> 00:17:52,700 And I'd never met her, I'd never been to America, and suddenly I got a call one day and it said, 274 00:17:52,700 --> 00:17:56,540 "You're in a movie with Shirley MacLaine. We'll send you the script." 275 00:17:56,540 --> 00:17:59,980 I said, "Don't worry, I don't want to read it, I'll just come." 276 00:17:59,980 --> 00:18:03,820 If you will read the magazine as I asked, you will see 277 00:18:03,820 --> 00:18:08,420 that he does not make appointments because he is a recluse. 278 00:18:08,420 --> 00:18:10,340 Well, then why does he want to see us? 279 00:18:10,340 --> 00:18:12,340 A recluse doesn't see anybody, Harry. 280 00:18:12,340 --> 00:18:14,460 A recluse... That's why. 281 00:18:14,460 --> 00:18:16,660 That's why. 282 00:18:16,660 --> 00:18:19,260 Who was this? His wife? Was his wife. She's dead. 283 00:18:22,100 --> 00:18:24,140 You made me look like this dead lady. 284 00:18:24,140 --> 00:18:28,780 Exactly, and when Shahbandar learns about you, we will be invited to meet him. 285 00:18:28,780 --> 00:18:30,460 Hollywood is a very closed shop, 286 00:18:30,460 --> 00:18:33,500 and the fact that Shirley MacLaine wanted Michael Caine 287 00:18:33,500 --> 00:18:35,300 to come and be with her in Gambit 288 00:18:35,300 --> 00:18:39,980 was an enormous opening for him. I mean, she could have picked anybody. 289 00:18:39,980 --> 00:18:42,580 She was a wonderful star at the time. 290 00:18:42,580 --> 00:18:44,460 Don't forget, her brother is Warren Beatty. 291 00:18:44,460 --> 00:18:49,500 She was really in with the in crowd, and the fact that she had this 292 00:18:49,500 --> 00:18:56,660 great knowledge and plucked him - I don't want to say from obscurity, but plucked him from the British milieu 293 00:18:56,660 --> 00:19:00,260 was an enormous feat, I think, an enormous achievement for him. 294 00:19:00,260 --> 00:19:04,740 And also, let's not forget why people are stars. 295 00:19:04,740 --> 00:19:10,100 I mean, Michael Caine is iconic because of the way he looks, the way he sounds, the way he acts, 296 00:19:10,100 --> 00:19:12,460 and Shirley MacLaine can pick a winner. 297 00:19:14,060 --> 00:19:17,180 The '60s were a prolific time for Michael. 298 00:19:17,180 --> 00:19:22,620 There were two more Harry Palmer films - Funeral In Berlin and Billion Dollar Brain - 299 00:19:22,620 --> 00:19:25,740 but one film has unexpectedly become a classic. 300 00:19:25,740 --> 00:19:31,180 It's a film with a line of dialogue that has become forever attached to Michael Caine. 301 00:19:38,300 --> 00:19:41,540 You're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off! 302 00:19:42,380 --> 00:19:46,380 The Italian Job celebrated London's swagger and style. 303 00:19:48,260 --> 00:19:53,460 London at the time was, as everyone knows, it was the Swinging Sixties. 304 00:19:53,460 --> 00:19:56,420 It was the time of Carnaby Street, it was the time of King's Road. 305 00:19:56,420 --> 00:20:01,140 To me, it was just a barrel of laughs. We were going off to Turin. 306 00:20:01,140 --> 00:20:03,260 At 22, I was going to Turin, 307 00:20:03,260 --> 00:20:05,860 I was going to be paid per diems. 308 00:20:05,860 --> 00:20:09,820 And I was going off for weeks to make this film, 309 00:20:09,820 --> 00:20:15,340 and I only had one line, so I didn't have to stay completely sober. 310 00:20:15,340 --> 00:20:19,220 I am going in the front, you are going in the back. 311 00:20:19,220 --> 00:20:21,700 He says he wants to sit up in front with the driver! 312 00:20:21,700 --> 00:20:26,500 I always get sick in the back. Listen, if I go in the back, I get my migraine, I'll be out like a light. 313 00:20:26,500 --> 00:20:30,100 You are not going to be sick, you're not going to have your migraine, 314 00:20:30,100 --> 00:20:32,980 and everybody is going to sit in the back of the motor. 315 00:20:32,980 --> 00:20:38,300 Now I have to go back and look at it through the perspective of a 22-year-old actor. 316 00:20:38,300 --> 00:20:45,100 His eyes are so wide-open and his jaw is so low in astonishment. 317 00:20:45,100 --> 00:20:47,060 It was just watching Michael. 318 00:20:47,060 --> 00:20:50,260 I mean, we were lumped together and we all did our job, 319 00:20:50,260 --> 00:20:54,060 but every day Michael arriving in a Roller on the set, you know, 320 00:20:54,060 --> 00:20:58,740 and don't forget, he also had his extraordinarily beautiful consort as well. 321 00:20:58,740 --> 00:21:01,140 He was with Bianca at the time. 322 00:21:01,140 --> 00:21:03,380 So, you know, and we're all... 323 00:21:03,380 --> 00:21:06,060 But it just seemed exactly right. 324 00:21:06,060 --> 00:21:10,060 Michael looked, sounded, behaved like a movie star. 325 00:21:10,060 --> 00:21:13,900 The plan was that we stay here. The plan's changed. 326 00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:15,540 But why, Charlie? 327 00:21:15,540 --> 00:21:17,620 Why? Because you're a liability. 328 00:21:17,620 --> 00:21:22,220 I don't think there was a buzz about The Italian Job, I think it was just another film, 329 00:21:22,220 --> 00:21:27,460 and the genius of having Remy Julienne do those stunts with the Minis, 330 00:21:27,460 --> 00:21:29,220 that was the masterpiece. 331 00:21:29,220 --> 00:21:32,460 I mean, the film was a lovely film, very charming film, 332 00:21:32,460 --> 00:21:36,540 but without the three minutes, it would have been just another caper film. 333 00:21:38,140 --> 00:21:40,460 Hang on a minute, lads. 334 00:21:40,460 --> 00:21:42,180 I've got a great idea. 335 00:21:42,180 --> 00:21:47,700 He has this really great period in the mid to late '60s and the beginning of the '70s, 336 00:21:47,700 --> 00:21:53,020 where he gets these parts that really speak to those precise historical moments. 337 00:21:53,020 --> 00:21:55,820 You know, he gets to embody swinging London. 338 00:21:55,820 --> 00:21:59,220 He gets to do kind of the colonial hero as well, 339 00:21:59,220 --> 00:22:05,220 a really important figure in the '60s, you know, those uniforms, Sergeant Pepper. 340 00:22:05,220 --> 00:22:10,060 People are thinking about empire in that period, and Britain's place in the world. 341 00:22:10,060 --> 00:22:16,260 And then he gets to do Get Carter, which, if anything, if it's anything, 342 00:22:16,260 --> 00:22:21,460 is a kiss goodbye to the carefree '60s and a sign that Britain is entering 343 00:22:21,460 --> 00:22:24,220 a tougher, a more glacial kind of period. 344 00:22:24,220 --> 00:22:28,100 You know, in that film, he's a sort of spirit of vengeance 345 00:22:28,100 --> 00:22:31,900 who's sent up to the difficult, cold, grimy, violent North. 346 00:22:31,900 --> 00:22:33,940 Goodbye, Eric! 347 00:22:33,940 --> 00:22:39,060 This isn't the same country that Alfie takes place in. 348 00:22:39,060 --> 00:22:40,620 It's an entire world away. 349 00:22:41,660 --> 00:22:43,700 Open that door and go inside. 