1 00:00:16,417 --> 00:00:17,976 I'm on tour in Australia... 2 00:00:17,977 --> 00:00:20,776 Some of them might recollapse in a fraction of a second. 3 00:00:20,777 --> 00:00:23,097 Others might be blown apart by loads of dark energy. 4 00:00:24,777 --> 00:00:26,656 ...talking about the life of our universe 5 00:00:26,657 --> 00:00:29,976 to scientists and to space-loving audiences. 6 00:00:29,977 --> 00:00:33,056 I just like having my brain stretched. 7 00:00:33,057 --> 00:00:36,576 I'll probably just stop and have a look at the stars on the way home. 8 00:00:36,577 --> 00:00:41,216 On our journey so far, we've explored how our universe began. 9 00:00:41,217 --> 00:00:43,937 So, this is the oldest light in the universe. 10 00:00:45,337 --> 00:00:47,136 But what about our future? 11 00:00:47,137 --> 00:00:50,256 Is there an end of the universe? Is our universe eternal? 12 00:00:50,257 --> 00:00:53,297 The universe literally tears itself apart. 13 00:00:54,577 --> 00:00:56,736 There is some true vacuum somewhere. 14 00:00:56,737 --> 00:00:59,777 We could tunnel into it at any moment. 15 00:01:01,017 --> 00:01:03,616 Does it make any sense to talk about this universe 16 00:01:03,617 --> 00:01:09,097 in 100 billion, 200 billion, a trillion years' time? 17 00:01:11,057 --> 00:01:13,816 Will there be stars and galaxies? 18 00:01:13,817 --> 00:01:16,376 And people, and questions, 19 00:01:16,377 --> 00:01:19,417 and astronomers, and televisions? 20 00:01:21,417 --> 00:01:24,977 What IS the fate of the universe? How will it all end? 21 00:01:51,377 --> 00:01:55,016 I suppose we all get used to the idea that we live finite lives, 22 00:01:55,017 --> 00:01:58,096 and perhaps that's 'cause we imagine we can leave a legacy - 23 00:01:58,097 --> 00:02:02,336 our children and grandchildren, great works. 24 00:02:02,337 --> 00:02:04,616 But will that legacy be eternal? 25 00:02:04,617 --> 00:02:08,096 Can we imagine taking the great achievements of our civilisation 26 00:02:08,097 --> 00:02:10,936 and chiselling them into granite and leaving them 27 00:02:10,937 --> 00:02:13,736 as a record into the far future? 28 00:02:13,737 --> 00:02:19,696 Or do the laws of nature conspire to make that impossible? 29 00:02:19,697 --> 00:02:24,216 Will all trace of our civilisation one day vanish? 30 00:02:24,217 --> 00:02:26,416 What will be our fate? 31 00:02:26,417 --> 00:02:29,257 And what is the ultimate fate of the universe? 32 00:02:34,777 --> 00:02:39,176 I'm going to investigate the theories that cosmologists have put forward 33 00:02:39,177 --> 00:02:41,097 for the end of days. 34 00:02:43,097 --> 00:02:46,656 There is a law of physics 35 00:02:46,657 --> 00:02:48,736 called the second law of thermodynamics, 36 00:02:48,737 --> 00:02:53,816 and to paraphrase it, it means that on a global scale - 37 00:02:53,817 --> 00:02:55,936 so, across the universe - 38 00:02:55,937 --> 00:02:58,257 things can only get worse. 39 00:02:59,817 --> 00:03:02,456 So, things tend to get more disordered, 40 00:03:02,457 --> 00:03:04,497 things tend to decay away. 41 00:03:06,217 --> 00:03:09,656 I was once involved in putting forward the opposite proposition - 42 00:03:09,657 --> 00:03:11,496 things can only get better - 43 00:03:11,497 --> 00:03:15,016 but that is a gross violation of the second law of thermodynamics. 44 00:03:15,017 --> 00:03:17,376 It really shouldn't have been allowed even in a song lyric. 45 00:03:17,377 --> 00:03:19,216 ♪ Things 46 00:03:19,217 --> 00:03:21,056 ♪ Can only get better... ♪ 47 00:03:21,057 --> 00:03:22,616 I think, actually, 48 00:03:22,617 --> 00:03:26,377 songwriters should pay more attention to fundamental physics. 49 00:03:30,537 --> 00:03:33,256 The first stars in our universe began to shine 50 00:03:33,257 --> 00:03:36,337 around 100 million years after the big bang. 51 00:03:39,097 --> 00:03:44,457 But it was another 9 billion years before our star, the sun, formed. 52 00:03:46,577 --> 00:03:48,616 But our sun won't live forever, 53 00:03:48,617 --> 00:03:53,257 which will obviously have a direct impact on all life on Earth. 54 00:03:56,817 --> 00:04:00,696 The sun is about halfway through the phase where it's burning hydrogen. 55 00:04:00,697 --> 00:04:02,616 It's making helium. 56 00:04:02,617 --> 00:04:05,496 It's got what we call the 'solar luminosity' - 57 00:04:05,497 --> 00:04:07,896 it's putting out that much heat and light. 