1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,440 He was one of Britain's favourite funny men. 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:10,680 Good evening. 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,520 One of the giants of British television. 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:18,200 You paint a very pretty picture. They could use you on Jackanory. 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,640 Everything he did had class about it. 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,080 A master of monologue. 7 00:00:23,080 --> 00:00:26,160 The Football Association announced today that any league player 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,560 who changes his sex before half-time will be allowed to finish the match. 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,520 Provided, of course, that there is alternative dressing room accommodation. 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,960 He was an absolutely great comic actor. 11 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:45,920 Good evening. 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,880 Every kid in every school knew all the shows. 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,040 He was a clown and a wordsmith. 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,160 Sometimes you get stuck on one letter such as wubbleyou. 15 00:00:53,160 --> 00:00:58,000 And I said, "Well, I've got a tin of woup, a woucumber, two packets of wheese and a walliflower." 16 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,440 A great chameleon, really, as well as a great comedian. 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,080 And a prolific comedy writer. 18 00:01:06,320 --> 00:01:10,000 You can't believe the same man in Porridge 19 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,040 is the same man as Open All Hours. 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,080 He is rooted in being a first-rate actor. 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,320 These are the many faces of Ronnie Barker. 22 00:01:31,320 --> 00:01:35,720 Ronnie Barker became one of the best loved comedy faces of the 1980s. 23 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,920 Oh, really? 24 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,800 He was sensational in variety shows as one half of The Two Ronnies. 25 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,520 Sir Laurence Olivier is appearing in 'No, No, Nanette' at the Trellis Theatre, Totnes. 26 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,840 And Nanette is appearing in 'No, No, Sir Laurence Olivier' at the Globe Theatre, Gosport. 27 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,920 And as a solo star in sitcoms like Porridge. 28 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,760 You know, Fletcher, this is the part of the job that I hate. 29 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,600 Locking men up, caging them in. 30 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,760 Yeah, it is a pity too, just when the good telly is starting and all. 31 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,520 It's a shame, isn't it, eh? All we ever see is the news, isn't it? 32 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,760 News and Nationwide. What's the good of bleeding Nationwide when you're stuck in here? 33 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,640 He shone from an early age but almost missed the stage for a career in banking. 34 00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:24,320 In private it was an image he never really shook off. 35 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,360 If you met him you would never ever think 36 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,280 he was anything to do with the theatre. 37 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,880 You would think he is a very witty, very witty, bank manager. 38 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,960 But Barker on-screen was an inspiration for a generation of British comedy. 39 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,160 Ronnie Barker was a superstar in all our lives. 40 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,280 '70s comedy was hugely important. 41 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,720 Every kid in every school knew all the shows. 42 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:51,960 Ronnie's fame was international, 43 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,760 the famous Four Candles sketch 44 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,880 wowing audiences all around the world. 45 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,080 In every English-speaking country in the world they were huge. 46 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:02,520 Saw tips. 47 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:03,560 Sore tips? 48 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,280 What do you want? Ointment or something like that? 49 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,760 It was a work of genius, that sketch was. 50 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,800 Ronnie Barker turned a desk job in theatre 51 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,400 into a stage job at the Oxford Playhouse, 52 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,320 and instantly made his mark. 53 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,760 Only gradually I realised that whenever I had a little part, 54 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,040 Ronnie would come up to me 55 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,480 and give me, what I realise now, were wonderful notes. 56 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,560 I did always leap on them and said, "Oh, I see what I'm doing now." 57 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,600 But he was a brilliant actor. 58 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:51,280 I can remember thinking how good he was in things. 59 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,320 But in this very quiet way. There was no bombast about him. 60 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,960 You wouldn't have known he was an actor. 61 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,800 Ronnie was good but in the early 1950s 62 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,680 a career in television was a million miles away. 63 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,360 We didn't speak about television. 64 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,960 Television was a very downmarket thing that some people did for money. 65 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,680 I don't remember anybody speaking about television. 66 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,120 Would you like to sit there, please? 67 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,760 Television was still the vulgar cousin of stage, 68 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,080 but Ronnie had his eye on glamour. 69 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,200 His first film appearance was as a waiter being upstaged by Frankie Vaughan. 70 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,520 Very nice to see you here. 71 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,560 Buenos dias, senor. Senorita. 72 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,640 What is all this, eh? Why all this argumentation? 73 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,680 Well, I'm very sorry, Sir, but for seven years now Sir Bertram has been my special customer 74 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,960 and I will not have him taken away from me by this foreigner. 75 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,360 Foreigner? 76 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,520 I am British through and through. Now, now, now. 77 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,880 The movie, Wonderful Things, turned out to be nothing special 78 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,120 and Ronnie's cinema debut came to nothing. 79 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,480 But in 1958 the wireless was the mass medium of the day, 80 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:10,120 and it was here that Ronnie Barker began to get noticed in the comedy The Navy Lark. 81 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:16,920 Betty Marsden told me about this very funny actor who was in a radio show, 82 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,600 The Navy Lark. 83 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,920 I want two halves. Do you mind? I've only got one pair of hands, you know. 84 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,960 Yeah, I had noticed. 85 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,440 They performed at the Playhouse Cinema 86 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:37,280 which was taken over by the BBC, so I went along and I saw Ronnie Barker 87 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:40,360 and was knocked out by him. I thought he was brilliant. 88 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:48,760 Radio was the place where comedians, star comedians, had their shows 89 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:54,440 and when television gradually took over, they created their own stars. 90 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,600 When radio star Jimmy Edwards moved to television 91 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,680 Ronnie Barker was part of the team. 92 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:06,360 It's 1961 and already somebody has noticed that Ronnie looks good behind a desk. 93 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,040 And here is the news. The sports. 94 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,880 There is no sign of any decrease 95 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,320 in the widespread changing of gender. 96 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,680 The clothing exchange centres 97 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,720 set up by the WBS 98 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,440 will now remain open until 10pm. 99 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,680 Muir and Norden were the top comedy writers on radio. 100 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,800 And they'd done this series with Jimmy Edwards 101 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,600 which they'd asked me to do, 102 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:42,520 and in that series we had Ronnie Barker, 103 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:48,000 and as soon as Muir and Norden saw Ronnie Barker in one episode 104 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:52,400 they started rewriting the scripts to bring him in more, 105 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,040 because he was obviously a major talent. 106 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,840 Jimmy Edwards was very much a traditional comedy performer 107 00:07:00,840 --> 00:07:07,080 but now, in the 1960s, the new kids wanted to make their own radical shows. 108 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,160 Jimmy Gilbert was to produce the landmark review The Frost Report. 109 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:16,000 We had John Cleese, Ronnie Corbett, 110 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,880 and I was looking for a third member of the cast. 111 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,760 And of course I didn't have to look very far. 112 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,800 I rang up Ronnie Barker and asked him if he would do it. 113 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:33,520 But he was appearing in a play at Stratford East, with Robert Atkins, 114 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:38,440 but he asked if he could be released and they let him go. 115 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,600 So we got him. We nearly didn't get him, 116 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,280 in which case where would The Two Ronnies have been? 117 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,080 Because it was The Frost Report where Ronnie Barker and Ronnie Corbett met, of course, 118 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,920 and they were marvellous together. 119 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,800 Good evening. Tonight in the studio we have the chairman 120 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,200 of The League Of Television Decency, Mr Whitewood. Good evening. 121 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,480 Good evening. 122 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:03,160 Now, Mr Whitewood, I understand that the purpose of your campaign 123 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,280 is in fact to clean up television. 