350 00:22:49,820 --> 00:22:51,260 What are you going to do? 351 00:22:51,260 --> 00:22:53,500 I'm going to sit in the car and whistle Rule Britannia. 352 00:22:53,500 --> 00:22:55,980 You're coming back! How could I stay away? 353 00:23:10,300 --> 00:23:13,820 Get Carter closed a chapter in Caine's career. 354 00:23:13,820 --> 00:23:17,660 The world was changing, and so was the movie business. 355 00:23:25,580 --> 00:23:29,860 In the '70s, television challenged cinemas for audiences. 356 00:23:29,860 --> 00:23:34,620 Hollywood's answer was the epic, a film like The Man Who Would Be King, 357 00:23:34,620 --> 00:23:38,740 a must-see movie event directed by the legendary John Huston. 358 00:23:40,500 --> 00:23:47,460 Caine really hadn't been in any really, really massive epics in that particular decade, 359 00:23:47,460 --> 00:23:53,500 and I think that starring as a one-two punch with Sean Connery and a cast literally of thousands 360 00:23:53,500 --> 00:23:56,260 was an enormous step up for his career, 361 00:23:56,260 --> 00:24:00,740 because this is the kind of film that Hollywood was making to challenge television. 362 00:24:00,740 --> 00:24:05,700 You know, "We couldn't put this on in television, you have to come and see it on the big screen." 363 00:24:05,700 --> 00:24:08,460 Michael Caine was now mixing with Hollywood's royalty 364 00:24:08,460 --> 00:24:13,300 in roles first envisaged for Clark Gable and Humphrey Bogart. 365 00:24:13,300 --> 00:24:17,580 It was a long dream come true for even John Huston, 366 00:24:17,580 --> 00:24:22,500 who had wanted to make the film many years ago. But if he'd done it, 367 00:24:22,500 --> 00:24:26,300 then neither Michael Caine, nor Sean Connery, nor I would have been in it! 368 00:24:26,300 --> 00:24:27,580 So the timing was right. 369 00:24:28,540 --> 00:24:33,060 If they're that far back, there are not all these many people right up here, you see. 370 00:24:33,060 --> 00:24:37,820 First and foremost, to work with Huston, I wanted to work with Huston. 371 00:24:37,820 --> 00:24:40,140 I've always been a great admirer of his. 372 00:24:40,140 --> 00:24:43,740 Also, of course, the part is marvellous, 373 00:24:43,740 --> 00:24:45,620 it's a fabulous part to play, 374 00:24:45,620 --> 00:24:48,340 and it's the type of film I wanted to be in, 375 00:24:48,340 --> 00:24:52,300 and I think it's the type of film we basically should be making, 376 00:24:52,300 --> 00:24:55,420 instead of, um... 377 00:24:55,420 --> 00:24:57,820 kind of competing with Kojak or something, 378 00:24:57,820 --> 00:24:59,860 which people can see for nothing. 379 00:24:59,860 --> 00:25:03,060 You know, you've got to make... This is what I call a movie movie. 380 00:25:08,820 --> 00:25:12,140 WHISTLE BLOWS How was it, Eric? 381 00:25:12,140 --> 00:25:14,340 Not very good. How was it for you? 382 00:25:14,340 --> 00:25:17,140 Not absolutely perfect all the way through. Once more, please! 383 00:25:18,740 --> 00:25:20,820 GUNFIRE AND SHOUTING 384 00:25:22,060 --> 00:25:27,460 WHISTLE BLOWS Well, was the shot no good, then? Ah... 385 00:25:27,460 --> 00:25:30,660 the mules don't go over the side, that's what we're trying to do. 386 00:25:30,660 --> 00:25:32,540 Nothing happened with the mules. 387 00:25:32,540 --> 00:25:34,620 Not a goddamn thing happens with the mules. 388 00:25:34,620 --> 00:25:38,940 It just looks strange that if they get in and then they turn around to shoot, we come in, we leave them, 389 00:25:38,940 --> 00:25:41,900 the camera goes with us and it looks as though we're shooting them. 390 00:25:41,900 --> 00:25:45,620 Well, let's do the same thing as come back up through them again. 391 00:25:45,620 --> 00:25:47,380 Yeah. What's that? 392 00:25:47,380 --> 00:25:49,900 Do you want us to come back up through them again? I think so, 393 00:25:49,900 --> 00:25:52,060 because we left you at this end, you were the last two. 394 00:25:52,060 --> 00:25:53,900 You just wait one jiffy! 395 00:25:55,340 --> 00:25:59,100 Michael said to me, he said, "Saeed, I'm doing a film next year, 396 00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:02,660 "I think there's a part in it that you'd be absolutely right for." 397 00:26:02,660 --> 00:26:06,460 And he did mention my name to the producers, 398 00:26:06,460 --> 00:26:11,180 but we still had to screen-test five other people and so on. 399 00:26:11,180 --> 00:26:14,380 Rifleman Majendra Bahadur Gurung! 400 00:26:14,380 --> 00:26:16,940 Known to my regiment as Billy Fish. 401 00:26:16,940 --> 00:26:20,780 And we had this tall gay dresser 402 00:26:20,780 --> 00:26:26,740 and I... He kept saying, "Billy Fish number one, coming up! 403 00:26:26,740 --> 00:26:29,660 "Billy Fish number two, coming up!" 404 00:26:29,660 --> 00:26:34,260 And I prayed to God, I said, "Please, God, give me the prayer 405 00:26:34,260 --> 00:26:40,180 "so this guy learns to call us by our names and not Billy Fish number one, two and three!" 406 00:26:40,180 --> 00:26:43,180 And God granted me the prayer, and I got the part. 407 00:26:43,180 --> 00:26:48,460 SPEAK IN NATIVE LANGUAGE 408 00:26:48,460 --> 00:26:51,140 He wants to know, are you gods? 409 00:26:51,140 --> 00:26:54,340 Not gods, Englishmen, which is the next best thing. 410 00:26:59,940 --> 00:27:02,300 I ofttimes tell Luther about Englishmens, 411 00:27:02,300 --> 00:27:05,220 how they give names to dogs and take off hats to womans 412 00:27:05,220 --> 00:27:07,500 and march into battle, "Left, right, left, right," 413 00:27:07,500 --> 00:27:09,420 with rifles on their shoulders! 414 00:27:09,420 --> 00:27:11,780 Bringing enlightenment to the darker regions of the earth. 415 00:27:11,780 --> 00:27:14,300 Michael was wonderful. 416 00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:18,580 He said, "Saeed, if you play one of the leading roles in a movie, 417 00:27:18,580 --> 00:27:22,980 "make sure you get to know the whole company by their first name, 418 00:27:22,980 --> 00:27:28,660 "then the company feels like a family, and the work smiles on that screen." 419 00:27:28,660 --> 00:27:30,460 Absolutely true. 420 00:27:30,460 --> 00:27:33,780 Sean Connery realises his dream of being as rich as a king, 421 00:27:33,780 --> 00:27:36,380 but his mortal desire leads to their undoing, 422 00:27:36,380 --> 00:27:38,660 and they're forced to make a run for it. 423 00:27:38,660 --> 00:27:42,340 They've twigged it, Danny, you've had it. 424 00:27:44,380 --> 00:27:47,220 The gig's up! 425 00:27:47,220 --> 00:27:49,220 I... For God's sake! 426 00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:54,980 As the '70s gave way to the '80s, times continued to change 427 00:27:54,980 --> 00:27:58,180 for the movie industry and for Michael Caine. 