1 00:00:41,942 --> 00:00:45,484 A BRIEF HISTORY OF TIME 2 00:02:07,477 --> 00:02:09,250 Which came first? 3 00:02:10,387 --> 00:02:12,251 The chicken or the egg? 4 00:02:16,380 --> 00:02:18,651 Did the Universe have a beginning? 5 00:02:18,776 --> 00:02:21,897 And if so, what happened before then? 6 00:02:26,298 --> 00:02:29,099 Where does the Universe come from? 7 00:02:29,382 --> 00:02:31,566 And where is it going? 8 00:03:03,166 --> 00:03:04,408 Luck. 9 00:03:04,835 --> 00:03:06,218 Luck, well 10 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,161 We have been very lucky. 11 00:03:09,286 --> 00:03:12,161 I mean, my family, and Stephen, everybody 12 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,780 We had a few disasters, but the point is that we have survived 13 00:03:15,905 --> 00:03:18,610 Everybody has disasters, and yet some people disappears 14 00:03:18,735 --> 00:03:20,284 and they're never seen again. 15 00:03:33,084 --> 00:03:35,184 Flybombs were very alarming 16 00:03:35,542 --> 00:03:39,636 Seeking, buzzing over, and then they would cut out. 17 00:03:41,367 --> 00:03:43,779 And when you heard the bang, you knew it wasn't you, 18 00:03:43,904 --> 00:03:45,977 so you went back to your meal, or whatever. 19 00:03:46,351 --> 00:03:49,575 But one did fall quite close to our house. 20 00:03:49,700 --> 00:03:52,148 and it blew the back windows out 21 00:03:52,273 --> 00:03:55,986 so the glass was sticking dagger points out of the opposite wall. 22 00:03:59,186 --> 00:04:00,826 When Stephen was born, 23 00:04:00,951 --> 00:04:03,773 we decided he'd better be born in Oxford. 24 00:04:03,898 --> 00:04:06,288 So while I was staying in the hospital. 25 00:04:07,196 --> 00:04:09,715 I went to Blackwells, in Oxford, 26 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,116 and I bought 27 00:04:11,241 --> 00:04:13,548 an astronomical atlas. 28 00:04:15,190 --> 00:04:17,052 One of my sisters-in-law said: 29 00:04:17,177 --> 00:04:19,806 "This is a very prophetic thing for you to have done." 30 00:04:25,733 --> 00:04:28,200 How real is time? 31 00:04:29,246 --> 00:04:31,767 Will it ever come to an end? 32 00:04:36,347 --> 00:04:40,988 Where does the difference between the past and the future come from? 33 00:04:42,847 --> 00:04:47,018 Why do we remember the past but not the future? 34 00:04:51,971 --> 00:04:55,626 I can remember that day when we travelled through London 35 00:04:55,946 --> 00:04:57,979 and the black-out was over. 36 00:05:01,727 --> 00:05:04,513 And the trains, instead of being shut in 37 00:05:05,173 --> 00:05:07,524 by blinds, so you just travelled in a train. 38 00:05:07,650 --> 00:05:09,600 We were coming over one of the bridges 39 00:05:09,726 --> 00:05:12,888 and all lights, well, such lights as were left 40 00:05:13,013 --> 00:05:14,450 were only in London. 41 00:05:14,575 --> 00:05:16,936 but it was also a completely starry night 42 00:05:17,061 --> 00:05:19,615 You could see the might whole against it. 43 00:05:24,042 --> 00:05:26,029 I remember we all used to lie on the grass, 44 00:05:26,154 --> 00:05:28,612 looking staight up through a telescope 45 00:05:28,737 --> 00:05:31,337 and seeing the wonders of the stars. 46 00:05:32,065 --> 00:05:34,904 Stephen always had a strong sense of wonder 47 00:05:35,029 --> 00:05:38,208 and I could see that the stars would draw him, 48 00:05:38,979 --> 00:05:40,861 and further than the stars. 49 00:05:43,699 --> 00:05:48,935 I was born exactly 300 years after the death of Galileo. 50 00:05:52,008 --> 00:05:54,973 I estimate that about 200 000 51 00:05:55,098 --> 00:05:58,504 other babies were also born that day. 52 00:06:00,750 --> 00:06:02,799 I don't know whether any of them 53 00:06:02,924 --> 00:06:05,408 was later interested in astronomy. 54 00:06:09,005 --> 00:06:13,575 My first memory is about pushing a rather antiquated 55 00:06:13,930 --> 00:06:15,652 carriage built[?] pram 56 00:06:15,778 --> 00:06:17,702 along North Road, 57 00:06:17,827 --> 00:06:19,467 with Stephen and Mary in it, sort of 58 00:06:19,592 --> 00:06:23,842 looking very large, because they had large heads 59 00:06:23,967 --> 00:06:26,371 and pink cheeks, and they were very noticeable. 60 00:06:27,046 --> 00:06:30,209 They all looked diffrent from ordinary people. 61 00:06:31,973 --> 00:06:35,512 I can remember visiting the Hawking home 62 00:06:35,638 --> 00:06:37,393 several times. 63 00:06:37,873 --> 00:06:41,067 It was the sort of place where, if you were invited to stay to supper, 64 00:06:41,192 --> 00:06:45,820 you might be allowed to have your conversation with Stephen... 65 00:06:45,946 --> 00:06:50,587 but the rest of the family would be sitting at the table reading a book. 66 00:06:51,061 --> 00:06:54,121 A behaviour which is not really approved over my circle, 67 00:06:54,246 --> 00:06:58,718 but which is tolereated from the Hawkings because they were recognised to be 68 00:06:58,994 --> 00:07:00,768 very excentric, 69 00:07:00,893 --> 00:07:04,684 highly intelligent, very clever people, 70 00:07:04,809 --> 00:07:07,553 but still... a bit... odd. 71 00:07:09,012 --> 00:07:12,437 My impression of the Hawking family was that they were all like that, 72 00:07:12,562 --> 00:07:14,129 except for Stephen, 73 00:07:14,254 --> 00:07:18,016 who seemed to be the only normal member of the family. 74 00:07:20,618 --> 00:07:22,353 Stephen used to reckon he knew, I think it was, 75 00:07:22,478 --> 00:07:24,614 11 ways of getting into the house. 76 00:07:24,739 --> 00:07:26,731 But I could only find 10 of them. 77 00:07:28,050 --> 00:07:30,127 I'm not sure what the other way was. 78 00:07:32,399 --> 00:07:35,505 On the north side of the house was bicycle shad 79 00:07:36,037 --> 00:07:38,601 had a door at the front and a door at the back. 80 00:07:39,542 --> 00:07:40,747 Above that, 81 00:07:41,192 --> 00:07:43,994 there was a window into the L-shaped room. 82 00:07:45,314 --> 00:07:49,488 And at the front you could get sort of round corner onto the roof 83 00:07:51,511 --> 00:07:55,149 And from that level you could get onto the main roof. 84 00:07:57,230 --> 00:08:00,168 I think one of the ways that Stephen could get in was 85 00:08:00,293 --> 00:08:01,517 on the main roof. 86 00:08:04,373 --> 00:08:07,515 I must say he was a much better climber than I was. 87 00:08:10,026 --> 00:08:13,114 I still don't know what the 11th one was! 88 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,952 Before the 20th century, 89 00:08:19,413 --> 00:08:22,978 it was thought that the Universe had existed forever, 90 00:08:23,582 --> 00:08:27,201 or had been created at some time in the past 91 00:08:27,326 --> 00:08:30,458 more or less as we observe it today. 92 00:08:32,446 --> 00:08:34,415 People found comfort 93 00:08:34,540 --> 00:08:38,283 in the thought that even though they may grow older and die, 94 00:08:38,631 --> 00:08:41,886 the Universe was eternal and unchanging. 95 00:08:45,855 --> 00:08:49,068 I gave up playing games with Stephen 96 00:08:51,041 --> 00:08:53,986 when he was ill that time about... when he was about 12. 97 00:08:54,111 --> 00:08:57,155 Becouse he started taking games terribly seriously. 98 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,807 We had Monopoly. 99 00:09:00,969 --> 00:09:01,990 And... 100 00:09:02,602 --> 00:09:04,926 first of all the Monoply board sprang 101 00:09:05,051 --> 00:09:07,311 railways going across it... 102 00:09:07,436 --> 00:09:09,278 tried to add complications. 103 00:09:09,403 --> 00:09:11,586 And then Monopoly just wasn't adaptable enough. 104 00:09:12,566 --> 00:09:16,024 But he ended up with a fearful game called 'Dynasty' 105 00:09:16,664 --> 00:09:19,608 which, as far as I can make out, for I say, I never played it, 106 00:09:19,733 --> 00:09:22,634 went on forever, because there was no way of ending it! 107 00:09:24,338 --> 00:09:26,635 It was almost a substitute for living as far as I could make out, 108 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,812 It took hours, and hours, and hours. 109 00:09:30,083 --> 00:09:31,720 I thought it was a perfectly terrible game. 110 00:09:31,845 --> 00:09:35,024 I couldn't imagine anyone getting taken up with that. 111 00:09:35,149 --> 00:09:38,094 But Stephen always had a very complicated mind, 112 00:09:38,219 --> 00:09:39,873 and I felt as much as anything 113 00:09:39,998 --> 00:09:42,614 it was the complication of it that appealed to him. 114 00:09:44,651 --> 00:09:46,709 When I was in high school, 115 00:09:46,834 --> 00:09:49,748 I learned that light from distant galaxies 116 00:09:50,019 --> 00:09:51,371 was shifted at the red. 117 00:09:53,402 --> 00:09:56,373 This meant that they were moving away from us 118 00:09:57,109 --> 00:09:59,301 and that the Universe was expanding. 119 00:10:00,521 --> 00:10:02,846 But I didn't believe it. 120 00:10:06,155 --> 00:10:09,793 A static Universe seemed much more natural. 121 00:10:11,824 --> 00:10:16,837 It could have existed, and could continue to exist forever. 122 00:10:21,049 --> 00:10:25,862 We were discussing the possibility of the spontaneous generation of life, 123 00:10:26,471 --> 00:10:30,020 and I think that Stephen made a remark 124 00:10:30,145 --> 00:10:34,031 which indicated not only that he thought of this, but he did even also 125 00:10:34,954 --> 00:10:37,172 come across some calculations 126 00:10:37,343 --> 00:10:40,214 as to how long it might take. 127 00:10:40,735 --> 00:10:44,863 At that time I think I made a commen to one of my friends, John McLennahan: 128 00:10:45,159 --> 00:10:50,786 "I think that Stephen will turn out to be unusually capable." 129 00:10:50,911 --> 00:10:52,808 I didn't [say it] in quite these words 130 00:10:52,933 --> 00:10:55,567 but I made one such remark to him 131 00:10:55,693 --> 00:10:58,340 and he disagreed. 132 00:10:58,675 --> 00:11:01,089 And so we made a bet on the subject. 133 00:11:01,214 --> 00:11:03,289 In a childish way we bet 134 00:11:03,414 --> 00:11:05,952 a bag of sweets on the issue. 135 00:11:06,844 --> 00:11:10,610 And instantly I reckon that my bet has come correct 136 00:11:10,735 --> 00:11:13,436 and I think I'm entitled to payment 137 00:11:13,561 --> 00:11:15,469 which is not yet been made. 138 00:11:19,161 --> 00:11:21,415 The expansion of the Universe 139 00:11:21,540 --> 00:11:26,117 suggested a possibility that the Universe had a beginning 140 00:11:26,242 --> 00:11:29,050 at some time in the past. 141 00:11:30,471 --> 00:11:34,597 The point at which the Universe may have started out 142 00:11:34,722 --> 00:11:37,206 became known as the Big Bang. 143 00:11:45,285 --> 00:11:48,072 The first year he was at St. Albans school, 144 00:11:48,515 --> 00:11:52,100 he came, I think, third from the bottom. 145 00:11:52,973 --> 00:11:54,371 So I said: "Well, Stephen, 146 00:11:54,496 --> 00:11:57,982 "do you really have to be as far down as that?" 147 00:11:58,107 --> 00:12:00,058 And he said: "Well," 148 00:12:00,183 --> 00:12:03,159 "lot of other people didn't do much better." 149 00:12:03,284 --> 00:12:05,089 He was quite unconcerned. 150 00:12:07,031 --> 00:12:11,261 Somehow he was always recognized as being very bright 151 00:12:12,313 --> 00:12:16,141 and in fact they gave him the Divinity Prize one year. 152 00:12:16,898 --> 00:12:20,225 That was not surprising as his father used to reach him Bible stories 153 00:12:20,350 --> 00:12:21,688 from very early age 154 00:12:21,959 --> 00:12:23,955 and he knew them all very well 155 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,739 and he was quite well versed in religious things although 156 00:12:26,864 --> 00:12:30,530 I don't think he makes a very great deal of practice of it now. 157 00:12:31,238 --> 00:12:34,007 Everyone used to argue theology. 