1 00:00:02,058 --> 00:00:05,473 We've all seen the pictures and read the stories in the history books 2 00:00:05,498 --> 00:00:08,353 about the Kings and Queens with their power and privilege 3 00:00:08,378 --> 00:00:10,073 and silks and furs. 4 00:00:11,818 --> 00:00:16,123 But in this series, I want to discover the other side of history. 5 00:00:16,148 --> 00:00:18,043 I'm already quite nervous. 6 00:00:18,068 --> 00:00:21,512 The side we don't often hear about - 7 00:00:21,537 --> 00:00:24,473 how ordinary British people lived their lives. 8 00:00:25,888 --> 00:00:27,553 From the Tudors... 9 00:00:27,578 --> 00:00:30,553 You'll see why it did attract my attention. 10 00:00:30,578 --> 00:00:31,983 Disgusting! 11 00:00:32,008 --> 00:00:33,553 ...to the Victorians... 12 00:00:33,578 --> 00:00:36,863 Throw a stone in Victorian London, you will hit a drunken cab man. 13 00:00:36,888 --> 00:00:41,063 There's that many of them. We are not amused. 14 00:00:41,088 --> 00:00:42,572 From the Georgians... 15 00:00:42,597 --> 00:00:44,223 You take a saw. Oh, my God. 16 00:00:44,248 --> 00:00:46,783 It's horrible, just seeing you do that. 17 00:00:48,568 --> 00:00:51,983 ...to the people who really fought the Second World War. 18 00:00:52,008 --> 00:00:57,103 James could hear the ping of bullets and the clatter of shrapnel. 19 00:00:57,128 --> 00:01:02,333 One thing's for sure, these people knew the meaning of the word tough. 20 00:01:03,837 --> 00:01:06,622 I'll be finding the truth about their daily lives. 21 00:01:06,647 --> 00:01:08,492 What they ate... 22 00:01:08,517 --> 00:01:11,773 How long would that have lasted? Up to three years. 23 00:01:11,798 --> 00:01:14,572 Ugh! ..how they made a living... 24 00:01:14,597 --> 00:01:17,893 There's even value in a rat, when it's dead. 25 00:01:17,918 --> 00:01:20,333 ...and those vital necessities of life. 26 00:01:20,358 --> 00:01:23,173 What did you do if you wanted a pee? Go in the bucket. 27 00:01:23,198 --> 00:01:28,043 The bucket? This is British history, from the bottom up. 28 00:01:28,068 --> 00:01:30,483 You've got to admit, I am terrifying. 29 00:01:38,508 --> 00:01:42,053 The Nazis were the most terrifying enemies 30 00:01:42,078 --> 00:01:44,762 in one of the nastiest wars in history. 31 00:01:47,258 --> 00:01:51,842 But taking them on wasn't just down to men like him. 32 00:01:51,867 --> 00:01:55,842 Britain fought the Second World War with a bunch of ordinary 33 00:01:55,867 --> 00:02:00,113 office workers, grocers, bakers, and housewives. 34 00:02:00,138 --> 00:02:04,053 We know the result, but what was it really like 35 00:02:04,078 --> 00:02:07,803 for ordinary Britons caught up in it all? 36 00:02:07,828 --> 00:02:11,393 Most of the people who still remember the Second World War 37 00:02:11,418 --> 00:02:13,393 were only children at the time. 38 00:02:13,418 --> 00:02:17,153 But even though they were just kids, a lot of them 39 00:02:17,178 --> 00:02:20,993 still have vivid memories of having to seek shelter 40 00:02:21,018 --> 00:02:24,003 because their country was under brutal attack. 41 00:02:24,028 --> 00:02:26,493 AIR-RAID SIREN 42 00:02:26,518 --> 00:02:31,793 In 1940, eight-year-old Babs Clark and her family found themselves 43 00:02:31,818 --> 00:02:35,563 in the thick of it all, in London's East End. 44 00:02:35,588 --> 00:02:38,283 So, what did Babe's mum do? 45 00:02:38,308 --> 00:02:41,632 She grabbed the kids and headed for the countryside. 46 00:02:41,657 --> 00:02:42,923 Bye- bye. 47 00:02:42,948 --> 00:02:46,053 Thousands of parents had the same idea. 48 00:02:46,078 --> 00:02:49,642 Nearly a million schoolchildren were packed off to the country. 49 00:02:50,678 --> 00:02:55,873 Babs and her mum and sister Jean ended up in Torquay. 50 00:02:55,898 --> 00:02:58,233 It was amazing. 51 00:02:58,258 --> 00:03:01,273 They had a small cottage on a farm... 52 00:03:03,537 --> 00:03:05,563 ...and went to a local school. 53 00:03:05,588 --> 00:03:09,053 Best of all, they could play on the beach every day, 54 00:03:09,078 --> 00:03:11,083 safe from the bombs. 55 00:03:11,108 --> 00:03:13,213 Or so they thought. 56 00:03:14,698 --> 00:03:16,483 Babs, now in her eighties, 57 00:03:16,508 --> 00:03:20,722 still remembers one particular incident like it was yesterday. 58 00:03:20,747 --> 00:03:25,123 There was a couple of planes coming in from the sea, 59 00:03:25,148 --> 00:03:27,443 and I was saying to my sister, 60 00:03:27,468 --> 00:03:30,073 "I wonder what they are, jean?" 61 00:03:31,688 --> 00:03:34,033 And it was two Messerschmitts, 62 00:03:34,058 --> 00:03:37,283 and they machine-gunned the beach we were on. 63 00:03:41,228 --> 00:03:45,712 Course, we came home full of it, telling my mum, 64 00:03:45,737 --> 00:03:48,793 and I won't say the actual words my mum said, 65 00:03:48,818 --> 00:03:52,502 but in other words it was, "So and so that for a game of soldiers - 66 00:03:52,527 --> 00:03:55,153 "we're going back to London. I'd rather have the bombs 67 00:03:55,178 --> 00:03:58,772 "coming down than the bloody Germans machine-gunning my kids!" 68 00:04:05,308 --> 00:04:08,073 Babs and her mum and sister hot-footed it 69 00:04:08,098 --> 00:04:10,842 back to the family home in Bethnal Green. 70 00:04:12,178 --> 00:04:14,923 Which was yours? This one. 71 00:04:14,948 --> 00:04:19,492 So, when you got back to London, what was your house like? 72 00:04:19,517 --> 00:04:22,752 It was all right, apart from the fact we had to have a tarpaulin 73 00:04:22,777 --> 00:04:24,692 over the roof. 74 00:04:24,717 --> 00:04:29,572 Cos the roof had got blown off during the Blitz. 75 00:04:29,597 --> 00:04:33,783 And you still lived there? Oh, yeah, yeah, course you did. 76 00:04:35,727 --> 00:04:40,203 The family's unscheduled break in Torquay may well have 77 00:04:40,228 --> 00:04:42,213 saved their lives. 78 00:04:42,238 --> 00:04:46,392 And after Hitler had had his way with the East End, 79 00:04:46,417 --> 00:04:48,522 it was even more fun than the beach. 80 00:04:49,908 --> 00:04:53,363 If, well, a little dangerous. 81 00:04:57,108 --> 00:05:01,213 More of a problem for growing kids was food. 82 00:05:03,058 --> 00:05:06,923 The Government was keen to make sure nothing got wasted. 83 00:05:08,988 --> 00:05:11,392 To make sure Britain didn't run out, 84 00:05:11,417 --> 00:05:14,673 the amount of food everybody could eat was rationed. 85 00:05:14,698 --> 00:05:17,233 And every time you wanted to buy something, 86 00:05:17,258 --> 00:05:20,592 you got a stamp in this, your ration book. 87 00:05:22,637 --> 00:05:26,822 For Babs' mum, it was a right old drag... 88 00:05:26,847 --> 00:05:28,783 "Stuff this for a game of soldiers!" 89 00:05:29,888 --> 00:05:32,783 ...and provided for only a limited menu. 90 00:05:34,168 --> 00:05:37,733 This is what Babs would have been allowed in her rations. 91 00:05:37,758 --> 00:05:41,803 A couple of pints of milk, some sugar, little bit of cheese, 92 00:05:41,828 --> 00:05:46,083 some jam, some marge, some lard. 93 00:05:46,108 --> 00:05:48,392 One egg and some egg powder. 94 00:05:48,417 --> 00:05:52,003 This much meat and a few sweets. 95 00:05:52,028 --> 00:05:54,213 It would make a lovely meal, wouldn't it? 96 00:05:54,238 --> 00:05:56,753 But it had to last Babs a whole week. 97 00:05:59,188 --> 00:06:02,454 The Government was full of useful advice on how to make 98 00:06:02,479 --> 00:06:04,062 everything go further. 