428 00:27:58,180 --> 00:28:01,900 He even tries on lipstick and lingerie in Dressed To Kill. 429 00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:04,060 It's a crucial time. 430 00:28:04,060 --> 00:28:06,900 Now approaching 50, he enters a twilight zone 431 00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:11,380 where starring roles in the Hollywood tradition become harder to find. 432 00:28:11,380 --> 00:28:15,540 But British cinema offers interesting parts for a more mature man. 433 00:28:15,540 --> 00:28:17,460 Caine says to me an interview once, 434 00:28:17,460 --> 00:28:20,380 "I was handed a script and automatically I looked for 435 00:28:20,380 --> 00:28:23,380 "the lover role and realised that it was quite short," 436 00:28:23,380 --> 00:28:26,620 then the director informed him, "No, we haven't cast you as the lover, 437 00:28:26,620 --> 00:28:29,260 "we've cast you as the father figure, but it's a huge role." 438 00:28:29,260 --> 00:28:32,740 That's when he realised, "OK, I may not get the girl any more in movies, 439 00:28:32,740 --> 00:28:34,980 "it'll be passed on to a younger generation, 440 00:28:34,980 --> 00:28:38,340 "but I'm still a really good actor, and I'll still get good roles." 441 00:28:38,340 --> 00:28:40,900 It says here, "Mrs S White." 442 00:28:40,900 --> 00:28:42,820 Ah, yes, that's S for Susan. 443 00:28:42,820 --> 00:28:44,500 That's just my real name. 444 00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:48,100 But I'm not a Susan anymore. I've changed my name to Rita. 445 00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:51,020 You know, after Rita Mae Brown? No. 446 00:28:51,020 --> 00:28:55,140 Rita Mae Brown, who wrote Rubyfruit Jungle. 447 00:28:55,140 --> 00:28:57,180 No. Haven't you read it? 448 00:28:57,180 --> 00:28:59,980 No. It's a fantastic book, you know. Do you want to lend it? 449 00:28:59,980 --> 00:29:02,420 Er... Yes, yes. 450 00:29:02,420 --> 00:29:04,340 Well, thank you very much. It's OK. 451 00:29:06,580 --> 00:29:08,820 And what do they call you around here? 452 00:29:08,820 --> 00:29:10,260 Sir. 453 00:29:11,900 --> 00:29:15,380 But you may call me Frank. OK...Frank. 454 00:29:16,740 --> 00:29:19,700 I was in Los Angeles. They said, "What are you going to do?" 455 00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:22,300 I said, "I'm going to do something called Educating Rita," 456 00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:24,620 and they said, "Well, who else is in it?" I said, 457 00:29:24,620 --> 00:29:28,220 "A girl called Julie Walters. "They said, "Who the hell is Julie Walters?" 458 00:29:28,220 --> 00:29:30,620 I said, "She's very good, she's in the play, 459 00:29:30,620 --> 00:29:33,980 "she's going to do the movie, and I'm going to do it with her." 460 00:29:33,980 --> 00:29:38,340 He said, "Well, Educating Rita, that must be about Rita. 461 00:29:38,340 --> 00:29:40,980 "What do you play in it?" "I play a guy called Frank." 462 00:29:40,980 --> 00:29:44,780 He said, "Well, you should be doing a picture called Educating Frank 463 00:29:44,780 --> 00:29:46,860 "if you're going to be a star in this." 464 00:29:46,860 --> 00:29:49,300 Background action! Background action. 465 00:29:50,620 --> 00:29:51,700 Action. 466 00:29:52,700 --> 00:29:54,180 Right... 467 00:29:54,180 --> 00:29:59,020 I've got your address in France, so I'll write to you every day. 468 00:29:59,020 --> 00:30:02,260 So have a good holiday and don't drink too much, will you? 469 00:30:02,740 --> 00:30:09,300 Educating Rita reunited Caine with the man who directed Alfie 16 years earlier, Lewis Gilbert. 470 00:30:10,420 --> 00:30:13,460 Originally, I was doing this picture for an American company. 471 00:30:13,460 --> 00:30:15,220 They wanted me to make it in America 472 00:30:15,220 --> 00:30:19,740 and use somebody like Dolly Parton and make the thing American. 473 00:30:19,740 --> 00:30:25,300 And I said, "Well, this is ridiculous, because it's just so English, that's its charm." 474 00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:28,700 You wouldn't think of making Pygmalion or My Fair Lady in Brooklyn. 475 00:30:28,700 --> 00:30:31,460 Did you actually manage to get any work done? 476 00:30:31,460 --> 00:30:34,700 Work? We never stopped, lashing us with it, they were. 477 00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:37,020 Another essay, lash, do it again, smack! 478 00:30:37,020 --> 00:30:38,900 Another lecture, lash! 479 00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:40,900 It was fantastic. 480 00:30:40,900 --> 00:30:43,020 Frank, I could have stayed forever. 481 00:30:43,020 --> 00:30:45,900 'Michael, you know, was a big film star to me.' 482 00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:47,580 Now, of course, I know different. 483 00:30:47,580 --> 00:30:50,500 No, you know, and so, yes, that did help the whole thing. 484 00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:52,540 He's been great, he's been a real help 485 00:30:52,540 --> 00:30:55,780 altogether, you know, off-screen as well been a great help. 486 00:30:58,340 --> 00:30:59,940 LAUGHTER 487 00:31:01,220 --> 00:31:04,660 Er...assonance! 488 00:31:06,660 --> 00:31:10,940 Do you know... Do you know what assonance means? Eh? 489 00:31:10,940 --> 00:31:12,980 It means getting the rhyme wrong! 490 00:31:12,980 --> 00:31:15,020 LAUGHTER 491 00:31:15,020 --> 00:31:18,060 It's terrible, isn't it? 492 00:31:18,060 --> 00:31:21,380 Michael's acting in Educating Rita won a BAFTA. 493 00:31:21,380 --> 00:31:26,380 His first major screen award had taken more than 25 years. 494 00:31:26,380 --> 00:31:29,940 His approach has always been that film acting is more than an art. 495 00:31:29,940 --> 00:31:32,140 It's a craft that can be learnt. 496 00:31:32,140 --> 00:31:34,220 Take this speech, let me sit there, yeah? 497 00:31:38,660 --> 00:31:44,700 I want to see someone who's... a slightly pitiful character. 498 00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:49,860 He's not really in control of everything. 499 00:31:53,020 --> 00:31:56,620 And he's trying to keep his head straight, which wants to go... 500 00:31:56,620 --> 00:32:02,100 But he's got to keep... Because the last thing he's going to do is show this woman that he's drunk. 501 00:32:03,980 --> 00:32:09,140 And it's a rather...pitiful character listening to her. 502 00:32:09,140 --> 00:32:11,500 And drunks don't react fast. 503 00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:15,260 If a normal man sat down in the armchair, he'd sit like this, 504 00:32:15,260 --> 00:32:18,340 "Hello, how are you?" You've got a difference... 505 00:32:18,340 --> 00:32:21,020 But a drunk, it's very small. 506 00:32:22,820 --> 00:32:27,980 There is more poetry in the...telephone directory. 507 00:32:27,980 --> 00:32:33,660 However...this has one advantage over the telephone directory. 508 00:32:33,660 --> 00:32:35,780 It is easier to rip. 509 00:32:37,860 --> 00:32:39,660 Why don't you just go away? 510 00:32:42,780 --> 00:32:45,180 I don't think I can bear it any longer. 511 00:32:46,820 --> 00:32:48,780 Can't bear what, Frank? 