124 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,040 Yes, we take exception most strongly to some of the double entendre 125 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,480 and suggestive dialogue in BBC plays, for example. 126 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,360 Would you like to give us an example? 127 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:15,840 Yes, willingly. 128 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:22,040 The other night a character was heard to say, and I quote, "Look here." 129 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,480 That sounds perfectly harmless to me. 130 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,920 It depends on which way you look at it, doesn't it? 131 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,160 I mean, to me, "look here" suggests 132 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,520 look here through this keyhole 133 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,400 at this young female person 134 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:35,840 divesting herself of her clothing. 135 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,560 It was fresh, it was different, 136 00:08:37,560 --> 00:08:40,720 and it was topical as well, and fairly cutting. 137 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,040 There were some really, you know... 138 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,800 And there were some very silly, sharp, little silly bits. 139 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,640 Waiter, could I have the baked jam roll, please? 140 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,320 Not till you've finished your cabbage. 141 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:00,360 The Frost Report was live, and that was very frightening. 142 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:06,320 But it actually... You know, adrenaline running around. 143 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,760 I remember John Cleese was absolutely petrified. 144 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,640 You go ahead. 145 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,240 I think I'll begin with a little Dubrovnik caviar 146 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,120 with just a twist of lemon. 147 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,760 Then the lobster without dressing, please, 148 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,200 covered with a mixture of mushrooms and onions the way the chef knows I like it. 149 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,040 The Ronnies had so much experience and I had none. 150 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,080 None at all. 151 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,760 And I do remember looking into the mirror in the bathroom one day 152 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,600 where I'd gone to wash my hands just before the show 153 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,040 and thinking, "I could not be more frightened 154 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,080 "if I was a matador going into a ring with a bull." 155 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:48,200 After that a small cup of Brazilian coffee, not the Cuban 156 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,600 and a glass of Courvoisier 21. 157 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,360 Thank you, sir. And Madam? 158 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,120 I'll have a plain omelette. 159 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,960 Sounds rather nice. Do you mind if I change? 160 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:05,040 The terror is drying, you know. 161 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:11,640 We had a live audience, it was going out live, and it was really scary. 162 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,840 A lot of it was David sitting and looking into camera 163 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:23,480 and reading lots of jokes off the Teleprompter, the autocue. 164 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,760 Of course, the traditional standard of cooking 165 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,520 we used to associate with the British 166 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,840 was that of a guest house at a certain unnamed seaside resort 167 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,480 famous for its Blackpool rock. 168 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,360 With his experience of repertory theatre, Ronnie Barker 169 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,720 brought acting skills to the increasingly dramatic sketches. 170 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,480 Ronnie was in on an exciting revolution in television. 171 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,720 The Frost Report brought together 172 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,560 old school and new school musical comedy 173 00:10:53,560 --> 00:10:55,600 in a fast-moving sketch format. 174 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,840 Enjoying your steak, are you? 175 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,880 Yes, thank you very much. 176 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,520 What he did was put together the intellectual mob, 177 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,040 the university people, 178 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,160 with more traditional performers. 179 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,240 The Chinese eat pussycats... 180 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,680 ..covered all over in melted chocolate. It's a well-known fact. 181 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,800 I don't care and I'm not interested. 182 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,200 And monkeys. 183 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,280 It is an amalgam of different backgrounds, 184 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:30,640 and that was a clever thing to do, sort of comedy fusion, almost. 185 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,640 Gone off it, have you? Yes. 186 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,120 Just going to eat vegetables, are you? Yes. 187 00:11:40,680 --> 00:11:43,760 Vegetables have nervous systems too, you know. 188 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,600 Scientists have recorded their screams of agony 189 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,040 as they are torn out the ground by their roots. 190 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,680 Carrots shriek. 191 00:11:52,680 --> 00:11:54,920 HE SQUEAKS 192 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,960 Ronnie Barker extraordinarily sort of crossed... 193 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,360 He could work with the university types 194 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,880 and he could work with the lowbrow types, 195 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,080 Ronnie Corbett amongst others. 196 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,960 He was amazing 197 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:17,880 at bridging those two class distinctions, if you like. 198 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,840 But he was essentially an actor. He wasn't a comedian. 199 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,680 I look down on him because I am upper-class. 200 00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:34,320 I look up to him because he is upper-class. 201 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:39,200 But I look down on him because he is lower-class. 202 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:40,840 I am middle-class. 203 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,680 I know my place. 204 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,360 I look up to them both, 205 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,200 but I don't look up to him 206 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,120 as much as I look up to him. 207 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,720 Cos he has got innate breeding. 208 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,560 I have got innate breeding but I have not got any money. 209 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:05,600 That famous sketch that illustrates class difference 210 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,040 with Cleese, Corbett and Barker together, 211 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:13,480 it has become the lazy shorthand for all debate about class in the '60s. 212 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,960 Every time you see a TV documentary that refers to the idea of class 213 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,240 or a Newsnight discussion, let's say, about class, 214 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,680 that image is projected up on the screen. 215 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:26,520 In a way, it is because it's brilliant. 216 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,200 It captures that idea of social mobility, 217 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:34,440 or in fact the lack of it in the '60s that people were talking about. 218 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:35,880 Barker is in the middle 219 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,000 but actually Barker could have been anywhere in the line-up. 220 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:44,000 Rather hard to imagine John Cleese playing the working-class guy at the end, 221 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,280 rather hard to imagine Ronnie Corbett 222 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,920 embodying that kind of upper-class hauteur that Cleese does so effortlessly. 223 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,360 Barker could have been anywhere in that. 224 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,400 I shall now pronounce sentence. 225 00:14:02,680 --> 00:14:05,280 There were two series of The Frost Report on the BBC 226 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,160 before the show moved to ITV as Frost On Sunday. 227 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,240 John Cleese had already decided to leave the show. 228 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,080 He would go on to create Monty Python 229 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,320 after his first attempt at a dream team, 230 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,120 including Ronnie Barker, failed. 231 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,520 Silence in court. 232 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,000 If there is any more noise I shall have to ask the orchestra to leave. 233 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,480 I can't remember quite why we went our different ways. 234 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:41,280 I do know that at one stage I tried to put them all together. 235 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:47,440 Graham Chapman and I wrote a movie for the Frost organisation 236 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,800 which was called Piglust And Company. 237 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:56,920 And Ronnie Barker was Mr Piglust, and I liked the script very much. 238 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,880 And it had Ronnie Barker, Ronnie Corbett, 239 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:02,080 Marty, Tim, Graham and me in it 240 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,040 so it was very much an attempt to put the group together. 241 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,320 Unfortunately Frost sold it to Ned Sherrin. 242 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,960 I thought he'd brought Ned Sherrin in as producer, 243 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:16,240 and Ned, who I didn't like very much as a person, or professionally, 244 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,880 I thought there was a coarseness to his taste, 245 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,720 he would not use Charlie Crichton, who was of course the director for A Fish Called Wanda, 246 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,160 and so Graham and I walked away from the project 247 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,440 and so did Ronnie Barker and Ronnie Corbett, and we just went off. 248 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,040 I would love to have got us together. 