58 00:04:07,897 --> 00:04:11,137 But that is going to be slowly increasing. 59 00:04:14,657 --> 00:04:17,736 Presumably at some point we would find it extremely uncomfortable here. 60 00:04:17,737 --> 00:04:19,016 Yeah. 61 00:04:19,017 --> 00:04:21,296 In about 1.1 billion years, 62 00:04:21,297 --> 00:04:25,856 it will have got to 10% brighter than it is now. 63 00:04:25,857 --> 00:04:30,616 That is enough to create what's called a moist greenhouse. 64 00:04:30,617 --> 00:04:34,457 So life on Earth will become very problematic at that stage. 65 00:04:37,297 --> 00:04:39,696 3.5 billion years from now, 66 00:04:39,697 --> 00:04:43,056 it'll be 1.4 times its current luminosity, 67 00:04:43,057 --> 00:04:45,016 and that's enough to evaporate the oceans. 68 00:04:45,017 --> 00:04:46,216 Right. 69 00:04:46,217 --> 00:04:48,176 So that's getting fairly severe at that stage. 70 00:04:48,177 --> 00:04:50,856 It's really got another 5 billion years to go 71 00:04:50,857 --> 00:04:53,296 that it can keep on burning hydrogen, 72 00:04:53,297 --> 00:04:57,457 but it will become uncomfortable for us well before that. 73 00:05:04,537 --> 00:05:09,777 The destiny of stars like our sun is to run out of fuel and collapse. 74 00:05:12,137 --> 00:05:16,096 The core compresses, but the rest of the star expands enormously 75 00:05:16,097 --> 00:05:17,536 and we have a red giant. 76 00:05:17,537 --> 00:05:19,457 So we enter this red giant phase. 77 00:05:21,697 --> 00:05:23,696 When our sun becomes a red giant 78 00:05:23,697 --> 00:05:27,416 and it begins to swell and engulf the orbit of Mercury, 79 00:05:27,417 --> 00:05:29,976 it's gonna start getting very hot on Earth. 80 00:05:29,977 --> 00:05:32,856 We're gonna need ways to terraform Mars 81 00:05:32,857 --> 00:05:34,856 and then ship billions of people to Mars, 82 00:05:34,857 --> 00:05:36,496 because Mars will be cooler than Earth, 83 00:05:36,497 --> 00:05:38,817 it being one and a half times farther away. 84 00:05:43,057 --> 00:05:46,136 The Earth will basically get fried at that point. 85 00:05:46,137 --> 00:05:47,856 We won't be able to exist. 86 00:05:47,857 --> 00:05:51,216 Hopefully, if humans are still around in some form or another, 87 00:05:51,217 --> 00:05:53,576 we've moved off to better locales. 88 00:05:53,577 --> 00:05:59,136 So, the ultimate fate of our star, the sun, is to be this cooling ember? 89 00:05:59,137 --> 00:06:01,697 That's the ultimate fate of the sun. 90 00:06:09,137 --> 00:06:14,056 So, in just over a billion years, this place will become uninhabitable. 91 00:06:14,057 --> 00:06:18,576 In 6 to 7 billion years, the sun will be gone. 92 00:06:18,577 --> 00:06:22,216 But that, of course, isn't the end for the universe, 93 00:06:22,217 --> 00:06:25,576 and matter that floats out from our dying sun 94 00:06:25,577 --> 00:06:28,976 will recollapse to other stars, other planets 95 00:06:28,977 --> 00:06:31,776 and perhaps other living things. 96 00:06:31,777 --> 00:06:35,296 But that process can't go on forever. 97 00:06:35,297 --> 00:06:38,216 There comes a point in the life of the universe 98 00:06:38,217 --> 00:06:44,137 when the constant recycling, the births of new stars, has to stop. 99 00:06:47,057 --> 00:06:49,576 So, what IS the fate of the universe? 100 00:06:49,577 --> 00:06:51,337 How will it all end? 101 00:06:52,777 --> 00:06:56,056 Cosmologists have thought about this for a long time, 102 00:06:56,057 --> 00:06:59,696 and many have come to the conclusion that the end will come 103 00:06:59,697 --> 00:07:02,216 in more of a whimper than a bang. 104 00:07:02,217 --> 00:07:04,256 It's known as the heat death, 105 00:07:04,257 --> 00:07:08,657 and it begins with a decrease in the rate of star formation. 106 00:07:12,817 --> 00:07:15,336 Looking up into the southern sky 107 00:07:15,337 --> 00:07:17,977 allows us to see a hint of this process. 108 00:07:23,257 --> 00:07:24,976 As soon as you look through a telescope, 109 00:07:24,977 --> 00:07:29,737 you do get a sense of the amount of gas and stuff out there, don't you? 110 00:07:30,897 --> 00:07:33,176 You always hear this wonderful phrase 'stellar nurseries'. 111 00:07:33,177 --> 00:07:34,776 So, is that really accurate, 112 00:07:34,777 --> 00:07:39,696 that you really do have these places where all the action is concentrated? 