512 00:32:50,260 --> 00:32:51,780 You, Rita... 513 00:32:51,780 --> 00:32:53,740 You. 514 00:32:53,740 --> 00:32:59,860 But after 20 years as a big-screen icon, he was, perhaps surprisingly, 515 00:32:59,860 --> 00:33:05,740 tempted back to television for a dramatisation of the story of Jack the Ripper. 516 00:33:05,740 --> 00:33:09,180 Caine plays Inspector Frederick Abberline. 517 00:33:09,180 --> 00:33:13,020 Was he a surgeon, like yourself? Surgeons save lives, Inspector, not destroy them. 518 00:33:13,020 --> 00:33:17,660 He's investigating the horrific murder and mutilation of London prostitutes. 519 00:33:19,740 --> 00:33:21,180 Well, well, well! 520 00:33:21,180 --> 00:33:23,980 It's loosely based on the true story of Jack the Ripper, 521 00:33:23,980 --> 00:33:27,020 but in this version Caine unmasks the serial-killer... 522 00:33:27,020 --> 00:33:29,460 You're going to introduce us! Now! 523 00:33:30,260 --> 00:33:31,940 Fred! You'll hang! 524 00:33:31,940 --> 00:33:35,140 ..only to see his identity protected. 525 00:33:38,020 --> 00:33:41,980 It had a good effect on his career, because people remembered how good he was. 526 00:33:41,980 --> 00:33:46,220 They weren't going to some of his movies around that time, but they were seeing him on TV, 527 00:33:46,220 --> 00:33:50,340 remembering how good he was and then casting him again for later movies. So it was important. 528 00:33:50,340 --> 00:33:54,220 As any actor will tell you, and I'm sure he'll tell you as well, you have to keep working. 529 00:33:54,220 --> 00:33:58,740 I think it's a characteristic of an actor who comes from a working-class background, 530 00:33:58,740 --> 00:34:00,900 who regarded acting as a job, as a trade, 531 00:34:00,900 --> 00:34:06,180 and who, on that basis, maybe never felt secure enough to say, "That part's not good enough for me." 532 00:34:06,180 --> 00:34:09,220 I think he does now, I think now he can pick and choose 533 00:34:09,220 --> 00:34:13,020 and do films that really speak to him and mean something to him, 534 00:34:13,020 --> 00:34:18,060 but in the sort of middle part of his career, stardom isn't automatically conferred, 535 00:34:18,060 --> 00:34:22,580 and even if it seems to be, it doesn't just last, you have to keep working, working, working. 536 00:34:22,580 --> 00:34:25,540 And I think he was always conscious of not dropping out of view 537 00:34:25,540 --> 00:34:28,220 and always conscious of keeping the money coming in. 538 00:34:28,220 --> 00:34:32,780 He's fortunate, not that he doesn't deserve it, but he's been fortunate 539 00:34:32,780 --> 00:34:36,260 to enjoy the experience of going in and out of fashion, 540 00:34:36,260 --> 00:34:43,100 of being lost and reclaimed, of having a late period and an early period and a middle period. 541 00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:45,220 Not a lot of actors get to do that. 542 00:34:48,180 --> 00:34:52,300 As the 20th century draws to a close, the Harry Palmer character 543 00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:59,300 from The Ipcress File is brought out of retirement for Bullet To Beijing and Midnight In St Petersburg. 544 00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:04,060 Michael Caine himself qualifies for a free bus pass just at the time 545 00:35:04,060 --> 00:35:08,500 he spots a unique opportunity in a low-budget British film. 546 00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:14,500 He probably never expected to be offered a romantic lead role at age 65. 547 00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:18,300 When I heard Michael Caine was going to be playing opposite me, 548 00:35:18,300 --> 00:35:21,820 I was a bit apprehensive, you know, because up until that... 549 00:35:21,820 --> 00:35:27,900 He was the biggest name I'd ever worked with, and not only that, it was kind of a physical role, 550 00:35:27,900 --> 00:35:32,700 I had to pounce on him and kiss him, so I was a bit nervous of working with him. 551 00:35:32,700 --> 00:35:35,820 Here he is, Mr Ray Say! 552 00:35:37,860 --> 00:35:43,300 Sting Ray, Ray Gun, my very own Ronnie Ray Gun! 553 00:35:43,300 --> 00:35:45,380 Oh, I'm just into him so! 554 00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:51,500 Caine's character, Ray Say, is a small-time impresario who discovers 555 00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:55,580 his new girlfriend's daughter has a fabulous singing talent. 556 00:35:55,580 --> 00:36:00,300 He throws all his money and what's left of his reputation into making her a star. 557 00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:02,180 The one, the only, 558 00:36:02,180 --> 00:36:04,820 Little Voice, ladies and gentlemen! 559 00:36:04,820 --> 00:36:06,260 Little Voice! 560 00:36:08,660 --> 00:36:11,220 APPLAUSE AND FEEDBACK 561 00:36:15,940 --> 00:36:18,300 Go on! 562 00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:21,620 I thought he might have wanted the whole focus of attention... 563 00:36:21,620 --> 00:36:26,420 um, being such a big star, but he wasn't like that at all. 564 00:36:26,420 --> 00:36:32,100 He was...interested in making the scene work, the same as I was, the same as everybody was. 565 00:36:33,180 --> 00:36:36,180 Oh! Bingo. Let there be light. 566 00:36:36,180 --> 00:36:39,660 But you want to get this lot seen to, you know. It could bring the house down. 567 00:36:39,660 --> 00:36:42,820 I was actually in the play of Little Voice, which was called 568 00:36:42,820 --> 00:36:44,900 The Rise And Fall Of Little Voice, 569 00:36:44,900 --> 00:36:47,500 so Jane and I were the only two folk who moved 570 00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:49,820 from the play into the film, and... 571 00:36:49,820 --> 00:36:56,260 I actually skipped around my living room when I heard it was Michael Caine who was going to be Ray Say. 572 00:36:56,260 --> 00:36:59,340 # Burn, baby, burn 573 00:36:59,340 --> 00:37:00,900 # Burn it! 574 00:37:00,900 --> 00:37:03,580 # To my surprise... # 575 00:37:07,420 --> 00:37:08,660 DOORBELL 576 00:37:08,660 --> 00:37:11,780 To be honest, I liked all my scenes with him, 577 00:37:11,780 --> 00:37:14,740 because they just felt totally organic. 578 00:37:14,740 --> 00:37:18,820 There's a scene at the nightclub when she first meets him 579 00:37:18,820 --> 00:37:22,260 when Mr Boo introduces them, and they're sort of 580 00:37:22,260 --> 00:37:25,700 smooching on the floor to the slow music. 581 00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:29,540 It just kind of fitted, it just... 582 00:37:29,540 --> 00:37:34,780 There was... It was totally into the characters, and it really worked. 583 00:37:34,780 --> 00:37:37,820 She's not what you'd call a performer, I'll grant you that, 584 00:37:37,820 --> 00:37:39,220 but I can take care of that. 585 00:37:39,220 --> 00:37:42,540 She just needs a big band or something to boost her confidence. 