158 00:12:34,842 --> 00:12:37,104 That's a good safe subject. 159 00:12:38,062 --> 00:12:40,175 You don't need any fact, sort of, 160 00:12:41,061 --> 00:12:43,212 or distracting things like that. 161 00:12:44,295 --> 00:12:46,602 If you're going for arguing, 162 00:12:48,075 --> 00:12:51,757 you know, debating, you can quite happily debate about anything... 163 00:12:52,582 --> 00:12:53,886 including... 164 00:12:54,526 --> 00:12:57,980 theology and the existence of, or otherwise, of God. 165 00:13:00,991 --> 00:13:03,127 And then someone gets bored, or 166 00:13:03,253 --> 00:13:06,350 Journey Into Space comes on or something like that 167 00:13:06,728 --> 00:13:08,733 the argument breaks up. 168 00:13:11,686 --> 00:13:13,766 In an unhcnaging Universe, 169 00:13:13,891 --> 00:13:17,485 one can imagine that God created the Universe 170 00:13:17,610 --> 00:13:20,928 at literally any time in the past. 171 00:13:23,137 --> 00:13:26,756 On the other hand, if the Universe is expanding 172 00:13:26,881 --> 00:13:29,335 there are maybe physical reasons 173 00:13:29,461 --> 00:13:32,174 why there had to be a beginning. 174 00:13:33,641 --> 00:13:37,358 An expanding Universe does not preclude a creator... 175 00:13:37,483 --> 00:13:43,101 but it does place limits on when he might have carried out his job. 176 00:13:47,179 --> 00:13:49,936 When the family went to India, 177 00:13:50,061 --> 00:13:54,089 it was arranged that Stephen to come and live with us for a year. 178 00:13:55,197 --> 00:13:58,422 He decided it would be nice that he should have 179 00:13:58,547 --> 00:14:01,644 Scottish dancing in the evening. 180 00:14:02,216 --> 00:14:04,903 Now mind you, this was quite an ordinary house, 181 00:14:05,029 --> 00:14:08,213 but we had rather a lot of room and a large hall, 182 00:14:08,338 --> 00:14:10,467 and so we bought 183 00:14:10,822 --> 00:14:12,704 some records, and 184 00:14:13,102 --> 00:14:15,605 a book about what to do, 185 00:14:16,236 --> 00:14:18,241 and Stephen took charge. 186 00:14:19,269 --> 00:14:23,140 And he insisted to put on a jacket and a tie. 187 00:14:23,662 --> 00:14:27,141 And then he was the master of the proceedings. 188 00:14:27,700 --> 00:14:30,071 And Stephen took it very seriously 189 00:14:30,196 --> 00:14:32,331 But then he liked dancing, you see. 190 00:14:35,849 --> 00:14:38,743 There were 4 physicists in my year. 191 00:14:39,719 --> 00:14:41,450 Gordon Berry, 192 00:14:41,721 --> 00:14:43,291 Richard Bryath, 193 00:14:43,723 --> 00:14:45,453 Stephen 194 00:14:45,725 --> 00:14:47,046 myself. 195 00:14:49,389 --> 00:14:52,086 I first remember Stephen 196 00:14:52,259 --> 00:14:55,924 on the occasion when Gordon and I went up after dinner to his room, 197 00:14:56,096 --> 00:14:59,144 to try to find him. 198 00:14:59,730 --> 00:15:01,535 And Stephen was up there 199 00:15:01,660 --> 00:15:04,066 with a crate of beer, 200 00:15:04,192 --> 00:15:06,432 slowly drinking his way through it. 201 00:15:07,325 --> 00:15:08,851 He was only 17, 202 00:15:08,976 --> 00:15:11,248 he couldn't legally go into a pub. 203 00:15:11,374 --> 00:15:14,398 He did come at Oxford ridiculously early. 204 00:15:19,146 --> 00:15:22,766 We used to have what we called a "gathering net". 205 00:15:24,179 --> 00:15:27,733 We used to organize that at beer parties and various things like that 206 00:15:27,858 --> 00:15:31,165 to gather under this cover as many freshman as we could get, you see 207 00:15:31,290 --> 00:15:33,052 get them to join the boat club. 208 00:15:33,830 --> 00:15:36,257 And that's how we collected him, you see. 209 00:15:43,004 --> 00:15:45,929 But the question, always, with Stephen, was 210 00:15:46,733 --> 00:15:49,233 "Should we make him the cox of the first 8," 211 00:15:49,359 --> 00:15:51,702 "or the second 8?", you see? 212 00:15:52,198 --> 00:15:55,534 Well, coxes can be adventurous. 213 00:15:55,660 --> 00:15:59,280 But some coxes can be very steady people, you see. 214 00:15:59,791 --> 00:16:02,946 He was rather an adventurous type. 215 00:16:04,716 --> 00:16:08,834 You never knew could what he was going to do when he went out with the crew. 216 00:16:14,298 --> 00:16:17,501 I think he used to bring his work there with him into the boat sometimes 217 00:16:17,676 --> 00:16:21,506 Some thinking here was going on... Different levels. 218 00:16:25,141 --> 00:16:29,305 We were asked to read a chapter, chapter 10 219 00:16:29,479 --> 00:16:32,402 in a book about electricity and magntism 220 00:16:32,527 --> 00:16:34,017 by Bleaney & Bleaney, 221 00:16:34,142 --> 00:16:36,773 an unlikely combination of a husband and wife team. 222 00:16:37,245 --> 00:16:40,691 And at the end of that chapter there were 13 questions, 223 00:16:41,238 --> 00:16:43,820 all of them final honours questions. 224 00:16:44,260 --> 00:16:48,085 I discovered very rapidly that I couldn't do any of them. 225 00:16:48,691 --> 00:16:51,160 Richard and I worked together for the week, 226 00:16:51,431 --> 00:16:53,847 and we managed to do one a half questions, 227 00:16:53,972 --> 00:16:55,895 which we felt very proud of. 228 00:16:56,021 --> 00:16:58,083 Gordon refused all assistance 229 00:16:58,354 --> 00:17:01,168 and managed to do one all by himself. 230 00:17:01,470 --> 00:17:04,362 Stephen, as always, hadn't even started. 231 00:17:04,487 --> 00:17:08,593 But the next morning, he went up to his rooms at 9 o'clock, 232 00:17:09,727 --> 00:17:13,060 and we came back about 12, maybe five past 12, 233 00:17:13,230 --> 00:17:17,012 and down came Stephen, we were in the college gateway, the lodge, 234 00:17:17,489 --> 00:17:21,058 "Ah, Hawking," I said, "how many have you managed to do then?" 235 00:17:21,183 --> 00:17:22,338 "Well," he said: 236 00:17:22,463 --> 00:17:25,068 "I've only had time to the first 10." 237 00:17:25,985 --> 00:17:28,088 I think at that point we realised 238 00:17:28,213 --> 00:17:30,707 that it's not just we weren't in the same street, 239 00:17:30,832 --> 00:17:33,284 we weren't on the same planet. 240 00:17:36,626 --> 00:17:41,631 I once calculated that I did about 1 000 hours work 241 00:17:41,950 --> 00:17:44,896 in the 3 years I was at Oxford. 242 00:17:45,465 --> 00:17:47,753 An average of one hour a day. 243 00:17:49,066 --> 00:17:51,658 I'm not proud of this lack of work. 244 00:17:51,942 --> 00:17:55,312 I'm just describing my attitude at the time. 245 00:17:56,656 --> 00:18:00,380 An attitude that nothing was worth making an effort for. 246 00:18:04,638 --> 00:18:08,072 He used to produce his work every week for tutorial 247 00:18:08,242 --> 00:18:13,988 and, as he never kept any notes, or papers or that sort of things, 248 00:18:14,294 --> 00:18:18,635 on leaving my room he would normally throw it in my wastepaper basket. 249 00:18:18,987 --> 00:18:22,518 And when he was with other undergraduates at the tutorial 250 00:18:22,643 --> 00:18:24,467 and they saw this happen 251 00:18:24,593 --> 00:18:27,062 they were absolutely horrified, 'cause they thought 252 00:18:27,187 --> 00:18:30,328 he did this work in probably half an hour, 253 00:18:30,453 --> 00:18:32,517 if they could have done it in a year 254 00:18:32,642 --> 00:18:36,554 they wouldn't have thrown it in the wastepaper basket, they would have put in a frame up on their walls. 255 00:18:38,313 --> 00:18:40,472 Because of my lack of work, 256 00:18:40,597 --> 00:18:43,713 I had planned to get through the final exam 257 00:18:43,838 --> 00:18:46,981 by doing problems in Theoretical Physics, 258 00:18:47,252 --> 00:18:52,182 and avoiding any questions that required factual knowledge. 259 00:18:53,673 --> 00:18:56,115 I didn't do very well. 260 00:18:57,493 --> 00:19:01,835 I was on the borderline between a first and a second class degree. 261 00:19:02,321 --> 00:19:06,792 And I had to be interviewed to determine which I should get. 262 00:19:08,345 --> 00:19:11,739 They asked me about my future plans. 263 00:19:12,907 --> 00:19:14,299 I replied 264 00:19:14,571 --> 00:19:18,762 if they gave me a first, I would go to Cambridge; 265 00:19:20,136 --> 00:19:22,451 if only got a second, 266 00:19:22,576 --> 00:19:24,889 I would stay in Oxford. 267 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,444 They gave me a first. 268 00:19:35,548 --> 00:19:38,831 I drove Stephen and his young brother 269 00:19:38,956 --> 00:19:41,023 at Woburn Park. 270 00:19:41,792 --> 00:19:46,088 And he climbed a tree; he was testing himself out, I think, I didn't realize. 271 00:19:46,371 --> 00:19:49,915 And he did manage to climb the tree, and to go along a branch of it 272 00:19:50,041 --> 00:19:51,595 and to get himself down. 273 00:19:52,442 --> 00:19:55,841 I think he began to notice that his hands 274 00:19:55,966 --> 00:19:58,141 were less useful than they had been, 275 00:19:58,266 --> 00:20:00,183 but he didn't tell us. 276 00:20:02,456 --> 00:20:04,941 Uni has this square staircases 277 00:20:05,252 --> 00:20:07,436 which are round but they're square. 278 00:20:08,248 --> 00:20:10,984 He was just coming down from one of the rooms 279 00:20:11,109 --> 00:20:13,070 Steve actually fell on the stairs 280 00:20:13,195 --> 00:20:16,986 coming down the stairs and, he kind of bounced all the way down to the bottom. 281 00:20:17,956 --> 00:20:20,068 I don't know if he loss conciousness, 282 00:20:20,193 --> 00:20:22,491 but he lost his memory. 283 00:20:23,761 --> 00:20:27,329 We took him to either my room or someone's room. 284 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,916 The first question of course was: "Who am I?" 285 00:20:30,041 --> 00:20:32,291 and we told him: "You're Steve Hawking." 286 00:20:32,466 --> 00:20:35,166 and a minute later or right away 287 00:20:35,291 --> 00:20:37,255 He would ask: "Who am I?" 288 00:20:37,381 --> 00:20:38,755 "Euh.. Steve Hawking." 289 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,798 And then after a couple of minutes he remembered he was Steve Hawking. 290 00:20:43,648 --> 00:20:47,225 and we tell him: "Do you remember going down to the bar and having a drink" 291 00:20:47,350 --> 00:20:48,649 "on Sunday night?" 292 00:20:48,774 --> 00:20:52,228 Or: "Do you remember rowing, coxing on the river on Monday?" 293 00:20:52,499 --> 00:20:56,731 And his memory came back gradually, until he could remember the previous days events 294 00:20:56,856 --> 00:20:58,325 and then the previous hour. 295 00:20:58,450 --> 00:21:01,617 By the end of the 2 hours he could remember everything. 296 00:21:02,593 --> 00:21:06,993 The question was: "Well maybe, you know, you lost some of your mind bacause of this" 297 00:21:07,445 --> 00:21:11,315 And so, Steve decided: "Well, I'll take the Mensa test." 298 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,374 We said: "Of course you'll get into Mensa." 299 00:21:13,645 --> 00:21:15,573 But he came back delighted 300 00:21:15,698 --> 00:21:19,870 that he was able to get into Mensa, absolutely delighted. 301 00:21:30,252 --> 00:21:34,338 I felt that there were 2 areas of Theoretical Physics 302 00:21:34,463 --> 00:21:36,855 I might study at Cambridge 303 00:21:38,969 --> 00:21:43,393 One was Cosmology, the study of the very large. 304 00:21:47,032 --> 00:21:49,907 the other was Elementary Particles, 305 00:21:50,032 --> 00:21:52,598 the study of the very small. 306 00:21:54,345 --> 00:21:57,424 However, I thought that elementary particles 307 00:21:57,549 --> 00:21:59,171 were less attractive 308 00:21:59,296 --> 00:22:02,295 because there was no proper theory. 