113 00:07:39,697 --> 00:07:40,976 Absolutely. 114 00:07:40,977 --> 00:07:43,616 In order to form stars, you have to put together a lot of material, 115 00:07:43,617 --> 00:07:47,456 and so you naturally pop off a lot of stars in that particular area. 116 00:07:47,457 --> 00:07:49,377 I can't... I can't stop looking, actually. 117 00:07:52,097 --> 00:07:54,096 Fortunately, we have very powerful telescopes 118 00:07:54,097 --> 00:07:55,936 to see all the way across the galaxy 119 00:07:55,937 --> 00:07:57,456 so that we can pick out stars 120 00:07:57,457 --> 00:08:00,776 in all kinds of stages of their formation process, 121 00:08:00,777 --> 00:08:02,536 from when they just start collapsing 122 00:08:02,537 --> 00:08:05,337 to when they really kick on and turn into full-blown stars. 123 00:08:08,697 --> 00:08:12,297 Stars form from collapsing clouds of gas and dust. 124 00:08:14,257 --> 00:08:17,816 And the leftover material forms into planets and moons 125 00:08:17,817 --> 00:08:19,497 and asteroids and comets. 126 00:08:21,537 --> 00:08:23,256 But in our part of the Milky Way, 127 00:08:23,257 --> 00:08:26,697 this construction process is slowing down. 128 00:08:28,137 --> 00:08:30,977 Is this a glimpse of the beginning of the end? 129 00:08:34,297 --> 00:08:37,016 We see that around the, sort of, solar neighbourhood, 130 00:08:37,017 --> 00:08:38,816 around where the sun lives, 131 00:08:38,817 --> 00:08:42,256 that there's about half as much star formation 132 00:08:42,257 --> 00:08:44,576 as there was 10 billion years ago. 133 00:08:44,577 --> 00:08:45,936 Why is that? 134 00:08:45,937 --> 00:08:47,856 Once you form a star, it dies 135 00:08:47,857 --> 00:08:50,136 and it holds some of its matter together 136 00:08:50,137 --> 00:08:53,136 in a black hole or a white dwarf or a neutron star, 137 00:08:53,137 --> 00:08:55,616 and you've locked that gas up forever 138 00:08:55,617 --> 00:08:58,176 and it never goes back to being a star again. 139 00:08:58,177 --> 00:08:59,896 So in order to keep forming stars, 140 00:08:59,897 --> 00:09:03,016 you've got to keep bringing gas in from somewhere else. 141 00:09:03,017 --> 00:09:06,456 So the fact that the rate is dropping... 142 00:09:06,457 --> 00:09:10,816 ...you said a factor of two from, what, 10 billion years ago to now, 143 00:09:10,817 --> 00:09:15,296 implies, of course, that some time in the future, that's gonna stop. 144 00:09:15,297 --> 00:09:17,016 So, when is that? 145 00:09:17,017 --> 00:09:20,256 It's a long time. Not in our lifetimes. 146 00:09:20,257 --> 00:09:23,136 I think if you do the extrapolation, 147 00:09:23,137 --> 00:09:26,536 you go out 100 billion years or something, more than that. 148 00:09:26,537 --> 00:09:28,096 It's a long time away. 149 00:09:28,097 --> 00:09:32,496 Eventually, we will run out of gas to form new stars 150 00:09:32,497 --> 00:09:34,536 in every single galaxy, 151 00:09:34,537 --> 00:09:39,577 and gradually, gradually, gradually, the universe will... die away. 152 00:09:42,017 --> 00:09:44,856 So, what will our descendants actually see 153 00:09:44,857 --> 00:09:48,777 when they look up into the night sky in a few billion years' time? 154 00:09:54,177 --> 00:09:57,776 Well, the centre of the galaxy is here, isn't it? 155 00:09:57,777 --> 00:10:02,456 Yeah. It's kind of the empty bit of sky up here - Sagittarius. 156 00:10:02,457 --> 00:10:04,936 Peer into the centre of the Milky Way 157 00:10:04,937 --> 00:10:07,296 and, like virtually all other galaxies, 158 00:10:07,297 --> 00:10:10,256 you'll find a supermassive black hole. 159 00:10:10,257 --> 00:10:14,936 Ours is around 4 million times the mass of the sun. 160 00:10:14,937 --> 00:10:19,136 We don't know how these supermassive black holes form, 161 00:10:19,137 --> 00:10:23,536 but we do know about smaller, stellar-mass black holes. 162 00:10:23,537 --> 00:10:27,256 And when the centre of those stars are more massive 163 00:10:27,257 --> 00:10:29,376 than about two or three times the mass of our sun, 164 00:10:29,377 --> 00:10:32,016 they actually collapse into a singularity, 165 00:10:32,017 --> 00:10:33,456 is the theory, 166 00:10:33,457 --> 00:10:36,096 and the space-time around them bends completely on itself, 167 00:10:36,097 --> 00:10:37,296 so nothing... 168 00:10:37,297 --> 00:10:40,816 The gravitational pull is so strong, nothing, even light, can't escape. 