249 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,960 The Frost shows were hungry for scripts 250 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,360 and attracted some of the best comedy talent of the generation. 251 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:39,480 Hello? 252 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,640 British Hormone Company here. Miss Thompkin speaking. 253 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:50,760 We wrote hundreds of sketches, so many. 254 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,600 The pressure is therefore huge. 255 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,080 You can't sort of... You can't hang around. 256 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,120 There are certain rules, techniques. 257 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,160 You can't hang around without a laugh for too long. 258 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,960 The worst of the lot was you've got to have a punchline. 259 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:14,320 I mean, look, it says here in the paper "intimacy took place". 260 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,840 Now why can't they come straight out with it 261 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,360 and say he gave her a jolly good... 262 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:19,800 Did you see the cricket? 263 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,560 Why can't they say he gave her a jolly good... Cricket! 264 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,360 Why can't they just say he gave her a jolly good dinner 265 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,800 then he took her home and then... 266 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,600 And then what? 267 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,760 And then intimacy took place. 268 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,080 Ronnie also knew a good script when he saw it. 269 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:45,400 I think that's one of the key things of a genius performer. 270 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:50,240 Out of all the comedy people almost in British comedy history 271 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:54,120 he is probably the one who has done the least crap. 272 00:16:54,120 --> 00:17:01,120 He, by and large, everything he did had class about it. 273 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,120 Many of the writers on the show would go on to be household names - 274 00:17:07,120 --> 00:17:09,840 Michael Palin, Graeme Garden, Barry Cryer. 275 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,200 There was another writer, though, who was as prolific 276 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,600 and would have been revered if he hadn't been a complete enigma. 277 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:22,600 Some sketches started coming in that were really classy, very funny, 278 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,000 and the writer was never there. 279 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:30,080 And we started to ask, "Where is he?" 280 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,760 They said, "He just sends them in. Don't know who it is." 281 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,200 The notorious episode of Gerald Wiley 282 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,200 who we were told was a recluse. 283 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,040 And he started submitting sketches. 284 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,120 And we used to say, "Anything from Gerald Wiley this week?" 285 00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:49,400 Disappointed if there wasn't. 286 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,640 And then at the very end - nobody knew - 287 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,280 we were all taking bets who it was, 288 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,320 because you thought, this person is too good, he is too good at writing, 289 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,000 he must be a writer or something. 290 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,800 The first one they ever did was set in a doctor's waiting room, 291 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,800 had a very big part for Ronnie Corbett, 292 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,560 and a small one for Ronnie Barker. 293 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,280 And I was going to say they both liked the sketch, 294 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:11,720 but of course they both did. 295 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,760 Ronnie Corbett didn't know who Gerald Wiley was. 296 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,880 And then Wiley starts submitting. 297 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,720 The funny thing was Ronnie Barker sometimes turned down a Gerald Wiley sketch. 298 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,920 He'd say, "No, it's not up to his usual standard." 299 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,160 It got to the end of the series 300 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:33,040 and David took us all out for a Chinese meal, big table, 301 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,200 and they invited this man. 302 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,280 It was like Agatha Christie. We were all there. 303 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:43,360 We all turned up and Frank Muir popped his head in as our boss 304 00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:46,040 and we thought, "It was you having a laugh." No! 305 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,080 We thought it was Tom Stoppard who was with that agent. 306 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:53,320 We're sitting there agog waiting for this bloke to arrive, 307 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:59,240 and all of a sudden up jumps Ronnie Barker 308 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,480 and says, "I am sorry to disappoint you all but it's me." 309 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,120 I think most of us laughed and thought, "Very good gag," 310 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:06,960 and kept looking around for Gerald Wiley. 311 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,800 He then said, "No, it is me." 312 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:13,240 I stood up and said the toast is nobody loves a smart arse. 313 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,520 That was Wiley revealed. 314 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,520 And then of course he'd lost his cover. 315 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,160 I respected why he did it in the first place. 316 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,040 He didn't want sketches accepted just cos he'd written them. 317 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,520 But then his cover was blown. 318 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,720 Rather embarrassingly, 319 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,560 Gerald Wiley began to take ideas from other writers 320 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,840 and use them for himself. 321 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,440 The famous sketch with the spoonerisms in it, 322 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:42,920 not originated by Ronnie Barker or Gerald Wiley, 323 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,920 but added to sequels written to this sketch. 324 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:51,200 Good evening. I am the President Of The Loyal Society For The Relief Of Sufferers From Pismronunciation. 325 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,360 People who can't say their worms correctly. 326 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:56,040 Or who use the wrong worms entirely, 327 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,560 so that other people cannot underhand a bird they are spraying. 328 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,800 The pismronunciation of worms, 329 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,880 one of the most famous of those sketches 330 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,920 where Barker talks directly to camera 331 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,760 and gives you a kind of Ministry Of Information lecture. 332 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,760 The first one was not written by him, 333 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,880 but all the subsequent others were. 334 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,840 It's just that you open your mouse and the worms come turbling out 335 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,160 in wuck a say that you dick not what you're thugging to be. 336 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,920 And I know that there was a little bit of tension, 337 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,840 because I think they felt sometimes 338 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,040 that Ronnie kind of rewrote ideas of theirs 339 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,320 without them really getting any credit. 340 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,120 And sometimes they felt he changed the material. 341 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,200 David Frost had taken the show to ITV 342 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,440 and was keen to make the most of his stable of comedy thoroughbreds. 343 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,880 Ronnie would be tried out in longer formats 344 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,320 including a film he both wrote and produced, 345 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,160 Futtocks End. 346 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,280 It was a slapstick movie of sound effects 347 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,200 with no dialogue. 348 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,240 And was not his finest moment. 349 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,720 There's only one criticism I would make of Ronnie. 350 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,560 He had a little bit of the Benny Hill streak of humour. 351 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,880 He could put in a bosom or bottom joke 352 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,880 when it just slightly lowered the tone 353 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,160 of the absolutely excellent work he was doing everywhere else. 354 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:22,480 It was 1970 and Futtocks End was at one extreme of a very wide spectrum of acting roles for Ronnie. 355 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,560 At the other end was an offer of Shakespeare. 356 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,160 "It is sad," he said. "I'm not going to be able to do this. I have been offered this." 357 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,800 I said, "Why can't you do it?" 358 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,680 He said, "It's during the school holiday." 359 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,840 I thought, "What has that got to do with it?" 360 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,120 He said, "Well, Joy and I and the kids always go to Littlehampton." 361 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:45,440 I said, "Yes, but it's television! It's not doing a play every night where you can't get there." 362 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,240 "Course you can. You can rehearse during the day and they'll give you the weekend off." 363 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,240 He said, "No, it's the school holiday." 364 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:58,200 I'd have given them au pairs to die for down in Littlehampton to look after them all. 365 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,880 Ronnie did in fact play Bottom in A Midsummer Night's Dream 366 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,920 with his old colleague Eileen Atkins. 367 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,120 HE BRAYS 368 00:22:08,120 --> 00:22:11,200 I suppose I might have thought whether 369 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,880 because he had been doing these sketches on television 370 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,360 I wondered whether he would have, when he played with you, 371 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:24,040 you would still feel the engagement with what you were doing as well. 372 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,520 But it was all there, absolutely. 