309 00:22:03,414 --> 00:22:08,066 All they could do was arrange the particles in families, 310 00:22:08,393 --> 00:22:10,150 like in botany. 311 00:22:13,100 --> 00:22:18,684 In Cosmology, on the other hand, there was a well defined theory: 312 00:22:18,809 --> 00:22:22,298 Einstein's General Theory of Relativity. 313 00:22:29,187 --> 00:22:31,795 It was very a very cold year 314 00:22:33,766 --> 00:22:40,014 and the ice on Veralamian pond was, it was all frozen then. 315 00:22:40,547 --> 00:22:43,042 and we all went skating. 316 00:22:43,964 --> 00:22:46,675 And Stephen managed to skate fairly well. 317 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,480 But then, he and I were closed together, 318 00:22:49,606 --> 00:22:53,482 he wasn't skating in a very advanced way, but nor was I as it comes to, 319 00:22:53,607 --> 00:22:55,781 and he fell 320 00:22:56,197 --> 00:22:58,150 and he couldn't get up. 321 00:22:59,606 --> 00:23:03,270 So I took him to café to warm up 322 00:23:03,395 --> 00:23:06,235 and he told me then all about it 323 00:23:07,295 --> 00:23:10,116 and it was diagnosed. 324 00:23:11,343 --> 00:23:14,113 I've insisted on going to see his doctor 325 00:23:14,238 --> 00:23:17,621 because, it seemed to me, however long you're going to live 326 00:23:17,747 --> 00:23:20,026 there's probably something someone can do about it. 327 00:23:20,151 --> 00:23:22,824 at least anyhow to make things easier for people. 328 00:23:23,165 --> 00:23:25,560 And, I won't mention the doctor's name, 329 00:23:25,686 --> 00:23:29,013 but I got to see him at the London Clinic. 330 00:23:29,509 --> 00:23:32,779 And he was rather surprised that I should bother to come down to see him. 331 00:23:32,904 --> 00:23:35,139 I mean afer all I was only Stephen's mother! 332 00:23:35,264 --> 00:23:39,979 He was quite nice, I mean, he agreed to see me in a rather grand way. 333 00:23:40,104 --> 00:23:42,338 And he said: "Yes, it's all very sad, I mean, 334 00:23:42,463 --> 00:23:45,358 a brilliant young man, cut off in the prime of his." 335 00:23:45,530 --> 00:23:47,949 But of course I said: "What can we do?" 336 00:23:48,074 --> 00:23:52,019 "What can we do to, sort of... Can we give him... can we get physiotherapy?" 337 00:23:52,144 --> 00:23:55,571 "Can we get anything like that that will help in any way?" 338 00:23:55,696 --> 00:23:57,707 He said: "Well, actually no," 339 00:23:57,833 --> 00:24:00,788 "there's nothing to it", more or less. That's it. 340 00:24:04,366 --> 00:24:07,631 Shortly after my 21st birthday, 341 00:24:07,756 --> 00:24:10,727 I went into hospital for tests. 342 00:24:12,930 --> 00:24:15,626 They took a muscle sample from my arm, 343 00:24:15,751 --> 00:24:18,016 stuck electrodes into me, 344 00:24:18,187 --> 00:24:21,808 and injected some radio-opaque fluid into my spine 345 00:24:22,024 --> 00:24:25,133 and watched it going up and down with X-rays 346 00:24:25,258 --> 00:24:27,476 as they tilted the bed. 347 00:24:29,376 --> 00:24:32,641 I was diagnosed as having ALS 348 00:24:32,766 --> 00:24:35,783 Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis... 349 00:24:35,954 --> 00:24:40,340 or motor-neuron disease, as it is also known. 350 00:24:42,002 --> 00:24:44,330 The doctors offered no cure 351 00:24:44,455 --> 00:24:47,799 and gave me 2 and a half years to live. 352 00:24:58,577 --> 00:25:00,884 I went into the graduates common room and 353 00:25:01,009 --> 00:25:04,100 looking really for someone to have lunch with 354 00:25:04,226 --> 00:25:07,176 and there was nobody around that I particularly wished to have lunch with 355 00:25:07,301 --> 00:25:09,315 and then learned about Stephen walk through the door. 356 00:25:09,487 --> 00:25:12,807 don't know what he was doing in Oxford either, I've certainly forgotten that. 357 00:25:12,932 --> 00:25:14,422 And so... 358 00:25:15,132 --> 00:25:18,489 Stephen generously went off to buy the drinks 359 00:25:18,615 --> 00:25:21,468 and brought them over, put them down on the table, 360 00:25:21,594 --> 00:25:25,268 and as he put his pint of beer down, he spewed it. 361 00:25:25,610 --> 00:25:27,881 And I sort of said, genially: 362 00:25:28,006 --> 00:25:31,291 "Ah, haven't you been drinking at this time of day?" 363 00:25:31,416 --> 00:25:35,635 and he then told me that he'd been in Edinburgh for 3 weeks 364 00:25:35,983 --> 00:25:39,488 and they'd done a whole series of tests 365 00:25:39,785 --> 00:25:42,874 and they decided what was wrong with him. 366 00:25:43,202 --> 00:25:46,832 And he told me very straight and flat 367 00:25:47,257 --> 00:25:52,360 that he was gradually going to lose the use of all of his body. 368 00:25:52,485 --> 00:25:55,049 And that eventually 369 00:25:55,174 --> 00:25:59,874 only his heart and his lungs would still be operating, 370 00:26:00,226 --> 00:26:01,779 and his brain. 371 00:26:02,081 --> 00:26:05,328 And that they told him that, 372 00:26:05,453 --> 00:26:08,507 eventually, he would essentially have the body of a cabbage. 373 00:26:08,632 --> 00:26:11,963 but his mind would still be in perfect working order, 374 00:26:12,131 --> 00:26:15,753 and he would be unable to communicate with the rest of the world. 375 00:26:18,853 --> 00:26:22,951 My dreams at that time were rather disturbed. 376 00:26:24,159 --> 00:26:27,281 Before my condition had been diagnosed, 377 00:26:27,406 --> 00:26:30,209 I had been very bored with life. 378 00:26:31,636 --> 00:26:35,620 There had not seemed to be anything worth doing. 379 00:26:37,437 --> 00:26:40,578 But shortly after I came out of hospital, 380 00:26:40,703 --> 00:26:44,578 I dreamt that I was going to be executed. 381 00:26:45,345 --> 00:26:48,832 I suddenly realized that there were lots of worthwile things 382 00:26:48,957 --> 00:26:50,350 I could do 383 00:26:50,475 --> 00:26:52,254 if I were retrieved. 384 00:26:59,149 --> 00:27:02,049 I knew perfectly well that he had no faith. 385 00:27:03,097 --> 00:27:08,467 And to me that made it more difficult, 386 00:27:08,645 --> 00:27:12,667 because you must ask yourself: "Why me? Why this?" 387 00:27:12,792 --> 00:27:14,353 "Why now?" 388 00:27:14,478 --> 00:27:16,761 But he just totally, 389 00:27:16,886 --> 00:27:18,234 flatly, accepted 390 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,854 that this was what was going to happen to him. 391 00:27:20,979 --> 00:27:25,237 And as far as I can gather at that point he started to do some work. 392 00:27:27,007 --> 00:27:32,116 At first, there di not seem to be much time in working at my research, 393 00:27:32,293 --> 00:27:35,331 because I didn't expect to live long enough 394 00:27:35,457 --> 00:27:37,951 to finish my Ph.D. 395 00:27:39,300 --> 00:27:41,924 However, as time went by, 396 00:27:42,050 --> 00:27:44,808 the disease seemed to slow down. 397 00:27:46,337 --> 00:27:49,709 I began to understand General Relativity 398 00:27:49,834 --> 00:27:52,761 and make progress with my work. 399 00:27:54,309 --> 00:27:56,899 But what really made a difference was 400 00:27:57,025 --> 00:28:00,899 I got engaged to a girl called Jane Wilde. 401 00:28:02,759 --> 00:28:05,750 This gave me something to live for, 402 00:28:05,875 --> 00:28:08,802 but it also meant that I had to get a job 403 00:28:08,927 --> 00:28:11,325 if we were to get married. 404 00:28:13,514 --> 00:28:16,311 Stephen was already ill, Jane knew it. 405 00:28:16,631 --> 00:28:19,914 And it was another instance of Stephen's luck. 406 00:28:20,039 --> 00:28:23,544 Meeting the right person at the right time, 407 00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:25,367 because Jane... 408 00:28:25,492 --> 00:28:28,760 Stephen was very very badly depressed. 409 00:28:28,885 --> 00:28:30,772 And... 410 00:28:30,897 --> 00:28:33,262 he wasn't really very much inclined to go on with his work, I mean, 411 00:28:33,387 --> 00:28:36,595 you're told you got 2 and a half years, what can you do in that time? 412 00:28:36,721 --> 00:28:41,104 But meeting Jane, really put him on his metal, 413 00:28:41,229 --> 00:28:43,105 And he started to work. 414 00:28:45,596 --> 00:28:50,035 I wanted to understand how the Universe began. 415 00:28:52,063 --> 00:28:55,078 Einstein's theory of General Relativity 416 00:28:55,203 --> 00:28:58,847 showed that the Universe was expanding. 417 00:28:59,625 --> 00:29:03,170 But there was no answer to the crucial question: 418 00:29:03,296 --> 00:29:05,599 "Must there have been a Big Bang?" 419 00:29:05,936 --> 00:29:08,639 "A beginning to time?" 420 00:29:09,849 --> 00:29:12,848 Then, in my 3rd year at Cambridge 421 00:29:13,183 --> 00:29:18,723 Roger Penrose made his discovery about the death of stars. 422 00:29:20,770 --> 00:29:23,858 I remember talking to this friend, Ivor Robinson, 423 00:29:23,983 --> 00:29:27,044 and we were having some very animated conversation. 424 00:29:27,363 --> 00:29:30,824 and then we had to cross the road, 425 00:29:30,992 --> 00:29:38,708 and as we crossed the road of course the conversation stopped, and then we got to the other side, well evidently I had some idea in crossing the road 426 00:29:38,833 --> 00:29:40,544 but then the conversation started up 427 00:29:40,670 --> 00:29:42,697 and it got completely blotted out of my mind. 428 00:29:42,822 --> 00:29:46,929 And it was only later, after my friends had gone home. 429 00:29:47,054 --> 00:29:49,360 and I began 430 00:29:49,485 --> 00:29:53,677 having this strange feeling of [?]elation, it feeling wonderful. 431 00:29:53,802 --> 00:29:57,415 And I couldn't figure out why on earth I should feel like that, 432 00:29:57,540 --> 00:30:01,179 so I went back over the day, thinking all possible things which might have contributed to such a feeling, 433 00:30:01,355 --> 00:30:03,814 and then gradually I unearthed 434 00:30:03,939 --> 00:30:06,436 this thought which I had while crossing the street. 435 00:30:07,028 --> 00:30:09,697 Penrose announced this result, that 436 00:30:09,822 --> 00:30:12,291 when stars collapse indefinetly 437 00:30:12,416 --> 00:30:14,526 they will become singular 438 00:30:14,702 --> 00:30:18,276 as long as certain very broad conditions are satisfied 439 00:30:18,401 --> 00:30:20,708 that every body would have regarded as reasonable. 440 00:30:20,976 --> 00:30:23,323 and I remember Stephen Hawking, 441 00:30:23,448 --> 00:30:26,393 who was then approaching his 3rd year as a research student, saying: 442 00:30:26,518 --> 00:30:28,584 "What, very interesting results," 443 00:30:28,709 --> 00:30:30,913 "I wonder wehter they could be adapted" 444 00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:33,522 "to understand the origin of the Universe." 445 00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:35,866 and what he had in mind, you see, 446 00:30:35,991 --> 00:30:39,569 was that if, just mentally, you reverse the sense of time, 447 00:30:39,694 --> 00:30:41,809 you can think of the expanding universe 448 00:30:41,935 --> 00:30:46,142 as a collapsing system, it's a bit like a giant, a very giant star collapsing 449 00:30:47,174 --> 00:30:50,652 Roger Penrose proved that a dying star 450 00:30:50,778 --> 00:30:53,501 collapsing under its own gravity 451 00:30:53,626 --> 00:30:56,873 eventually shrinks to a singluarity, 452 00:30:57,757 --> 00:31:01,715 a point of infinite density and zero size. 453 00:31:04,128 --> 00:31:08,203 I realized that if I reversed the direction of time, 454 00:31:08,593 --> 00:31:11,823 so that the collapse become an expansion, 455 00:31:12,117 --> 00:31:13,877 I could prove 456 00:31:14,148 --> 00:31:16,540 that the Universe had a beginning. 