169 00:10:40,817 --> 00:10:45,016 So, then we're left, I suppose, with a dark sky, 170 00:10:45,017 --> 00:10:47,656 but a sky full of black holes... 171 00:10:47,657 --> 00:10:50,856 Yeah. ..and, what, fading stellar remnants? 172 00:10:50,857 --> 00:10:52,576 Yeah, fading stellar remnants. 173 00:10:52,577 --> 00:10:57,016 Things like faintly glowing cores of long dead stars, 174 00:10:57,017 --> 00:10:59,336 billions or even trillions of years in the future, 175 00:10:59,337 --> 00:11:01,816 and these are glowing so faintly, you can't even see them. 176 00:11:01,817 --> 00:11:04,336 Now, black holes do radiate very, very faintly, 177 00:11:04,337 --> 00:11:06,696 but we won't actually be able to see that, 178 00:11:06,697 --> 00:11:08,936 because they'll all be too far apart. 179 00:11:08,937 --> 00:11:11,856 You get the sense, I suppose, when you talk about that, 180 00:11:11,857 --> 00:11:13,856 this starry sky, we take for granted. 181 00:11:13,857 --> 00:11:15,656 Although, perhaps we don't. 182 00:11:15,657 --> 00:11:17,896 You know, perhaps it's the most beautiful thing 183 00:11:17,897 --> 00:11:20,336 but it's a temporary phenomenon. 184 00:11:20,337 --> 00:11:22,656 It's actually a very short-term phenomenon, isn't it? 185 00:11:22,657 --> 00:11:26,217 We're only nearly 14 billion years into the universe's history. 186 00:11:28,857 --> 00:11:32,656 So in the far, far future, hundreds of billions of years' time, 187 00:11:32,657 --> 00:11:37,576 if we could still stand somewhere and look out into the night sky, 188 00:11:37,577 --> 00:11:40,736 we would see just blackness, 189 00:11:40,737 --> 00:11:45,096 and there would be no hints at all to tell us 190 00:11:45,097 --> 00:11:48,817 about the past glorious history of our universe. 191 00:11:58,057 --> 00:11:59,976 But is this the whole picture? 192 00:11:59,977 --> 00:12:04,216 Science has a habit of opening up new possibilities - 193 00:12:04,217 --> 00:12:06,577 often when you least expect them. 194 00:12:09,657 --> 00:12:13,416 We've known our universe is expanding since the 1920s, 195 00:12:13,417 --> 00:12:17,256 and we thought the expansion rate was slowing down. 196 00:12:17,257 --> 00:12:20,456 Then, in the late 1990s, it was discovered 197 00:12:20,457 --> 00:12:24,297 that the expansion rate of our universe is actually speeding up. 198 00:12:26,217 --> 00:12:28,456 Nobel Prize winner Brian Schmidt 199 00:12:28,457 --> 00:12:31,297 was as surprised as anyone by his discovery. 200 00:12:34,377 --> 00:12:36,776 1998, we went through and we measured 201 00:12:36,777 --> 00:12:39,896 that the universe wasn't slowing down at all - it was speeding up. 202 00:12:39,897 --> 00:12:43,576 And that was... well, it looked to me like a big mistake 203 00:12:43,577 --> 00:12:46,136 and that I had somehow wasted three and a half years of my life 204 00:12:46,137 --> 00:12:48,776 getting some nonsensical answer. 205 00:12:48,777 --> 00:12:52,176 We knew that Einstein had invented something - 206 00:12:52,177 --> 00:12:55,176 called 'dark energy' or the 'cosmological constant', 207 00:12:55,177 --> 00:12:57,656 which makes gravity push rather than pull, 208 00:12:57,657 --> 00:12:59,216 but that seemed pretty crazy - 209 00:12:59,217 --> 00:13:01,657 that was, sort of, Einstein's 'bad idea'. 210 00:13:06,977 --> 00:13:10,376 If the universe continues to expand forever 211 00:13:10,377 --> 00:13:13,616 and indeed continues to accelerate in its expansion, 212 00:13:13,617 --> 00:13:15,536 then in the far future, 213 00:13:15,537 --> 00:13:18,856 you end up with a universe that's just a sea of photons 214 00:13:18,857 --> 00:13:21,896 being stretched by the expansion of space 215 00:13:21,897 --> 00:13:24,416 and cooling down to the same temperature, 216 00:13:24,417 --> 00:13:27,456 so you end up with a universe where there is no structure. 217 00:13:27,457 --> 00:13:31,416 There's no possibility of storing any information 218 00:13:31,417 --> 00:13:33,296 or processing any information, 219 00:13:33,297 --> 00:13:36,496 no possibility of consciousness or life, 220 00:13:36,497 --> 00:13:38,576 no structures at all, 221 00:13:38,577 --> 00:13:43,497 and that sea of cooling photons will last forever. 222 00:13:47,737 --> 00:13:51,376 The idea that there is a mysterious thing called 'dark energy' 223 00:13:51,377 --> 00:13:55,896 which drives the accelerating expansion of our universe forever 224 00:13:55,897 --> 00:13:58,497 is the standard model of cosmology. 