99 00:06:04,087 --> 00:06:07,062 But there was one thing that wasn't in short supply for Babs 100 00:06:07,087 --> 00:06:09,342 and her family - greens. 101 00:06:09,367 --> 00:06:10,932 We... Hate... Spinach! 102 00:06:10,957 --> 00:06:13,652 We had our allotment and we grew a lot of veg, 103 00:06:13,677 --> 00:06:15,982 and our allotment was in there. 104 00:06:16,007 --> 00:06:18,422 My dad used to be quite proud of that allotment, 105 00:06:18,447 --> 00:06:21,052 what things he grew. 106 00:06:21,077 --> 00:06:22,212 Yeah. 107 00:06:22,237 --> 00:06:24,462 What did your mum make you? 108 00:06:24,487 --> 00:06:27,552 Stew, we used to have a lot of stews. 109 00:06:29,447 --> 00:06:33,652 After tea, as night fell, Babs and her mum and sister would 110 00:06:33,677 --> 00:06:36,831 head down to the newly built Bethnal Green Tube station. 111 00:06:40,447 --> 00:06:43,992 East-Enders depended on the underground as the best place 112 00:06:44,017 --> 00:06:45,902 to hide from Hitler's bombs. 113 00:06:48,087 --> 00:06:50,831 My mum got a bunk down here for us. 114 00:06:50,856 --> 00:06:52,142 A bunk? 115 00:06:52,167 --> 00:06:55,831 Yeah, it was a three-tier bunk. Bottom, middle and top. 116 00:06:55,856 --> 00:06:58,631 There was loads of space 117 00:06:58,656 --> 00:07:02,222 because the rails hadn't yet been laid in the new station. 118 00:07:02,247 --> 00:07:05,662 But it's surprising the bunks didn't collapse, 119 00:07:05,687 --> 00:07:09,742 they'd been assembled by Boy Scouts from a flat-pack. 120 00:07:09,767 --> 00:07:13,982 How far down that tunnel did you used to sleep? 121 00:07:14,007 --> 00:07:16,222 I wouldn't like to say how many yards, 122 00:07:16,247 --> 00:07:19,711 but it was a good 10, 15 minute walk. Really? 123 00:07:19,736 --> 00:07:21,371 It was quite a way down. 124 00:07:21,396 --> 00:07:23,581 And you didn't feel claustrophobic? 125 00:07:23,606 --> 00:07:27,862 No, no. I mean, you had the bunks either side and the walkway 126 00:07:27,887 --> 00:07:31,742 in the middle, and I think it was because we knew so many people, 127 00:07:31,767 --> 00:07:35,782 my mum would stop and talk to them and you got to your bunk in the end. 128 00:07:35,807 --> 00:07:38,142 What did you do if you wanted a pee? 129 00:07:38,167 --> 00:07:40,862 Go in the bucket. The bucket? 130 00:07:40,887 --> 00:07:46,461 Yeah, they had buckets, every so far along, with a curtain round it. 131 00:07:47,526 --> 00:07:48,982 Very smelly. 132 00:07:54,117 --> 00:07:57,192 Apart from the smell, it all sounds rather jolly. 133 00:07:57,217 --> 00:07:59,782 It was like an underground town. 134 00:07:59,807 --> 00:08:02,772 With a library, doctor's surgery... 135 00:08:02,797 --> 00:08:04,491 Say "ah". 136 00:08:05,957 --> 00:08:08,701 ...and a hall for weddings or parties. 137 00:08:08,726 --> 00:08:13,182 Every time a soldier came home, they had a jolly shindig. 138 00:08:15,207 --> 00:08:17,192 Did you feel safe here? 139 00:08:17,217 --> 00:08:20,942 Yeah. But there again, you see, I had my mum and my sister, 140 00:08:20,967 --> 00:08:23,662 so I felt safe cos I was with them. 141 00:08:23,687 --> 00:08:26,742 I wonder if you left anything down there? Bit of chewing gum. 142 00:08:26,767 --> 00:08:29,143 I stuck it on one of the walls. 143 00:08:29,168 --> 00:08:32,783 Could still be there, couldn't it? I reckon it still is there, yeah. 144 00:08:32,808 --> 00:08:36,832 But the fun was about to come to a juddering halt, 145 00:08:36,857 --> 00:08:40,432 as, once again, the realities of war hit home. 146 00:08:40,457 --> 00:08:45,602 On 3rd March 1943, an incident took place at Bethnal Green, 147 00:08:45,627 --> 00:08:48,612 which, in moments, became a major tragedy. 148 00:08:48,637 --> 00:08:51,553 Coming up... Disaster in the Underground, 149 00:08:51,578 --> 00:08:55,343 and Babs' family are caught up in the panic and turmoil... 150 00:08:55,368 --> 00:08:57,702 There were so many people down the stairs, 151 00:08:57,727 --> 00:08:59,423 they were all falling on top 'em. 152 00:08:59,448 --> 00:09:01,293 ...and the young office boy 153 00:09:01,318 --> 00:09:04,553 who left his fiancee and dad for the front line. 154 00:09:12,807 --> 00:09:16,462 In London's East End, during the Second World War, 155 00:09:16,487 --> 00:09:18,792 people like eight-year-old Babs Clark 156 00:09:18,817 --> 00:09:22,053 depended on the London Underground for their survival. 157 00:09:22,078 --> 00:09:24,743 But one evening in 1943, 158 00:09:24,768 --> 00:09:29,863 something truly tragic happened at Bethnal Green Tube. 159 00:09:29,888 --> 00:09:34,953 It was a rainy night, the air-raid siren went off at 8:17, 160 00:09:34,978 --> 00:09:38,973 people started coming down into the Tube, as they always did. 161 00:09:38,998 --> 00:09:42,452 But at that moment, anti-aircraft guns began to start 162 00:09:42,477 --> 00:09:45,743 firing in Victoria Park, just over the road there. 163 00:09:49,118 --> 00:09:52,313 So more and more people came down. 164 00:09:52,338 --> 00:09:54,893 And it was very dark, they'd only got one light 165 00:09:54,918 --> 00:09:56,823 because of the blackout. 166 00:09:56,848 --> 00:10:00,743 And there weren't handrails here then, like there are now. 167 00:10:00,768 --> 00:10:03,053 And all the steps were really slippy. 168 00:10:03,078 --> 00:10:06,953 And a woman tripped over with her son, and some old chap 169 00:10:06,978 --> 00:10:11,873 fell on top of them and more and more people kept pressing down 170 00:10:11,898 --> 00:10:15,233 until they were right up to the ceiling, crushing each other. 171 00:10:17,128 --> 00:10:19,903 Although Babs survived, many didn't. 172 00:10:19,928 --> 00:10:23,313 A memorial next to Bethnal Green Tube station, 173 00:10:23,338 --> 00:10:25,383 erected surprisingly recently, 174 00:10:25,408 --> 00:10:30,863 in 2017, marks the worst British civilian disaster in World War ll. 175 00:10:30,888 --> 00:10:35,503 173 people were crushed to death. 176 00:10:35,528 --> 00:10:37,693 What do you remember about that night? 177 00:10:37,718 --> 00:10:43,103 I know I got pushed and I fell over something, and somebody fell on me. 178 00:10:43,128 --> 00:10:45,943 There were so many people down the stairs, they were all 179 00:10:45,968 --> 00:10:49,412 falling on top of them, and I just heard my sister saying, 180 00:10:49,437 --> 00:10:53,303 "Oh, don't pull me out yet, I've got my little sister here." 181 00:10:53,328 --> 00:10:57,023 And with that, whoever it was pulled the pair of us out. 182 00:10:58,258 --> 00:11:00,703 Didn't know what had happened to my mum. 183 00:11:03,808 --> 00:11:06,033 And my sister was going round asking 184 00:11:06,058 --> 00:11:10,233 if people had seen anything of our mum, which they hadn't, and then 185 00:11:10,258 --> 00:11:12,263 an air-raid warden said to her, 186 00:11:12,288 --> 00:11:15,113 "Go in that room, she might be in there." 187 00:11:15,138 --> 00:11:18,993 jean went in there, and it was all dead bodies 188 00:11:19,018 --> 00:11:21,513 she had to look at to see if our mum was there. 189 00:11:23,338 --> 00:11:25,913 Luckily, Babs' mum had survived. 190 00:11:25,938 --> 00:11:29,592 And the next day, life went on as usual. 191 00:11:29,617 --> 00:11:33,823 She still got us up the next morning, for me to go to school. 192 00:11:33,848 --> 00:11:37,743 And the headmaster was in assembly, and he said, "There's been 193 00:11:37,768 --> 00:11:41,592 "a bad accident at Bethnal Green Tube station." 