586 00:37:42,540 --> 00:37:45,540 I love it when you talk swanky. 587 00:37:45,540 --> 00:37:49,980 When I could see what Michael Caine was doing, I thought, 588 00:37:49,980 --> 00:37:53,500 "This is so unlike anything I've seen him do," 589 00:37:53,500 --> 00:37:55,460 and he was quite brilliant. 590 00:38:00,060 --> 00:38:03,260 Lions and tigers and bears, oh my! 591 00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:06,580 Michael was very... 592 00:38:06,580 --> 00:38:11,340 He's a very...concentrated and self-possessed man 593 00:38:11,340 --> 00:38:16,700 but had absolute enthusiasm for the film and the story 594 00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:18,100 and the other actors. 595 00:38:21,940 --> 00:38:24,740 I had something... ladies and gentlemen. 596 00:38:24,740 --> 00:38:27,500 I had something really special. 597 00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:32,540 When he sings that song at the end of Little Voice, I thought it was absolutely heartbreaking. 598 00:38:32,540 --> 00:38:34,580 At first, he was quite reluctant. 599 00:38:34,580 --> 00:38:38,260 When they told him he's got to sing a song, I don't think he was that keen. 600 00:38:38,260 --> 00:38:40,860 He kept saying, "No, no, no, I'm not a singer." 601 00:38:40,860 --> 00:38:45,940 They said, "No, but we want you to put your own spin on it, Ray Say's spin on it." 602 00:38:45,940 --> 00:38:50,220 # It breaks your heart in two... # 603 00:38:50,220 --> 00:38:53,980 He wasn't very confident about it, but then, when it came to doing it, 604 00:38:53,980 --> 00:38:58,860 he just did it, and it blew everybody away, it was heartbreaking. 605 00:38:58,860 --> 00:39:01,580 # It's over! # 606 00:39:07,740 --> 00:39:12,660 He hadn't been allowed or invited, or the opportunity hadn't come along 607 00:39:12,660 --> 00:39:15,100 for him to play that pain previously, 608 00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:18,380 and I think... 609 00:39:19,540 --> 00:39:24,260 ..that was radical for him and wonderful for us as an audience. 610 00:39:24,260 --> 00:39:29,020 The adorable Mr Ray Say, ladies and gentlemen, with a little song 611 00:39:29,020 --> 00:39:32,780 about his showbusiness career, called It's Over. 612 00:39:34,940 --> 00:39:38,260 Little Voice won Michael Caine a Golden Globe. 613 00:39:38,260 --> 00:39:40,420 Many thought he should have had an Oscar. 614 00:39:40,420 --> 00:39:43,980 Surprisingly, in such a long career, he has won just two - 615 00:39:43,980 --> 00:39:46,500 best supporting actor in The Cider House Rules 616 00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:49,940 and best supporting actor for the comedy Hannah And Her Sisters. 617 00:39:49,940 --> 00:39:52,380 It was interesting, because it was a Woody Allen movie, 618 00:39:52,380 --> 00:39:55,620 and you don't always associate Michael Caine with Woody Allen, 619 00:39:55,620 --> 00:39:59,060 who always makes these New York stories with New Yorkers, generally. 620 00:39:59,060 --> 00:40:01,700 Caine comes along, and he was terrifically cast. 621 00:40:01,700 --> 00:40:06,020 He played Mia Farrow's husband, but he was having an affair with Mia Farrow's sister, 622 00:40:06,020 --> 00:40:07,860 played by Barbara Hershey. 623 00:40:07,860 --> 00:40:11,060 JAZZ PLAYS 624 00:40:12,220 --> 00:40:15,260 You can take pictures? Sure, when we get to the country. 625 00:40:15,260 --> 00:40:18,300 OK. Yeah, OK! 626 00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:23,980 He's holding his own against Woody Allen's normal ensemble troupe. 627 00:40:23,980 --> 00:40:27,740 He has the people he's used to working with, actors who he knows a lot about, 628 00:40:27,740 --> 00:40:30,860 and there was Caine, who was very much the outsider when he started. 629 00:40:30,860 --> 00:40:34,900 But he dominates the movie. Even when he's not in the scenes, you're aware of Michael Caine. 630 00:40:34,900 --> 00:40:38,300 What are you not telling me? What kind of interrogation...? 631 00:40:38,300 --> 00:40:43,140 Supposing I said yes, I am disenchanted, I am in love with someone else. Are you? 632 00:40:43,140 --> 00:40:44,580 No! 633 00:40:44,580 --> 00:40:49,500 And Caine understood straightaway, he knew this man, he knew he was hurting the Mia Farrow character, 634 00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:53,700 but he was absolutely drawn to the Barbara Hershey character, and couldn't help it. 635 00:40:53,700 --> 00:40:57,220 He was a man in torment, so had all these mixed emotions in the movie, 636 00:40:57,220 --> 00:41:02,340 and because of that, I think it was well deserved that Caine won the Oscar for that movie. 637 00:41:02,340 --> 00:41:07,220 Sadly, he wasn't there to collect it, because he was in the Bahamas shooting Jaws: The Revenge, 638 00:41:07,220 --> 00:41:09,700 for his ten days for his one million pay cheque. 639 00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:13,780 When an actor isn't awarded an Oscar for what he should have been awarded for, 640 00:41:13,780 --> 00:41:17,300 they'll give it to him for something else, and this is the history. 641 00:41:17,300 --> 00:41:21,700 John Wayne got it for this when he should have got it for this, it happens over and over again. 642 00:41:21,700 --> 00:41:24,180 And I think that Michael Caine really 643 00:41:24,180 --> 00:41:27,180 was awarded those two Oscars for his body of work, 644 00:41:27,180 --> 00:41:32,140 for his iconic appearances in films that they couldn't have given him an Oscar for. 645 00:41:32,140 --> 00:41:35,380 "A dog, which had lain concealed till now, 646 00:41:35,380 --> 00:41:38,140 "ran backwards and forwards on the parapet 647 00:41:38,140 --> 00:41:42,460 "with a dismal howl, and collecting himself for a spring, 648 00:41:42,460 --> 00:41:45,900 "jumped on the dead man's shoulders. 649 00:41:45,900 --> 00:41:50,620 "Missing his aim, he fell into a ditch, turning completely over as he went 650 00:41:50,620 --> 00:41:53,220 "and, striking his head against a stone, 651 00:41:53,220 --> 00:41:55,980 "dashed out his brains." 652 00:41:58,100 --> 00:41:59,900 That is the end of the chapter. 653 00:42:03,340 --> 00:42:08,300 Good night, you princes of Maine, you kings of New England. 654 00:42:10,940 --> 00:42:14,780 Oscar is very political, so you can watch The Cider House Rules if you want to, 655 00:42:14,780 --> 00:42:16,940 and you can watch Hannah And Her Sisters, 656 00:42:16,940 --> 00:42:21,420 but really we all know the Michael Caine movies we want to watch and should watch, 657 00:42:21,420 --> 00:42:22,860 and it's not those two. 658 00:42:22,860 --> 00:42:29,980 He doesn't tend to do that kind of hair-tearing, weighty acting that the Academy, for instance, likes best, 659 00:42:29,980 --> 00:42:35,420 so maybe that's why it wasn't the best-actor roles that he got nominated for, 660 00:42:35,420 --> 00:42:38,740 and I know that he's been a little bit cross about that. 661 00:42:38,740 --> 00:42:42,340 He has been nominated for an Oscar in every decade from the '60s to now, 662 00:42:42,340 --> 00:42:45,740 and he's the only person apart from Jack Nicholson who that applies to, 663 00:42:45,740 --> 00:42:49,180 which is pretty astonishing. Never mind if it's supporting, who cares? 