457 00:31:19,646 --> 00:31:21,417 But my proof, 458 00:31:21,542 --> 00:31:25,180 based on Einstein's theory of General Relativity, 459 00:31:25,517 --> 00:31:28,892 also showed that we cannot understand 460 00:31:29,163 --> 00:31:31,293 how the universe began, 461 00:31:32,163 --> 00:31:36,444 because it showed that all scientific theories, 462 00:31:36,569 --> 00:31:39,958 incuding General Relativity itself, 463 00:31:40,083 --> 00:31:43,619 break down at the beginning of the Universe. 464 00:31:55,504 --> 00:32:00,323 We had this meeting at the Institute of Space Physics in New York. 465 00:32:00,902 --> 00:32:03,689 I said: "Before we reach a final conclusion," 466 00:32:03,815 --> 00:32:06,248 "we ough to throw into the pot" 467 00:32:06,373 --> 00:32:08,135 "still another object:" 468 00:32:08,261 --> 00:32:12,359 "a gravitationally completely collapsed object." 469 00:32:13,166 --> 00:32:15,066 Well, after you've used the phrase: 470 00:32:15,191 --> 00:32:18,527 "a gravitationally completely collapsed object" 471 00:32:18,652 --> 00:32:19,973 ten times, 472 00:32:20,098 --> 00:32:23,021 you conclude you've get to get a better name, 473 00:32:23,146 --> 00:32:27,783 so that's when I switched to the word 'black hole'. 474 00:32:28,416 --> 00:32:31,655 The word 'black hole', which John Miller coined, suddenly caught on. 475 00:32:31,780 --> 00:32:33,963 Everybody adopted it 476 00:32:34,088 --> 00:32:37,530 and from then on people around the world, in Moscow, 477 00:32:38,801 --> 00:32:42,307 in America, in England and elsewhere, 478 00:32:42,432 --> 00:32:45,641 could know they were speaking about the same thing. 479 00:32:45,766 --> 00:32:50,042 And not only that, but suddenly the hole range of concept's 480 00:32:50,167 --> 00:32:53,615 got throught to the general public, and even science fiction writers 481 00:32:53,740 --> 00:32:56,811 all of a sudden could talk about it. 482 00:32:58,242 --> 00:33:00,194 Tonight, my friends, 483 00:33:00,868 --> 00:33:06,535 We stand on the break of a feat unparalleled in space exploration. 484 00:33:07,827 --> 00:33:12,574 If the data in my returning probe ship matches my computerized calculations, 485 00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:16,467 I will travel where no man has dared to go. 486 00:33:17,464 --> 00:33:19,327 Into the black hole? 487 00:33:19,893 --> 00:33:21,171 In... 488 00:33:22,635 --> 00:33:24,046 Through... 489 00:33:25,417 --> 00:33:26,978 And behind! 490 00:33:29,232 --> 00:33:30,963 Why that's crazy! 491 00:33:32,260 --> 00:33:33,857 Ah! Impossible! 492 00:33:36,608 --> 00:33:39,104 As a massive star contracts, 493 00:33:39,230 --> 00:33:41,627 its gravity becomes so strong 494 00:33:41,752 --> 00:33:44,767 that light can no longer escape. 495 00:33:46,492 --> 00:33:49,879 The region from which nothing can escape 496 00:33:50,004 --> 00:33:52,043 is called a 'black hole' 497 00:33:52,168 --> 00:33:55,789 and its boundary is called the 'event horizon'. 498 00:33:58,325 --> 00:34:00,986 One might say of the event horixon 49/ 499 00:34:01,111 --> 00:34:04,085 what Dante said of the entrance to Hell: 500 00:34:05,669 --> 00:34:09,245 "Abandon all hope ye who eneter here." 501 00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:18,034 I was once asked to actually be an adjudicator 502 00:34:18,691 --> 00:34:22,577 on an essay of which the subject was: 503 00:34:22,702 --> 00:34:25,435 "How to fall into a black hole and live" 504 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,440 Now, the problem I had was 505 00:34:27,565 --> 00:34:30,490 that I wouldn't know how to give out the prize, 506 00:34:30,615 --> 00:34:34,243 because if I said: "Well, that looks like a really good essay", 507 00:34:34,368 --> 00:34:37,513 the only real way of showing that this was right 508 00:34:37,638 --> 00:34:41,172 was to actually follow it, to do the experiment of fall in, 509 00:34:41,298 --> 00:34:44,197 but then having fallen in, 510 00:34:44,322 --> 00:34:46,860 also I would assume taking the person who wrote the essay with you, 511 00:34:46,985 --> 00:34:49,845 the question would be: "How do you tell the rest of the world?" 512 00:34:50,012 --> 00:34:52,654 Do you take the prize in with you 513 00:34:52,780 --> 00:34:55,677 that you'd give to him, and what do they do with it when do when get to the center? 514 00:34:56,544 --> 00:34:58,106 Beleive me 515 00:34:58,798 --> 00:35:01,975 I've benn waiting a long time for someone like you 516 00:35:02,246 --> 00:35:03,734 to record this moment. 517 00:35:03,859 --> 00:35:05,270 Thank you, doctor. 518 00:35:06,694 --> 00:35:08,256 Then, I'm ready. 519 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,484 Ready to embark 520 00:35:11,755 --> 00:35:13,732 on man's greatest journey. 521 00:35:13,911 --> 00:35:15,600 Certainly his riskiest. 522 00:35:16,540 --> 00:35:18,996 The risk is incidental 523 00:35:19,121 --> 00:35:21,202 compared to the possibility to possess 524 00:35:21,473 --> 00:35:23,420 the great truth of the unknown. 525 00:35:23,545 --> 00:35:24,461 There, 526 00:35:25,528 --> 00:35:30,417 long cherished laws of nature simply do not apply. 527 00:35:30,978 --> 00:35:32,713 They vanish. 528 00:35:33,701 --> 00:35:35,925 And life? 529 00:35:37,356 --> 00:35:38,687 Life? 530 00:35:41,604 --> 00:35:43,724 Life forever. 531 00:36:08,387 --> 00:36:10,818 If you were watching an anoustronaut 532 00:36:10,943 --> 00:36:14,119 fool hardly enough to jump into a black hole, 533 00:36:14,245 --> 00:36:18,581 at some time on his watch, say 12 o'clock, 534 00:36:18,995 --> 00:36:21,604 he will cross the event horizon 535 00:36:21,935 --> 00:36:24,408 and enter the black hole. 536 00:36:25,864 --> 00:36:28,419 But no matter how long you waited, 537 00:36:28,544 --> 00:36:32,856 you would never see the astronaut's watch reach 12 o'clock. 538 00:36:35,007 --> 00:36:37,954 Instead, each second on the watch 539 00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:40,171 would appear to take longer and longer 540 00:36:40,296 --> 00:36:45,086 until the last second before midnight would take forever. 541 00:36:46,797 --> 00:36:49,929 Thus, by jumping into a black hole, 542 00:36:50,055 --> 00:36:53,667 one could ensure that one's image lasted forever. 543 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,213 But the picture would fade very rapidly 544 00:36:58,338 --> 00:37:02,375 and grow so dim that no one could see it. 545 00:37:06,284 --> 00:37:08,507 When somebody disappears into the black hole 546 00:37:08,632 --> 00:37:13,442 as seen from the outside, you... it looks like time actually slows down. 547 00:37:13,611 --> 00:37:18,486 and the person becomes... who's moving or at least he thinks he's moving 548 00:37:18,657 --> 00:37:21,421 and talking in his spaceship at a normal rate, 549 00:37:21,546 --> 00:37:24,442 seems to slow down and ends up by being frozen 550 00:37:24,567 --> 00:37:26,415 in a particular position 551 00:37:26,540 --> 00:37:30,376 as seen from somebody watching from the outside, 552 00:37:30,501 --> 00:37:33,540 and as seen from the outside you never see what happens after that. 553 00:37:40,184 --> 00:37:43,508 The astronout wouldn't notice anything special 554 00:37:43,779 --> 00:37:46,398 when his watch reached midnight 555 00:37:46,717 --> 00:37:49,277 and he crossed the event horizon 556 00:37:49,402 --> 00:37:51,516 into the black hole. 557 00:37:53,165 --> 00:37:57,333 Until of course he approached the singularity 558 00:37:57,458 --> 00:37:59,924 and was crushed into spaghetti. 559 00:38:06,501 --> 00:38:09,021 One can fall though this event horizon 560 00:38:09,146 --> 00:38:11,772 without feeling anything, without noticing it. 561 00:38:12,332 --> 00:38:15,947 After about a week of falling, one begins to feel 562 00:38:16,072 --> 00:38:20,504 a pinch, and one extends longer and longer and gets slightly thinner 563 00:38:21,042 --> 00:38:24,202 and of course one begins to get squeezed, 564 00:38:24,725 --> 00:38:27,811 until one gets very long and very thin 565 00:38:27,937 --> 00:38:29,606 and rather nasty. 566 00:38:29,731 --> 00:38:32,832 By the end of two weeks one's fallen right into the center 567 00:38:32,957 --> 00:38:34,558 and one is of course dead. 568 00:38:35,496 --> 00:38:37,954 Before you lose sight of the outer world, 569 00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:40,228 you would see things happening 570 00:38:40,353 --> 00:38:42,178 and you would see them at a greater rate 571 00:38:42,303 --> 00:38:44,192 so that it would look like a firework display. 572 00:38:44,713 --> 00:38:47,658 And the frustration would be that, although you would be able 573 00:38:47,783 --> 00:38:49,584 to see everything that happens in the future, 574 00:38:49,709 --> 00:38:52,078 it would be going so fast from the scientific point of view, 575 00:38:52,203 --> 00:38:53,917 you would have no time to analyze it, 576 00:38:54,042 --> 00:38:56,450 you wouldn't be able to take it in. 577 00:38:56,628 --> 00:38:59,067 And eventually things would be going so fast 578 00:38:59,192 --> 00:39:01,845 and it would be so explosive that you yourself 579 00:39:01,970 --> 00:39:05,419 would be destroyed by the explosion and that would be the end. 580 00:39:05,544 --> 00:39:09,164 But it would be a very exciting way to end one's life. 581 00:39:09,624 --> 00:39:13,173 It would be the way I would choose if I had the choice. 582 00:39:15,869 --> 00:39:18,821 In the long hisroty of the Universe, 583 00:39:19,122 --> 00:39:22,808 many stars must have burned up their nucelar fuel 584 00:39:22,987 --> 00:39:25,342 and collapsed in on themselves. 585 00:39:27,578 --> 00:39:30,371 The number of black holes may be greater 586 00:39:30,496 --> 00:39:32,743 than the number of visibile stars, 587 00:39:32,868 --> 00:39:35,761 which totals about a hundred thousand million 588 00:39:35,886 --> 00:39:38,352 in our galaxy alone. 589 00:39:40,070 --> 00:39:42,181 We also have evidence 590 00:39:42,306 --> 00:39:45,628 that there is a very large black hole 591 00:39:45,801 --> 00:39:48,838 at the centre of our own galaxy. 592 00:39:55,366 --> 00:39:56,839 Friends ask me: 593 00:39:56,964 --> 00:40:00,167 "Well, if a black hole is black, how can you see it?" 594 00:40:00,292 --> 00:40:04,179 And i say: "Have you have you ever been to a ball?" 595 00:40:04,304 --> 00:40:10,333 "Have you ever watched the young man dressed in their evening tuxedos" 596 00:40:10,459 --> 00:40:15,777 "and the girls in their white dresses, whirling around, held in each other's arms?" 597 00:40:15,956 --> 00:40:20,224 "And the lights turn low, and all you can see is the girls." 598 00:40:20,797 --> 00:40:23,813 Well, the girl is the ordinary star 599 00:40:23,938 --> 00:40:26,923 and the boy is the black hole. 600 00:40:27,092 --> 00:40:30,963 You can't see the black hole any more that you can see the boy, 601 00:40:31,088 --> 00:40:33,080 but the girl going around 602 00:40:33,205 --> 00:40:36,937 gives you convincing evidence there must be something there, 603 00:40:37,062 --> 00:40:38,890 holding her in orbit. 604 00:40:41,116 --> 00:40:45,976 One evening, shortly after the birth of my daughter, Lucy, 605 00:40:46,101 --> 00:40:51,111 I started thinking about black holes as I was getting into bed. 606 00:40:53,627 --> 00:40:57,496 My disability made this a rather slow process, 607 00:40:57,621 --> 00:41:00,216 so I had plenty of time. 608 00:41:01,583 --> 00:41:03,998 Suddenly, I realized 609 00:41:04,169 --> 00:41:06,579 that the area of the event horizon 610 00:41:06,704 --> 00:41:09,454 must always increase with time. 611 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,215 The increase in the area of the event horizon 612 00:41:15,486 --> 00:41:18,503 was reminiscent of a quantity called entropy, 613 00:41:18,628 --> 00:41:22,162 which measures the degree of disorder of a system. 