194 00:11:41,617 --> 00:11:44,693 And he said, "Any of you children that were in it, you can 195 00:11:44,718 --> 00:11:45,953 "go home for the day." 196 00:11:47,288 --> 00:11:51,422 Well, half the school come home with us! They all marched out! 197 00:11:55,538 --> 00:11:58,633 Did you ever use that shelter again or was it closed down? 198 00:11:58,658 --> 00:12:01,113 Oh, no, we used it the following night. 199 00:12:02,858 --> 00:12:07,823 Babs and her family just kept calm and carried on. 200 00:12:07,848 --> 00:12:11,313 The German bombing campaign deliberately set up to 201 00:12:11,338 --> 00:12:13,552 undermine our morale, 202 00:12:13,577 --> 00:12:18,753 but, talking to Babs, I get a real sense of the conviction 203 00:12:18,778 --> 00:12:22,393 and determination that was shared by almost everyone. 204 00:12:22,418 --> 00:12:26,552 And I reckon it was that, as much as anything, that got us through. 205 00:12:28,018 --> 00:12:32,233 Many, though, faced a different kind of danger. 206 00:12:32,258 --> 00:12:35,462 Hundreds of thousands of ordinary young men were learning 207 00:12:35,487 --> 00:12:37,462 how to fight and to kill. 208 00:12:38,697 --> 00:12:40,823 James Palmer was one of them. 209 00:12:41,908 --> 00:12:46,233 James Palmer lived in Hulme, Manchester with his dad. 210 00:12:46,258 --> 00:12:49,743 He was very larky, very jokey as a lad. 211 00:12:49,768 --> 00:12:52,973 "Oh, by 'eck, do you think they're impressed?! 212 00:12:52,998 --> 00:12:57,043 "I should flipping well hope so! Very good, what's next?" 213 00:12:57,068 --> 00:13:01,682 By 1939, he was working as an office boy in a garage. 214 00:13:01,707 --> 00:13:05,393 He spent a lot of time with his girlfriend Muriel. 215 00:13:05,418 --> 00:13:08,393 And he was just about to turn 21. 216 00:13:09,858 --> 00:13:13,113 James's birthday was on July 1st. 217 00:13:13,138 --> 00:13:16,143 But it was a slightly glum affair. 218 00:13:17,728 --> 00:13:22,393 War was on the horizon and young men between the ages of 20 219 00:13:22,418 --> 00:13:26,672 and 22 were being recruited by the Government to boost Army numbers. 220 00:13:26,697 --> 00:13:31,592 James must have opened his birthday cards with mixed feelings. 221 00:13:33,728 --> 00:13:37,713 Especially as one of the cards wasn't a card at all. 222 00:13:37,738 --> 00:13:40,633 It was his call-up notice. 223 00:13:40,658 --> 00:13:44,243 Within two weeks, James was being seen off at the station 224 00:13:44,268 --> 00:13:46,963 by his girlfriend and his dad. 225 00:13:46,988 --> 00:13:51,313 James's parting from his father was emotional for both men. 226 00:13:51,338 --> 00:13:53,602 His dad had served in the First War 227 00:13:53,627 --> 00:13:57,422 and had seen the horrors of the battlefield first-hand. 228 00:13:57,447 --> 00:14:01,342 And when his wife had died, he'd devoted himself to looking after 229 00:14:01,367 --> 00:14:06,113 his son - and now he was going to have to let him go. 230 00:14:06,138 --> 00:14:08,053 He must have been worried sick. 231 00:14:08,078 --> 00:14:10,063 He knew all about war. 232 00:14:11,898 --> 00:14:15,422 James wrote in his diary on the day he left... 233 00:14:15,447 --> 00:14:18,143 Muriel was in tears, clinging to my arm. 234 00:14:18,168 --> 00:14:20,472 Dad turned away as she kissed me. 235 00:14:20,497 --> 00:14:23,783 A lump in my throat prevented me from saying much. 236 00:14:23,808 --> 00:14:27,323 I was on my way to God knows where or what. 237 00:14:27,348 --> 00:14:30,753 Where James was actually headed was Warminster, 238 00:14:30,778 --> 00:14:33,403 to join the 13th Tank Regiment. 239 00:14:39,697 --> 00:14:45,143 On his first day, James was presented with loads of stuff. 240 00:14:46,778 --> 00:14:50,783 I'm meeting Alex Jones, a war veteran and Army historian, 241 00:14:50,808 --> 00:14:52,633 to find out more. 242 00:14:52,658 --> 00:14:56,403 So he would suddenly have been responsible for all this? 243 00:14:56,428 --> 00:14:59,472 Absolutely. As soon as he arrived, he would have been given 244 00:14:59,497 --> 00:15:00,913 a kit bag in the QM Stores. 245 00:15:00,938 --> 00:15:03,352 And, of course, if the Army gives someone kit and equipment, 246 00:15:03,377 --> 00:15:05,552 you know there's going to be inspections coming up. 247 00:15:05,577 --> 00:15:08,472 He'd have had to have bulled his boots, he would have had to 248 00:15:08,497 --> 00:15:11,602 have pressed his kit, he would have had to have blancoed 249 00:15:11,627 --> 00:15:15,313 the webbing as well, so given it this kind of nice green protective 250 00:15:15,338 --> 00:15:18,113 layer, which all the soldiers thought was utterly pointless. 251 00:15:18,138 --> 00:15:20,863 "Don't say a word, absolute silence." 252 00:15:20,888 --> 00:15:23,983 So, this is what his set-up would have been like. 253 00:15:24,008 --> 00:15:26,743 He's not real, by the way. Just in case you were wondering. 254 00:15:26,768 --> 00:15:30,593 He'd have had a cupboard like this, with all his stuff in it, 255 00:15:30,618 --> 00:15:32,352 and his uniforms laid out. 256 00:15:32,377 --> 00:15:35,323 And he'd have had a regulation blanket, 257 00:15:35,348 --> 00:15:39,682 everything shipshape, all out there for the world to see. 258 00:15:39,707 --> 00:15:44,393 But amidst all this boysy jollity, James met the corporal in charge. 259 00:15:45,948 --> 00:15:49,682 Jock - a regular soldier. 260 00:15:49,707 --> 00:15:54,352 On the first night, the lights go out, darkness, 261 00:15:54,377 --> 00:15:56,193 you're supposed to go to sleep. 262 00:15:56,218 --> 00:16:00,713 But some of the recruits keep on talking, and Jock tells them 263 00:16:00,738 --> 00:16:04,503 to shut up. But they don't - in fact, they're talking even louder. 264 00:16:04,528 --> 00:16:06,222 And Jock goes... 265 00:16:06,247 --> 00:16:09,863 IN SCOTTISH ACCENT: "When I tell you to do something, you do it!" 266 00:16:09,888 --> 00:16:12,833 And it goes completely silent. 267 00:16:12,858 --> 00:16:16,873 And then one of the recruits says, "Get stuffed!" 268 00:16:16,898 --> 00:16:20,393 And then all hell breaks loose - Jock grabs him 269 00:16:20,418 --> 00:16:24,143 and punches him straight in the face, and knocks him out cold. 270 00:16:24,168 --> 00:16:26,783 Welcome to the war, James. 271 00:16:28,808 --> 00:16:31,393 But it wasn't only this mouthy private 272 00:16:31,418 --> 00:16:33,783 who got a rude shock from Army life. 273 00:16:33,808 --> 00:16:36,143 James and the new soldiers like him 274 00:16:36,168 --> 00:16:38,342 were complete fishes out of water, weren't they? 275 00:16:38,367 --> 00:16:40,552 They really were, cos they didn't have any prior military 276 00:16:40,577 --> 00:16:43,552 training, maybe the only experience they had were the stories maybe 277 00:16:43,577 --> 00:16:45,482 from their fathers. We know james's father 278 00:16:45,507 --> 00:16:47,273 was a veteran of the Somme, for example. 279 00:16:47,298 --> 00:16:49,323 Yeah. What would his training have been? 280 00:16:49,348 --> 00:16:52,232 Well, James, when he first turned up, would have undertaken 281 00:16:52,257 --> 00:16:54,043 8 weeks of basic military training. 282 00:17:00,148 --> 00:17:03,513 It also would have consisted of anti-gas training. 283 00:17:03,538 --> 00:17:07,763 The Army was very concerned about the gas threats. 284 00:17:07,788 --> 00:17:11,232 Behind you, there is a pretty fearsome-looking instrument. 