664 00:42:52,380 --> 00:42:54,780 But who cares indeed? 665 00:42:54,780 --> 00:42:59,260 He bagged the biggest award of his career, becoming Sir Michael Caine, at a Millennium ceremony. 666 00:43:01,860 --> 00:43:08,220 Rejuvenated, he launched himself into a new century with quirky roles in big Hollywood films, 667 00:43:08,220 --> 00:43:11,780 among them Miss Congeniality, Austin Powers and Batman. 668 00:43:11,780 --> 00:43:16,060 The charm of his role in Batman is that he's kind of going, "What on earth is going on?" 669 00:43:16,060 --> 00:43:21,780 And in Inception as well, he's the sort of person who is outside of the magic, commenting on it, 670 00:43:21,780 --> 00:43:24,860 which is a great thing for an older actor to embody. 671 00:43:24,860 --> 00:43:29,580 But also, these kind of slightly more aggressive, powerful older men, 672 00:43:29,580 --> 00:43:35,140 like the one that he played in Harry Brown, where he's bringing a sort of heroism to it - 673 00:43:35,140 --> 00:43:37,860 well, a debatable heroism in that case. 674 00:43:37,860 --> 00:43:42,700 But maybe an older man who is not passive, who is not going gently into the good night, 675 00:43:42,700 --> 00:43:45,260 but who is retaining a bit of fire and spark. 676 00:43:45,260 --> 00:43:49,860 People talk a lot about women's roles drying up as they get older, 677 00:43:49,860 --> 00:43:55,060 and the sexuality leaving and only getting to play mothers and people with Alzheimer's, 678 00:43:55,060 --> 00:43:57,860 and the thing is that that applies to men as well. 679 00:43:57,860 --> 00:44:02,300 It's difficult to find really juicy roles as an ageing actor. 680 00:44:02,300 --> 00:44:08,340 What's great about Michael Caine is that he has such across-the-board affection and respect 681 00:44:08,340 --> 00:44:14,460 that he is in a position to blaze a trail for the older actor, not going into obvious directions. 682 00:44:14,460 --> 00:44:17,580 So there's a real range in the work that he's been doing lately. 683 00:44:17,580 --> 00:44:20,980 I think that's very interesting and inspiring for other actors as well, 684 00:44:20,980 --> 00:44:21,500 that it doesn't have to stop once you stop getting the girl. 685 00:44:22,140 --> 00:44:23,860 that it doesn't have to stop once you stop getting the girl. 686 00:44:26,860 --> 00:44:32,300 But if anyone thought Michael Caine was coasting into retirement with comfortable cameo roles, 687 00:44:32,300 --> 00:44:36,860 two low-budget British movies cast him in a new and different light. 688 00:44:36,860 --> 00:44:41,540 He is being rediscovered by a young generation of film-makers. 689 00:44:41,540 --> 00:44:44,700 In Harry Brown, it's as if Caine has come full circle, 690 00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:46,900 back to his home territory in east London 691 00:44:46,900 --> 00:44:49,460 as an old man who has seen military service. 692 00:44:49,460 --> 00:44:51,260 I was very excited about the fact 693 00:44:51,260 --> 00:44:53,620 that the person I thought would be best for the part 694 00:44:53,620 --> 00:44:56,660 was interested in playing the part, and I was going to meet 695 00:44:56,660 --> 00:44:59,860 one of my heroes, if you like. And he really is. 696 00:44:59,860 --> 00:45:03,540 I mean, ever since I was a kid, I've grown up watching his films 697 00:45:03,540 --> 00:45:07,900 that we all love, you know, Zulu, Alfie, The Italian Job and so on. 698 00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:14,540 He is, in my opinion, one of the world's great actors 699 00:45:14,540 --> 00:45:18,420 and someone who's worked with some of the world's greatest directors, 700 00:45:18,420 --> 00:45:21,860 as he kept reminding me as we were making the film! All the time! 701 00:45:21,860 --> 00:45:25,900 So we had some interesting discussions. 702 00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:29,620 You know, at the end of the day, as he said to me when I first met him, 703 00:45:29,620 --> 00:45:33,260 "I'll have a lot of ideas, but you'll pick the good ones out, 704 00:45:33,260 --> 00:45:37,060 "and at the end of the day I'll do exactly what you say because you're the director, the boss." 705 00:45:40,740 --> 00:45:43,580 I'm scared, Harry. 706 00:45:43,580 --> 00:45:45,260 I'm... I'm scared all the time. 707 00:45:50,980 --> 00:45:52,620 God in heaven. 708 00:45:52,620 --> 00:45:54,740 What are you doing with that? 709 00:45:56,580 --> 00:45:58,700 You should talk to the police. 710 00:45:58,700 --> 00:46:01,300 I'll tell you what, we'll go together. 711 00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:07,300 I've already been to the police. 712 00:46:10,620 --> 00:46:14,340 It's about an old man who lives on a council estate in London, 713 00:46:14,340 --> 00:46:17,540 or somewhere in England, but it's kind of London, 714 00:46:17,540 --> 00:46:22,540 in the Elephant and Castle, which is actually very close to where he actually grew up as a boy. 715 00:46:22,540 --> 00:46:27,020 And, you know, like a lot of pensioners, they serve their country 716 00:46:27,020 --> 00:46:32,140 at one point or another during the war, and he has...very few friends. 717 00:46:32,140 --> 00:46:36,180 And one of his friends get killed, unfortunately, gets murdered. 718 00:46:36,180 --> 00:46:38,260 HE SOBS 719 00:46:38,260 --> 00:46:41,860 The murder of his best friend is the last straw for Harry Brown. 720 00:46:41,860 --> 00:46:46,140 He looks around his world and sees a place and people he doesn't recognise. 721 00:46:46,140 --> 00:46:50,220 It's not the world he fought for. The police are ineffective. 722 00:46:50,220 --> 00:46:52,740 So old Harry, a man with nothing to lose, 723 00:46:52,740 --> 00:46:57,060 decides to take matters into his own hands. 724 00:46:57,060 --> 00:47:01,820 What was brilliant, for me, about him was that he was so very interested 725 00:47:01,820 --> 00:47:05,300 in becoming the part and not being Michael Caine, 726 00:47:05,300 --> 00:47:08,780 and that's very refreshing for a star, you know, 727 00:47:08,780 --> 00:47:15,020 to actually want to become something else and also to be able to become someone else. 728 00:47:15,020 --> 00:47:19,380 It's not as easy as it sounds, you know, to define yourself 729 00:47:19,380 --> 00:47:26,260 as a pensioner, as someone who has nothing, as opposed to the man we all know him to be, 730 00:47:26,260 --> 00:47:29,380 which is a very wealthy and fabulous person, a star, you know. 731 00:47:30,860 --> 00:47:34,540 It's a film about one man's beliefs and struggle 732 00:47:34,540 --> 00:47:39,420 and what he's prepared to do about it. In truth, there's a lot of examples in the newspapers every day, 733 00:47:39,420 --> 00:47:44,580 where normal people feel that they stand up and want to do something about what's going on around them, 734 00:47:44,580 --> 00:47:48,980 whether it's the kids on their street that throw stones at their windows 735 00:47:48,980 --> 00:47:51,340 or jump on their cars, whatever it happens to be. 736 00:47:51,340 --> 00:47:55,420 More and more of us are willing to stand up and go, "No, actually, we don't think that's right." 