614 00:41:23,478 --> 00:41:26,211 It is a matter of common experience 615 00:41:26,336 --> 00:41:29,685 that disorder tends to increase with time 616 00:41:29,810 --> 00:41:32,233 if things are left at themselves. 617 00:41:36,215 --> 00:41:39,959 Jacob Bekenstein came in at the office one day. 618 00:41:40,844 --> 00:41:44,653 "Jakob," I said, "it always troubles me:" 619 00:41:44,778 --> 00:41:48,328 "when I put a hot tea cup next to a cold tea cup, I've increased," 620 00:41:48,453 --> 00:41:51,944 "by letting heat flow from one to the other," 621 00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:54,482 "the amount of disorder in the Universe." 622 00:41:54,607 --> 00:41:57,789 "But Jakob, if a black hole swirls by," 623 00:41:57,915 --> 00:42:01,121 "and I drop both tea cups into this," 624 00:42:01,512 --> 00:42:05,061 "I can seal the evidence of my crime, have I not?" 625 00:42:07,635 --> 00:42:10,501 Bekenstein's a man of great integrity 626 00:42:10,626 --> 00:42:13,783 and he looked troubled, and he came back to me later 627 00:42:13,908 --> 00:42:18,591 and he said: "No, you have not concealed the evidence of your crime." 628 00:42:19,062 --> 00:42:22,655 "The black hole records what's happened to you." 629 00:42:23,637 --> 00:42:26,407 Stephen Hawking read the paper 630 00:42:26,691 --> 00:42:29,939 in which Bekenstein announced his result 631 00:42:30,258 --> 00:42:32,155 and thought it was preposterous 632 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,298 and he decided to prove that he was wrong. 633 00:42:39,019 --> 00:42:42,124 My dicoveries led Jacob Bekenstein 634 00:42:42,250 --> 00:42:45,265 to suggest that the area of the event horizon 635 00:42:45,435 --> 00:42:49,302 actually was the entropy of the black hole. 636 00:42:50,678 --> 00:42:55,525 But there was one fatal flaw in Bekenstein's idea: 637 00:42:56,766 --> 00:42:59,233 if black holes have an entropy, 638 00:42:59,358 --> 00:43:01,902 they ought to have a temperature. 639 00:43:04,262 --> 00:43:08,948 And if they have a temperature, they ought to give off radiation. 640 00:43:11,074 --> 00:43:13,652 But how could they give off radiation 641 00:43:13,777 --> 00:43:16,948 if nothing can escape from a black hole? 642 00:43:20,949 --> 00:43:25,310 As it turned out, Bekenstein was basically correct, 643 00:43:25,436 --> 00:43:28,460 thought in a manner far more surprising 644 00:43:28,585 --> 00:43:32,452 than he, or anyone else, had expected. 645 00:43:36,994 --> 00:43:39,638 As he gradually lost the use of his hands, 646 00:43:39,763 --> 00:43:43,666 he had to start developing... 647 00:43:43,791 --> 00:43:47,242 carefully chosing research projects 648 00:43:47,412 --> 00:43:50,737 that could be tackled and solved 649 00:43:50,862 --> 00:43:55,086 through geometrical arguments that he could do pictorially in his head. 650 00:43:55,211 --> 00:43:57,527 and he developed a very powerful set of tools 651 00:43:57,652 --> 00:43:59,542 that noboby else really had 652 00:44:00,203 --> 00:44:03,304 so in some sense, when you lose one set of tools 653 00:44:03,429 --> 00:44:05,054 you may develop other tools, 654 00:44:05,180 --> 00:44:09,129 but to get new tools on a minimal to different kind of problems in your tools 655 00:44:09,254 --> 00:44:12,263 and if you're the only master in the world of this new tools, 656 00:44:12,388 --> 00:44:14,023 that means certain kinds of problems 657 00:44:14,148 --> 00:44:16,078 you can solve and nobody else can. 658 00:44:17,819 --> 00:44:23,292 My work up to 1973 was in General Relativity 659 00:44:23,417 --> 00:44:27,054 and was summurized in a book which I wrote with George Ellis 660 00:44:27,179 --> 00:44:30,867 called "The large scale structure of space-time". 661 00:44:33,113 --> 00:44:37,650 Even then, it was difficult for me to write things down. 662 00:44:39,302 --> 00:44:42,834 So I tended to think in pictures and diagrams Aussi, étais-je enclin à penser en images et en diagrammes 663 00:44:42,959 --> 00:44:45,295 that I could visualize in my head. 664 00:45:20,282 --> 00:45:22,758 I remember visiting Stephen and Jane 665 00:45:22,884 --> 00:45:24,834 at their home in Cambrigde. 666 00:45:25,643 --> 00:45:28,002 After supper in the evening 667 00:45:28,127 --> 00:45:31,263 when it was time for Stephen to go to bed 668 00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:33,988 Jane instisted and Stephen acquiesced, 669 00:45:34,113 --> 00:45:37,341 I guess this was standard, that Stephen make his way up. 670 00:45:37,467 --> 00:45:40,808 I forgot whether there's one flight of stairs or two flight of stairs, alone 671 00:45:40,981 --> 00:45:43,555 and this was appearen that he can no longer walk. 672 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:48,822 the way he got up the stairs was he grabbed hold of the pillars that support the banister 673 00:45:48,948 --> 00:45:53,862 and pulled him up with the strenght of his own, pulled himself up the stairs by the strenght of his own arms, 674 00:45:54,133 --> 00:45:58,747 dragging himself up from the ground floor up to the second storey 675 00:45:58,872 --> 00:46:01,539 in a long, arduous effort. 676 00:46:03,668 --> 00:46:09,009 Jane explained that this was an important part of his physical therapy 677 00:46:09,134 --> 00:46:13,345 to maintain his coordination 678 00:46:13,470 --> 00:46:16,050 and strenght as long as possible. 679 00:46:16,881 --> 00:46:19,245 at first, it was sort of hard renting[?] to watch 680 00:46:19,370 --> 00:46:22,355 what appeared to be the agony of pulling up the starirs 681 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,060 until I understood it was just part of life 682 00:46:26,331 --> 00:46:29,236 pulling himself up the stairs like that. 683 00:46:33,119 --> 00:46:37,734 General Relativity is what is called a classical theory. 684 00:46:39,573 --> 00:46:40,657 It predicts 685 00:46:40,929 --> 00:46:44,288 a single definite path for each particle. 686 00:46:45,972 --> 00:46:48,563 But according to quantum mechanics, 687 00:46:48,688 --> 00:46:52,255 there is an element of chance or uncertainty. 688 00:46:54,804 --> 00:47:00,731 A particle does not have just a single path through space and time. 689 00:47:02,372 --> 00:47:06,061 Instead, there is an uncertainty principle 690 00:47:06,231 --> 00:47:11,390 according to which both the exact position and velocity of the particle 691 00:47:11,515 --> 00:47:13,689 can never be known. 692 00:47:20,478 --> 00:47:22,371 I began investigating 693 00:47:22,496 --> 00:47:25,500 the effect of quantum mechanics might have 694 00:47:25,625 --> 00:47:28,425 on particles near a black hole. 695 00:47:28,978 --> 00:47:30,164 I found 696 00:47:30,435 --> 00:47:33,791 that particles could escapoe from a black hole, 697 00:47:34,195 --> 00:47:37,850 that black holes are not completely black. 698 00:47:39,092 --> 00:47:41,823 At first, I didn't believe it. 699 00:47:42,815 --> 00:47:48,822 But when I ridid the calculations, I couldn't get the effect to go away. 700 00:47:50,205 --> 00:47:54,026 I met martin Reese and he was shaking with excitement. 701 00:47:54,151 --> 00:47:56,479 And he said: "Have you heard, have you heard!" 702 00:47:56,605 --> 00:48:00,193 "What Stephen has discovered? Everything is different! everything is changed!" 703 00:48:01,246 --> 00:48:03,872 I was still unsure of my discovery 704 00:48:03,997 --> 00:48:07,200 so I only told a few colleagues. 705 00:48:07,905 --> 00:48:10,727 But word soon spread. 706 00:48:10,948 --> 00:48:14,457 Roger Penrose phoned up on my birthday. 707 00:48:15,837 --> 00:48:19,333 He was very excited and went on so long 708 00:48:19,458 --> 00:48:22,715 that my birthday dinner got quite cold. 709 00:48:24,433 --> 00:48:26,337 It was a great pity 710 00:48:26,462 --> 00:48:30,153 because it was goose, which I'm very fond of. 711 00:48:31,411 --> 00:48:35,019 To me it's a miracle, because it's a complicated and messy calculation. 712 00:48:35,290 --> 00:48:38,017 we can now do these things very much better 713 00:48:38,332 --> 00:48:40,532 and it's more transparent what happens. 714 00:48:40,657 --> 00:48:43,736 But out of this messy calculation, he showed that black holes 715 00:48:44,007 --> 00:48:46,204 aren't black. With this quanto-mechanical effect 716 00:48:46,329 --> 00:48:48,452 which was a residual radiation. 717 00:48:48,623 --> 00:48:50,576 Stephen came to a meeting 718 00:48:50,847 --> 00:48:52,312 and people were flabbergasted. 719 00:48:52,437 --> 00:48:55,038 I remember someone getting up and saying: "You must be wrong Stephen." 720 00:48:55,163 --> 00:48:56,874 "I don't believe a word of it!" 721 00:48:57,145 --> 00:48:59,946 I once said that I was unhappy 722 00:49:00,071 --> 00:49:04,089 with the explanation given in terms of negative energy particles being created. 723 00:49:04,430 --> 00:49:07,152 But I feel this is part of the controversy of science. 724 00:49:07,277 --> 00:49:08,927 You must have the give and take. 725 00:49:09,052 --> 00:49:11,145 And I'm delighted to be able to be part of that. 726 00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:13,156 I mean, it's what makes it fun. 727 00:49:13,441 --> 00:49:16,315 You know, if you all sat down and said: "Oh, lovely!" 728 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,819 when you do have niggling questions in your mind 729 00:49:18,944 --> 00:49:21,409 that's not doing a good service to science. 730 00:49:21,534 --> 00:49:24,389 But I was not antagonistic to it in any way, 731 00:49:24,514 --> 00:49:27,570 except for that one time when I questioned. 732 00:49:29,358 --> 00:49:31,140 I finally conviced myself 733 00:49:31,265 --> 00:49:33,542 that black holes radiated 734 00:49:33,667 --> 00:49:37,296 when I found a mechanism through whcih this could happen. 735 00:49:39,464 --> 00:49:41,753 According to quantum mechanics, 736 00:49:41,925 --> 00:49:44,877 space is filled with virtual particles 737 00:49:45,002 --> 00:49:46,687 and anti-particles 738 00:49:46,812 --> 00:49:49,846 that are constantly materializing in pairs, 739 00:49:50,141 --> 00:49:53,226 separating, coming together again 740 00:49:53,395 --> 00:49:55,720 and annihilating each other. 741 00:49:58,766 --> 00:50:01,338 In the presence of a black hole, 742 00:50:01,463 --> 00:50:04,379 one member of a pair of virtual particles 743 00:50:04,504 --> 00:50:06,366 may fall into the hole, 744 00:50:06,491 --> 00:50:11,209 leaving the other member without a partner whith which to annihilate. 745 00:50:12,975 --> 00:50:16,835 The forsaken particle appears to be radiation 746 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,099 emitted bu the black hole. 747 00:50:23,308 --> 00:50:27,337 And so, black holes are not eternal. 748 00:50:29,751 --> 00:50:33,259 They evaporate away at an increasing rate 749 00:50:33,384 --> 00:50:37,453 until they vanish in a gigantic explosion. 750 00:50:40,448 --> 00:50:44,813 Quantum mechanics has allowed particles and radiation 751 00:50:44,938 --> 00:50:47,475 to escape from the ultimate prison: 752 00:50:47,972 --> 00:50:49,587 a black hole. 753 00:50:52,568 --> 00:50:55,856 Einstein never accepted quantum mechanics 754 00:50:55,981 --> 00:50:59,326 because of its element of chance and uncertainty. 755 00:51:00,868 --> 00:51:04,543 He said: "God does not play dice". 756 00:51:05,926 --> 00:51:09,792 It seems that Einstein was doubly wrong. 