285 00:17:11,257 --> 00:17:13,913 Presumably he would have been trained on that? 286 00:17:13,938 --> 00:17:15,843 Yes, this is the Vickers machinegun, 287 00:17:15,868 --> 00:17:18,043 which would have been the standard armament in a lot 288 00:17:18,068 --> 00:17:19,863 of British light tanks at the start of the war. 289 00:17:19,888 --> 00:17:23,232 James recounts when he first gets his chance to shoot on a 290 00:17:23,257 --> 00:17:27,153 live range, he's so excited he just fires off all the rounds at once. 291 00:17:27,178 --> 00:17:30,123 He's going, "Blam, blam, blam, blam, blam," forever and ever? 292 00:17:30,148 --> 00:17:33,993 Well, no, because all he has, given the cuts to training allowances, 293 00:17:34,018 --> 00:17:35,503 is 20 rounds to practise with. 294 00:17:37,298 --> 00:17:39,593 Which, at about 500 rounds a minute, 295 00:17:39,618 --> 00:17:42,873 meant that James would be out of ammo 296 00:17:42,898 --> 00:17:45,083 in, ooh, about two seconds. 297 00:17:45,108 --> 00:17:46,963 "Oh." 298 00:17:48,438 --> 00:17:50,593 Perhaps because of his enthusiasm, 299 00:17:50,618 --> 00:17:53,482 James was assigned to be a gunner on a tank. 300 00:17:57,978 --> 00:18:02,793 Then in late May 1940, the call finally came. 301 00:18:02,818 --> 00:18:05,993 James was going to fight in France. 302 00:18:06,018 --> 00:18:10,153 He was given 48 hours leave and then, he was off. 303 00:18:12,098 --> 00:18:15,422 He spent his last day in Britain with his girlfriend, Muriel, 304 00:18:15,447 --> 00:18:18,713 and his father, before heading across the Channel. 305 00:18:22,818 --> 00:18:26,362 When he landed, the German army was only a few miles away, 306 00:18:26,387 --> 00:18:29,673 and his tank troop soon found itself under attack. 307 00:18:34,698 --> 00:18:38,603 As we topped the rise, anti-tank guns hit us from the right flank. 308 00:18:38,628 --> 00:18:41,673 Four of our tanks were ablaze before we had gone ten yards. 309 00:18:41,698 --> 00:18:43,723 We were sitting ducks. 310 00:18:43,748 --> 00:18:45,352 It was sheer murder. 311 00:18:46,878 --> 00:18:49,562 I saw some men running amongst the trees, 312 00:18:49,587 --> 00:18:51,773 with their clothes burning like torches. 313 00:18:51,798 --> 00:18:54,203 Men were dragging their pals through the mud, 314 00:18:54,228 --> 00:18:55,873 away from the burning tanks, 315 00:18:55,898 --> 00:18:59,403 and the smell of burning flesh was catching my throat. 316 00:18:59,428 --> 00:19:02,803 James crouched, and he could hear the ping of bullets, 317 00:19:02,828 --> 00:19:05,403 and the clatter of shrapnel. 318 00:19:05,428 --> 00:19:10,810 But his tank driver pressed on and on, through the hailstorm of fire, 319 00:19:10,835 --> 00:19:14,734 and eventually he reached the other side of the valley. 320 00:19:14,759 --> 00:19:17,814 Their first action had been a disaster, though. 321 00:19:17,839 --> 00:19:23,174 Only 4 of the 25 lads in james's troop were still alive. 322 00:19:25,269 --> 00:19:29,094 Soon, his regiment was desperately retracing the path 323 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,283 back to the coast as they Army retreated via Dunkirk. 324 00:19:34,428 --> 00:19:38,333 They were off back to Blighty almost as soon as they'd left. 325 00:19:41,279 --> 00:19:45,614 James returned to Manchester and proposed to Muriel. 326 00:19:45,639 --> 00:19:47,644 She said yes. 327 00:19:47,669 --> 00:19:50,094 But now James had a war to win. 328 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,044 He'd be in some of its most crucial battles before life would 329 00:19:54,069 --> 00:19:56,134 return to anything like normal, 330 00:19:56,159 --> 00:20:00,644 and he and his new fiance, Muriel, could finally tie the knot. 331 00:20:02,358 --> 00:20:05,564 Coming up... The truck-driving grocer's daughter 332 00:20:05,589 --> 00:20:07,894 who rubbed shoulders with royalty. 333 00:20:07,919 --> 00:20:09,203 Little did she know, though, 334 00:20:09,228 --> 00:20:13,844 what use her driving skills would be, once the war started. 335 00:20:13,869 --> 00:20:17,894 And life under German occupiers in the Channel Islands. 336 00:20:17,919 --> 00:20:20,564 They had fixed bayonets and they went through the toy basket, 337 00:20:20,589 --> 00:20:22,614 under the bed - wicker toy basket - 338 00:20:22,639 --> 00:20:25,134 and it went right through my panda bear's stomach. 339 00:20:32,089 --> 00:20:37,138 For many ordinary Brits, taking on Hitler's fearsome war machine 340 00:20:37,163 --> 00:20:39,610 demanded a brazen response. 341 00:20:41,403 --> 00:20:44,934 And women especially suddenly found themselves doing 342 00:20:44,959 --> 00:20:48,094 all sorts of things they'd never imagined doing. 343 00:20:51,849 --> 00:20:54,144 Women like Eileen Heron. 344 00:20:54,169 --> 00:20:59,094 In 1939, Eileen was 23, but she still lived at home 345 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,344 because she worked for her family's grocery business in Folkestone, 346 00:21:03,369 --> 00:21:07,374 where she served behind the counter and drove the delivery van. 347 00:21:07,399 --> 00:21:09,624 Eileen was a bit of a pioneer. 348 00:21:09,649 --> 00:21:13,214 When she was only 20, she'd been among the first women to take 349 00:21:13,239 --> 00:21:15,703 the newly introduced driving test. 350 00:21:15,728 --> 00:21:17,903 Little did she know, though, 351 00:21:17,928 --> 00:21:21,624 what use her driving skills would be, once the war started. 352 00:21:23,299 --> 00:21:27,864 Just three months into it, 43,000 women volunteered for 353 00:21:27,889 --> 00:21:33,533 the Auxiliary Territorial Service, or ATS - the women's infantry. 354 00:21:33,558 --> 00:21:37,713 And Eileen decided to do her bit, and join them. 355 00:21:40,659 --> 00:21:43,663 The Army welcomed her with an armful of jabs... 356 00:21:43,688 --> 00:21:46,104 "Just a scratch! Agh!" 357 00:21:46,129 --> 00:21:49,174 "from a needle already blunted by the other recruits. 358 00:21:50,938 --> 00:21:54,984 She shared a freezing Nissen hut with around 20 other women, 359 00:21:55,009 --> 00:21:58,294 but at least they could help each other take their medicine... 360 00:21:58,319 --> 00:22:02,214 ...before settling down on a lumpy mattress. 361 00:22:02,239 --> 00:22:04,134 "Oh, night-night." 362 00:22:04,159 --> 00:22:06,944 I wonder if Eileen regretted her decision 363 00:22:06,969 --> 00:22:10,604 as she sat in her freezing-cold barracks. 364 00:22:10,629 --> 00:22:13,214 There was 3 feet of snow on the ground 365 00:22:13,239 --> 00:22:17,443 and, OK, the recruits were given a bucket of coal a day, but one bucket 366 00:22:17,468 --> 00:22:22,094 was hardly going to make any impact at all in a tin building. 367 00:22:23,728 --> 00:22:27,304 At the end of the first week, she trudged all the way to the nearest 368 00:22:27,329 --> 00:22:31,734 town for a hot bath at the swimming pool and a nice cup of cocoa. 369 00:22:34,639 --> 00:22:38,504 But getting used to un-sumptuous living conditions was the easy bit. 370 00:22:38,529 --> 00:22:40,304 Eileen was in the Army now, 371 00:22:40,329 --> 00:22:44,344 and there was a whole new world of pain to embrace. 372 00:22:44,369 --> 00:22:48,894 For the new recruits, training was intense and relentless. 373 00:22:48,919 --> 00:22:52,014 From the shrill sound of the bugle at 6am... 374 00:22:54,249 --> 00:22:58,024 The whole day was a long list of drills... 