737 00:48:00,580 --> 00:48:04,740 He goes to, um... to see a couple of guys, 738 00:48:04,740 --> 00:48:06,980 and...he tries to get hold of a gun, 739 00:48:06,980 --> 00:48:09,980 and he gets embroiled in this whole situation. 740 00:48:09,980 --> 00:48:15,140 I was very interested in really building up the tension and helping us to understand what it would feel 741 00:48:15,140 --> 00:48:18,780 if a normal person ended up in a place like this, with those kind of people. 742 00:48:18,780 --> 00:48:20,260 KNOCK ON DOOR 743 00:48:24,860 --> 00:48:28,540 If you look at the choices he has made in the lower-budget films 744 00:48:28,540 --> 00:48:31,780 he's been involved with, not Batman and stuff like that, 745 00:48:31,780 --> 00:48:35,900 like Little Voice, Educating Rita, lower-budget films, if you like, 746 00:48:35,900 --> 00:48:37,660 he makes good choices. 747 00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:42,980 You have failed to maintain your weapon, son. 748 00:48:45,180 --> 00:48:48,900 I think what Michael Caine has right now is a glorious late period. 749 00:48:48,900 --> 00:48:53,380 I think that actually this is one of the most enjoyable periods 750 00:48:53,380 --> 00:48:56,980 in the life of any actor who's lucky enough to have one. 751 00:48:56,980 --> 00:49:03,060 You know, we now see Michael Caine in a slightly kind of ruinous condition. 752 00:49:03,060 --> 00:49:07,220 You know, he's like a national monument that's slightly encrusted with moss. 753 00:49:07,220 --> 00:49:11,180 We all remember him being young and beautiful in the '60s, 754 00:49:11,180 --> 00:49:14,220 with those piercing, brilliant blue eyes, 755 00:49:14,220 --> 00:49:18,340 and now he's like this... you know, this great beast, 756 00:49:18,340 --> 00:49:20,700 slightly kind of tumbledown, 757 00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:23,420 but incredibly impressive still. 758 00:49:23,420 --> 00:49:26,220 And he has a frightening kind of power. 759 00:49:26,220 --> 00:49:28,620 This is temporary. 760 00:49:28,620 --> 00:49:34,540 For a completely different take on growing old, another British film, Is There Anybody There? 761 00:49:34,540 --> 00:49:37,780 This is only...temporary. 762 00:49:37,780 --> 00:49:39,700 OK. 763 00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:42,540 The story goes that Shakira, his wife, read it first, 764 00:49:42,540 --> 00:49:45,580 handed him the script and said, "You're doing this one." 765 00:49:45,580 --> 00:49:47,580 And he read it and cried and said yes. 766 00:49:47,580 --> 00:49:53,060 I met him two weeks later, and that was it, it was a very quickly done...done deal. 767 00:49:53,060 --> 00:49:58,300 "On Christmas Day, Arnold Doughty, 90, went blue and died. 768 00:49:58,300 --> 00:50:02,340 "So far, there has been no communication from him." 769 00:50:02,340 --> 00:50:05,220 LAUGHTER 770 00:50:05,220 --> 00:50:11,100 Well, I played Edward, who was a young boy who was quite morbid 771 00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:16,220 and interested in ghosts and the afterlife and... 772 00:50:16,220 --> 00:50:20,660 It was basically a story about this young boy meeting Clarence, 773 00:50:20,660 --> 00:50:24,820 who was an old, retired magician played by Michael Caine. 774 00:50:24,820 --> 00:50:30,820 And it's a relationship of... the boy teaching the...the, er... 775 00:50:30,820 --> 00:50:36,060 the old man, Clarence, to sort of let go and... 776 00:50:37,540 --> 00:50:40,980 ..realise that it's almost the end of his life, 777 00:50:40,980 --> 00:50:44,700 and almost Clarence teaching the boy about life 778 00:50:44,700 --> 00:50:47,500 and how to enjoy it, how to make friends. 779 00:50:49,740 --> 00:50:51,420 HORN BLARES 780 00:50:53,620 --> 00:50:57,060 What do you think you're playing at?! 781 00:50:57,060 --> 00:50:58,220 I could have killed you! 782 00:50:59,180 --> 00:51:01,740 Oi! Come here! 783 00:51:02,620 --> 00:51:04,900 It was an amazing time, really. 784 00:51:04,900 --> 00:51:10,020 I hadn't really done much before that, so I wasn't very...experienced 785 00:51:10,020 --> 00:51:14,540 and I didn't really know much about the whole filming process. 786 00:51:14,540 --> 00:51:17,780 And I think working with Michael Caine was, one, a privilege 787 00:51:17,780 --> 00:51:21,580 and, two, a very educational time, I learnt a lot from him. 788 00:51:21,580 --> 00:51:25,060 I used to have a room with Paddington Bear wallpaper. 789 00:51:25,060 --> 00:51:28,900 Yeah? Well, I used to have a beautiful wife and all my own teeth! 790 00:51:28,900 --> 00:51:32,700 Your life changes, buster. And not always for the better. 791 00:51:33,980 --> 00:51:38,820 You accumulate regrets, and they stick to you like old bruises. 792 00:51:38,820 --> 00:51:42,940 It's a black comedy in the truest sense, you know, which is to say that 793 00:51:42,940 --> 00:51:48,780 you're laughing at things which are rather uncomfortable, to do with notions of ageing and dying. 794 00:51:48,780 --> 00:51:52,820 And that's not really the stuff 795 00:51:52,820 --> 00:51:57,740 that you expect to see a film icon involved in, 796 00:51:57,740 --> 00:52:00,220 especially one who was as handsome as he was. 797 00:52:06,900 --> 00:52:11,460 You don't expect to see Alfie in a retirement home, and in a way 798 00:52:11,460 --> 00:52:15,900 that was part of what was amazing about what Michael loaned to the film, actually, 799 00:52:15,900 --> 00:52:17,980 is his iconography. 800 00:52:18,980 --> 00:52:20,540 Hello, Bridget. 801 00:52:29,020 --> 00:52:31,660 He's a supreme craftsman, 802 00:52:31,660 --> 00:52:37,580 and he doesn't wax lyrical about the process or about it as an art. 803 00:52:37,580 --> 00:52:40,340 For him, he's like a great craftsman. 804 00:52:40,340 --> 00:52:43,140 BLOWS RASPBERRY 805 00:52:46,700 --> 00:52:50,420 GIRL SCREAMS Aaargh! 806 00:52:50,420 --> 00:52:53,340 He made you feel very comfortable, 807 00:52:53,340 --> 00:52:58,940 and the fact that he sort of almost trusted you and, you know, believed in you was quite nice, 808 00:52:58,940 --> 00:53:02,540 the fact that he didn't feel he needed to really teach me. 809 00:53:02,540 --> 00:53:05,340 I picked up things on my own, and... 810 00:53:05,340 --> 00:53:07,700 I guess he had quite a lot of trust, 811 00:53:07,700 --> 00:53:11,780 and it was nice to work like that, because it made you comfortable 812 00:53:11,780 --> 00:53:15,780 and you could sort of believe in your role and things more. 813 00:53:15,780 --> 00:53:18,260 Let me tell you a secret. 