757 00:51:12,369 --> 00:51:15,066 The quantum effects of black holes 758 00:51:15,191 --> 00:51:18,772 suggests that not only does God play dice, 759 00:51:18,897 --> 00:51:23,144 he sometimes throw them where they cannot be seen. 760 00:51:25,039 --> 00:51:26,518 He says himself that 761 00:51:27,051 --> 00:51:32,917 he wouldn't have got where he is if he hadn't been ill. 762 00:51:33,042 --> 00:51:37,454 And I think that's quite possible, because it's like Johnson said, you know: 763 00:51:37,621 --> 00:51:41,833 "Knowledge to be hanged in the morning concentrates the mind wonderfully". 764 00:51:42,001 --> 00:51:44,788 And he has concentrated on this in a way 765 00:51:44,913 --> 00:51:46,791 that I don't think he would have done 766 00:51:46,916 --> 00:51:49,277 because he always took a great interest in a lot of things in life 767 00:51:49,402 --> 00:51:52,544 and I don't know if he would have applied himself in quite the same way 768 00:51:52,669 --> 00:51:55,069 if he'd been able to get around as is. 769 00:51:55,194 --> 00:51:56,763 So in a way... 770 00:51:57,215 --> 00:52:00,976 No, I can't think anyone's lucky of having an illness like that, even still, 771 00:52:01,144 --> 00:52:05,552 but it's bad less luck for him that it would be for some people, if you see what I mean, 772 00:52:05,677 --> 00:52:08,770 because he can so much live in his head. 773 00:52:09,374 --> 00:52:12,448 When I lived with the Hawking family I would usually get up around 774 00:52:12,824 --> 00:52:14,612 7h15 or 7h30, and 775 00:52:14,737 --> 00:52:18,365 take a shower and then read my bible some in the morning and pray. 776 00:52:18,491 --> 00:52:20,730 And then I would go down at 8h15 to get Stephen up. 777 00:52:20,855 --> 00:52:25,203 And then at breakfast I would often tell him what I'd been reading in the bible 778 00:52:25,328 --> 00:52:29,039 hoping that, you know, maybe this would eventually have some influence. 779 00:52:29,763 --> 00:52:32,751 So then we would get into work and usually we'd go and see 780 00:52:33,106 --> 00:52:37,364 if there were any scientific papers that people sent out and. 781 00:52:38,002 --> 00:52:40,983 I did discover that despite Hawking's great brains 782 00:52:41,108 --> 00:52:44,862 he reads quite slowly. I mean, I can read about twice as fast as him. 783 00:52:45,199 --> 00:52:48,410 But of course, the point is he would have to read to memory 784 00:52:48,536 --> 00:52:52,312 because it would be very difficult for him to go back and access the thing. 785 00:52:52,583 --> 00:52:55,534 Wherheas I can skim the paper rather quickly 786 00:52:55,659 --> 00:52:58,353 and see if there was anything interesting in it and if I wanted to work on it 787 00:52:58,479 --> 00:53:00,910 I can pick the thing up and look at it. 788 00:53:03,036 --> 00:53:04,971 Black hole radiation 789 00:53:05,096 --> 00:53:08,001 has shown us that gravitational collapse 790 00:53:08,127 --> 00:53:11,051 is not as final as we once thought. 791 00:53:12,904 --> 00:53:16,205 If an astronaut falls into a black hole, 792 00:53:16,330 --> 00:53:19,673 he will be returned to the rest of the Universe 793 00:53:19,846 --> 00:53:22,171 in the form of radiation. 794 00:53:23,716 --> 00:53:25,596 Thus, in a sense, 795 00:53:25,721 --> 00:53:28,595 the astronaut will be recycled. 796 00:53:30,557 --> 00:53:34,564 However, it would be a poor sort of immortality 797 00:53:34,689 --> 00:53:39,003 because any personal concept of time would come to an end 798 00:53:39,128 --> 00:53:43,487 as he is torn apart inside a black hole. 799 00:53:46,535 --> 00:53:51,397 All that would survive would be his mass, or energy. 800 00:53:57,100 --> 00:53:59,883 One year the Hawkings took me along 801 00:54:00,008 --> 00:54:04,049 when we went to a cottage in Wales near the river Wye. 802 00:54:04,306 --> 00:54:06,813 And this cottage was up a hill 803 00:54:06,938 --> 00:54:09,508 and there was a bit of a 804 00:54:10,029 --> 00:54:13,507 paved, well, sidewalk that went up to the cottage 805 00:54:13,632 --> 00:54:15,737 which I had not been up. 806 00:54:15,862 --> 00:54:19,750 And of course I wanted to do it in the least number of trips that I could imagine, 807 00:54:19,875 --> 00:54:22,482 so we put Stephen's batteries under his chair, I mean 808 00:54:22,608 --> 00:54:25,619 his wheelchair has space for batteries, and put extra batteries under there, which we... 809 00:54:25,744 --> 00:54:28,221 Stephen didn't realize he had... that I put under there, 810 00:54:28,347 --> 00:54:30,658 he didn't realize his chair was as heavily laden as possible. 811 00:54:31,263 --> 00:54:34,576 So Stephen was quite a bit ahead of me and then he was turning the corner to go on to... 812 00:54:34,701 --> 00:54:37,673 around to his house, but that was on a slope and... 813 00:54:37,798 --> 00:54:39,870 So I looked up and I noticed 814 00:54:39,995 --> 00:54:42,071 Stephen's wheelchair was slowly tipping backward. 815 00:54:42,197 --> 00:54:45,503 And of course that was about 10 meters away. 816 00:54:46,405 --> 00:54:48,197 I tried to roll up there 817 00:54:48,322 --> 00:54:50,453 but of course I wasn't able to get there nearly rapidly enough 818 00:54:50,578 --> 00:54:53,333 before he've toppled over backward into the bushes. 819 00:54:53,459 --> 00:54:56,476 And this was a bit of a shocking sight, 820 00:54:56,601 --> 00:55:01,605 to see this master of gravity getting overcome by the weak gravitational force of Earth! 821 00:55:03,001 --> 00:55:06,781 One of the worst things for me would be having people there all the time, 822 00:55:06,906 --> 00:55:10,063 never alone I reckon, really. 823 00:55:10,620 --> 00:55:13,051 And yet he finds thigs funny 824 00:55:13,176 --> 00:55:16,532 and he enjoys life and he goes dashing about all over the place. 825 00:55:16,831 --> 00:55:18,605 And I think this is tremendous, 826 00:55:18,730 --> 00:55:20,854 that this is the sort of courage I haven't got, 827 00:55:20,979 --> 00:55:22,925 that his father hadn't got. 828 00:55:23,050 --> 00:55:24,995 And we cannot but admire it, 829 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,214 but I wonder how on earth he got it, really! 830 00:55:28,736 --> 00:55:31,670 There must have been 50 people there 831 00:55:31,795 --> 00:55:34,561 and I was standing off in a corner, sort of, 832 00:55:34,686 --> 00:55:38,789 watching quietly for a few minutes, relaxing. 833 00:55:38,914 --> 00:55:43,645 And Stephen was not far from me. Jane walked over to Stephen 834 00:55:43,770 --> 00:55:46,693 and looked at him and he was sitting with his head on his lap, 835 00:55:46,818 --> 00:55:49,302 like only Stephen can put his head in his lap, 836 00:55:49,427 --> 00:55:53,938 and Jane said to Stephen: "You look miserable Stephen!" 837 00:55:54,064 --> 00:55:55,268 Sit up straight!" 838 00:55:55,393 --> 00:55:57,375 "Some of your guests don't understand" 839 00:55:57,500 --> 00:56:00,439 "that you're sitting there thinking about physics and having a wonderful time," 840 00:56:00,564 --> 00:56:03,749 "it looks like you're in pain. Sit up straight and go talk to your guests." 841 00:56:05,959 --> 00:56:12,013 In 1979, I was elected Lucasian Professor of Mathematics. 842 00:56:14,046 --> 00:56:18,180 This is the same chair once held by Isaac Newton. 843 00:56:20,559 --> 00:56:22,227 They a have a big book 844 00:56:22,352 --> 00:56:26,771 which every university teaching officer is supposed to sign. 845 00:56:28,469 --> 00:56:32,284 After I had been Lucasian Professor for about a year 846 00:56:32,409 --> 00:56:35,708 they realized I had never signed. 847 00:56:36,984 --> 00:56:39,782 So they brought the book to my office 848 00:56:39,907 --> 00:56:42,734 and I signed it with some difficulty. 849 00:56:44,365 --> 00:56:48,234 That was the last time I signed my name. 850 00:56:59,493 --> 00:57:03,269 My interest in the origin and fate of the Universe 851 00:57:03,394 --> 00:57:06,394 was reawakened when I attended a conference 852 00:57:06,519 --> 00:57:09,150 on cosmology in the Vatican. 853 00:57:11,124 --> 00:57:15,401 Afterwards, we were granted an audience with the pope. 854 00:57:16,536 --> 00:57:21,826 He told us that it was all right to study the evolution of the Universe 855 00:57:21,999 --> 00:57:23,583 after the Big Bang, 856 00:57:24,807 --> 00:57:28,179 but we should not inquire into the Big Bang itself, 857 00:57:28,494 --> 00:57:31,406 because that was the moment of creation, 858 00:57:31,531 --> 00:57:34,263 and therefore, the work of God. 859 00:57:36,526 --> 00:57:39,537 I was glad that he did not know 860 00:57:39,663 --> 00:57:43,013 the subject of the talk I had just given: 861 00:57:44,772 --> 00:57:48,711 the possibility that the Universe had no beginning, 862 00:57:48,836 --> 00:57:51,347 no moment of creation. 863 00:57:56,964 --> 00:57:59,193 There were theories in the early 70s, in fact the first type 864 00:57:59,318 --> 00:58:00,621 of creation theories, 865 00:58:00,746 --> 00:58:02,767 where the people concerned started off with 866 00:58:02,893 --> 00:58:06,703 a fixed external space and time which for eternity was empty. 867 00:58:06,828 --> 00:58:09,956 Then suddenly, for some unknown reason, Universe nucleates 868 00:58:10,227 --> 00:58:12,925 in a point and then Bang! It blows apart. 869 00:58:13,050 --> 00:58:16,796 But the trouble is that when the space and time appear in the classical theory 870 00:58:17,067 --> 00:58:20,280 the actual point itself is a singualr point in the mathematics. 871 00:58:20,405 --> 00:58:22,464 Mathematics breaks down, 872 00:58:22,589 --> 00:58:25,304 and so you cannot in fact use that to give you a creation theory. 873 00:58:27,110 --> 00:58:29,204 If one goes back in time, 874 00:58:29,329 --> 00:58:32,770 one comes to the Big Bang singularity, 875 00:58:32,944 --> 00:58:36,051 where then laws of Physics break down. 876 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,345 But there's another direction of time 877 00:58:40,470 --> 00:58:42,284 that one can go in, 878 00:58:42,453 --> 00:58:44,910 which avoids the singularity. 879 00:58:46,667 --> 00:58:50,944 This is called the imaginary direction of time. 880 00:58:52,517 --> 00:58:54,522 In imaginary time, 881 00:58:54,647 --> 00:58:57,624 there need not be any sigularities 882 00:58:57,801 --> 00:59:01,633 which form a beginning or end to time. 883 00:59:05,225 --> 00:59:08,276 When you come to imaginary time, you have this rather peculiar possibility 884 00:59:08,401 --> 00:59:10,434 of having a 'now', as it were, 885 00:59:10,559 --> 00:59:15,741 not necessarily having a sort of a chain of past moments. 886 00:59:15,866 --> 00:59:19,870 If we start to lay out the moments that run in backwards in time, as it were, 887 00:59:19,995 --> 00:59:22,777 then for a long time things work perfectly normally. 888 00:59:23,274 --> 00:59:25,803 But then as you begin to get further and furhter back towards 889 00:59:25,928 --> 00:59:29,042 what would be the origin point in a conventional real time picture 890 00:59:29,167 --> 00:59:32,124 you'd find that the nature of time changes, 891 00:59:32,250 --> 00:59:35,873 that the imaginary component becomes more and more prominent, 892 00:59:36,144 --> 00:59:39,373 and in the end, what ought be a singular point in the classical theory 893 00:59:39,498 --> 00:59:40,677 just gets smoothed away s'estompe 894 00:59:40,802 --> 00:59:43,421 and you have this beautiful picture, this bowls, 895 00:59:43,546 --> 00:59:45,533 where the creation of the Universe 896 00:59:45,659 --> 00:59:47,760 is pictured, as where we are now 897 00:59:48,031 --> 00:59:51,553 in a smooth sort of bowl past where there's no initial point, just a sort of smooth shape. 