375 00:22:59,279 --> 00:23:04,074 ...physical exercises, and skills training. 376 00:23:04,099 --> 00:23:08,424 And all for a measly 11 shillings a week - 377 00:23:08,449 --> 00:23:12,744 two-thirds of what a man of the same rank would have got. 378 00:23:12,769 --> 00:23:16,374 But Eileen was special, she was a high-value recruit 379 00:23:16,399 --> 00:23:19,064 because she had something the Army needed - 380 00:23:19,089 --> 00:23:21,374 she could drive a truck. 381 00:23:24,199 --> 00:23:28,094 So-called Tilly trucks were used as anything from ambulances 382 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,694 to carriers of vital military equipment. 383 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,523 And I'm having a go on one. 384 00:23:34,548 --> 00:23:37,854 The clutch and the accelerator and the braking is great, 385 00:23:37,879 --> 00:23:40,174 but the steering - phwoar. 386 00:23:40,199 --> 00:23:45,713 Oh! It leaves lot to be desired compared with today's cars. 387 00:23:45,738 --> 00:23:49,034 Every time I go round a corner, I feel it in my biceps. 388 00:23:49,059 --> 00:23:53,333 But these were brilliant vehicles, they were so adaptable, 389 00:23:53,358 --> 00:23:56,074 real dogsbodies vehicles. 390 00:23:57,409 --> 00:24:01,144 But the downside was that they were very bumpy and uncomfortable. 391 00:24:01,169 --> 00:24:05,504 I'm having a great time, but I'm only doing it for one morning. 392 00:24:05,529 --> 00:24:08,614 Eileen had to do it month after month. 393 00:24:08,639 --> 00:24:11,624 Poor old Eileen, she must have been knackered. 394 00:24:11,649 --> 00:24:14,864 In fact, she called it her wretched Tilley. 395 00:24:14,889 --> 00:24:18,374 That was a really good drive. It was nice and simple, you know, there's 396 00:24:18,399 --> 00:24:21,424 only sort of four or five little things to push and pull on it. 397 00:24:21,449 --> 00:24:23,064 But the vis is not very good at all, 398 00:24:23,089 --> 00:24:25,074 it must have been very difficult at night. 399 00:24:25,099 --> 00:24:27,583 Absolutely, and especially because of the blackouts. 400 00:24:27,608 --> 00:24:30,174 Headlights would have been just a glimmer of light 401 00:24:30,199 --> 00:24:32,744 coming from that, and obviously the threat of invasion 402 00:24:32,769 --> 00:24:35,254 was at its height, so all of the signposts have all been taken down. 403 00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:38,224 So you'd have to rely on map reading and knowing where they were going. 404 00:24:38,249 --> 00:24:41,694 Juliette Pattinson is an historian of the ATS. 405 00:24:41,719 --> 00:24:45,424 She knows all about everyday life for women like Eileen. 406 00:24:45,449 --> 00:24:46,884 Well, they're in barracks, 407 00:24:46,909 --> 00:24:49,104 so they're going to be having mass catering, 408 00:24:49,129 --> 00:24:53,264 hearty, nutritious meals that could be feeding hundreds of people. 409 00:24:56,209 --> 00:24:59,154 They actually got better rations than the ordinary civilian, 410 00:24:59,179 --> 00:25:02,114 but... So I think she would have been well fed. 411 00:25:02,139 --> 00:25:05,074 And the rest of the time when she wasn't working? 412 00:25:05,099 --> 00:25:07,694 She worked long hours, but she would always have time off, 413 00:25:07,719 --> 00:25:10,793 and they would go to the cinema, there would always be 414 00:25:10,818 --> 00:25:13,264 dances on a Saturday, women were very much in demand at the 415 00:25:13,289 --> 00:25:16,304 local Army barracks, so I think they played hard and worked hard. 416 00:25:18,649 --> 00:25:21,974 There's lots of nice accounts, where women talk about wearing 417 00:25:21,999 --> 00:25:24,583 a bit of lipstick, wearing non-regulation underwear, cos 418 00:25:24,608 --> 00:25:28,154 nobody's going to notice they're not wearing their khaki pants. 419 00:25:28,179 --> 00:25:31,864 Um, so there are opportunities for these women to individualise 420 00:25:31,889 --> 00:25:34,144 the muddy green/grey dull uniform. 421 00:25:35,449 --> 00:25:38,374 There was a slogan that beauty is a duty too. 422 00:25:38,399 --> 00:25:40,094 So you have these manufacturers, 423 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,864 whether it's of toothpaste or breakfast cereal or shampoo, 424 00:25:43,889 --> 00:25:46,944 and it would be very much, you know, the woman in the ATS, like Eileen, 425 00:25:46,969 --> 00:25:50,264 who would be applying a particular kind of face cream, for example. 426 00:25:50,289 --> 00:25:54,194 There was this expectation that women would pay attention 427 00:25:54,219 --> 00:25:55,583 to their appearance, 428 00:25:55,608 --> 00:25:58,984 because actually it would have a knock-on effect on male morale. 429 00:25:59,009 --> 00:26:01,834 I bet if I said to you beauty is a duty too now, 430 00:26:01,859 --> 00:26:03,663 you'd smack me in the nose! 431 00:26:03,688 --> 00:26:05,824 I'm not going to answer that question! 432 00:26:08,488 --> 00:26:12,314 Eileen might not have enjoyed driving her Tilly very much, 433 00:26:12,339 --> 00:26:16,704 but she was obviously pretty good at it because soon, she was made a 434 00:26:16,729 --> 00:26:20,154 driving instructor and was promoted to the rank of Lance Corporal. 435 00:26:20,179 --> 00:26:24,423 This meant she now had 25 trainees under her, 436 00:26:24,448 --> 00:26:26,164 and a lot more responsibility. 437 00:26:28,649 --> 00:26:31,803 Under Eileen, hundreds of women learned to drive 438 00:26:31,828 --> 00:26:34,944 and maintain motorbikes, ambulances and trucks, 439 00:26:34,969 --> 00:26:38,984 helping the war effort to smash the Nazis. 440 00:26:39,009 --> 00:26:43,264 But she was about to experience something even more exciting. 441 00:26:43,289 --> 00:26:45,904 PHONE RINGS 442 00:26:45,929 --> 00:26:49,954 One day, Eileen was ordered to go to her commandant's office, 443 00:26:49,979 --> 00:26:52,154 and he told her a secret. 444 00:26:52,179 --> 00:26:56,624 Apparently, a new subaltern, which was the equivalent of a second 445 00:26:56,649 --> 00:27:00,463 lieutenant, was going to be working alongside her and her friends. 446 00:27:00,488 --> 00:27:02,984 But this was no ordinary subaltern. 447 00:27:03,009 --> 00:27:05,984 Her name was Princess Elizabeth. 448 00:27:08,899 --> 00:27:11,054 Eileen and Princess Elizabeth were 449 00:27:11,079 --> 00:27:13,384 soon mending the Tilly trucks together. 450 00:27:13,409 --> 00:27:18,154 By day, Subaltern Elizabeth mucked in with the other girls, 451 00:27:18,179 --> 00:27:21,384 but at night she turned back into a princess 452 00:27:21,409 --> 00:27:23,944 and went to sleep in her castle. 453 00:27:23,969 --> 00:27:25,744 OWL HOOTS 454 00:27:25,769 --> 00:27:29,583 Eileen wrote at the time that the Princess was "quite striking. 455 00:27:29,608 --> 00:27:33,274 "Pretty with lovely eyes and a charming smile." 456 00:27:33,299 --> 00:27:37,114 But more celebrities were about to appear. 457 00:27:37,139 --> 00:27:43,164 One day, King George VI and his wife turn up to have a 458 00:27:43,189 --> 00:27:46,104 look at exactly what it is their daughter, Princess Elizabeth, 459 00:27:46,129 --> 00:27:48,884 is doing, and it's, it's all pomp and circumstance. 460 00:27:48,909 --> 00:27:52,343 Until suddenly, King George leans under the bonnet, 461 00:27:52,368 --> 00:27:55,184 starts fiddling away with the engine, Lord knows what he's doing. 