373 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:32,920 He is rooted in being a first-rate actor and nothing had shifted. 374 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,000 No, he was lovely. 375 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,720 I've had a dream. 376 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,200 Past the wit of man to say what dream it was. 377 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,760 Man is but an ass if he go about t'expound this dream. 378 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,560 While at ITV Ronnie appeared in six plays, The Ronnie Barker Playhouse, 379 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,080 and Six Dates With Barker, 380 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,720 each intended to but failing to find a sitcom for the rising star. 381 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,720 The character of Lord Rustless did emerge 382 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,080 and featured regularly in the sketch show Hark At Barker. 383 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,280 He would go on to make regular appearances throughout Ronnie's career. 384 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,000 There you are. 385 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,040 I suppose some of you must be wondering why I have sent for you. 386 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:22,680 The point is the television people thought that you might like to have a look around. 387 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,000 Ronnie was named ITV Personality Of The Year in 1969. 388 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,640 ITV must have known they had a star in Barker 389 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,880 but his destiny was about to be forged, 390 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,240 not by his talent, but by his contract. 391 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,440 There was a very poor decision made at London Weekend Television. 392 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,440 There was a lot of politics and David Frost, 393 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,160 an absolutely brilliant entrepreneur, apart from anything, 394 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,000 who helped to create London Weekend Television, 395 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,400 had The Two Ronnies under contract, 396 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,440 and there was some politics that went on, 397 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,360 and the management at London Weekend Television 398 00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:07,600 said they wouldn't continue with The Two Ronnies 399 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,960 by buying them through David Frost's company. 400 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,800 Which was a ridiculous decision. 401 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,200 And so they left and the BBC couldn't believe their luck. 402 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,200 And they signed The Two Ronnies. 403 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,080 ITV had The Two Ronnies, and lost them, 404 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,080 in the same way the BBC had Stanley Baxter, and lost him. 405 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,120 The BBC launched The Two Ronnies TV show in 1971. 406 00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:37,120 Their trademark opening address 407 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:41,120 would welcome millions of families in Britain for the next 16 years. 408 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,480 Thank you. Good evening and welcome to the show. 409 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,720 It's very nice to be with you all, isn't it? It is. 410 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,840 It's very nice to be with you. Thank you, Ron. 411 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,360 Every Two Ronnies show was closely formatted. 412 00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:59,200 Viewers expected to see the newsreaders, 413 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,400 sketches and song parodies. 414 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,160 # I would love to eat anything I wanted 415 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,200 # Bangers and beans and enormous lumps of fried bread 416 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,440 # Fed chop and chips and steak and kidney pies 417 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,120 # By a girl who likes cooking who's big and good-looking 418 00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:20,920 # Whose dumplings are double the size 419 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,760 # We'll all have a damn good time 420 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,600 # All peaches and cream. # 421 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,760 They complement each other very well. 422 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,120 There's the physical thing going on, of course, 423 00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:34,120 the big chubby man with the short man. 424 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:38,960 We've seen that from time immemorial in comedy. 425 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,120 But there's something about the way... 426 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:44,080 The rhythm of their performances together, 427 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,000 there is a naturalness about it. 428 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,760 In those sketches where they meet at a party 429 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,040 you can almost believe that those people are real, 430 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,880 no matter how absurd their afflictions and their verbal ticks are. 431 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,000 Hello. I don't believe we've met. Clive Winfrey. 432 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,120 Hello, my name is... 433 00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:02,040 No, no, no, don't tell me, don't tell me. 434 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,240 It is a little game I like to play at parties, guessing people's names. 435 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,680 I'm very good at it too. I always guess their name by what they look like. 436 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:16,000 It might be partly because Ronnie Corbett accepted his secondary role in that partnership 437 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,440 that he wasn't trying to muscle in on the writing process as well 438 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,280 and was in a way happy to let Ronnie Barker 439 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,280 be kind of the originator in that act. 440 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,000 I am so sure you will not be able to guess my name, 441 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,960 if you get it right I will allow you 442 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:36,080 to spend the night with my wife, the beautiful lady in the red. 443 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,120 She's smiling, looking... 444 00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:40,320 How many guesses can I have? 445 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,560 You can have as many as you like. 446 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,440 All right, well, you look to me like a prat. 447 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,480 Sidney Pratt. 448 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,880 No. No. 449 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,000 Perhaps you're more like a wally. 450 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,760 Are you a Wally Partington-Smythe? No. 451 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,280 Monty Rothermere. 452 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,720 No. Look, I'll give you a clue. 453 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,280 My surname sounds like something that comes out at night. 454 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,400 Malcolm Dentures. 455 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,760 But actually I think what makes it work 456 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,720 is that they just seem to like each other. 457 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,480 There is a sort of ease about the way they work with each other 458 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,040 when they are sitting out as the village idiots on the wall 459 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,840 or the two old guys in the allotment. 460 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,560 You know we live in the same sort of house? Yes? 461 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:37,360 Same road, same shape, same size rooms? Yes. 462 00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:41,600 You know when you papered your front room you told me 463 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,440 you bought eight rolls of wallpaper? 464 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,960 That's right, yeah. 465 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,520 Well, I've just papered our front room. Oh, yeah? 466 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,480 I bought eight rolls of wallpaper. 467 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,200 When I finished I had two over. 468 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,960 That's funny. 469 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,440 So did I. 470 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,160 Together The Two Ronnies perfectly complemented each other, 471 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,960 but they had a different approach to being on their own. 472 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,680 I am feeling a little bit drained. I spent the weekend potholing. 473 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,000 Ronnie Corbett's armchair monologues 474 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,640 seemed a natural portrayal of the man himself. 475 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,520 I say potholing. To be honest, 476 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,760 actually I was in the back garden 477 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,400 trying to pull up a worm and it got the better of me. 478 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,360 But Ronnie Barker always appeared in character. 479 00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:33,480 What about that? 480 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,320 A? A! I didn't help you at all with that one. 481 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,280 I. No, that's the hatstand. 482 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,880 H. No, you are reading all the furniture. 483 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,760 See if you can grab the end of this long pole. 484 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,880 I've got it. Got it? Thank goodness for that. 485 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:18,600 I think Ronnie was never comfortable performing as himself. 486 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,600 He always had to be in character, something he always made very clear, 487 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,440 which was why he would always have just a moustache 488 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,680 if nothing else when he was playing those announcers at the desk. 489 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,800 Always made him feel more comfortable. 490 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:38,680 And yet in conversation and as himself he was supremely funny. 491 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,760 In a very straight, very dry way. 492 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,480 Do you ever experience a general feeling of wobbliness? 493 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,240 A, yes. Or B, no. 494 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,360 Yes, A. Yes, I do get wobbliness in the head. 495 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,560 There are several possible causes of wobbliness. Please state number of legs. 496 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,400 Two when I last looked. 