898 00:59:59,308 --> 01:00:02,573 So long as the Universe had a beginning, 899 01:00:02,698 --> 01:00:05,567 we could suppose it had a Creator. 900 01:00:07,410 --> 01:00:11,172 But if the Universe is completely self-contained, 901 01:00:11,484 --> 01:00:13,996 having no boudary or edge, 902 01:00:15,324 --> 01:00:18,749 it would neither be created nor destroyed, 903 01:00:19,868 --> 01:00:22,024 it would simply be. 904 01:00:24,562 --> 01:00:27,984 What place then, for a Creator? 905 01:00:32,282 --> 01:00:34,359 What we can really say is that the Universe is, 906 01:00:34,484 --> 01:00:36,557 bacuse it is a self-consistent mathematical structure. 907 01:00:36,682 --> 01:00:39,869 There's no past because, unlike the creation point scenario 908 01:00:39,994 --> 01:00:41,803 there's nothing for it to 909 01:00:41,928 --> 01:00:45,066 So to say it's created from nothing is actually a bit of a misnomer, 910 01:00:45,191 --> 01:00:48,075 it's a misleading use of the word 'nothing'. 911 01:00:48,243 --> 01:00:51,127 It's not just that there was empty space in which the Universe appeared, 912 01:00:51,252 --> 01:00:53,344 which you might call 'nothing', there was really nothing at all 913 01:00:53,470 --> 01:00:55,375 because there wasn't even a creation event, you see. 914 01:00:55,500 --> 01:00:59,650 The use of past tense in a verb becomes inappropriate in these theories. 915 01:00:59,775 --> 01:01:01,653 Unfortunately, tenses were set up 916 01:01:01,778 --> 01:01:03,578 when people believed in real time, of course, 917 01:01:03,704 --> 01:01:07,129 and we don't yet have a linguistic form to describe tenses in imaginary time. 918 01:01:07,927 --> 01:01:11,874 The word 'time' was not handed down from Heaven, 919 01:01:11,999 --> 01:01:14,022 as a gift from On High. 920 01:01:14,147 --> 01:01:19,201 The idea of 'time' is a word inventend my men, 921 01:01:19,592 --> 01:01:23,499 and if it has puzzlements connected with it, whose fault is it? 922 01:01:23,624 --> 01:01:24,980 It's our fault! 923 01:01:28,215 --> 01:01:32,573 Where does the difference between the past and the future come from? 924 01:01:35,289 --> 01:01:37,175 The laws of science 925 01:01:37,300 --> 01:01:40,733 do not distinguish between the past and the future. 926 01:01:42,188 --> 01:01:46,868 Yet, there is a big difference between the past and future 927 01:01:46,993 --> 01:01:48,729 in ordinary life. 928 01:01:55,082 --> 01:01:58,524 You may see a cup of tea fall off a table 929 01:01:58,649 --> 01:02:01,585 and break into peaces on the floor, 930 01:02:01,936 --> 01:02:05,841 but you will never see a cup gather together 931 01:02:05,966 --> 01:02:08,326 and jump back on the table. 932 01:02:11,164 --> 01:02:14,252 The increase of disorder or entropy 933 01:02:14,377 --> 01:02:17,861 is what distiguishes the past from the future, 934 01:02:18,039 --> 01:02:20,660 giving the direction to time. 935 01:02:26,962 --> 01:02:28,933 He fell ill in Switzerland. 936 01:02:29,287 --> 01:02:32,546 When he came back, he was on a ventilator. 937 01:02:32,817 --> 01:02:35,837 Because he was on a ventilator, you've got a tube down you throat, 938 01:02:35,962 --> 01:02:38,218 and therefore you can't speak, just for that reason. 939 01:02:38,906 --> 01:02:41,499 For that period, which might have been a couple of months, 940 01:02:41,624 --> 01:02:46,356 I spent probably one in two nights, one in three nights, at the hospital, 941 01:02:46,525 --> 01:02:49,392 because when he was in hospital 942 01:02:49,796 --> 01:02:52,364 he couldn't communicate with the nurses. 943 01:02:52,489 --> 01:02:54,778 And it's not just like being seriously ill, 944 01:02:54,903 --> 01:02:56,783 but you're in a position where the nurses 945 01:02:56,908 --> 01:02:58,874 couldn't understand what Stephen wanted. 946 01:02:58,999 --> 01:03:01,532 If Stephen was unconfortable, they couldn't tell why. 947 01:03:04,435 --> 01:03:06,511 Before I caught pneumonia, 948 01:03:06,636 --> 01:03:09,492 my speech had been getting more slurred 949 01:03:09,617 --> 01:03:13,162 so that only a few people who knew me well 950 01:03:13,287 --> 01:03:15,558 could understand me. 951 01:03:16,694 --> 01:03:19,453 But at least I could communicate. 952 01:03:21,548 --> 01:03:26,021 I wrote scientific papers by dictating to a secretary 953 01:03:26,189 --> 01:03:29,612 and I gave seminars through an interpreter. 954 01:03:30,198 --> 01:03:33,267 And then, a tracheotomy operation 955 01:03:33,392 --> 01:03:36,605 removed my ability to speak altogether. 956 01:03:40,872 --> 01:03:43,862 After a long time, well it seemed like along time, 957 01:03:43,987 --> 01:03:46,652 somebody came up with this brilliant gadget. 958 01:03:46,777 --> 01:03:49,306 They didn't have it in Cambridge hosptal, 959 01:03:49,431 --> 01:03:51,580 they got it from somewhere in London. 960 01:03:51,755 --> 01:03:55,669 This was high technology: how can you communicate with a person with no voice? 961 01:03:55,842 --> 01:03:59,495 It's plastic piece of Perspex, about so big, 962 01:03:59,620 --> 01:04:04,268 and you've got the letters of the alphabet arranged like that and a hole in the middle. 963 01:04:04,394 --> 01:04:07,722 You hold it up between you and the other person 964 01:04:07,993 --> 01:04:10,676 and they look at a letter, and you can see of course which letter they're looking at, 965 01:04:10,801 --> 01:04:13,346 most of the time, sometimes you can't quite be sure, 966 01:04:13,471 --> 01:04:16,487 and so you get the patient to spell out what they wanted, you know, 967 01:04:16,654 --> 01:04:19,523 so each letter you have to look: speak out the A, 968 01:04:19,648 --> 01:04:22,945 and you say: "A?" You get it right. It's like a guessing game. 969 01:04:45,391 --> 01:04:49,042 Stephen wasn't going to accept that he wasn't going to speak again 970 01:04:49,469 --> 01:04:53,126 and he thought that he would be giving in by trying to find 971 01:04:53,251 --> 01:04:55,852 a method of communicating without speech. 972 01:04:56,676 --> 01:04:59,649 And I remember I went to him one evening, 973 01:05:00,181 --> 01:05:02,827 and this was the first time that he asked 974 01:05:02,952 --> 01:05:05,744 to be gotten out of bed to use a computer. 975 01:05:05,869 --> 01:05:09,352 Sometimes, they were sitting him up so that he wasn't lying in the bed all the time, 976 01:05:09,477 --> 01:05:10,930 as you do with a patient, 977 01:05:11,056 --> 01:05:15,497 but this time, when I turned up, he asked the nurse could he be gotten out of bed 978 01:05:15,771 --> 01:05:19,249 so he could use the computer, and he did. 979 01:05:19,374 --> 01:05:22,636 I remember the first thing he typed in there, after saying 'hello', 980 01:05:22,761 --> 01:05:25,275 -Stephen's always being very polite about things like that- 981 01:05:25,807 --> 01:05:29,593 was: "Will you help me finish my book?" 982 01:05:35,265 --> 01:05:39,603 A computer expert in California heard of my plight 983 01:05:39,861 --> 01:05:44,288 and sent me a computer program called Equalizer. 984 01:05:46,471 --> 01:05:49,199 This allowed me to select words 985 01:05:49,324 --> 01:05:52,092 from a series of menus on a screen 986 01:05:52,370 --> 01:05:55,333 by pressing a switch in my hand. 987 01:05:59,161 --> 01:06:03,479 These words could then be sent to a speech synthesizer 988 01:06:03,604 --> 01:06:05,892 attached to my wheelchair. 989 01:06:08,285 --> 01:06:10,166 Much to my surprise, 990 01:06:10,292 --> 01:06:13,112 I found I was able to communicate 991 01:06:13,237 --> 01:06:15,224 much better than before. 992 01:06:18,954 --> 01:06:21,813 When eventually he went home from hospital, 993 01:06:21,938 --> 01:06:24,740 and he was told he needed 24h nursing, 994 01:06:24,865 --> 01:06:27,429 and everyone was saying: "Well, how is he gonna go in and do work," 995 01:06:27,554 --> 01:06:30,815 "is he going to trail around with a series of nurses after him working in the office?" 996 01:06:30,940 --> 01:06:32,561 And of course he did! 997 01:06:32,686 --> 01:06:36,462 I mean, they talked originally of him working at home, 998 01:06:36,907 --> 01:06:39,160 which he wasn't happy with, 999 01:06:40,903 --> 01:06:44,328 so after a period of recuperation home 1000 01:06:44,453 --> 01:06:46,822 he just decided to go back into the office, 1001 01:06:47,093 --> 01:06:49,013 and he made the trip Il faisait donc le trajet 1002 01:06:49,138 --> 01:06:53,013 from his house to the office which is, I don't know, half a mile, in his wheelchair, 1003 01:06:53,139 --> 01:06:55,071 And the nurses were walking along with him. 1004 01:06:55,196 --> 01:06:57,529 And this is at the time when he was still driving around 1005 01:06:57,654 --> 01:06:59,843 with a bag and a nasal drip[?]. 1006 01:06:59,968 --> 01:07:04,228 Going into the department, working, going back home. 1007 01:07:07,877 --> 01:07:09,608 I began to wonder 1008 01:07:09,733 --> 01:07:13,317 what would happen when the Universe stopped expanding 1009 01:07:13,614 --> 01:07:15,886 and began to contract. 1010 01:07:17,430 --> 01:07:22,415 Would we see broken cups gather themselves together off the floor 1011 01:07:22,540 --> 01:07:25,362 and jump back on to the table? 1012 01:07:27,383 --> 01:07:31,111 Would we be able to remember tomorrow's prices 1013 01:07:31,236 --> 01:07:34,110 and make a fortune off the stock market? 1014 01:07:36,596 --> 01:07:41,689 It seemed to me the Universe had to return to a smooth and ordered state 1015 01:07:41,814 --> 01:07:43,943 when it recollapsed. 1016 01:07:46,623 --> 01:07:50,036 If this were so, time would go backwards 1017 01:07:50,161 --> 01:07:52,900 when the Universe began to collapse. 1018 01:07:55,150 --> 01:07:59,232 People in the contracting phase would live their lives backwards, 1019 01:07:59,357 --> 01:08:01,982 they would die before they were born 1020 01:08:02,107 --> 01:08:05,706 and get younger as the Universe got small again. 1021 01:08:06,833 --> 01:08:10,614 Eventually, they would return to the womb. 1022 01:08:14,059 --> 01:08:16,349 He gave me my first problem to do. 1023 01:08:17,095 --> 01:08:20,842 He asked me to look at this mathematical problem 1024 01:08:20,967 --> 01:08:22,799 and ususally, when he gives a problem, 1025 01:08:22,924 --> 01:08:25,256 he has a good idea of what the answer should be. 1026 01:08:25,381 --> 01:08:27,116 And I went to look at it 1027 01:08:27,486 --> 01:08:30,600 and it took me a few months to understand what was it about 1028 01:08:30,726 --> 01:08:33,212 and I came back and I said: "Stephen I get this answer." 1029 01:08:33,337 --> 01:08:37,225 And he said to me: "No, that is not what I expected." 1030 01:08:37,350 --> 01:08:39,046 I said: "Stephen that's what I get." 1031 01:08:39,171 --> 01:08:41,330 And so I went to the blackboard, explained to him what it was. 1032 01:08:41,455 --> 01:08:44,001 He said: "Did you think about that particular case?" 1033 01:08:44,126 --> 01:08:45,323 I said: "Oh no I didn't!" 1034 01:08:46,010 --> 01:08:47,412 So I went back 1035 01:08:47,537 --> 01:08:50,270 I calculated what he talked to me about, 1036 01:08:50,395 --> 01:08:51,874 came back a few weeks after and I said: 1037 01:08:52,145 --> 01:08:57,077 "Stephen, I don't get this thing. I still get the same answer I had originally." 1038 01:08:57,860 --> 01:09:01,558 So he said to me: "No no no, this is not right," 1039 01:09:01,683 --> 01:09:03,678 "did you think about that?" "Oh no!" 1040 01:09:03,803 --> 01:09:05,471 "I'd forgotten about that particular case." 1041 01:09:05,742 --> 01:09:07,751 So I went back to the drawing board, 1042 01:09:07,876 --> 01:09:11,167 started calculating again. And again, get the same answer! 