462 00:27:55,209 --> 00:27:57,984 "One wonders what this bit does?" 463 00:27:58,009 --> 00:28:02,343 Elizabeth's panicking, everyone else is laughing, then Elizabeth 464 00:28:02,368 --> 00:28:07,514 gets HER hands out and says, "Look, Dad, they're all oily." 465 00:28:08,618 --> 00:28:11,543 Everyone seems to have seen the funny side. 466 00:28:11,568 --> 00:28:13,147 Eileen later wrote that, 467 00:28:13,172 --> 00:28:16,903 "The Queen was very interested to see who these girls were, 468 00:28:16,928 --> 00:28:18,873 "consorting with her elder daughter. 469 00:28:18,898 --> 00:28:21,662 "And the King was absolutely charming." 470 00:28:21,687 --> 00:28:23,903 The visit was filmed at length 471 00:28:23,928 --> 00:28:27,233 and became a very effective piece of wartime propaganda. 472 00:28:28,848 --> 00:28:33,193 For most ordinary people at that time, the King and Queen had become 473 00:28:33,218 --> 00:28:37,273 powerful symbols of the kind of country that they were fighting for. 474 00:28:37,298 --> 00:28:42,993 So, when their daughter, Princess Elizabeth was seen amongst them, 475 00:28:43,018 --> 00:28:45,913 mucking in, getting her hands dirty, 476 00:28:45,938 --> 00:28:48,873 it must've sent a really powerful message. 477 00:28:48,898 --> 00:28:51,993 When the Nazis finally threw in the towel, 478 00:28:52,018 --> 00:28:57,542 Victory in Europe was celebrated with a party to end all parties. 479 00:28:57,567 --> 00:29:01,143 Eileen and the other women of the ATS let rip outside 480 00:29:01,168 --> 00:29:02,773 Buckingham Palace. 481 00:29:02,798 --> 00:29:05,973 And even Princess Elizabeth snuck out incognito 482 00:29:05,998 --> 00:29:07,592 to gate-crash the party. 483 00:29:13,798 --> 00:29:16,973 Four years before those joyful celebrations, 484 00:29:16,998 --> 00:29:19,383 it had only been that bit of muddy water 485 00:29:19,408 --> 00:29:23,913 we call the English Channel that held the Nazi foe at bay. 486 00:29:23,938 --> 00:29:28,472 But some rather unlucky Brits didn't even have that. 487 00:29:28,497 --> 00:29:34,143 It's easy to forget that over 60,000 British people lived under 488 00:29:34,168 --> 00:29:37,592 Nazi control here in the Channel Islands... 489 00:29:39,888 --> 00:29:44,592 "from June 1940 all the way through to 1945. 490 00:29:46,168 --> 00:29:49,993 The German invaders were excited to have claimed a little 491 00:29:50,018 --> 00:29:52,233 piece of Britain. I suppose that, for them, 492 00:29:52,258 --> 00:29:55,542 compared to fighting, say, on the Russian front... 493 00:29:57,288 --> 00:29:59,243 # Hello, sunshine, hello, sky... # 494 00:29:59,268 --> 00:30:01,623 ...it was almost a holiday. 495 00:30:04,058 --> 00:30:06,853 But not so for the locals. 496 00:30:06,878 --> 00:30:09,313 "Just keep walking." 497 00:30:09,338 --> 00:30:11,682 There may not have been any fighting, 498 00:30:11,707 --> 00:30:13,623 but the very feeling of being 499 00:30:13,648 --> 00:30:17,263 British, and any connection with Britain was under attack. 500 00:30:17,288 --> 00:30:19,193 Can you imagine what life would have 501 00:30:19,218 --> 00:30:21,623 been like here during the German occupation? 502 00:30:21,648 --> 00:30:24,783 Wouldn't have been a lot of happy, smiling faces, I can tell you that. 503 00:30:26,718 --> 00:30:29,422 One ordinary Briton, Hubert Lanyon, 504 00:30:29,447 --> 00:30:34,063 was the only baker on the small island of Sark, just off Guernsey. 505 00:30:34,088 --> 00:30:36,873 He lived there with his wife and four kids, 506 00:30:36,898 --> 00:30:39,503 including five-year-old Maisie. 507 00:30:39,528 --> 00:30:43,273 I just remembered being told, oh, the Germans are coming, 508 00:30:43,298 --> 00:30:47,043 the Germans are coming, and then when they arrived, they marched, 509 00:30:47,068 --> 00:30:51,073 and they used to sing... beautiful songs, and it just echoed 510 00:30:51,098 --> 00:30:54,833 all around the island. It was really lovely to hear them singing. 511 00:30:54,858 --> 00:30:57,552 And of course, we were a bit apprehensive, 512 00:30:57,577 --> 00:31:01,823 but once we got to know them, the ordinary soldier was quite friendly. 513 00:31:01,848 --> 00:31:06,833 But, for Hubert, the new regime changed everything overnight. 514 00:31:06,858 --> 00:31:11,422 He even had to share his baker's oven with the Germans. 515 00:31:11,447 --> 00:31:15,232 They had half the week and he had half the week and, as war 516 00:31:15,257 --> 00:31:19,633 went on, the provisions came from France. The flour was terrible 517 00:31:19,658 --> 00:31:22,323 quality, it was full of bits of wood... 518 00:31:24,178 --> 00:31:26,552 "stones, and rat droppings. 519 00:31:26,577 --> 00:31:30,552 To make things worse, the departing British Army had taken 520 00:31:30,577 --> 00:31:33,562 a lot of the Channel Islands' food supplies with it. 521 00:31:33,587 --> 00:31:35,153 And there wasn't much left. 522 00:31:36,658 --> 00:31:40,863 We could manage to grow vegetables which was, you know, a saving grace. 523 00:31:40,888 --> 00:31:43,843 We didn't have meat, we didn't have much meat, just rabbit. 524 00:31:43,868 --> 00:31:46,323 But, er, whatever animal was killed had to be shared 525 00:31:46,348 --> 00:31:48,913 with the Germans, the Germans had their proportion, 526 00:31:48,938 --> 00:31:52,193 and there was so much left for the islanders. Yeah. 527 00:31:54,298 --> 00:31:58,552 So the local people started to think outside the box, 528 00:31:58,577 --> 00:32:02,273 and go in search of new culinary experiences. 529 00:32:02,298 --> 00:32:04,113 II 530 00:32:04,138 --> 00:32:07,623 The beach was awash with seaweed, which they harvested 531 00:32:07,648 --> 00:32:09,633 and boiled up to make jelly. 532 00:32:11,008 --> 00:32:14,763 It wasn't too bad, if it was flavoured with blackberries 533 00:32:14,788 --> 00:32:17,633 or frankly anything they could lay their hands on. 534 00:32:19,028 --> 00:32:22,843 As time went by, the food shortages got worse and worse. 535 00:32:22,868 --> 00:32:26,472 The fishermen were only allowed to go about a mile out to sea 536 00:32:26,497 --> 00:32:29,692 because the Germans were frightened that they would run away. 537 00:32:29,717 --> 00:32:33,923 Basic commodities like soap began to disappear off the shelves. 538 00:32:33,948 --> 00:32:38,153 What little there was was reserved for newborn babies. 539 00:32:38,178 --> 00:32:41,403 Moss replaced cotton wool in the hospitals. 540 00:32:41,428 --> 00:32:44,393 Some people said they couldn't recognise their friends 541 00:32:44,418 --> 00:32:47,713 and colleagues in the street cos they'd grown so thin. 542 00:32:47,738 --> 00:32:51,232 Even the Germans were hungry. 543 00:32:51,257 --> 00:32:53,843 When it came towards the end of the war, 544 00:32:53,868 --> 00:32:56,993 they shot cats, they ate cats. The Germans? 545 00:32:57,018 --> 00:33:01,583 Yes, we saw them go up the lane with our cat strung on their belt. 546 00:33:01,608 --> 00:33:05,482 You're kidding. Our cat was on his belt, they'd...they'd shot it. 547 00:33:05,507 --> 00:33:09,043 That must have been awful for a little girl to see that. It was terrible. 548 00:33:09,068 --> 00:33:13,403 Maisie's father Hubert decided to make a stand. 549 00:33:13,428 --> 00:33:16,663 In June 1942, the Germans had confiscated 550 00:33:16,688 --> 00:33:21,793 the radios on the island and, now people couldn't even get the news. 551 00:33:21,818 --> 00:33:24,403 So Hubert joined a secret organisation, 552 00:33:24,428 --> 00:33:27,513 defiantly named GUNS - 553 00:33:27,538 --> 00:33:28,833 the Guernsey 554 00:33:28,858 --> 00:33:30,403 Underground 555 00:33:30,428 --> 00:33:31,993 News Service. 