225 00:13:59,697 --> 00:14:03,097 But it's not the only theory about how our universe could end. 226 00:14:07,977 --> 00:14:09,336 The 'heat death' - 227 00:14:09,337 --> 00:14:13,736 this idea the universe just gradually grinds to a halt 228 00:14:13,737 --> 00:14:16,016 and carries on expanding forever - 229 00:14:16,017 --> 00:14:17,936 is a bit miserable, 230 00:14:17,937 --> 00:14:24,176 but the physics of the far future is not very well understood. 231 00:14:24,177 --> 00:14:29,137 So there are, in fact, other, and I think more exciting, possibilities. 232 00:14:32,457 --> 00:14:34,376 So, like the Robert Frost poem, 233 00:14:34,377 --> 00:14:36,776 it seems like things will end in ice, not in fire. 234 00:14:36,777 --> 00:14:38,856 But there's a big caution here, 235 00:14:38,857 --> 00:14:41,656 which is we don't really understand dark energy very well, 236 00:14:41,657 --> 00:14:46,416 and so this is really only one of a couple of possibilities. 237 00:14:46,417 --> 00:14:50,576 Cosmologists have come up with an even more devastating idea 238 00:14:50,577 --> 00:14:53,456 called 'phantom dark energy', 239 00:14:53,457 --> 00:14:58,057 which eventually leads to the universe ripping itself apart. 240 00:15:01,577 --> 00:15:04,176 If the universe has this dark energy, 241 00:15:04,177 --> 00:15:07,897 this stuff causes gravity to push from itself. 242 00:15:08,977 --> 00:15:12,137 This is another really great way to destroy the universe. 243 00:15:13,457 --> 00:15:15,536 So as the universe gets bigger, 244 00:15:15,537 --> 00:15:18,296 this stuff dominates the universe more and more, 245 00:15:18,297 --> 00:15:19,976 because it's part of space itself. 246 00:15:19,977 --> 00:15:22,976 You make more space, you have more dark energy, 247 00:15:22,977 --> 00:15:26,257 which makes dark energy stronger over the other forms of gravity. 248 00:15:28,217 --> 00:15:31,656 Over time, this phantom dark energy 249 00:15:31,657 --> 00:15:34,576 would start to pull apart bound orbits. 250 00:15:34,577 --> 00:15:36,536 So, first, it would pull apart the galaxy. 251 00:15:36,537 --> 00:15:40,096 Stars would start to wander off, 'cause it's still increasing. 252 00:15:40,097 --> 00:15:44,296 It'll start to break up all structure, all matter. 253 00:15:44,297 --> 00:15:45,656 And then at some point, 254 00:15:45,657 --> 00:15:50,496 the entire universe will be... torn asunder, in some sense. 255 00:15:50,497 --> 00:15:51,857 It's called the 'big rip'. 256 00:15:55,137 --> 00:15:57,576 You reach the... the breaking point, literally, 257 00:15:57,577 --> 00:16:00,136 and the fabric of the universe starts to tear a hole, 258 00:16:00,137 --> 00:16:02,896 the laws of the universe and the boundaries of the universe 259 00:16:02,897 --> 00:16:04,136 just start going haywire. 260 00:16:04,137 --> 00:16:06,016 So that's the big rip? So that's the big rip. 261 00:16:06,017 --> 00:16:07,816 I mean, that's one of the theories, right? 262 00:16:07,817 --> 00:16:09,456 There's the big rip and the big freeze. 263 00:16:09,457 --> 00:16:11,376 I love the big rip, 'cause... 264 00:16:11,377 --> 00:16:13,377 ...who doesn't like a universe ripping, right? 265 00:16:16,577 --> 00:16:20,376 The 'big rip' idea can be combined with a theory we have 266 00:16:20,377 --> 00:16:24,536 describing the beginning of our universe, known as inflation, 267 00:16:24,537 --> 00:16:27,856 which describes a time before the hot big bang, 268 00:16:27,857 --> 00:16:31,497 when our universe was expanding extremely rapidly. 269 00:16:35,457 --> 00:16:37,336 So, inflation... That's right. 270 00:16:37,337 --> 00:16:39,536 ...that rapid expansion before the big bang, 271 00:16:39,537 --> 00:16:42,976 could be envisaged as being the end of a previous universe 272 00:16:42,977 --> 00:16:44,656 that's undergoing a big rip? 273 00:16:44,657 --> 00:16:47,176 Exactly. It's... you know, you have these big questions, 274 00:16:47,177 --> 00:16:48,816 but when you look at it fundamentally, 275 00:16:48,817 --> 00:16:51,296 if you have a universe that grows quickly through dark energy, 276 00:16:51,297 --> 00:16:52,576 which rips, 277 00:16:52,577 --> 00:16:55,976 that would mimic pretty similar to what we think happened in inflation. 