814 00:53:18,260 --> 00:53:20,860 Being a person is a pain in the arse. 815 00:53:20,860 --> 00:53:22,620 No, it's not! 816 00:53:22,620 --> 00:53:23,980 Yes, it is! 817 00:53:30,180 --> 00:53:32,140 Clarence? What? 818 00:53:33,780 --> 00:53:36,940 If you die, will you come back and see me? 819 00:53:36,940 --> 00:53:38,540 Jesus wept! 820 00:53:38,540 --> 00:53:42,140 He's an extremely pleasant man on set, 821 00:53:42,140 --> 00:53:46,820 but he was...nervous and prickly in a way that suggested 822 00:53:46,820 --> 00:53:51,500 he was building up to something emotional, shall we say. 823 00:53:51,500 --> 00:53:54,700 And, um...we rehearsed it, 824 00:53:54,700 --> 00:53:59,020 but you can't really rehearse a scene like that, and he's a smart enough actor 825 00:53:59,020 --> 00:54:03,460 to know that you don't spend your emotion in a rehearsal, you need to save it. 826 00:54:03,460 --> 00:54:06,860 It was a freezing cold day and, you know, 827 00:54:06,860 --> 00:54:10,540 there was going to be a limit to the amount of times he could do it. 828 00:54:10,540 --> 00:54:13,460 And he did it in two takes, and it was early in our relationship, 829 00:54:13,460 --> 00:54:17,220 and I knew on the second take he had absolutely nailed it, I thought it was wonderful. 830 00:54:17,220 --> 00:54:20,540 You don't come back, son! 831 00:54:20,540 --> 00:54:23,740 Once they've gone, you can't talk to them! 832 00:54:25,420 --> 00:54:30,340 If I could just say to her, "I'm sorry," if I could tell her I was bloody sorry, 833 00:54:30,340 --> 00:54:32,860 what a difference that would make. 834 00:54:32,860 --> 00:54:35,740 I pushed it and said, "Come on, let's go for one more," 835 00:54:35,740 --> 00:54:38,820 and he valiantly looked at me and nodded and went, "OK," 836 00:54:38,820 --> 00:54:41,300 and gave it his best shot, but it wasn't as good. 837 00:54:41,300 --> 00:54:44,940 He knew in that second take that he had nailed it emotionally, and that 838 00:54:44,940 --> 00:54:47,020 the first take was, for once, for him, 839 00:54:47,020 --> 00:54:51,020 like getting a foothold in the scene emotionally, and the second take, 840 00:54:51,020 --> 00:54:54,540 he cracked it wide open, and we used all of that take in the film. 841 00:54:54,540 --> 00:54:56,660 She divorced me. Who? 842 00:54:56,660 --> 00:54:58,540 Annie. 843 00:54:58,540 --> 00:55:03,140 I-I wouldn't settle down, I couldn't keep it in me trousers, know what I mean? I was... 844 00:55:03,140 --> 00:55:05,180 I was a good-looking fella. 845 00:55:07,180 --> 00:55:10,820 Then one day, I-I came back home and she'd... 846 00:55:15,580 --> 00:55:19,180 Quite surprising to see an actor like Michael, 847 00:55:19,180 --> 00:55:24,180 who is also famous for his minimalism and for his containment as an actor, 848 00:55:24,180 --> 00:55:28,460 being that raw and being that vulnerable 849 00:55:28,460 --> 00:55:32,620 and being able to do it in a way that still doesn't look like acting. 850 00:55:32,620 --> 00:55:37,820 He's... He's always Michael Caine somewhere in the middle of the role, 851 00:55:37,820 --> 00:55:40,180 which is one of the strengths of him as a film star. 852 00:55:40,180 --> 00:55:43,580 You could say that it's the strength of most film stars, there's always 853 00:55:43,580 --> 00:55:46,660 one bit of themselves, they never fully lose themself in the role. 854 00:55:48,220 --> 00:55:49,820 Ta-ta for now. 855 00:55:49,820 --> 00:55:52,340 It could almost have been Caine's career epitaph 856 00:55:52,340 --> 00:55:55,180 and made for uncomfortable viewing at the first screening. 857 00:55:57,780 --> 00:56:03,580 I think the thing that hit him very hard was how upset his wife, Shakira, was, 858 00:56:03,580 --> 00:56:07,340 because she was sitting next to him and it was a small screening room. 859 00:56:07,340 --> 00:56:11,660 It was seven months since he had finished shooting the film, 860 00:56:11,660 --> 00:56:17,500 and you sort of forget, you move on, and I think he was not quite ready for himself, 861 00:56:17,500 --> 00:56:21,220 for what he had given us in the film emotionally. 862 00:56:21,220 --> 00:56:25,420 And I think it really upset him that... 863 00:56:26,900 --> 00:56:30,780 ..that his wife was upset because she saw him dying in the film 864 00:56:30,780 --> 00:56:34,420 and that she had never seen him die in a film in that way. 865 00:56:34,420 --> 00:56:37,700 And he said, "Oh, I've been in loads of films where I've been shot." 866 00:56:37,700 --> 00:56:41,420 She said, "No, this is different, here you age and die visibly in front of me," 867 00:56:41,420 --> 00:56:43,380 and I think that was quite shocking to him. 868 00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:58,180 He's this immovable object at the heart of cinema. 869 00:56:58,180 --> 00:57:01,420 He's much more important, in a way, than any of the films that he made. 870 00:57:01,420 --> 00:57:04,460 What the hell do you think you're playing at?! The amazing thing about 871 00:57:04,460 --> 00:57:09,380 Michael Caine is that he can reach out to a large audience. 872 00:57:09,380 --> 00:57:11,180 BLOWS RASPBERRY 873 00:57:11,180 --> 00:57:12,340 GIRL SCREAMS 874 00:57:12,340 --> 00:57:13,500 Aaaargh! 875 00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:18,620 Any director that works with him will be very lucky, really, and I'd love to work with him again, 876 00:57:18,620 --> 00:57:21,940 and I've told him that, and he's said he's happy to do that, 877 00:57:21,940 --> 00:57:24,140 um...as long as I can get some dosh for him. 878 00:57:25,540 --> 00:57:26,620 Blimey! 879 00:57:26,620 --> 00:57:28,820 No, he's not really money-led. 880 00:57:31,700 --> 00:57:34,140 He's been on our screens for five decades. 881 00:57:34,140 --> 00:57:37,660 He's been Oscar-nominated for each of those decades. 882 00:57:37,660 --> 00:57:40,380 He is an iconic figure in the movies. 883 00:57:40,380 --> 00:57:44,900 First and foremost, he's a terrific actor. That's what makes Michael Caine a star. 884 00:57:44,900 --> 00:57:49,700 I think, when Michael did Little Voice, he again gave us something new, 885 00:57:49,700 --> 00:57:52,540 and so his career took off again. 886 00:57:52,540 --> 00:57:54,340 I'm just into him so! 887 00:57:55,060 --> 00:57:57,500 And it's still going. 888 00:57:57,500 --> 00:57:59,620 Good night, Bertha. 889 00:57:59,620 --> 00:58:00,700 Good night, George. 890 00:58:00,700 --> 00:58:02,340 Well, chin-chin! 891 00:58:02,340 --> 00:58:04,980 Do carry on with your mud pie. 892 00:58:25,820 --> 00:58:28,300 Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd 893 00:58:28,300 --> 00:58:30,940 E-mail subtiting@bbc.co.uk