1043 01:09:11,292 --> 01:09:15,189 I went back to see Stephen, and this dragged on for about 2 or 3 months. 1044 01:09:16,798 --> 01:09:19,068 Finally he said to me: "Maybe," 1045 01:09:19,339 --> 01:09:21,634 "one of you approximations isn't valid." 1046 01:09:23,319 --> 01:09:25,894 So me and a collegue decided to do this thing with computers, 1047 01:09:26,869 --> 01:09:29,625 and than this takes a lot of time to write the programs 1048 01:09:29,750 --> 01:09:31,955 and to be sure the program was correct... 1049 01:09:32,226 --> 01:09:35,294 We get the answer and it was still the way that I said before and 1050 01:09:35,419 --> 01:09:37,270 not the way that Stephen has said, 1051 01:09:37,395 --> 01:09:40,005 so we went to see Stephen and we said: "You see? Again!" 1052 01:09:43,953 --> 01:09:45,986 I had make a mistake. 1053 01:09:48,248 --> 01:09:52,435 I had been using too simple a model of the Universe. 1054 01:09:54,691 --> 01:09:56,958 Time will not reverse direction 1055 01:09:57,083 --> 01:09:59,649 when the Universe begins to contract. 1056 01:10:03,190 --> 01:10:05,940 People will continue to get older, 1057 01:10:06,066 --> 01:10:10,213 so it is no good waiting until the universe recollapses 1058 01:10:10,338 --> 01:10:12,439 to return to our youth. 1059 01:10:28,699 --> 01:10:31,431 Einstein once asked a question: 1060 01:10:31,556 --> 01:10:36,224 "How much choice did God have in constructing the Universe?" 1061 01:10:38,743 --> 01:10:43,289 If my proposal that the universe has no boundary is correct, 1062 01:10:43,627 --> 01:10:45,709 he had no freedom at all 1063 01:10:45,835 --> 01:10:48,691 to choose how the Universe began. 1064 01:10:50,377 --> 01:10:52,844 He would only had had a freedom 1065 01:10:52,969 --> 01:10:55,991 to choose the laws the Universe obeyed. 1066 01:10:57,856 --> 01:11:02,292 This, however, may not have been all that much of a choice. 1067 01:11:04,469 --> 01:11:07,755 They may be well be only one unified theory 1068 01:11:07,931 --> 01:11:11,734 that allows for the existence of structures as complicated 1069 01:11:11,859 --> 01:11:13,491 as human beings, 1070 01:11:13,771 --> 01:11:17,126 who can investigate the laws of the Universe 1071 01:11:17,446 --> 01:11:20,179 and ask about the nature of God. 1072 01:11:28,524 --> 01:11:31,478 I don't know how clear-cut these experiments are, 1073 01:11:31,603 --> 01:11:35,330 but there are experiments that have been done on, sort of, timing of conciousness, 1074 01:11:35,702 --> 01:11:38,577 and they seem to lead to a very odd picture 1075 01:11:38,702 --> 01:11:41,641 which doesn't even quite make consistent sense. 1076 01:11:41,766 --> 01:11:45,590 Whether refinement of these experiments might actually get rid of this kind of anomaly 1077 01:11:45,715 --> 01:11:46,886 I'm not sure, 1078 01:11:47,011 --> 01:11:50,843 but it does look a little as though there's something very odd about conciousness, 1079 01:11:50,968 --> 01:11:54,687 and somehow almost as though future affects the past in some way 1080 01:11:54,812 --> 01:11:56,636 over a very tiny limited scale 1081 01:11:56,761 --> 01:12:00,267 but something maybe of the order of a reasonable fraction of a second. 1082 01:12:01,007 --> 01:12:03,782 And there's no reason to believe 1083 01:12:04,125 --> 01:12:08,707 that one's conscious experience shouldn't be part of somebody else's 1084 01:12:08,832 --> 01:12:10,287 at some other stage, I mean. 1085 01:12:10,412 --> 01:12:13,816 I don't if it's fair to say what happens after one dies but you could... 1086 01:12:13,941 --> 01:12:16,305 it's a plausible picture 1087 01:12:16,665 --> 01:12:18,578 that you could be sombody else. 1088 01:12:18,750 --> 01:12:22,330 And that somebody else could be somebody who lived in the past, not in the future. 1089 01:12:25,696 --> 01:12:29,670 If there's only one possible unified theory 1090 01:12:29,796 --> 01:12:33,083 that is just a set of rules and equations, 1091 01:12:34,565 --> 01:12:38,096 what is it that breathes fire into the equations 1092 01:12:38,221 --> 01:12:41,718 and makes a Universe for them to describe? 1093 01:12:43,731 --> 01:12:48,026 Why does the Universe go to all the bother of existing? 1094 01:12:50,111 --> 01:12:52,981 Is the unified theory so compelling 1095 01:12:53,106 --> 01:12:56,158 that it brings about its own existence? 1096 01:12:57,311 --> 01:12:59,937 Or does it need a Creator? 1097 01:13:00,947 --> 01:13:04,745 And if so, who created Him? 1098 01:13:14,110 --> 01:13:17,224 I think I would say that the Universe has a purpose, 1099 01:13:17,349 --> 01:13:20,633 it's not somehow just there by chance, 1100 01:13:20,758 --> 01:13:22,380 I mean, I think it's... 1101 01:13:28,635 --> 01:13:32,009 Some people, I think, take the view that the Universe is just there 1102 01:13:32,135 --> 01:13:35,225 and it sort of rumbles along and it just sort of computes, 1103 01:13:35,350 --> 01:13:38,738 we happen somehow by accident and found ourselves in this thing. 1104 01:13:38,912 --> 01:13:42,982 But I don't think that's a very fruitful 1105 01:13:43,107 --> 01:13:45,413 or helpful way of looking at the Universe. 1106 01:13:45,706 --> 01:13:48,581 I think that there's something much deeper about it. 1107 01:13:50,748 --> 01:13:54,480 In real time, the time in which we live, 1108 01:13:54,764 --> 01:13:58,545 the Universe has two possible destinies: 1109 01:13:59,538 --> 01:14:02,543 it may continue to expand forever, 1110 01:14:04,453 --> 01:14:09,448 or it may recollapse and come to an end at a Big Crunch. 1111 01:14:11,466 --> 01:14:14,235 It would be rather like the big Bang, 1112 01:14:14,599 --> 01:14:16,247 but in reverse. 1113 01:14:18,519 --> 01:14:24,448 I now believe that the Universe will come to an end at a Big Crunch. 1114 01:14:25,788 --> 01:14:28,844 I do, however, have certain advantages 1115 01:14:28,969 --> 01:14:32,182 over many other prophets of doom: 1116 01:14:34,027 --> 01:14:37,488 whatever happens 10 billion years from now, 1117 01:14:37,613 --> 01:14:41,579 I don't expect to be around to be proved wrong. 1118 01:14:44,394 --> 01:14:48,387 Of all the pictures that I know, 1119 01:14:48,512 --> 01:14:51,546 the simplest of any cosmology 1120 01:14:51,672 --> 01:14:54,492 is that in which the Universe is closed, 1121 01:14:54,770 --> 01:14:56,972 has a finite lifetime, 1122 01:14:57,177 --> 01:15:00,496 and collapses with the same kind of collapse 1123 01:15:00,797 --> 01:15:02,486 that a black hole does. 1124 01:15:04,734 --> 01:15:10,328 If it should turn out that indeed the Universe is limited in its life, 1125 01:15:12,193 --> 01:15:17,304 how is that different from the life of each one of us? 1126 01:15:27,424 --> 01:15:30,068 On the evening of Tuesday, March 5th, 1127 01:15:30,194 --> 01:15:32,435 at about 10h45, 1128 01:15:32,648 --> 01:15:36,147 I was returning to my flat in Pinehurst. 1129 01:15:38,027 --> 01:15:40,574 It was dark and raining. 1130 01:15:41,870 --> 01:15:43,983 I came up to Grange Road 1131 01:15:44,108 --> 01:15:46,620 and saw headlights approaching, 1132 01:15:46,745 --> 01:15:49,375 but judged that they were far enough away 1133 01:15:49,500 --> 01:15:51,699 that I could cross safely. 1134 01:15:54,205 --> 01:15:57,702 The vehicle must have been travelling very fast, 1135 01:15:58,074 --> 01:16:01,593 for when I got just past the middle of the road, 1136 01:16:01,718 --> 01:16:04,888 my nurse screamed: "Look out!" 1137 01:16:06,958 --> 01:16:09,061 I heard tires skidding 1138 01:16:09,186 --> 01:16:13,291 and my wheelchair was struck a tremendous blow in the back. 1139 01:16:15,101 --> 01:16:16,891 I ended up in the road, 1140 01:16:17,016 --> 01:16:20,442 with my legs over the remains of the wheelchair. 1141 01:16:22,333 --> 01:16:25,367 The accident destroyed my wheelchair 1142 01:16:25,492 --> 01:16:27,923 and damaged my computer system 1143 01:16:28,048 --> 01:16:30,230 with which I communicate. 1144 01:16:32,448 --> 01:16:36,449 I required 13 stitches in my head, 1145 01:16:37,740 --> 01:16:42,272 but I was able to go back to work several days later. 1146 01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,697 The memories I have are very much, 1147 01:16:51,159 --> 01:16:52,641 kind of, 1148 01:16:52,996 --> 01:16:56,219 visual pictures of what Stephen was. 1149 01:16:56,397 --> 01:17:00,309 I've seen Stephen in certains situations. 1150 01:17:01,318 --> 01:17:03,206 He was always moving, 1151 01:17:03,672 --> 01:17:04,933 always. 1152 01:17:05,323 --> 01:17:07,541 He was hardly ever still. 1153 01:17:08,797 --> 01:17:12,778 It was the same thing about his face and gestures, 1154 01:17:13,084 --> 01:17:15,497 which he used a great deal, I should say. 1155 01:17:15,623 --> 01:17:18,097 But it's only memory. 1156 01:17:19,513 --> 01:17:22,050 I found some photographs recently 1157 01:17:22,175 --> 01:17:26,002 which reminded me of the general look of everybody. 1158 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:30,369 I must say Stephen looked very much as he does now. 1159 01:17:31,150 --> 01:17:33,945 If one thinks of him like that. 1160 01:17:40,954 --> 01:17:43,919 He does believe very intensely 1161 01:17:45,552 --> 01:17:49,566 in almost infinite possibility of the human mind. 1162 01:17:50,129 --> 01:17:52,354 You have to find out what you can't know 1163 01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,526 before you know you can't, don't you? 1164 01:17:54,651 --> 01:17:58,824 So I don't think that thought should be restricted at all, 1165 01:17:58,999 --> 01:18:02,927 and there's... why shouldn't you go on thinking about the unthinkable? 1166 01:18:03,052 --> 01:18:05,172 Somebody's got to start sometime. 1167 01:18:05,297 --> 01:18:08,759 I mean, think how many things were unthinkable a century ago. 1168 01:18:08,884 --> 01:18:10,881 And yet people have thought them. 1169 01:18:11,006 --> 01:18:13,546 And often they seemed quite impractical. 1170 01:18:14,414 --> 01:18:16,946 Not all things Stephen says 1171 01:18:17,071 --> 01:18:19,730 probably are to be taken as Gospel. 1172 01:18:19,855 --> 01:18:22,339 truth is, he's a searcher, he's looking for things 1173 01:18:22,464 --> 01:18:26,182 and if he is sometimes, he probably talks nonsense as we all... 1174 01:18:26,359 --> 01:18:28,489 but the point is: 1175 01:18:29,748 --> 01:18:31,953 people must think. 1176 01:18:32,079 --> 01:18:34,117 People must go on thinking. 1177 01:18:34,242 --> 01:18:37,797 They must try to extend the boundaries of knowledge, 1178 01:18:37,922 --> 01:18:40,324 and they don't sometimes even know where to start. 1179 01:18:42,084 --> 01:18:45,129 We don't know where the boundaries are, do we? 1180 01:18:45,448 --> 01:18:48,660 We don't know what the taking off point is. 1181 01:18:57,744 --> 01:19:01,507 If we do discover a complete theory of the Universe, 1182 01:19:01,632 --> 01:19:04,073 it should, in time, be understandable, 1183 01:19:04,198 --> 01:19:06,603 in broad principle, by everyone, 1184 01:19:06,910 --> 01:19:09,410 not just a few scientists. 1185 01:19:14,206 --> 01:19:15,683 Then we shall all, 1186 01:19:15,966 --> 01:19:20,742 phylosophers, scientists and just ordinary people, 1187 01:19:20,913 --> 01:19:25,061 be able to take part in the discussion 1188 01:19:25,186 --> 01:19:28,726 on why it is that we, and the Universe, exist. 1189 01:19:32,271 --> 01:19:34,809 If we find the answer to that, 1190 01:19:35,146 --> 01:19:39,465 it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason. 1191 01:19:42,500 --> 01:19:44,612 For then we would know 1192 01:19:45,251 --> 01:19:47,736 the mind of God.