278 00:16:55,977 --> 00:16:59,856 We are pretty confident we know inflation had to happen in some form 279 00:16:59,857 --> 00:17:01,376 to get the universe that we see today, 280 00:17:01,377 --> 00:17:04,736 so it's not crazy to think that these two things are related. 281 00:17:04,737 --> 00:17:06,576 We don't have the evidence for it yet, 282 00:17:06,577 --> 00:17:09,257 but it's not the worst idea we've had. 283 00:17:13,377 --> 00:17:16,976 We said that inflation stops and the big bang happens. 284 00:17:16,977 --> 00:17:20,936 But what if inflation doesn't stop all at once - 285 00:17:20,937 --> 00:17:22,816 it just stops in patches? 286 00:17:22,817 --> 00:17:27,656 So then our big bang would just be a little event 287 00:17:27,657 --> 00:17:30,016 in an ever inflating space. 288 00:17:30,017 --> 00:17:33,696 And there'll be other patches that stop and you get a universe, 289 00:17:33,697 --> 00:17:36,696 other patches that stop and you get a universe. 290 00:17:36,697 --> 00:17:41,296 And that process could go on forever. 291 00:17:41,297 --> 00:17:44,696 So, although our universe dies, 292 00:17:44,697 --> 00:17:47,976 other universes are constantly being created. 293 00:17:47,977 --> 00:17:51,217 This is called the inflationary multiverse. 294 00:18:01,217 --> 00:18:03,176 So you get this wonderful process 295 00:18:03,177 --> 00:18:06,256 of big bang after big bang after big bang, 296 00:18:06,257 --> 00:18:09,217 yielding universe after universe after universe. 297 00:18:12,097 --> 00:18:13,576 How are we to picture that? 298 00:18:13,577 --> 00:18:17,216 Are we to picture our universe riding on the back 299 00:18:17,217 --> 00:18:21,136 of some kind of... potentiality of expanding space-time? 300 00:18:21,137 --> 00:18:22,456 You can. 301 00:18:22,457 --> 00:18:24,216 I've got a more down-to-earth way, which is, 302 00:18:24,217 --> 00:18:26,056 think of a big piece of Swiss cheese, 303 00:18:26,057 --> 00:18:28,016 big block of Swiss cheese, right? 304 00:18:28,017 --> 00:18:31,096 Each of the openings is like a universe, 305 00:18:31,097 --> 00:18:34,176 and the cheese itself is the inflaton field 306 00:18:34,177 --> 00:18:38,176 driving the ever accelerated expansion of the universe. 307 00:18:38,177 --> 00:18:40,536 And as this cheese expands, 308 00:18:40,537 --> 00:18:43,016 more and more pockets open up inside - 309 00:18:43,017 --> 00:18:45,176 more and more universes are created. 310 00:18:45,177 --> 00:18:47,816 And our universe is simply one opening 311 00:18:47,817 --> 00:18:49,176 in the block of Swiss cheese - 312 00:18:49,177 --> 00:18:50,497 that's all that we are. 313 00:19:00,137 --> 00:19:02,776 The idea of a multiverse is tricky to get your head around. 314 00:19:02,777 --> 00:19:06,297 This is where we keep... the cream of the crop. 315 00:19:07,457 --> 00:19:10,256 But I'm hoping a glass of Aussie shiraz 316 00:19:10,257 --> 00:19:12,616 will enhance my powers of analogy. 317 00:19:12,617 --> 00:19:14,936 Cheers. Thank you. 318 00:19:14,937 --> 00:19:18,256 I'm tempted to draw the analogy with inflationary cosmology... 319 00:19:18,257 --> 00:19:19,576 Well, of course. 320 00:19:19,577 --> 00:19:21,976 ...and say that each one of these is like a different universe 321 00:19:21,977 --> 00:19:23,616 with different physical laws. 322 00:19:23,617 --> 00:19:26,336 Each barrel in this warehouse 323 00:19:26,337 --> 00:19:28,216 is taken from a different part of the vineyard, 324 00:19:28,217 --> 00:19:31,536 so each barrel is a different expression through the grapes 325 00:19:31,537 --> 00:19:33,016 of the landscape. 326 00:19:33,017 --> 00:19:35,176 So, in that analogy, 327 00:19:35,177 --> 00:19:38,296 our universe would be just one barrel - 328 00:19:38,297 --> 00:19:41,376 of shiraz viognier, in this case - 329 00:19:41,377 --> 00:19:45,376 amongst a whole possible warehouse of barrels, 330 00:19:45,377 --> 00:19:48,416 different expressions of possibilities. 331 00:19:48,417 --> 00:19:51,177 It's a good analogy. It's not too forced. 332 00:19:55,617 --> 00:20:00,536 Physicists refer to each different possibility as a different vacuum, 333 00:20:00,537 --> 00:20:05,097 and this opens up the chance that we could be instantly annihilated. 