497 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,840 Oh, sorry, wrong button. Wait a minute. 498 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,280 No! Oh, dear, wait a minute. 499 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,960 You appear to have 12 legs. 500 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,200 Are you A, the Nolan sisters? 501 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,320 B, the Parliamentary Social Democratic Party? 502 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,480 C, three teams of one-legged polo players? 503 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,160 Or D, was this a mistake? 504 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,200 Ronnie Barker was starring in The Two Ronnies 505 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,320 and he wrote much of the material. 506 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,920 Good evening, here is the news. 507 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,680 But the sheer volume of scripts demanded outside writers 508 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,400 and attracted contributions from all over the world. 509 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,240 The news desk items famously came in 510 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,320 from all quarters across the British Isles, maybe even the world. 511 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:53,440 They had this vast sort of pool of submitters. 512 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,800 Dentists from Aberdeen, I don't know who they were, 513 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,960 as well as a core of more professional writers 514 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,400 who did it for a living. 515 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,640 In the divorce courts today an 85-year-old farmer divorced his 17-year-old wife 516 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,000 because he couldn't keep his hands off her. 517 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,760 He has now sacked all his hands and bought a combine harvester. 518 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,640 They would whittle it down to 100 lines a week 519 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,840 which they themselves would then rewrite anyway 520 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,720 to give them a greater crispness. 521 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,400 These 100 would be submitted to each of the two Ronnies, 522 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:32,240 and from that 100 they would pick 12, 15 or something, 523 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,320 that they would actually use on the show, 524 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,320 and every one had to get two ticks from each of them. That was the rule. 525 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,400 # With what anguish 526 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,760 # I await my beloved 527 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,600 # My poor frail body 528 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,960 # Is wasting away. # 529 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,800 It was a kind of seemingly bottomless well of characterisation, 530 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,240 particularly that Ronnie Barker managed to achieve, 531 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,080 which was just marvellous to behold, really. 532 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,760 # In yon gloomy tower 533 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,600 # The cause of my pinings at present reclining 534 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,560 # In her chamber 535 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,480 # Ah, me, when will she 536 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:19,560 # Be free to be mine own? 537 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,440 LAUGHTER DROWNS SINGING 538 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,880 Good evening. I'm from the Ministry Of Sex Equality. 539 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,840 I'm here tonight to explain the situation man to man. 540 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,640 Or as we have to say, person to person. 541 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,280 My name is Mr stroke Mrs Barker. 542 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:46,440 But I don't advise any of you to try it - stroking Mrs Barker. 543 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,400 He is absolutely brilliant at those lectures to camera. 544 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:55,480 He can just turn on that pomposity, that silliness, 545 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,400 but still make it sort of convincing. 546 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,200 He had such a good ear for these things, 547 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,760 his wordplay was so dexterous, 548 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,120 he knew how to kind of copy the rhythms of the sermon 549 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,840 or the public information film, 550 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,800 and twist them until they became utterly preposterous. 551 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,240 The recent idea by the ministry, to avoid confusion, 552 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,080 is to call a man a doings and a woman a thingy. 553 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,520 This offends no-one and makes conversation clearer, 554 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,760 thus we instantly recognise the book called Little Thingies 555 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,440 or the musical called My Fair Thingy, 556 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,960 or the play by George Bernard Shaw called Doings and Superdoings. 557 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,080 ITV had tried Ronnie Barker in sitcom showcases twice without success. 558 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,920 The BBC also realised they had an extraordinary talent. 559 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,720 In 1973 they commissioned a series of one-off comedy pilots, 7 Of 1, 560 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:54,240 with the intention of finding that elusive sitcom blockbuster. 561 00:33:54,240 --> 00:34:01,120 Ronnie must have been pretty special on the sixth floor at the Beeb 562 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,960 and in the eyes of the viewers by the time he did 7 Of 1. 563 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,880 Alan, tea? 564 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,840 One Man's Meat paired Barker with Prunella Scales 565 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,080 making much of the man's rotund stature. 566 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,600 Just about a man who was on an enforced diet. 567 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,040 His wife emptied the fridge, took all his clothes away 568 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,880 and he couldn't eat a thing. 569 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,720 She even got the inside out of a boiled egg 570 00:34:25,720 --> 00:34:28,360 so when he thought he had got a boiled egg it was empty. 571 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,200 It was very funny, and it was written by a man called Jack Goetz, 572 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,280 who turned out to be Ronnie. 573 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,520 Oh, I'm awfully sorry. I accidentally spilt them all over your nice trousers. 574 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,400 Why don't we take them off? I'll dry them on the radiator. 575 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,640 One Man's Meat failed to impress, 576 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,560 but two of the seven experiments 577 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,920 would eventually make extended series. 578 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,360 Open All Hours introduced a young David Jason 579 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,640 when first broadcast in 1973. 580 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,320 Hey, Granville, have you been courting again? 581 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,600 Fat chance. We don't close till nine. 582 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,000 Mrs Sculley said it could have been you she saw coming out of their Margaret... 583 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,880 You what? ..'s place on Frith Street. Let me finish! 584 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,000 Go and get them papers in. 585 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,560 I told you not to go and see that Ken Russell film. 586 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,160 BELL RINGS 587 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,040 You've hardly got your spots cleared up from the last one. 588 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,760 Another pilot, Prisoner And Escort, 589 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,040 led directly to a sitcom some people consider to be 590 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,840 the pinnacle of Ronnie Barker's career. 591 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,040 Don't give me any of your facetious lip, Fletcher. 592 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,800 I know you were trying to work one last night. 593 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,360 On what do you base that supposition, Mr MacKay? 594 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,320 On the evidence of our motor mechanic's report on the van. 595 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,760 It appears that the petrol tank had more in it after our journey than before. 596 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,440 Only what was in the tank was certainly not 5-star. 597 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,760 Now, I'm going to be watching you, Fletcher. 598 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,600 I'm going to be watching you like a hawk, 599 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,280 because nobody, nobody goes over the wall in my prison. 600 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,720 Oh no, Mr MacKay, no-one would dare take the petrol out of you. 601 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,120 Norman Stanley Fletcher. 602 00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:35,160 Small-time villain Norman Stanley Fletcher is convicted. 603 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,120 He takes his sentence one day at a time, 604 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,880 winning minor victories against the system 605 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,200 and in particular the stern warder, Mr MacKay, 606 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,880 played by Fulton MacKay. 607 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,520 Morning, Mr MacKay. 608 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,040 Thanks again, mate, see you. 609 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,920 Thanks. What was all that about? 610 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,680 That was just a bit of friendly advice, Mr MacKay, that's all. 611 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,880 Just a bit of friendly advice on matters of the heart between him and me. 612 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:08,840 Tell me, Fletcher, is it true this is the office of Slade Prison's Miss Lonely Hearts? 613 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,440 Is that why you're here, then? Problems of that nature? 614 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,600 I have no problems of that nature. 615 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,600 h, come off it, Mr MacKay. All screws - beg your pardon - 616 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,760 all prison officers have problems in that area, don't they? 617 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,640 Matrimonially you and me is very similar. 618 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,280 Because while we are both stuck in here 619 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,400 we can't be sure what our old ladies are up to. There's no difference. 