556 00:33:33,538 --> 00:33:37,793 Because it was all so secret, no-one knew very much about it. 557 00:33:37,818 --> 00:33:39,203 But... 558 00:33:39,228 --> 00:33:43,423 This building is now the Priaulx Library, 559 00:33:43,448 --> 00:33:46,944 and it's here that I reckon I am going to find the evidence 560 00:33:46,969 --> 00:33:51,463 I need about what Maisie's dad was doing in the war. 561 00:33:54,328 --> 00:33:58,333 Historian Gilly Carr has found some of the news sheets that the 562 00:33:58,358 --> 00:33:59,824 resistance group published. 563 00:33:59,849 --> 00:34:02,054 Oh, look, there's V for Victory. 564 00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:04,834 GUNS and V for Victory. 565 00:34:04,859 --> 00:34:09,223 These are original copies, and as you can see, they're typed out 566 00:34:09,248 --> 00:34:12,553 on tomato packing paper, which is really thin. 567 00:34:12,578 --> 00:34:15,543 And if you were caught with one of these, you would have been arrested? 568 00:34:15,568 --> 00:34:17,944 Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Yes. 569 00:34:17,969 --> 00:34:21,834 So what was it that Maisie's dad actually did on this newspaper? 570 00:34:21,859 --> 00:34:24,914 He was the distributor of GUNS in Sark. 571 00:34:24,939 --> 00:34:28,064 He had a little library at the back of the bakery, and 572 00:34:28,089 --> 00:34:32,014 so he would take a newsletter and put it inside a book in the library 573 00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:35,343 so people would come along and browse in the library and, you know. 574 00:34:35,368 --> 00:34:39,654 But apparently there were even German soldiers who knew about it, 575 00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:43,634 but stayed silent cos they also wanted to have the real news. 576 00:34:45,219 --> 00:34:48,714 But not everyone could be trusted to keep a secret. 577 00:34:48,739 --> 00:34:53,204 Some islanders were prepared to trade information for food, 578 00:34:53,229 --> 00:34:57,433 even at the risk of having their houses daubed with the swastika. 579 00:34:57,458 --> 00:35:01,754 One day, acting on a tip-off, the Germans came to the Lanyons' 580 00:35:01,779 --> 00:35:05,194 house, searching for Hubert and his newsletters. 581 00:35:08,889 --> 00:35:11,914 They had fixed bayonets and they went through the toy basket 582 00:35:11,939 --> 00:35:13,664 under the bed - wicker toy basket - 583 00:35:13,689 --> 00:35:16,251 and it went right through my panda bear's stomach. 584 00:35:16,276 --> 00:35:17,891 That's outrageous! 585 00:35:17,916 --> 00:35:19,731 THEY CHUCKLE 586 00:35:19,756 --> 00:35:22,530 But it wasn't long before they found her dad. 587 00:35:23,826 --> 00:35:27,450 They beat him up and knocked teeth out and, and he was...he was 588 00:35:27,475 --> 00:35:31,761 unconscious for a while, and then they hauled him off, hands behind 589 00:35:31,786 --> 00:35:35,481 his back and holding his hair and pulling...and he went past our door 590 00:35:35,506 --> 00:35:39,200 with all the family standing on the doorstep, and he just looked at us 591 00:35:39,225 --> 00:35:42,931 and I suppose he thought, "When will I ever see them again?" 592 00:35:42,956 --> 00:35:45,450 Can you remember what YOU were thinking? 593 00:35:45,475 --> 00:35:50,011 Well, I just thought they were being cruel to my daddy. 594 00:35:50,036 --> 00:35:52,971 Was your mum able to explain to you what was going on? 595 00:35:52,996 --> 00:35:55,171 She didn't know where he was for a month. 596 00:35:55,196 --> 00:35:59,171 We thought he'd been taken to concentration camp and perhaps shot. 597 00:36:00,516 --> 00:36:03,460 Then the family discovered Hubert was alive 598 00:36:03,485 --> 00:36:05,651 and in prison on the island. 599 00:36:05,676 --> 00:36:08,041 Maisie's mum pleaded for his release, 600 00:36:08,066 --> 00:36:11,530 saying that the islanders were desperate for him to bake bread. 601 00:36:13,206 --> 00:36:16,320 After four months in prison, he was released. 602 00:36:16,345 --> 00:36:20,841 But five others involved in the free paper were deported to Germany, 603 00:36:20,866 --> 00:36:23,121 where two of them died in prison. 604 00:36:24,276 --> 00:36:27,361 I consider my father was lucky to come home to us. Sure. 605 00:36:27,386 --> 00:36:31,601 And I do still feel very sorry for the people whose lives were lost. 606 00:36:31,626 --> 00:36:35,290 Of course, there's no doubt that Hubert was a very brave man, 607 00:36:35,315 --> 00:36:37,280 But it does make me wonder 608 00:36:37,305 --> 00:36:40,891 what I would have done in a similar situation. 609 00:36:40,916 --> 00:36:45,571 Would I have resisted, knowing that it could put my family 610 00:36:45,596 --> 00:36:47,501 and my neighbours in jeopardy? 611 00:36:47,526 --> 00:36:50,450 Or would I just have gone about my business 612 00:36:50,475 --> 00:36:53,971 and kept my head down til the end of the war? 613 00:36:53,996 --> 00:36:55,561 I really don't know. 614 00:36:57,076 --> 00:37:01,371 Coming up... Over-sexed, overpaid, and over here. 615 00:37:01,396 --> 00:37:05,330 Britain is invaded by swaggering American soldiers. 616 00:37:05,355 --> 00:37:10,101 Can one young Englishwoman find lasting love in wartime? 617 00:37:18,368 --> 00:37:22,103 In the Second World War, victory against the Nazis 618 00:37:22,128 --> 00:37:26,772 depended on an event that happened far away, on the other side 619 00:37:26,797 --> 00:37:31,013 of the world, on the peaceful Pacific islands of Hawaii. 620 00:37:35,288 --> 00:37:39,333 In December 1941, the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, 621 00:37:39,358 --> 00:37:42,572 and forced the United States into the war. 622 00:37:42,597 --> 00:37:44,902 BUGLE PLAYS 623 00:37:47,518 --> 00:37:50,022 The cavalry had arrived. 624 00:37:50,047 --> 00:37:54,652 And very quickly, our little island was swarming with Americans. 625 00:37:54,677 --> 00:37:58,572 One and a half million of them were either stationed here or 626 00:37:58,597 --> 00:38:01,642 stopped off here on their way to Germany. 627 00:38:01,667 --> 00:38:05,902 This development had a decisive impact on the course of the war 628 00:38:05,927 --> 00:38:10,133 and meant a heck of a lot to the Brits who worked with them, fought 629 00:38:10,158 --> 00:38:15,702 with them or, as was often the case, fell in love with the American Gls. 630 00:38:20,398 --> 00:38:23,333 Joy Beebe would be one of them. 631 00:38:23,358 --> 00:38:27,423 But back in 1941, before the Gls arrived, she was just 16, 632 00:38:27,448 --> 00:38:31,572 and a love affair was the last thing on her mind. 633 00:38:34,398 --> 00:38:37,423 Joy soon became her family's only wage earner 634 00:38:37,448 --> 00:38:41,253 and had to support her mother and two younger brothers. 635 00:38:41,278 --> 00:38:45,543 She'd catch the train before half seven each day, when it was cheaper. 636 00:38:45,568 --> 00:38:48,582 But instead of leaves or snow on the line, 637 00:38:48,607 --> 00:38:52,853 there was the threat of blown-up bridges or unexploded shells. 638 00:38:54,677 --> 00:38:58,373 She had a boring job at the Inland Revenue in the city, 639 00:38:58,398 --> 00:39:01,733 typing letters to people who hadn't paid their tax. 640 00:39:01,758 --> 00:39:04,572 Joy lived for her daily break. 