334 00:20:08,297 --> 00:20:11,016 My favourite way to destroy the universe is vacuum decay, 335 00:20:11,017 --> 00:20:12,976 which is a really fun idea 336 00:20:12,977 --> 00:20:15,616 and... and one that's gotten really popular lately 337 00:20:15,617 --> 00:20:18,897 because of things that we're seeing at the Large Hadron Collider. 338 00:20:22,337 --> 00:20:26,336 The Large Hadron Collider at CERN, on the French-Swiss border, 339 00:20:26,337 --> 00:20:28,977 is the largest scientific machine in the world. 340 00:20:34,857 --> 00:20:38,537 In 2012, the Higgs boson was discovered here. 341 00:20:40,457 --> 00:20:42,576 But its properties suggest 342 00:20:42,577 --> 00:20:46,777 that our universe could be in an unstable 'false vacuum' state. 343 00:20:49,977 --> 00:20:52,616 There is some true vacuum somewhere, 344 00:20:52,617 --> 00:20:57,336 and we could... maybe tunnel into it at any moment... 345 00:20:57,337 --> 00:20:59,416 ...you know, and just destroy the universe. 346 00:20:59,417 --> 00:21:02,256 By any moment, you probably... I mean, it's unlikely. 347 00:21:02,257 --> 00:21:03,856 You're a cosmologist. 348 00:21:03,857 --> 00:21:06,617 If you're still watching this, it hasn't happened yet. 349 00:21:09,137 --> 00:21:13,696 The timescale for vacuum decay is many times the age of our universe, 350 00:21:13,697 --> 00:21:15,736 so it's not gonna happen tomorrow. 351 00:21:15,737 --> 00:21:18,856 But it's still disconcerting to think that our universe 352 00:21:18,857 --> 00:21:23,577 ISN'T the stable, eternal home we once believed it to be. 353 00:21:26,177 --> 00:21:30,496 But you might think, "Well, quantum mechanics, could it save us?" 354 00:21:30,497 --> 00:21:34,696 "Could there be a little fluctuation that allows something to happen" 355 00:21:34,697 --> 00:21:38,616 "and reboot part or all of the universe?" 356 00:21:38,617 --> 00:21:40,417 You know, you never know. 357 00:21:41,617 --> 00:21:42,937 But probably not. 358 00:21:47,977 --> 00:21:50,536 Whether it's vacuum decay, a big rip 359 00:21:50,537 --> 00:21:55,936 or a sad, slow heat death over the next 10 to the 1,000 years, 360 00:21:55,937 --> 00:22:00,096 now is the time to explore our universe, 361 00:22:00,097 --> 00:22:01,537 while it's still visible to us. 362 00:22:04,857 --> 00:22:08,136 We live in a special time in the universe's history - 363 00:22:08,137 --> 00:22:11,496 the time when the universe is young enough 364 00:22:11,497 --> 00:22:15,816 that we can look out into the night sky and see billions of galaxies. 365 00:22:15,817 --> 00:22:19,656 The galaxies are not receding away from us fast enough 366 00:22:19,657 --> 00:22:21,737 that they outrun the light. 367 00:22:29,857 --> 00:22:32,576 So, our descendants, when they look out into deep space, 368 00:22:32,577 --> 00:22:36,336 will see black, inky, dark stillness. 369 00:22:36,337 --> 00:22:39,056 And they'll think that this little collection of galaxies 370 00:22:39,057 --> 00:22:41,816 that are all bound together gravitationally nearby, 371 00:22:41,817 --> 00:22:43,416 they'll think that's it. 372 00:22:43,417 --> 00:22:45,336 And that's a wrong picture of the universe, 373 00:22:45,337 --> 00:22:47,576 but nevertheless, that's the picture which our descendants 374 00:22:47,577 --> 00:22:50,336 are gonna naturally be led to through their own observations. 375 00:22:50,337 --> 00:22:54,016 The future astronomers in 2 and 4 and 6 billion years 376 00:22:54,017 --> 00:22:57,136 will think we're crazy, 'cause they can't see the evidence that we have. 377 00:22:57,137 --> 00:22:59,456 I think, actually, it was Brian Greene who said to us 378 00:22:59,457 --> 00:23:02,936 that cosmology essentially becomes a religion. 379 00:23:02,937 --> 00:23:04,096 That's right, yeah. 380 00:23:04,097 --> 00:23:05,896 'Cause all you've got is history books telling you... 381 00:23:05,897 --> 00:23:07,016 Exactly. 382 00:23:07,017 --> 00:23:08,456 ...about the oldest light in the universe. 383 00:23:08,457 --> 00:23:10,816 That's right. You can't go and reproduce the experiment. 384 00:23:10,817 --> 00:23:12,696 We would just have to believe someone else's word. 385 00:23:12,697 --> 00:23:14,176 And then... what are we doing? 