620 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,680 There is a major difference, Fletcher. 621 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,760 Your wives are criminals' wives, 622 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,640 they belong to the criminal classes 623 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,200 with all their hidden traits of slovenliness and promiscuity. 624 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,040 Our wives are the wives of uniformed men, 625 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,200 used to a life of service, duty, decency and moral fibre. 626 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:52,400 My house, my house reflects my wife. Big, is it? Spotless. 627 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,160 Ronnie just disappeared, you know, 628 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,680 inside those people that he played. 629 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,120 Fletcher! I mean, what a wonderful creation. 630 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:07,800 He did say to me once, he said, "It's me, Sam, really. It's me, really. It's easy." 631 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,800 But, you know, it was a complete full-blooded character, 632 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,440 and that's what he was so brilliant at. 633 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,480 I think there was a touch of genius really. 634 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,840 Hello. What do you want? Will you do the honours? 635 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,120 What, read it out to you, do you mean? Yes. Yeah, all right. From the wife, is it? 636 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,480 Yeah, know her perfume anywhere. 637 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,520 Oh, yes, very distinctive. 638 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,560 I should think this kills 99% of household germs. 639 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,720 I knew it was good, it was really good and the scripts were great, 640 00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:44,080 but I didn't know it was going to be a huge hit as it turned out to be, 641 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,560 I mean with books written about it, 642 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:54,840 and the top viewing figures one Sunday night in 1976 or '75 or something, of 22 million. 643 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,280 I will get Saturday morning off at the laundry. 644 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,120 I miss you and think of us 645 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,960 when you was at home and you used to take my... 646 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,840 Used to what? 647 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,880 Well, it's a bit personal, the next bit, you know what I mean? 648 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,560 I don't think I should really read it out, aloud, not in front of me. 649 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,880 Well, you know, it's intimate. What does she say? 650 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,520 You read it. Oh, you can't read, can you? 651 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,760 'Half past seven, eight o'clock, whenever it was, 652 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,760 'was a bit of an event. We'll be there for that.' 653 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,600 Did you see Porridge last night? 654 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,200 That episode of Porridge where he and Richard Beckinsale 655 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,880 are confined in their cell 656 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,680 fantasising about a day out that they will never have... 657 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,280 Dreams is your escape, ain't they? 658 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,560 There's no locked doors, barriers, frontiers, 659 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:46,840 dreams is freedom. 660 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:51,560 ..is one of the most brilliant examples of acting control 661 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:57,720 and writing too, that I think '70s TV ever produced. It is absolutely perfect. 662 00:39:57,720 --> 00:40:03,720 And there is something about the way Barker can conjure those fantasies, 663 00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:07,200 the way he narrates that day of pleasure, 664 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:12,040 fantasising about being out in the countryside when they're within the prison walls, 665 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,560 it is just a masterclass in acting. 666 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,120 Kids like you, they shouldn't be in prison, not really. 667 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,960 It's the system, isn't it? 668 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,800 You're not here to be reformed or rehabilitation, are you? 669 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,280 You're just here for public revenge, ain't you? 670 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:32,360 With me it's a different kettle of fish. It's occupational hazard. 671 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,800 Being as how my occupation is breaking the law. 672 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,880 Still, my family has never gone short. 673 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,720 I've got a wife and three kids. Want a bit of this? 674 00:40:43,720 --> 00:40:45,760 Ta. 675 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,120 Wife and three kids, I'll show you their picture when it gets light. 676 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,240 Now my youngest, he's just got into grammar school. 677 00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:53,680 Has he? 678 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,560 Yeah. Very expensive school it is. Nice, though. 679 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,040 But costs a lot. 680 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,360 Books, equipment, all that sort of thing. 681 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,040 When my son went there on the first day he didn't want for nothing. 682 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,160 Rugby boots, blazer, cap, scarf, the lot. 683 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,360 He wouldn't have had them if his father had just been a struggling clerk, would he, now? 684 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:16,440 Reason he had them was because his father had just robbed a school outfit. 685 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,720 Any actor who'd never done comedy or TV, 686 00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:24,760 who perhaps played the Royal Shakespeare Company 687 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,400 and the National Theatre, 688 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,280 would look at those performances 689 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:33,880 and say, "My God, that is acting of the highest calibre." 690 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,520 Take one. 691 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,800 Action. 692 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,480 The character of Fletcher had broken into the hearts of the public 693 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,320 and Porridge was a huge success with a cinema feature film spin-off. 694 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,960 Oh, dear. 695 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,040 Where's Elaine work? Tarpaulin factory? 696 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,080 Read it. 697 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,320 All right, I'll just give you the highlights. 698 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,000 "Dearest bunny, blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah." 699 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,400 Blah blah blah, what? 700 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,320 It's all trivia, it's nothing. 701 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,880 It's the weather, her mother's catarrh, 702 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,520 she's retiled the lav, the canary's got haemorrhoids, 703 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,560 she met a welder at the Fiesta Club, she's thinking of moving in with him. 704 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,400 I must be off. I can't hang about. 705 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,320 We haven't got a canary. 706 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,280 Cut. 707 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,840 # I'm going straight 708 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,880 # I am straight as an arrow. # 709 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,640 And when Fletcher had served his time, 710 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,440 there was a sequel following his release. 711 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,880 # I'm going straight, I am 712 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:41,000 # Along the straight and narrow. # 713 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,600 Left something behind, have you? Yes, three and a half years of my life. 714 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,040 You'd better move on a bit sharpish. All right, all right. 715 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,240 Oi! 716 00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:02,040 Oi! Let me in! 717 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,800 Porridge won a Royal Television Society Award for outstanding achievement. 718 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,960 Barker would win four BAFTAs over his career. 719 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,480 In 1975, accepting a Best Light Entertainment Performance Award, 720 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,120 he was moved by the sudden death of his Porridge co-star. 721 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:26,040 Ladies and gentlemen, 722 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,880 the tragic and untimely death 723 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:32,120 of my good friend and colleague, Richard Beckinsale, three days ago, 724 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,960 has robbed me of the joy of this award, 725 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,200 but the pride in winning it still remains. 726 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,280 Richard's contribution to Going Straight will always be remembered, 727 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,320 but this award is also for The Two Ronnies 728 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,960 and I would also like to pay tribute 729 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,280 to my equally close friend and colleague Mr Ronnie Corbett. 730 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,440 Thank you very much. 731 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,760 Later in life Ronnie would achieve a BAFTA Lifetime Achievement Award 732 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:05,040 but The Two Ronnies received their biggest double act accolade with two OBEs in 1978. 733 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,160 Can you describe the ceremony? 734 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,520 It was rather moving. 735 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,640 I thought the bride's father looked wonderful. 736 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,200 It was lovely and nerve wracking and moving. You got very nervous. 737 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,160 We both had to spend a penny. I had to use the royal we, twice. 738 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,400 Through the '70s, Ronnie acted in both Porridge and Open All Hours. 739 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,280 He later claimed Fletcher in Porridge was his favourite creation, 740 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,040 but he was worried about typecasting, 741 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,760 so he moved between the two series. 742 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,040 I'll kill that flaming mouse. 743 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,320 What gets me is 744 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,680 if he can move like that why hasn't he got a number on his jersey? 