641 00:39:04,597 --> 00:39:07,263 CUCKOO 642 00:39:07,288 --> 00:39:09,943 Best time of day was the lunch hour. 643 00:39:09,968 --> 00:39:14,183 And I could walk in the gardens of the Tower of London. 644 00:39:14,208 --> 00:39:18,413 At the end of each day, she'd catch the train home before night fell 645 00:39:18,438 --> 00:39:20,983 and the bombing started once again. 646 00:39:22,318 --> 00:39:26,373 Supper could be an omelette, made from powdered egg, or if there was 647 00:39:26,398 --> 00:39:31,263 nothing else available, there was the sinister threat of whale meat. 648 00:39:34,597 --> 00:39:36,822 In the evenings, they'd listen to jazz 649 00:39:36,847 --> 00:39:39,023 or popular songs on the record player... 650 00:39:41,607 --> 00:39:45,373 ...or tune in to Winston Churchill, for a bit of courage. 651 00:39:45,398 --> 00:39:48,863 We will mete out to the Germans more than the measure 652 00:39:48,888 --> 00:39:51,013 they have meted out to us. 653 00:39:51,038 --> 00:39:52,013 APPLAUSE 654 00:39:54,168 --> 00:39:58,652 At weekends, Joy and her friends glammed up and hit the dance hall - 655 00:39:58,677 --> 00:40:01,303 the Embassy Ballroom in Bexley. 656 00:40:01,328 --> 00:40:05,093 Newly reopened after the worst of the Blitz. 657 00:40:05,118 --> 00:40:08,452 It was really a nice place. It was a big dance hall. 658 00:40:08,477 --> 00:40:10,582 And they had a nice band. 659 00:40:15,158 --> 00:40:19,493 It was also a popular haunt for American Gls. 660 00:40:19,518 --> 00:40:23,253 Of course, that drew a lot of girls that 661 00:40:23,278 --> 00:40:26,273 wanted to come here and dance with the soldiers. 662 00:40:30,018 --> 00:40:33,223 But these American boys were supposed to be 663 00:40:33,248 --> 00:40:36,373 on their best behaviour. Just look at this. 664 00:40:37,807 --> 00:40:40,983 This is the little book they all had to read - 665 00:40:41,008 --> 00:40:44,863 Instructions For American Servicemen In Britain, 1942. 666 00:40:44,888 --> 00:40:47,503 Issued by the US War Department. 667 00:40:47,528 --> 00:40:51,503 "The purpose of this guide is to start getting you acquainted 668 00:40:51,528 --> 00:40:54,623 "with the British, their country, and their ways." 669 00:40:54,648 --> 00:40:58,093 It goes on to give lots of handy advice. 670 00:40:58,118 --> 00:41:02,093 "The British are often more reserved in conduct than we. 671 00:41:02,118 --> 00:41:05,863 "So, if Britons sit in trains or buses without striking up 672 00:41:05,888 --> 00:41:08,093 "conversation with you, it doesn't mean 673 00:41:08,118 --> 00:41:10,303 "they are being haughty and unfriendly. 674 00:41:10,328 --> 00:41:13,183 "Probably they are paying more attention to you than you think. 675 00:41:13,208 --> 00:41:14,983 "But they don't speak to you 676 00:41:15,008 --> 00:41:19,303 "because they don't want to appear intrusive or rude." 677 00:41:19,328 --> 00:41:23,263 And there's another one here, I really like this. 678 00:41:23,288 --> 00:41:25,582 "Keep out of arguments. 679 00:41:25,607 --> 00:41:28,943 "You can rub a Britisher the wrong way by telling him, 680 00:41:28,968 --> 00:41:31,223 " 'we came over and won the last one.' " 681 00:41:31,248 --> 00:41:33,353 I don't think they'd like that. 682 00:41:34,888 --> 00:41:36,423 And most importantly, 683 00:41:36,448 --> 00:41:38,343 "Don't be a show-off. 684 00:41:38,368 --> 00:41:41,153 "The British 'Tommy' is apt to be specially 685 00:41:41,178 --> 00:41:44,093 "touchy about the difference between his wages and yours. 686 00:41:44,118 --> 00:41:45,702 "Keep this in mind." 687 00:41:45,727 --> 00:41:49,943 Actually the British Tommy was MOST likely to be worried about 688 00:41:49,968 --> 00:41:54,582 the thought of the GI running off with his wife or the girl next door. 689 00:41:54,607 --> 00:41:57,813 And to be quite honest, he was probably right to be. 690 00:41:57,838 --> 00:42:03,303 As one British comedian famously put it, the Yanks were "oversexed, 691 00:42:03,328 --> 00:42:06,532 "overpaid and over here". 692 00:42:08,487 --> 00:42:13,582 But the GI that Joy met in September 1944 wasn't like that at all. 693 00:42:15,248 --> 00:42:17,582 How did you first meet Carl? 694 00:42:17,607 --> 00:42:19,912 He was brought to the Embassy ballroom 695 00:42:19,937 --> 00:42:21,782 by the other guys in the unit. 696 00:42:21,807 --> 00:42:24,902 They said, "You should come and meet this girl." 697 00:42:24,927 --> 00:42:27,373 His name was Carl Beebe. 698 00:42:27,398 --> 00:42:30,273 He was not so laughing and joking 699 00:42:30,298 --> 00:42:32,863 and all that kind of thing, like the others were. 700 00:42:32,888 --> 00:42:36,023 You know, he didn't tell me that the streets of New York 701 00:42:36,048 --> 00:42:37,743 were paved with gold. 702 00:42:39,378 --> 00:42:43,143 Carl was stationed here, at the stately home, Hall Place, 703 00:42:43,168 --> 00:42:44,993 two miles from Joy's house. 704 00:42:46,328 --> 00:42:48,743 He worked for US Army Intelligence, 705 00:42:48,768 --> 00:42:53,353 intercepting encoded messages from Nazi High Command. 706 00:42:53,378 --> 00:42:57,143 Soon Carl asked Joy out, and they hit it off. 707 00:42:57,168 --> 00:43:01,503 They'd go for walks in the park near where she lived. 708 00:43:01,528 --> 00:43:04,782 He was always bringing me flowers or something. 709 00:43:04,807 --> 00:43:09,623 For Easter, he picked a whole bunch of daffodils. 710 00:43:12,477 --> 00:43:16,063 After 3 months of courting, Carl proposed. 711 00:43:16,088 --> 00:43:21,743 But arranging a wedding in wartime required, let's say, special skills. 712 00:43:27,848 --> 00:43:31,452 How did you get a dress this nice in the middle of the war? 713 00:43:31,477 --> 00:43:33,652 You'd have to ask my brother. 714 00:43:33,677 --> 00:43:37,303 How he got it through some friends of his or people he knows, 715 00:43:37,328 --> 00:43:38,582 I don't know. 716 00:43:38,607 --> 00:43:41,633 So, you're saying it was off the black market, really, aren't you? 717 00:43:41,658 --> 00:43:44,532 I believe that it was the black market, yes. 718 00:43:47,687 --> 00:43:51,303 Did you get married in a church? Yes, I did. 719 00:43:51,328 --> 00:43:53,792 A very much damaged church. 720 00:43:53,817 --> 00:43:59,103 The roof was out, and the rain and the snow was coming through. 721 00:43:59,128 --> 00:44:02,582 They'd had little pots on the floor to catch the water 722 00:44:02,607 --> 00:44:05,223 and you could hear the water dinging into the pots. 723 00:44:10,098 --> 00:44:13,662 The Second World War had bought Joy and Carl together, 724 00:44:13,687 --> 00:44:17,043 and they eventually made the journey to America together 725 00:44:17,068 --> 00:44:19,523 with their young son. 726 00:44:19,548 --> 00:44:22,893 The war created huge rifts between countries, 727 00:44:22,918 --> 00:44:25,073 which took decades to heal, 728 00:44:25,098 --> 00:44:28,993 so it's nice to hear some stories of romance coming out of all 729 00:44:29,018 --> 00:44:33,183 that chaos. For joy, at least, and for others like her, 730 00:44:33,208 --> 00:44:36,223 the war did have a silver lining. 731 00:44:38,198 --> 00:44:41,513 The Second World War was the people's war, 732 00:44:41,538 --> 00:44:42,993 and for many Britons, 733 00:44:43,018 --> 00:44:47,823 its triumphant end remains one of our country's finest hours. 734 00:44:52,827 --> 00:44:56,153 Subtitles by Red Bee Media