386 00:23:14,177 --> 00:23:17,976 Who are we to think, who are we to say 387 00:23:17,977 --> 00:23:22,016 that WE have a complete record of the universe to draw from? 388 00:23:22,017 --> 00:23:25,696 What chapters of our book of the universe 389 00:23:25,697 --> 00:23:28,617 had been removed before we even acquired the book? 390 00:23:32,497 --> 00:23:35,856 The fascinating thing about the far future 391 00:23:35,857 --> 00:23:38,616 in an accelerating and expanding universe 392 00:23:38,617 --> 00:23:43,096 is that you get to a point where you can't do cosmology anymore - 393 00:23:43,097 --> 00:23:45,296 there's no such science as cosmology. 394 00:23:45,297 --> 00:23:48,376 You couldn't deduce from what you see 395 00:23:48,377 --> 00:23:50,656 that you live in an expanding universe 396 00:23:50,657 --> 00:23:53,216 that had an origin at some point in the past. 397 00:23:53,217 --> 00:23:56,536 So cosmology becomes a subject 398 00:23:56,537 --> 00:23:59,696 that is only accessible through ancient books 399 00:23:59,697 --> 00:24:02,336 and not accessible through the things you can see. 400 00:24:02,337 --> 00:24:06,976 So, in that sense, I think that the future of the universe is sad, 401 00:24:06,977 --> 00:24:09,696 because your ability to gather knowledge 402 00:24:09,697 --> 00:24:11,896 about the universe as it was in its past 403 00:24:11,897 --> 00:24:13,497 disappears. 404 00:24:17,097 --> 00:24:19,017 How will the universe end? 405 00:24:20,737 --> 00:24:22,416 I have no idea. 406 00:24:22,417 --> 00:24:23,776 I don't know. 407 00:24:23,777 --> 00:24:25,376 I don't know. 408 00:24:25,377 --> 00:24:27,176 You know, it's very difficult to make predictions 409 00:24:27,177 --> 00:24:28,536 about the fate of the universe 410 00:24:28,537 --> 00:24:30,816 when there's 95% we don't understand. 411 00:24:30,817 --> 00:24:32,416 OK. 412 00:24:32,417 --> 00:24:35,136 We should just make a documentary called I Don't Know. 413 00:24:35,137 --> 00:24:37,496 Galaxies are forming and stars are exploding 414 00:24:37,497 --> 00:24:41,016 and, you know, we're seeing evidence of things happening in the big bang 415 00:24:41,017 --> 00:24:43,816 and the universe is expanding ever faster, 416 00:24:43,817 --> 00:24:46,056 and we're just sitting here drinking our tea. 417 00:24:46,057 --> 00:24:47,497 Yeah. You know? 418 00:24:53,097 --> 00:24:54,776 I've had the good fortune 419 00:24:54,777 --> 00:24:58,056 to share my enthusiasm for physics and the cosmos 420 00:24:58,057 --> 00:25:01,416 with Australian audiences curious to contemplate 421 00:25:01,417 --> 00:25:03,376 the nature of our universe. 422 00:25:03,377 --> 00:25:05,496 Amazing. Absolutely tremendous. Yeah. 423 00:25:05,497 --> 00:25:07,656 Oh, he takes us on a great journey, I think. 424 00:25:07,657 --> 00:25:09,336 Did you understand it all? 425 00:25:09,337 --> 00:25:12,736 Uh... not all of it, but, yeah, bits and pieces of it, yes. 426 00:25:12,737 --> 00:25:15,616 I love the fact that when I finish work after a really hard day, 427 00:25:15,617 --> 00:25:17,136 I can come to something like this 428 00:25:17,137 --> 00:25:18,896 and he can make me feel really insignificant 429 00:25:18,897 --> 00:25:21,417 compared to the rest of the universe. 430 00:25:23,577 --> 00:25:28,976 And I've met scientists under a truly inspiring southern night sky 431 00:25:28,977 --> 00:25:32,976 who share that curiosity and desire to know more. 432 00:25:32,977 --> 00:25:35,217 We've got work to do! 433 00:25:36,537 --> 00:25:37,896 I suppose there are two ways 434 00:25:37,897 --> 00:25:39,976 of looking at the future of the universe. 435 00:25:39,977 --> 00:25:42,296 You might feel depressed 436 00:25:42,297 --> 00:25:46,576 that although the universe will almost certainly exist forever, 437 00:25:46,577 --> 00:25:49,056 we certainly won't. 438 00:25:49,057 --> 00:25:51,096 There will come a time in the future 439 00:25:51,097 --> 00:25:54,776 when it's not possible for ANY life to exist. 440 00:25:54,777 --> 00:25:57,376 Or you might feel fortunate. 441 00:25:57,377 --> 00:25:59,856 You might feel fortunate that we live in a time 442 00:25:59,857 --> 00:26:02,136 when we can look out into the night sky 443 00:26:02,137 --> 00:26:06,016 and see the light from distant stars and galaxies 444 00:26:06,017 --> 00:26:10,336 and from the very origin of time itself 445 00:26:10,337 --> 00:26:14,696 and understand how our universe began 446 00:26:14,697 --> 00:26:17,977 and make predictions about how it might end. 447 00:26:34,497 --> 00:26:37,096 Captions by Ericsson Access Services 448 00:26:37,097 --> 00:26:39,816 Copyright Australian Broadcasting Corporation