745 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,880 He's faster than you are. 746 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,040 Well, I know that, don't I? 747 00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:00,480 It's no good hanging around here waiting for a cheese-eating tortoise. 748 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,360 By the 1980s, television had moved on. 749 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,200 Traditional family light entertainment 750 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,800 was being challenged by young, alternative comedians. 751 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,920 The tide did turn against this kind of humour. 752 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:21,000 I think we've forgotten now that rather awkward moment 753 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,480 when the two Ronnies were doing shows 754 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,520 at the same time as the alternative comedians coming through, 755 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,280 and there was a kind of battle between those people, 756 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:37,960 and Barker and Corbett did become whipping boys for these comedians. 757 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,760 Not The Nine O'Clock News saw The Two Ronnies as an easy target. 758 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,400 It was a very legitimate pastiche and extremely affectionate and very well done. 759 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,840 But Ronnie Barker really didn't like it at all and wrote a letter. 760 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,160 I have this from John Lloyd who produced the sketch. 761 00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:02,760 He said it was excrement. He basically complained to the BBC. 762 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,840 That wasn't Ronnie's finest hour 763 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,240 but we are all very sensitive to criticism. 764 00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:11,640 It is hard to see yourself as others see you and I'm sure... 765 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,440 I think I did get the chance to ask him about it. 766 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,480 I think he realised later it was legitimate and fun. 767 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,160 But probably he felt threatened, 768 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,760 I think everybody feels threatened in show business. It's a bit of a paranoid career. 769 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,920 New wave comedians had grown up watching family entertainment 770 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:31,080 but now wanted their own comedy to be less like their dads'. 771 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,160 The two generations collided at a BBC Christmas party. 772 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,640 It was a magical thing for me to go into this room, Russ Abbot over there, 773 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,480 and suddenly, my goodness, there's Ronnie Barker. 774 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,520 I was with Stephen Fry and we edged into his orbit 775 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,800 because we were both extremely starstruck. Out of admiration. 776 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,520 This is a man who is a comedy great. 777 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,480 Anyway, he sort of turned to us and looked rather imperial 778 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,120 and pointed at Stephen and said, "Like you." 779 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,160 And he pointed at me and said, "Don't much like you." 780 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,320 Jolly nice party this, isn't it? 781 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,280 That was it. I wasn't... It's not so much I wasn't having it, 782 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,240 everybody was kind of, "That was a bit much!" 783 00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:15,160 Rather nice wine. 784 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,520 And we began to talk and of course I was completely besotted 785 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,560 and he was pleased that I knew his catalogue pretty comprehensively. 786 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,400 Anyway, at the end of it he kind of nodded and said, "Well, I like you better now." 787 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,280 Supposing I kept an eye on that hand of yours, 788 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,600 and every time it came up, you know, to give me a thing, 789 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,160 I duck my head? We could have quite a reasonable conversation. 790 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,800 He wasn't pompous 791 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,480 but there was a touch of the Captain Mainwarings about him, there really was, 792 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:52,120 and he could be prickly. He decided, "There's a young punk and I'm going to tell him off." 793 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:57,200 In the end he liked me better and eventually we became friends. 794 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:05,560 There had been 16 years of success in The Two Ronnies, Porridge and Open All Hours. 795 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,680 But in the '80s Barker realised his magic touch was failing. 796 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,880 The sitcom Magnificent Evans about a Welsh photographer did badly. 797 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:18,720 It's not working out right at all, this. Is it the light? No, it's not the light. 798 00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:22,200 Ronnie came to see me privately when I was controller of BBC One, 799 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,240 he asked to see me privately. 800 00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:29,920 I thought, "Oh, there's a problem. Doesn't like the script, doesn't want to work with Ronnie." 801 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,800 I didn't know what to expect. 802 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,920 And he came in and shut the door and said, 803 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:38,320 "I haven't told anybody else, but I'm going to retire. I've had enough." 804 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,280 He said, "I just want to plan the next year. 805 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,920 "I want to know what you want me to do, 806 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,400 "this is what I'd like to do, can we just plan it now? 807 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:52,440 "Then I've got that banked in my mind and then that's it, finished." 808 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,160 He was running low on ideas 809 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,120 and wrote Clarence under the name Bob Ferris 810 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,520 about a shortsighted removal man 811 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,840 recycling a character and a script from his time at ITV, 812 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,680 some 16 years earlier. 813 00:49:07,240 --> 00:49:09,520 Look at the old Chelsea pensioner over there. 814 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,520 What's that? Nice day for the Coronation, isn't it? 815 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,320 I love to see them old Chelsea pensioners, don't you? 816 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,960 I though I might nip off and have a look at the procession. 817 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,080 He absolutely had his life balance. 818 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,600 Family came first, theatre came next, 819 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,920 and I think that is why when he eventually retired, 820 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,640 I don't honestly think it worried him. 821 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,000 The rest of us old troopers go on as long as we possibly can, 822 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,440 but he'd done everything he wanted to do. That's what he said. 823 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,320 Stop! Those are goldfish. 824 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,600 Oh, yes, that is another thing about you women. 825 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,600 You're all soft when it comes to animals, you're all soft. 826 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,480 Go on, flush them down the lav. 827 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,840 I will certainly not flush them down the lav! 828 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,080 PHONE RINGS 829 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,800 Here he comes now. Now we've done half the packing he's turned up. 830 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,840 It's just a lot of Mr Magoo jokes recycled, 831 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,720 and almost that form is dying, really, 832 00:50:13,720 --> 00:50:16,560 by the time that comes along. 833 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:21,440 The trunk and suitcases are going with the master and mistress to Rangoon. They aren't to be touched. 834 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,680 Righto. I'll just move this standard lamp out me way. 835 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,960 What are you doing? Put me down. Who's this then? 836 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,000 Somehow he began to crumble, I think, 837 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,240 when he was robbed of really good writing. 838 00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:40,120 Either his writing or somebody else's writing. 839 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,640 He couldn't quite lift that material. 840 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,400 It's Miss Angela. Do please put her down. 841 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,840 She's going through an unhappy time. 842 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,680 Oh, dear. I'm sorry, no harm done. 843 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,880 I was just guessing your weight. 9 stone 5. 844 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,960 I'm never wrong. Used to lifting wardrobes. 845 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,400 There is something faintly depressing, actually, 846 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,240 about those late sitcom vehicles, 847 00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:04,280 and the absence of laughs 848 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,680 and the broadness of the characters in them. 849 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,360 Look at that. My old granny had a piece just like that. 850 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,240 You will be careful, won't you? 851 00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:15,840 Careful? I've got hands like a surgeon, me. 852 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,120 What's that? I cut myself. 853 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:20,840 There is always a dip, 854 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,000 there is always a point when you have been around a long time, 855 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,200 everybody loved you, and then they're kind of... Not bored, 856 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,480 but you're the big guy, nobody is going to give you plaudits. 857 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,320 And then comes the next phase, as did happen with Ronnie Barker, 858 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,600 finally when he gets the full old man glory stuff. 859 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,880 I don't know whether... I wish he hadn't retired 860 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,920 and I think if he had decided to just reduce his workload and keep going, 861 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,400 I'm certain there would have been another great sitcom. 862 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,440 By that stage he'd already had a bit of a scare, 863 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,040 a few alarm bells about his weight. 864 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,840 He had been told he'd got to lose weight. 865 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,240 And he was determined that wasn't going to happen to him 866 00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:01,960 and Tommy Cooper had gone around that time as well. 867 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,920 He wasn't just going to keep performing until he dropped. 868 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:09,040 So it was... I applauded him for it at the time. 869 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,960 I thought that decision was very laudable. 870 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,880 Quite surprised, I have to say, 871 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:21,280 when he then came back to do Churchill's butler much later on. 872 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,120 Ronnie was tempted back with a small part in a feature film 873 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,040 alongside the great Albert Finney. 874 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:32,520 The Gathering Storm told the story of Winston Churchill's pre-war years. 875 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,080 Ronnie Barker played his long-suffering butler, Inches. 876 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,320 Mr Churchill, sir? Mr Churchill? 877 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,040 It is a drunk. 878 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,520 She's here, sir. She's here. 879 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:43,640 What? 880 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,280 The taxi's coming down the drive. What on earth are you talking about? 881 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,880 Mrs Churchill, sir. She's here? Yes, sir. 882 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,960 Ronnie had retired, I think quite a few years... 883 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,040 I think four or five at least, maybe more. 884 00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,480 He was running his antique shop with Joy, his wife, in Gloucestershire. 885 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:05,000 And I went to meet him and he just... We got on, I suppose. 886 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,760 And listen, anyone... 887 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:12,040 To have the opportunity to work with Finney, you don't turn it down. 888 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,080 Out. I'm in the middle of a letter. 889 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,280 Telephone, sir. Out. The man says it's important, sir. 890 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,040 Get him to call back later. Really important. 891 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,600 Who is it? Major Sankey, sir. Who the hell is Major Sankey? 892 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,560 One of your constituency workers. I think you should talk to him. 893 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,720 What, now? Yes, Mr Churchill, he's been ringing all morning. All right. 894 00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:31,760 You're the most irritating clod that ever walked the earth. 895 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,800 I was in the middle of a letter to my wife. 896 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,920 Now I have completely lost my train of thought. Idiot. 897 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,680 Have you no sensitivity whatsoever? 898 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,080 There is no need to be insulting, sir. I was merely passing on a message. 899 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,160 Shut up. How dare you? 900 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,360 Tell the girl to put the call through up here. 901 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,680 She's gone to lunch. Do it yourself. 902 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,640 I am not acquainted with the mechanism, sir. 903 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,040 Bloody hell. You are very rude to me. 904 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:56,920 You are very rude to me, sir. 905 00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,080 Yes. But I'm a great man. 906 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,040 You're a stupid old bugger. 907 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,400 He stood out because not only could he just do the job, 908 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:07,800 it was effortless. 909 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,920 It's like the old thing of the tightrope walker 910 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,680 that can walk along and do a trick fall, 911 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,000 because it makes it look like it's more difficult. 912 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,440 Ronnie could just do anything he wanted to on that acting tightrope. 913 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,520 Mr Inches, I think a glass of champagne might be in order. 914 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,720 With respect, sir, I think we might save that for happier days. 915 00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:28,960 It was a small part, and a return to his serious acting roots. 916 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:33,360 Just a year later the same team travelled to Italy to film My House In Umbria, 917 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,960 another straight role for one of Britain's funniest actors, now in his twilight years. 918 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,640 Well, the situation, as it were, my staying here... 919 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,920 Umbria was hard, it was hard for all of us. It was incredibly hot, 920 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,360 we were in the middle of Tuscany, 921 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,200 and the temperatures were unbelievably hot, 922 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,240 you've got lights as well, 923 00:54:55,240 --> 00:54:58,480 and they were wearing quite heavy clothes, 924 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,560 because some of it was meant to be set in the winter. 925 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:06,600 I think everybody found it tough and I think Ronnie did as well. But he never complained. 926 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,440 I was wondering whether it's not time for me to pack my bags. 927 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,440 'He said he wasn't going to do anything after The Gathering Storm. 928 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:17,000 'I slightly bullied him coming back. But I'm pleased I did. 929 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,840 'He was happy. We found him a nice little villa, not grand, 930 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,000 "but we used to go round and barbecue in the evenings 931 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,320 "and he was always pleased to see me," 932 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,080 wearing his Panama hat 933 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,400 and sitting under an umbrella and doing a bit of barbecuing with Joy. 934 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,080 I think he enjoyed the time out in Italy. 935 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:41,240 He's no fool. He knows Francine will be jealous. 936 00:55:41,240 --> 00:55:45,000 I doubt very much whether he'll ever come back. 937 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:50,480 On the other hand, he may very well come back next month. 938 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,520 I may be dead next month, 939 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,160 the moon may have crashed into the earth, 940 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,360 who knows what dreadful things may come to pass? 941 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:03,880 But at the moment I'm happy. What else matters? 942 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,920 Carpe diem. 943 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,560 I am never really sure what that means. 944 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:12,280 Seize the day, embrace the present, 945 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,360 enjoy life while you've got the chance. 946 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,200 Ronnie Barker passed away just two years later, 947 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:25,840 a master of comedy, at home on stage, television, and big screen. 948 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,720 I wrote a book about him recently, 949 00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:34,760 and Ronnie Corbett said that in 40 years they'd never had an argument, 950 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:39,160 and that was my experience. He was a delight to work with. 951 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,280 Your game, m'lady. 952 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,560 When you look at the 20th century in terms of what we laughed at 953 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,120 and what brought us all together 954 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,920 and what gave us a wonderful warm feeling of being part of the same community, 955 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,360 sharing a sense of humour, 956 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,840 Ronnie Barker will be without question 957 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,840 a member of a small and elite group. 958 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,000 I have to keep my hands at room temperature 959 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:05,040 in case I ever have to decant any of that sparkling vintage of a full-bodied white, 960 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,080 known locally as Nurse Gladys Emmanuel. 961 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:12,360 He certainly would rank alongside 962 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,240 people like Spike Milligan and Eric Morecambe. 963 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,760 I'm the only bloke that keeps the tone of this place up. 964 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,720 Those monologues, tongue-tripping lines and everything, 965 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,760 I didn't know anybody who was as good as he was. 966 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,680 Good ovening. 967 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,880 Horo is the nows at ton. 968 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,320 At the Primo Minister's country household, Choqours... 969 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:44,640 He was in the best sense a comic actor where you can put the "comic" in brackets. 970 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,920 He was a terrific actor. 971 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,960 Dreams is your escape, ain't they? No locked doors, no barriers, no frontiers. 972 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:53,840 Dreams is freedom. 973 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,240 There aren't many people who slot into that kind of tradition, 974 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,320 because he could do so much more than that too. 975 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,920 But I think that's essentially what he is. 976 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:07,000 He was a great actor who was very good at comedy. 977 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:11,400 And we've just been told the police are desperately seeking the man 978 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,000 who steals the ends of news items. 979 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,560 The man is described as tall and grey-haired with a very big... 980 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,240 That's all we have time for this evening so it's good night from me. 981 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,440 And it's good night from him. Good night. Good night. 982 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:36,480 Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd