1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,480 This is how we always come to work. We're here again. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,080 Oh, dearie me, remember this place? I do, yes. 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,400 I wish they'd have got me a buggy, it seems so unfair on you. 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,960 I mean, normally Ricky carries me as well. 5 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,840 So here we are. It's the studio where everything happens. 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,800 You can get off now, all the arsing about. 7 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:33,040 This is a studio, the pie factory where all the magic happens. 8 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,280 The magic. Shall we go in, darling? Oh, go on, Craig. 9 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,240 That was... 10 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:52,440 HE LAUGHS 11 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,760 I would come to work, arrive at eight in the morning, 12 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,800 laugh pretty much nonstop until seven in the evening, 13 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,360 and go home exhausted from laughing. 14 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,360 RICKY: How can I work with this? 15 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:09,520 It wouldn't bother me if I never worked again. It wouldn't bother me. 16 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,800 I couldn't go out on anything higher. 17 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,560 There's been a... Aargh...the game! 18 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:18,400 BLEEP 19 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:21,760 You're having that, Dave? 20 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,640 Ah, the cage might be open but the beast is asleep. 21 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:31,640 Beast, my arse. 22 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,720 It's just been one of the happiest jobs that I've ever had. 23 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,800 I'm going to give you one now, Norm. 24 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:40,480 I wish you would! 25 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,160 You silly bugger. 26 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,120 THEY LAUGH 27 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,200 We're not used to doing interviews, sorry. 28 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,440 We're not good at ourselves, are we? 29 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,720 In their only ever major television interview, 30 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,880 the publicity-shy stars and writers of the Royle Family 31 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:12,840 broke their silence to reveal the story behind this great British sitcom. 32 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,280 I'd be surprised...as surprised as I was that anybody would want to watch 33 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,000 the drivel that we come out with on the Royle Family... Yes. 34 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,040 ..that they'd want to watch the drivel 35 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,920 that comes out of us in real life. That comes out of us. 36 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,800 I know everyone will be sat going "Oh, that's just Dave and Denise isn't it?" 37 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,480 Who are they being this week? 38 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,640 They probably think we're more simple in real life. 39 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,560 Yeah! "They've never wrote that!" 40 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,640 But... But it makes you understand why we haven't done an interview before. 41 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:49,440 It's over 20 years since the sofa-loving layabouts 42 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,400 entered our living rooms. 43 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,080 With three series and five specials, 44 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,320 their unique style of kitchen sink comedy has earned 45 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,800 the Royle Family an army of fans and a multitude of awards. 46 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,560 Is my tea in the oven, Mam? No. 47 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,200 I'm not doing anybody's tea tonight. 48 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,680 Oooh! What? 49 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,040 We're having chippy! 50 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:20,080 Get a pen and paper, Antony, you'll have to write this down. 51 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,120 Ooh, I'll have me oodle, oodle, oodle, 52 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,920 I'll have fish, chips and mushy peas. 53 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,040 Most families have got someone who's funny in it. 54 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,880 In ours, in the Royle Family, it's the dad. 55 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:40,120 But what we wanted to do was not do typical gags like duh-duh-duh-gag, you know, like that. 56 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:45,560 So the comedy comes more out of the personality and... 57 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,400 Character. And the character. 58 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,160 I just had it in my head that it was 59 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,280 a half-hour slice of that family, 60 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:54,840 um... 61 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:01,120 ..and so you actually stayed with them for the real half-hour. 62 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,120 I knew me and Caroline would laugh at it 63 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,560 because we've always laughed at the same things, we always found... 64 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:12,200 ..every day we'll talk on the phone about what her mum has said or my dad has said, 65 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,120 or somebody we've seen in the shop has said, 66 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:20,040 and it's always just little bits of conversation and stuff that we find funny. 67 00:04:20,280 --> 00:04:26,240 So I knew that I'd find it funny but, you know, it's a brave gamble 68 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:32,520 to think that the whole nation would enjoy it as much as we would. 69 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,880 Dave? Hmm? 70 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,880 Why don't you take your coat off? 71 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,400 I'm all right. 72 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,000 You may as well take it off, Dave. 73 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,000 It's all right, I'm OK. 74 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:51,760 You should just take it off. 75 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,360 I'm fine with it on. 76 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,400 Take your jacket off, Dave. 77 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,840 No, I'm OK, Barbara. 78 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,760 You won't feel the benefit, you know, when you go out. 79 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,280 That doesn't matter. 80 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,120 Why don't you just take it off? 81 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,160 Take your bloody jacket off, will you, Dave? 82 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,680 Bloody hell. Bloody hell's right. 83 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,760 'I thought it was absolutely fantastic. 84 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,600 'I thought it was a real departure and a brilliant idea.' 85 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:27,120 I'm sure you'll get people saying things like 86 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,520 it was rather like a little half-hour Play For Today set in a room. 87 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,640 It was absolutely marvellous, a glimpse of their lives, these people. 88 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,680 It manages to be on the one hand 89 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,160 something that's terribly naturalistic about life 90 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,520 on a council housing estate, 91 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,360 and yet at the same time it's mythic, it's epic, it's surreal, 92 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,240 it's all those things that that kind of life is, below the surface. 93 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,360 Because it seems natural, you can form the impression it's improvised, 94 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,600 so it's people sitting on a couch improvising their stuff. 95 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,720 No, it's not people sitting on a couch, every camera move was well thought through 96 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,720 and every single line has been well thought through. It is art. It is brilliant art. 97 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,600 Who do you think is the oldest, her or Gloria Hunniford, Jim? 98 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,720 Jim! What? Who would you think's the eldest, her or Gloria Hunniford? 99 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,800 I couldn't give a shiny shite. Bloody hell, Barb. 100 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:27,160 You can't just watch one, you know, so you'd come back and then you'd watch an episode 101 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,120 and think oh, what's the time, I can just watch another one, 102 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,800 because you just want to absorb it in. 103 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:39,000 The first time I saw it, I remember just seeing so many parallels 104 00:06:39,280 --> 00:06:41,400 with my own family sitting watching television, 105 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,480 it's something that we all do. It just had an immediate resonance. 106 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,200 See that's what's wrong with British television. 107 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,360 Too many women with their own bloody programmes, aren't there? 108 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,520 You got bloody Lorraine, bloody Trisha, 109 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,320 bloody Vanessa, bloody Esther, bloody Oprah, 110 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:56,960 bloody Ricki bloody Lake, 111 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,800 and they're all talking bollocks. 112 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,000 You've only got to sit in the house to hear women talk bloody bollocks. 113 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,160 You don't want that on the box, do you? 114 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,360 'It's about observation. It's about ordinary people and what they do in the house.' 115 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,760 At some time or another, we all sit in the house 116 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,520 and watch the telly and say, look at... I do particularly. "Look at him, 117 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,440 "as if anyone'd carry on like that. Look at the state of him!" 118 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,160 And you know particularly when they have these fashion shows and designers come on the shows 119 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,160 like This Morning and they got these women in the dresses, 120 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,600 and they say this was £100 and I say, look at the state of her for 100 quid! 121 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,720 If I couldn't get someone dressed better for a fiver, I'll show my arse on the town hall steps! 122 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,320 Stuff like that. So yes, we all have a little go at the telly, we all have a little moan and whatever. 123 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,280 This is the one day of the year we all watch the bloody television 124 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,760 and look at the shite they put on. 125 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,720 Well, that's going for a Burton. 126 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,840 Ooh, get off, Jim, 127 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,720 I liked him, Noel Crinkley-Bottom. 128 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,720 You do whatever you like, you don't care about your family. 129 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:01,680 Oh, Crinkley-Bottom my arse. 130 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,680 Craig and Caroline have got a similar background, you know, 131 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,120 both kind of working class, both obviously come from the North. 132 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,040 They're both in tune with the 133 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:18,840 oddities of people, and the things that people say 134 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,760 that pass most people by or pass a lot of people by, 135 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,080 but that when you hear them, you think oh, that's funny. 136 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,160 We'd often talk about what was happening with each other's families 137 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,680 and draw in from those, and bring those into the story. 138 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:38,120 I'm sure that Craig and Caroline's family, as well as mine, 139 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,800 tried to find the bits that are them. 140 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,360 Is there any chance of a brew here? 141 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,560 Well, our Antony isn't here, he's gone out with Emma. 142 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:52,920 Well, what time will he be back? I'm bloody gagging here. I don't know, he won't be late. 143 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,080 'We wanted to make it sound as real or, you know,' 144 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,760 like they were real people, but that is what happens. 145 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,400 People do... Apart from us two, we've not paused once during this. 146 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,960 I can't work out why we're sat so close on this sofa, 147 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,680 I've never seen owt so stupid in my life. 148 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,360 She's nearly in my bloody pocket. 149 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,880 Er...yeah, we wanted to keep... 150 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:24,000 We wanted to keep all the... all the natural moments 151 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,840 that you normally have in a family sat around. 152 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,960 Hey, did you see Dale Winton's home in OK magazine? 153 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,480 Oh, it was tidy, it was just like a show home. 154 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:37,000 Dale Winton, my arse. 155 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,920 He wouldn't say no, Jim. 156 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,440 I've given up trying to keep a show home with this lot. 157 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,000 That's not his real home, he's had all sorts of people in to do that. 158 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,240 I like Dale Winton, me. 159 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,360 OTHERS: Oooh! 160 00:09:50,680 --> 00:09:54,400 When we were writing early on, if we write a good line, we had the day off then. 161 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,080 Yeah, we tend to have a bit of a break for a day. 162 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,520 And most days we find we have to watch Loose Women, don't we? 163 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,400 Well, we start off the day, Jeremy Kyle's on. 164 00:10:03,560 --> 00:10:05,920 We either write that kind of... 165 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:11,760 So we've got an office near me but more often than not, Caroline will say, 166 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,600 she'll do like two days in the office and then you'll get a call going, 167 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,680 "Erm...is there any chance we can work at ours today? 168 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,440 "Only I've got such and such a body coming round." 169 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:26,680 There never is and we know there never is, so we've got to go round to hers where Jeremy Kyle's on. 170 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,960 So we got to watch a bit of that, and then we sit down 171 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,160 and we'll chat about X Factor or last night's TV for a good hour or so. 172 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,280 Or slag other sitcoms off. 173 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,440 Until Loose Women come on... 174 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,200 No, no, when we get the chips and gravy. 175 00:10:42,560 --> 00:10:48,400 Ah yes, we go to Sauselito's or Spoilt Four Choice, what a great name, for our sarnies. 176 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,080 That's a typical working day. 177 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,240 And then we tend to do like half an hour and finish at three. Yes. 178 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,700 Something like that. 179 00:10:58,700 --> 00:11:00,900 WITH MOUTH FULL: No, I'm thinking of you, 180 00:11:01,180 --> 00:11:03,620 I'm not taking Bella Emberg down the bloody aisle. 181 00:11:06,340 --> 00:11:12,140 Slumping onto our screens in 1998, the Royle Family broke every rule in the sitcom book, 182 00:11:12,380 --> 00:11:16,500 no witty one-liners, no canned laughter, no protracted plots. 183 00:11:19,980 --> 00:11:21,740 Here you are. Aww... 184 00:11:21,940 --> 00:11:23,660 HE CHUCKLES 185 00:11:23,940 --> 00:11:27,260 Hey, I'm not marrying you now. Oh, I'm not bothered. 186 00:11:27,500 --> 00:11:30,220 Meeting in the early '90s on a Stockport radio show, 187 00:11:30,460 --> 00:11:33,140 these best friends formed a writing partnership 188 00:11:33,380 --> 00:11:36,620 that would bring critical acclaim, countless awards, 189 00:11:36,900 --> 00:11:39,860 and a series that would change British sitcoms forever. 190 00:11:40,220 --> 00:11:45,620 When I first met Craig, on the very first day I met him, I went home and I wrote in my diary, 191 00:11:45,980 --> 00:11:50,580 "I have just met the funniest man in the world," because on the way home I'd run into... 192 00:11:51,980 --> 00:11:54,660 No, honestly, it was about Craig. 193 00:11:54,900 --> 00:11:59,140 Ah. I wrote "I've met the funniest man in the world." 194 00:11:59,340 --> 00:12:00,660 Ah. 195 00:12:00,980 --> 00:12:05,620 Do you remember when you used to be funny? Yeah, it was a long, long time ago. 196 00:12:05,980 --> 00:12:09,900 Hey, Dad, what was that other quiz show that you used to really like with... 197 00:12:11,100 --> 00:12:12,940 Oh, what's his name... Thingy... 198 00:12:13,140 --> 00:12:15,380 Roy Walker. Oh, Catchphrase. 199 00:12:15,540 --> 00:12:17,460 Ah-ha-ha! 200 00:12:17,740 --> 00:12:19,980 AS ROY WALKER: Say what you see. If you see it, say it." 201 00:12:20,220 --> 00:12:22,660 It's a good answer, but it's not right. 202 00:12:22,900 --> 00:12:25,940 Say what you see. If you see it, say it. 203 00:12:26,140 --> 00:12:28,380 HE CHUCKLES 204 00:12:28,660 --> 00:12:31,780 Say what you see. If you see it, say it. 205 00:12:31,940 --> 00:12:33,140 CHUCKLES 206 00:12:36,260 --> 00:12:38,460 Say what you see. If you see it, say it. 207 00:12:38,620 --> 00:12:40,220 Dave, stop it. 208 00:12:40,380 --> 00:12:41,940 I'm only saying what I see. 209 00:12:42,180 --> 00:12:44,620 But you're not seeing it, so stop saying it. 210 00:12:44,780 --> 00:12:47,060 'What was great when I met Craig,' 211 00:12:47,340 --> 00:12:51,100 Um...was he was a painter and decorator... 212 00:12:52,660 --> 00:12:54,900 ..and anyway we were... I was on the radio! 213 00:12:55,220 --> 00:13:00,900 We were working on the radio and then we got sacked off the radio, so I said to Craig, 214 00:13:01,220 --> 00:13:05,540 "Well, I'll do an act if you take me around in the car, we'll halve the money." 215 00:13:05,860 --> 00:13:09,780 Craig wasn't sure at all and he went, "I'll leave me brush in turps." 216 00:13:11,660 --> 00:13:15,260 I've got this car right, it's a Metro and one time it had this 217 00:13:15,540 --> 00:13:18,060 like rattling under the bonnet area at the front. 218 00:13:18,380 --> 00:13:23,460 So I thought oh, and I took it to this car mechanic's and I said, "Oh, hi, here's my car." 219 00:13:23,780 --> 00:13:28,460 He was really nice looking but you shouldn't go out with a car mechanic because, and this is true right, 220 00:13:28,780 --> 00:13:32,460 even when they wash their hands with Swarfega there's still stuff under their nails, 221 00:13:32,780 --> 00:13:37,380 and if you're a woman going out with him, you get a womb infection, but anyway... 222 00:13:37,580 --> 00:13:39,380 and a nurse told me that! 223 00:13:39,620 --> 00:13:42,540 I remember when she did stand up and everyone went, 224 00:13:42,860 --> 00:13:46,500 Caroline's new character is brilliant, I love it, that new one she's doing. 225 00:13:46,740 --> 00:13:49,540 I went, that ain't no character, that, that's Caroline. 226 00:13:49,780 --> 00:13:51,940 That's her, that's what you got, you know. 227 00:13:52,180 --> 00:13:54,660 This friend of mine, when she's with the girls and everything 228 00:13:54,860 --> 00:13:56,780 and she's sober, she's lovely. 229 00:13:57,100 --> 00:14:00,780 But when she's had a few drinks she's a nightmare, and she says this to lads. 230 00:14:01,020 --> 00:14:03,660 Say you're some lads and you're coming past. She goes, 231 00:14:03,940 --> 00:14:07,420 "Oh, hey, look I'm having a party in my pants, do you want to come?" 232 00:14:07,700 --> 00:14:10,140 I remember in the Fast Show when we did Roy and Renee, 233 00:14:10,380 --> 00:14:14,500 one line used to... And it still slaughters me every time I see it. 234 00:14:14,820 --> 00:14:20,740 We're on a flight and she's talking - she's Renee, and she's talking about the cabin crew. 235 00:14:22,620 --> 00:14:28,100 When we got on the plane, I said to Roy, "Oh, don't the air hostesses look lovely in those posh uniforms?" 236 00:14:28,340 --> 00:14:31,900 and you know what Roy said, he said, "They're all caked in make-up." 237 00:14:32,060 --> 00:14:34,220 What did you say, Roy? 238 00:14:34,420 --> 00:14:36,540 They're all caked in make-up. 239 00:14:36,820 --> 00:14:41,540 He's really observant, Roy, you know, he sees everything visually. 240 00:14:41,700 --> 00:14:43,180 But my friend Gloria, 241 00:14:43,460 --> 00:14:46,100 she said that pilots marry air hostesses 242 00:14:46,340 --> 00:14:50,860 and I said, "Some of them do, Gloria, but some of them are gay." 243 00:14:51,220 --> 00:14:54,660 "What did I say, Roy?" And I go, "Well, they're all poofs and lezzies, aren't they?" 244 00:14:54,980 --> 00:15:00,860 And she went, "I didn't say that, Roy," and she says, "Oooh, I hope you crash." 245 00:15:01,900 --> 00:15:06,340 Right, and it's just that sums up Caroline's sense of humour, "Ooh, I hope you crash, Roy." 246 00:15:06,660 --> 00:15:12,580 Not her, not the cabin crew, not the pilot, no-one else on the plane just me, right. 247 00:15:13,980 --> 00:15:17,420 That's the humour that I love about Caroline. 248 00:15:17,660 --> 00:15:22,100 Perrier water, just like water that, you know, but fizzy. 249 00:15:22,340 --> 00:15:25,620 It's expensive though, isn't it, it costs nowt out of the tap. 250 00:15:25,820 --> 00:15:29,500 Brown bread, very posh! Keeps you regular though, doesn't it? 251 00:15:29,740 --> 00:15:33,260 Beef... Ah, do you remember the beef crisis? Ooh... 252 00:15:33,500 --> 00:15:35,700 Anti-dandruff shampoo, is that for you? 253 00:15:35,980 --> 00:15:38,940 Ah, it doesn't matter, nowt wrong with a scabby scalp. 254 00:15:39,100 --> 00:15:41,620 KY jelly, bit of vaginal dryness? 255 00:15:44,060 --> 00:15:45,460 £8.18, please. 256 00:15:45,700 --> 00:15:47,860 We would always wait for weeks and weeks 257 00:15:48,100 --> 00:15:51,060 for Caroline and Craig to send in their sketches on the Fast Show. 258 00:15:51,300 --> 00:15:54,300 They would always be the last to come in and they'd always say, 259 00:15:54,580 --> 00:15:56,740 "Oh, yeah, we've got loads of stuff, great new stuff," 260 00:15:57,060 --> 00:16:01,460 and it would turn out to be about four pages and you'd think, "God, is this all you've done?" 261 00:16:01,740 --> 00:16:04,780 And you'd look at this checkout counter girl on the page 262 00:16:05,140 --> 00:16:09,020 and you'd think, not much to it, only about six lines, but in those six lines, 263 00:16:09,340 --> 00:16:14,500 they were able to sum up the whole character of the girl and the people she was dealing with. 264 00:16:14,740 --> 00:16:19,860 So they're very good at getting a lot into a very, very small space. 265 00:16:20,100 --> 00:16:23,740 My initial memories of working with Caroline was the kind of 266 00:16:23,980 --> 00:16:27,540 level of realism she brought to her characters. 267 00:16:27,700 --> 00:16:29,180 Our characters were sort of... 268 00:16:29,500 --> 00:16:33,100 I mean apart from Ted and Ralph, which again wasn't initially created by us, 269 00:16:33,460 --> 00:16:39,300 her characters were quite real and didn't rely necessarily on gags or catchphrases. 270 00:16:43,100 --> 00:16:45,980 Who's got a question for Lorraine Kelly? 271 00:16:46,140 --> 00:16:47,500 Who'd like to ask... Roy, 272 00:16:47,740 --> 00:16:49,260 what would you like to ask Lorraine? 273 00:16:49,420 --> 00:16:50,940 When I look at you in the morning, 274 00:16:51,180 --> 00:16:54,740 I'm in a kind of a dream world, you know? 275 00:16:54,980 --> 00:16:58,260 I look at my television and say I feel like crawling into my telly, 276 00:16:58,500 --> 00:17:00,420 getting hold of her and giving her one. 277 00:17:02,740 --> 00:17:05,260 Well, thank you for sharing that with me. 278 00:17:05,500 --> 00:17:08,900 Oh, Roy, that's not a nice thing to say. 279 00:17:09,180 --> 00:17:12,460 She was fantastic as Mrs Merton, and what it showed glimpses of 280 00:17:12,780 --> 00:17:18,020 was the kind of warmth that both Caroline and Craig bring to all their stuff. 281 00:17:18,260 --> 00:17:21,620 We were trying to do something slightly edgy and dynamic, 282 00:17:21,900 --> 00:17:25,780 and of course Caroline's, "Sod that, you know, let's get the old people in." 283 00:17:26,140 --> 00:17:30,460 Do you see Roy there, with the glasses? Have you ever had a fight with him? 284 00:17:32,500 --> 00:17:34,660 Just answer me, yes or no. 285 00:17:34,860 --> 00:17:36,700 Of course not. No. 286 00:17:36,860 --> 00:17:37,980 You liar, Roy. 287 00:17:41,340 --> 00:17:46,540 The brilliance of it was Caroline's ability to ad lib under that huge pressure because the guests 288 00:17:46,780 --> 00:17:50,340 would never know what they were being asked, 289 00:17:50,540 --> 00:17:53,420 they were never prepared on the show. 290 00:17:53,700 --> 00:17:57,020 We would say, "I'm sorry we can't tell you any of the questions," 291 00:17:57,260 --> 00:17:59,460 and of course we'd write the questions 292 00:17:59,780 --> 00:18:04,540 but we had no idea how they'd respond and Caroline had to respond to their response. 293 00:18:04,820 --> 00:18:08,460 What about the guy who beat you last time? 294 00:18:08,780 --> 00:18:13,500 Statistically, he was obviously a better fighter than me. Do you think so? Statistically. 295 00:18:13,780 --> 00:18:19,660 Were you are surprised as we all were when he came from behind and he licked you in the ring? 296 00:18:19,860 --> 00:18:21,500 Were you surprised? 297 00:18:24,700 --> 00:18:27,220 The thing about... Were you? 298 00:18:30,380 --> 00:18:31,860 Yeah, it didn't go down well. 299 00:18:32,020 --> 00:18:34,500 He didn't get it. I wonder why. 300 00:18:34,740 --> 00:18:37,220 He didn't. He did get it. Oh, do you think? 301 00:18:37,460 --> 00:18:40,140 Of course he got it, but he didn't... 302 00:18:40,340 --> 00:18:41,980 He didn't appreciate it. 303 00:18:42,220 --> 00:18:44,300 No, he didn't. You wouldn't do, would you? 304 00:18:44,540 --> 00:18:48,980 But that is where she's best, Caroline, 305 00:18:49,180 --> 00:18:52,860 in that kind of situation and I knew she was secretly loving it. 306 00:18:54,980 --> 00:18:59,300 Oh, come on, Chris, Chris Eubank. Come on, 307 00:18:59,460 --> 00:19:01,140 it's a chat show. 308 00:19:03,820 --> 00:19:06,260 So what did you feel about that? 309 00:19:06,540 --> 00:19:09,020 I don't want to bring back unhappy memories. 310 00:19:10,540 --> 00:19:12,620 You're going to punch me, aren't you? 311 00:19:16,700 --> 00:19:20,980 They were extraordinary times. Caroline was getting increasingly, um... 312 00:19:21,260 --> 00:19:23,500 I suppose, just fed up with doing Mrs Merton, 313 00:19:23,740 --> 00:19:25,980 even though the show was getting bigger and bigger. 314 00:19:26,300 --> 00:19:30,460 She was absolutely fantastic at it but the pressures were too much and she wanted out. 315 00:19:30,620 --> 00:19:32,060 One of the great steps forward 316 00:19:32,340 --> 00:19:34,540 in the sense of being able to do the Royle Family 317 00:19:34,820 --> 00:19:37,460 was her ability to write and perform without that pressure. 318 00:19:37,740 --> 00:19:41,540 We've had a great time tonight, haven't we, Chris? 319 00:19:41,700 --> 00:19:43,020 Lovely. 320 00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:48,700 First time I remember Caroline talking about it was when we were doing 321 00:19:49,020 --> 00:19:54,900 the Mrs Merton Show at the time and saying can we do this working-class sitcom, 322 00:19:56,020 --> 00:20:00,380 which would be people like your dad and my mum in it. 323 00:20:00,620 --> 00:20:03,740 Yeah. And not much happening and everything. 324 00:20:04,100 --> 00:20:07,980 And to be honest, I was worried because we were doing the Mrs Merton Show 325 00:20:08,220 --> 00:20:12,300 and it was the first time we'd ever got off the minimum wage, wasn't it? 326 00:20:12,660 --> 00:20:18,500 And it was like, great, and I thought, bloody hell, why does she want to do this now? 327 00:20:18,820 --> 00:20:22,460 I was just getting a kitchen done and whatever, so I was going home saying 328 00:20:22,740 --> 00:20:27,980 "Now, look, love, forget the Formica worktop, we're having granite," 329 00:20:28,220 --> 00:20:30,180 and then go in work and she's saying, 330 00:20:30,460 --> 00:20:33,420 "Well, I think we want to stop the Mrs Merton and do this new thing." 331 00:20:33,740 --> 00:20:37,660 I'd be going back home and going, "What's wrong with Formica, come on?" 332 00:20:37,980 --> 00:20:43,900 But also Caroline threatened not to do another Mrs Merton Show because we'd done the third series, I think, 333 00:20:44,740 --> 00:20:46,740 and she said, if you want a fourth series... 334 00:20:46,980 --> 00:20:50,060 If you don't do this, I'm not going to do another Mrs Merton Show. 335 00:20:50,220 --> 00:20:54,460 So that kind of convinced them, 336 00:20:54,740 --> 00:20:58,580 strong-arm tactics, but fortunately, it worked. 337 00:21:04,620 --> 00:21:08,820 I remember thinking, how have they filmed this? Why aren't there three cameras switching around? 338 00:21:09,140 --> 00:21:13,020 It seemed so naturalistic. I couldn't work out how they'd edited things 339 00:21:13,220 --> 00:21:15,180 and achieved that degree of realism. 340 00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:18,980 It did show that you can do comedy without playing it in front of an audience. 341 00:21:19,300 --> 00:21:23,980 You don't have to have a screaming laughter track, or people sliding down a hill in a bathtub, 342 00:21:24,220 --> 00:21:26,460 you can just let it be about people. 343 00:21:26,660 --> 00:21:30,180 929-1246, whose number's that? 344 00:21:30,300 --> 00:21:32,100 It's Mary. 345 00:21:32,340 --> 00:21:34,420 You've been ringing bloody Mary next door? 346 00:21:34,580 --> 00:21:36,460 If you shouted she could hear you. 347 00:21:36,740 --> 00:21:39,460 She can hear YOU! Give it a rest, the pair of you. 348 00:21:39,740 --> 00:21:43,020 Rest my arse, it's £2.50 phoning next door. 349 00:21:43,260 --> 00:21:46,460 I mean, she's in and out of here all day like a bloody yo-yo. 350 00:21:46,620 --> 00:21:48,420 I'll put you a serving hatch in. 351 00:21:50,260 --> 00:21:52,700 You're tight as a crab's arse, you, Dad. 352 00:21:52,860 --> 00:21:56,260 Crab's arse, my arse, it's £2.50. 353 00:21:56,500 --> 00:21:58,460 It's a good job she's cured her stutter. 354 00:22:02,780 --> 00:22:07,620 I'm a little bit tighter than Jim and a little bit scruffier in real life than Jim. 355 00:22:07,860 --> 00:22:10,460 The main ingredients is the lines, obviously. 356 00:22:10,580 --> 00:22:11,780 Maybe in my defence, 357 00:22:12,060 --> 00:22:13,740 I put a lot of sort of business in... 358 00:22:17,860 --> 00:22:20,860 ..do all that. It's a nice little fill-in for me, you know, 359 00:22:21,140 --> 00:22:26,420 but then Jim does lose his temper and he can't just tell him off. 360 00:22:26,780 --> 00:22:32,660 Say he's telling Antony off, he wouldn't say, "Antony, why don't you get your hair cut, son?" 361 00:22:32,980 --> 00:22:38,900 I'd say, "Hey, why don't...why don't you get your hair cut, you scruffy get, hey?" 362 00:22:39,220 --> 00:22:41,180 I'd seen Ricky 363 00:22:41,460 --> 00:22:46,420 in Raining Stones and it's a scene where he has no money 364 00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:51,380 and then his daughter gives him £5 and he says, "Cheers, cock, that's great, thanks." 365 00:22:51,740 --> 00:22:55,300 And when she's gone out the room, he just puts his head in his hands and cries. 366 00:22:55,660 --> 00:23:01,540 I remember just thinking, God, he can make you laugh and cry and so few actors can do that. 367 00:23:02,180 --> 00:23:04,740 So I saw him at a BAFTA's do and I said, 368 00:23:04,980 --> 00:23:08,780 "Will you play my dad in a thing that we've not yet wrote?" 369 00:23:09,140 --> 00:23:13,700 And he said yes. I think it was great and quite brave of her actually 370 00:23:13,940 --> 00:23:16,060 to pair me up again with Sue Johnston, 371 00:23:16,300 --> 00:23:20,260 because I'd already worked five years with Sue in Brookside. 372 00:23:20,540 --> 00:23:24,820 Sue Johnston and Ricky were just perfect foils for each other. 373 00:23:25,020 --> 00:23:27,460 Conventional wisdom would say no, 374 00:23:27,700 --> 00:23:30,980 they've been parents in one show, you can't have them in another. 375 00:23:31,140 --> 00:23:32,460 To hell with conventional wisdom, 376 00:23:32,740 --> 00:23:35,300 the two of them are utterly convincing as man and wife. 377 00:23:38,220 --> 00:23:43,420 TV: He's seen another team of meerkats in the distance, just a glimpse of another gang... 378 00:23:43,700 --> 00:23:47,340 My dad will have been dead 20 years come tomorrow. 379 00:23:47,620 --> 00:23:50,180 He was only the same age as me when he died, you know? 380 00:23:50,420 --> 00:23:52,740 Oh, shut up, Jim, don't be so maudlin. 381 00:23:52,980 --> 00:23:55,780 Mind you, he was a right little shithouse to me mam. 382 00:23:55,940 --> 00:23:58,700 You shouldn't speak ill of the dead. 383 00:23:58,980 --> 00:24:02,980 Mind you, I don't think your mam's got too long to go, has she? Jim! 384 00:24:03,300 --> 00:24:07,100 Well, she's had a bloody good innings. God, you're a miserable sod sometimes. 385 00:24:07,460 --> 00:24:11,780 What kind of a thing is that to say to anybody? I don't know, I think I've cheered myself up a bit. 386 00:24:11,940 --> 00:24:13,780 Is there any Penguins left? No! 387 00:24:15,340 --> 00:24:17,980 When you've worked that closely with somebody for so long, 388 00:24:18,260 --> 00:24:23,020 you know, there's a rhythm about how you do and there's a trust, 389 00:24:23,180 --> 00:24:25,500 and it makes it much easier. 390 00:24:25,660 --> 00:24:27,540 You're halfway there when you start. 391 00:24:27,660 --> 00:24:29,820 Are you all right? 392 00:24:29,980 --> 00:24:32,180 Have you had your tea? 393 00:24:32,420 --> 00:24:35,380 What did you have? Oh, we've had that. 394 00:24:35,540 --> 00:24:37,140 We've had corned beef hash. 395 00:24:39,620 --> 00:24:42,020 The character of Barbara, I took to immediately 396 00:24:42,380 --> 00:24:47,740 because somewhere in me is an idea of Barbara - there's an essence of her, 397 00:24:47,940 --> 00:24:50,460 which I could then draw on 398 00:24:50,660 --> 00:24:52,660 from my own experience, really, 399 00:24:52,820 --> 00:24:54,820 and the slob that's within me. 400 00:24:55,180 --> 00:25:00,540 She is based a bit on a friend of my mum's. She just loves everything, Barbara, doesn't she? 401 00:25:00,860 --> 00:25:04,380 Yes. "Oh, Dave, have you done this, that and the other," and nobody is one bit interested. 402 00:25:04,620 --> 00:25:06,660 Everything we say she thinks is brilliant. 403 00:25:06,820 --> 00:25:08,660 Have you had your teas? Yeah. Yeah. 404 00:25:08,860 --> 00:25:11,900 Ah. What did you have? 405 00:25:12,060 --> 00:25:13,900 Dairylea on toast. 406 00:25:14,180 --> 00:25:18,980 Have you had your tea? Yeah. Yeah. Ah, what did you have? 407 00:25:19,220 --> 00:25:22,260 Steak and kidney pie. Ooh, home-made? 408 00:25:22,460 --> 00:25:23,500 No. 409 00:25:23,660 --> 00:25:26,460 Have you had your teas? Yeah. Yeah. 410 00:25:26,660 --> 00:25:28,180 What did you have? 411 00:25:28,340 --> 00:25:30,740 Spaghetti. Bolognese? 412 00:25:30,900 --> 00:25:32,060 Hoops. 413 00:25:33,180 --> 00:25:35,220 Oh. 414 00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:40,180 I grew up like that. In my family, mothers, you want to feed them 415 00:25:40,540 --> 00:25:44,380 because it's a way of loving them, is to give them food and keep them fed, 416 00:25:44,740 --> 00:25:47,940 and she's always wanting to feed them even though she makes Antony do the cooking. 417 00:25:50,340 --> 00:25:52,900 As in terms of acting, we learned from her, didn't we? 418 00:25:53,180 --> 00:25:55,940 Oh, blimey, yes. Because she's very technical. 419 00:25:56,300 --> 00:26:00,140 She's really beautiful and yet she doesn't mind whatever we put on her or whatever. 420 00:26:02,660 --> 00:26:04,220 She has to wear them leggings. 421 00:26:04,460 --> 00:26:08,860 She does, she's had them leggings for three series. Yeah. 422 00:26:09,140 --> 00:26:12,540 She's got lovely legs, a lovely body and a lovely head. 423 00:26:20,940 --> 00:26:23,140 Oh, dearie me. 424 00:26:23,420 --> 00:26:25,780 You wonder why we don't do interviews... 425 00:26:30,220 --> 00:26:34,500 "And a lovely head." Oh, yes. 426 00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:38,780 I think that was what one of the reviewers said, 427 00:26:38,940 --> 00:26:43,420 "Sue Johnston's miraculous head." 428 00:26:43,580 --> 00:26:46,220 Oh, dear me, I'm sorry. 429 00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:53,740 If we were half as good as her, it would be a far better show. 430 00:26:53,940 --> 00:26:57,220 Sadly, we're not. 431 00:26:57,220 --> 00:27:01,220 # She flies like a bird in the sky-y-y 432 00:27:01,380 --> 00:27:04,820 # She flies like a bird... # 433 00:27:05,100 --> 00:27:07,940 Fuelled by a stream of ciggies, tea, and telly, 434 00:27:08,180 --> 00:27:11,980 life in the Royle household is a delicious slice of life, 435 00:27:12,220 --> 00:27:16,580 and at its centre, a daughter, Denise, and her boyfriend, Dave. 436 00:27:16,820 --> 00:27:22,780 # ..And now I know I can't let Maggie go. # 437 00:27:26,420 --> 00:27:27,900 Hiya. 438 00:27:28,180 --> 00:27:30,220 It's all right, it's only Dave and Denise. 439 00:27:34,540 --> 00:27:40,460 There's not a lot to say about Dave, is there? He's just a simple pimple. 440 00:27:44,260 --> 00:27:48,060 He's just a simple bloke, isn't he? 441 00:27:48,220 --> 00:27:50,620 And Denise is just, like I said... 442 00:27:50,780 --> 00:27:54,340 Just very, very lazy. Spoiled. 443 00:27:54,700 --> 00:27:59,660 No, she does do all the Skyplus-ing, though. Yeah. That's her job in the house. 444 00:28:02,860 --> 00:28:08,740 Hey, Dave, what would you do if I went to the pictures with a fella who was just a friend? 445 00:28:08,980 --> 00:28:10,860 I don't know. 446 00:28:11,060 --> 00:28:12,900 But would you be mad? 447 00:28:13,060 --> 00:28:15,460 I don't know. 448 00:28:15,660 --> 00:28:18,260 You would though, wouldn't you? I don't know. 449 00:28:19,580 --> 00:28:22,940 You would. I don't know, do I? 450 00:28:23,140 --> 00:28:24,580 You've not been, have you? 451 00:28:24,780 --> 00:28:27,020 And you're not going to do, are you? 452 00:28:27,220 --> 00:28:28,980 Bloody hell. 453 00:28:29,220 --> 00:28:32,060 Dave, can't you try and be a bit more possessive? 454 00:28:32,380 --> 00:28:38,300 It saved us a lot of time having to explain what we want to other actors, 455 00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:41,820 and we got paid for it as well. 456 00:28:45,060 --> 00:28:48,020 So that came in handy, didn't it? 457 00:28:48,260 --> 00:28:51,340 Yeah, Craig and me, we like money, don't we? 458 00:28:51,540 --> 00:28:54,340 We used to be working class but... 459 00:28:54,580 --> 00:28:58,140 Now we're fully middle class. Fully middle-class. 460 00:28:58,340 --> 00:29:00,740 We are. Oh, dear. 461 00:29:01,020 --> 00:29:04,180 Dave, will you keep your big fat nose out, 462 00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:06,540 it's nothing to do with you. 463 00:29:06,860 --> 00:29:10,460 It's not your family. Well, you brought me in on this argument, haven't you? 464 00:29:10,780 --> 00:29:15,140 It's nothing to do with me, bloody hell, anyway what about you having a pop at your dad? 465 00:29:15,380 --> 00:29:18,820 And you're never off your arse, are you? Correct, David. 466 00:29:18,980 --> 00:29:22,700 When we first 467 00:29:22,940 --> 00:29:28,460 handed in the scripts, the comment that the BBC made 468 00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:33,780 was could Caroline's character be more likeable. 469 00:29:34,140 --> 00:29:39,140 That's a strange thing to say... And can they like each other, the members of the family. 470 00:29:39,380 --> 00:29:41,380 And we said, "Well, they love each other." 471 00:29:41,700 --> 00:29:45,860 Mam? Hmm? Will you ask our Antony to make my bacon dead, dead crispy? 472 00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:50,340 Yeah. Antony, make Denise's bacon dead, dead crispy. 473 00:29:52,220 --> 00:29:53,660 PHONE RINGS 474 00:29:53,860 --> 00:29:55,500 Get that will you please, Antony. 475 00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:02,540 I went to this audition, just heard about this audition, 476 00:30:02,900 --> 00:30:06,740 with Caroline and it was all, "Wow, Caroline Aherne, Mrs Merton, that's amazing." 477 00:30:06,980 --> 00:30:12,340 And I read the part, thought I was rubbish and by the time I'd got home 478 00:30:12,540 --> 00:30:14,100 they'd rung to say that I'd got it. 479 00:30:14,340 --> 00:30:16,460 And of course, at this point, I never knew 480 00:30:16,740 --> 00:30:18,940 that it was going to change my life forever 481 00:30:19,220 --> 00:30:22,300 but yes, that was the day that changed my life 482 00:30:22,660 --> 00:30:28,380 without a doubt, because of until that point, that was it, medical school, Dr Little, 483 00:30:28,700 --> 00:30:34,580 and then I met Caroline and Craig, read for five minutes, and here I am, what, 13 years later. 484 00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:40,700 We interviewed him, didn't we, he'd only done one hospital thing, hadn't he, before? 485 00:30:41,060 --> 00:30:46,860 He was just right, just so natural. He's amazing really, isn't he? Yeah, he still is. I mean, he's brilliant. 486 00:30:47,220 --> 00:30:52,220 He was only 17 when we did the first Royle Family and he's grown up into a lovely lad, hasn't he? 487 00:30:52,540 --> 00:30:57,260 Yeah, he really is a brilliant actor. He's really up there with the best, I think. 488 00:30:57,420 --> 00:30:59,460 HE SLURPS 489 00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:02,620 Mam, will you tell Antony to stop slurping his tea? 490 00:31:02,780 --> 00:31:05,140 Antony, stop slurping your tea. 491 00:31:05,380 --> 00:31:07,860 Dave eats like a pig and you never say owt to him. 492 00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:11,420 He does not eat like a pig, that's asthma, thanks very much. 493 00:31:11,660 --> 00:31:14,860 I think that's just brotherly and sisterly love 494 00:31:15,100 --> 00:31:19,580 because there's 18 months between me and our Patrick, and we used to be, 495 00:31:19,820 --> 00:31:22,780 you know, really picking at each other all the time. 496 00:31:23,140 --> 00:31:27,700 Now we're the best of friends, but when you're growing up, everything your brother does annoys you. 497 00:31:27,900 --> 00:31:29,380 Antony? 498 00:31:29,540 --> 00:31:31,780 Where's the red sauce for Dave? 499 00:31:32,020 --> 00:31:36,380 No red sauce. Get the red sauce, you lazy sod. 500 00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:42,100 Antony, go and put that bin out, love, that chicken'll start to stink if we leave it. 501 00:31:42,260 --> 00:31:43,900 Antony, make a brew. 502 00:31:45,060 --> 00:31:47,180 I've just been to the shop. 503 00:31:47,460 --> 00:31:50,340 Come on, the kettle's already boiled, lazy arse. 504 00:31:50,620 --> 00:31:53,540 Everybody on the show still thinks that I'm 17. 505 00:31:53,820 --> 00:31:57,460 Ricky is hilarious because Ricky will still... 506 00:31:57,620 --> 00:32:00,220 He'll go... They'll go, "Cut!" 507 00:32:00,380 --> 00:32:02,180 and Ricky will go "Hey, Ralfy, Ralf. 508 00:32:04,380 --> 00:32:07,020 "You couldn't get us a little cup of tea, could you?" 509 00:32:07,260 --> 00:32:10,860 Like if he says a LITTLE cup of tea then I'm not as much as a dogsbody. 510 00:32:11,180 --> 00:32:15,780 "You couldn't get us a little cup of tea could you, two sugars?" And like, "Yes, Rick, I'm still 17." 511 00:32:16,020 --> 00:32:18,020 Hey, mallet-head, have you done the pots? 512 00:32:20,820 --> 00:32:23,220 Cut it out, you, Lurch. 513 00:32:23,420 --> 00:32:25,420 Oh, thank you, Lurkio. 514 00:32:25,660 --> 00:32:28,620 Jim's nicknames were Antony came from Ricky's imagination. 515 00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:33,900 I'm sure mallet-head was Ricky's, Action Man was Ricky's, 516 00:32:34,060 --> 00:32:36,820 Lurch was Ricky's, 517 00:32:37,060 --> 00:32:42,980 Lurch was Ricky's...and then Lurch became Lurkio, Lurky, Lurk, 518 00:32:43,340 --> 00:32:45,860 or any derivation of Lurch. 519 00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:50,660 I don't think Antony's character was ever called Lurkio in the script 520 00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:53,460 but I'd been watching The Addams Family 521 00:32:53,780 --> 00:32:59,140 and Lurch in The Addams Family reminded me of Ralf, so I called him Lurky and it stuck. 522 00:32:59,340 --> 00:33:01,500 Nice one, Lurch. 523 00:33:13,460 --> 00:33:19,380 I'm here in Worthing, which is where Liz Smith lives now, because it's been four years since I saw her 524 00:33:20,340 --> 00:33:25,900 when we did the Queen Of Sheba together. And when I heard that she was being interviewed for this, 525 00:33:26,140 --> 00:33:29,060 I thought I'd come and see her, give her a bit of company. 526 00:33:37,420 --> 00:33:39,140 Come in. 527 00:33:42,140 --> 00:33:43,740 Miss Smith? 528 00:33:43,940 --> 00:33:45,700 SHE CHUCKLES 529 00:33:45,860 --> 00:33:47,820 Hey! Ralf, oh! 530 00:33:48,060 --> 00:33:51,540 Oh, no, what a lovely bunch of flowers! 531 00:33:53,460 --> 00:33:55,900 Hello. How are you? You look fantastic. 532 00:33:56,140 --> 00:33:59,460 So do you. No, that's a lie but you look... 533 00:33:59,620 --> 00:34:01,260 You look very Spanish today. 534 00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:03,980 I look very Spanish? Yeah. Oh, thank you. 535 00:34:04,260 --> 00:34:06,020 I heard that was what you wanted. Ooh! 536 00:34:06,220 --> 00:34:08,580 What a lovely bunch of flowers. 537 00:34:08,820 --> 00:34:13,420 You look really well. I am. I am well, but I can't walk very well. 538 00:34:13,780 --> 00:34:18,740 Well, let me put that away for you. Yes, thank you very much. I'll put them on the table for the moment. 539 00:34:19,060 --> 00:34:24,220 This is all very nice, you look very comfortable. Well, I haven't moved in properly, 540 00:34:24,460 --> 00:34:30,380 I haven't been here very long, and it's a retirement flat 541 00:34:31,940 --> 00:34:37,540 but it's got a little bit of help with it. Right. Because I need a bit of help nowadays. 542 00:34:37,860 --> 00:34:41,660 You've got a bit of help but you still got... Because I'm getting on a bit, you know. 543 00:34:42,020 --> 00:34:45,900 Well, you say that, but I don't see it myself. I'm getting on a bit. 544 00:34:46,060 --> 00:34:47,660 Would you like a drink, Dave? 545 00:34:47,820 --> 00:34:49,540 I'll have a lager please, Barbara. 546 00:34:49,700 --> 00:34:51,900 Denise? Anything, ta. 547 00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:54,460 Mam, would you like a drink? No, I'd better not. 548 00:35:02,420 --> 00:35:06,460 Well, Nana is a selfish old bitch, really. 549 00:35:08,740 --> 00:35:11,060 She works her daughter to death 550 00:35:11,260 --> 00:35:12,660 looking after her. 551 00:35:12,940 --> 00:35:18,340 She wants everything brought, just like me now. 552 00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:20,460 I've got us a little treat. 553 00:35:21,700 --> 00:35:24,940 Ooh, I love cream cakes, me. 554 00:35:25,100 --> 00:35:29,820 Ooh, I don't know which one to have. 555 00:35:30,980 --> 00:35:33,900 Liz is priceless 556 00:35:34,180 --> 00:35:38,860 in every sense of the word, she's just the most wonderful actress. 557 00:35:39,060 --> 00:35:42,020 We saw A Private Function. Yeah. 558 00:35:42,340 --> 00:35:48,220 And we were so happy to get her, we didn't think we'd get her, but we were delighted then when we got her. 559 00:35:49,540 --> 00:35:54,980 When we write her lines, we just know she's going to deliver it better than you'd written it. 560 00:35:55,140 --> 00:35:56,780 Yeah, absolutely yes. 561 00:35:56,980 --> 00:35:59,380 So where is it you're going again? 562 00:35:59,540 --> 00:36:01,180 Tenerife. Ooh, 563 00:36:01,340 --> 00:36:03,780 that'll be gorgeous, won't it? 564 00:36:04,020 --> 00:36:09,500 Me and your grandad went to Blackpool for a week in a B&B. 565 00:36:09,820 --> 00:36:15,260 It's a Harry Ramsden's now, which is quite fitting as we met in a fish shop. 566 00:36:15,580 --> 00:36:21,460 It was after the town hall dance, I went there with my friend Betty. Oh, Betty. 567 00:36:21,820 --> 00:36:25,820 She married a joiner, moved to Leeds. 568 00:36:25,980 --> 00:36:28,220 He knocked her about a bit 569 00:36:28,380 --> 00:36:30,620 but her home was lovely. 570 00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:34,260 'It wasn't like a job, it was more like joining a family. 571 00:36:34,420 --> 00:36:36,020 'I felt wonderful' 572 00:36:36,300 --> 00:36:41,060 every time I settled into that corner of that sofa 573 00:36:41,420 --> 00:36:47,300 and the rest of the family were all round, it was a lovely feeling because you felt secure. 574 00:36:47,940 --> 00:36:53,580 We've heard nothing from Antony but Emma, Emma, Emma. 575 00:36:55,340 --> 00:36:58,300 It's the first time I've known Antony courting. 576 00:36:58,420 --> 00:37:01,380 Now, Nana, don't be saying that. 577 00:37:01,580 --> 00:37:04,420 Is your Nana still alive, Emma? 578 00:37:04,660 --> 00:37:08,020 Yeah. 'Oh, yes, she does put on posh...' 579 00:37:09,660 --> 00:37:12,300 And... 580 00:37:12,460 --> 00:37:14,980 I think that's quite common. 581 00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:20,380 One of the times when you did the posh accent was round the dinner table and you were telling Twiggy 582 00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:26,540 about which modes of transport you'd been on and for some reason you went, I have been on a coach, 583 00:37:26,780 --> 00:37:29,740 Twiggy, that's my favourite mode of transport. 584 00:37:29,980 --> 00:37:33,100 And, like, why would that be posh, that's ridiculous? 585 00:37:33,260 --> 00:37:37,700 But it was posh to her, you see. 586 00:37:37,980 --> 00:37:43,900 Yes. I have been on a train once or twice, but do you know, Twiggy, 587 00:37:44,980 --> 00:37:47,900 my favourite mode of transportation... 588 00:37:48,060 --> 00:37:50,100 Is a bloody broomstick. 589 00:37:50,260 --> 00:37:53,260 Jim. Ignore him, Barbara. 590 00:37:53,420 --> 00:37:55,700 ..A coach. 591 00:37:55,980 --> 00:38:00,700 I just remember the first read-through that we had 592 00:38:00,940 --> 00:38:04,580 and as soon as she started talking, everybody started laughing. 593 00:38:04,820 --> 00:38:08,780 And you just knew she was going to be magnificent. 594 00:38:09,060 --> 00:38:12,980 Ricky absolutely loves her, they get on so well. Oh, he adores her. 595 00:38:13,300 --> 00:38:18,380 Yeah, but you couldn't not love Liz, she's just so professional, you know, 596 00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:23,180 for a lady of her age. I mean, she's been in things with Johnny Depp, hasn't she? 597 00:38:23,460 --> 00:38:26,420 Yeah, she kissed Johnny Depp. She kissed Johnny Depp. 598 00:38:26,700 --> 00:38:29,500 Yeah, you would have liked that, wouldn't you? Yeah. 599 00:38:29,740 --> 00:38:32,060 You'd have liked to have kissed Liz, wouldn't you? 600 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,600 One, two, one, two, three, four... 601 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:46,680 # I want a girl just like the girl that married dear old Dad, 602 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,400 # Skiddly-do, skiddly-do, skiddly do do do, she was... # 603 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,160 Sublime scripts, realistic characters, and pitch perfect performances 604 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,880 put the Royle Family head and shoulders above its rivals. 605 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,240 And rounding off the stellar cast are the supporting characters 606 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,560 who frequently pop in for tea and a natter. 607 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:09,760 # ..I want a girl just like the girl that married dear old Dad. # 608 00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:13,600 It's been a terrible morning. 609 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,680 We've been down to casualty with Joe. 610 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,800 Ooh, what's to do, Joe? 611 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,600 It's the two fingers of his right hand. Three and a half hours in casualty, Barbara. 612 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,800 Ooh. 613 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,680 How did you do it, Joe? He was grating a bit of cheese, Barbara, it could happen to anyone. 614 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:35,920 Caroline's mum is a great source of material because you just laugh all the time when you're there, really. 615 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,640 She's very Irish, and she's like Mary next door. 616 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,720 Very like Mary next door. 617 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,600 I don't know, all this palaver over grating a bit of cheese. 618 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,440 I think we'll be going back to Dairylea, Barbara, it's a much safer cheese. 619 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:51,680 Oh, yeah. 620 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,040 I am a compulsive giggler, 621 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,800 and to not laugh inwardly, because if you laugh inwardly 622 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,920 it shows through your face and through your eyes, 623 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,280 so you've just got to keep the frown going 624 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,920 and just keep deadpan all the time. 625 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,840 After a while, I got used to doing it. 626 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:20,040 All right, Joe? All right, Joe? All right, Joe? Are you busy? 627 00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:21,560 JOE: No. 628 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,280 Are you looking for Mary? 629 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:27,800 No. Oh. 630 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,800 Erm, do you want a cup of tea, Joe? 631 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,680 No, I won't, thanks. 632 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,480 It's somebody I know who... 633 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,400 Are you going to name him? No, no. 634 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,760 He just comes in and stands there and then you ask, 635 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,280 "Are you all right?" 636 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:50,600 "Yeah." 637 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,480 And he hasn't anything to say 638 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,240 and it's so uncomfortable just having him standing there. 639 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,640 So many new names for you. 640 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:05,200 Just remember, we're Mary and Joseph like in the Bible, 641 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,960 but we've got Cheryl, not Jesus. 642 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,600 Hiya. Hiya. 643 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,240 Cheryl is a very straightforward person. 644 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,400 She's quite an uncomplicated person, 645 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,600 which is why it's quite nice to play her. 646 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,680 How's your diet going, Cheryl? 647 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:25,160 Oh, all right thanks, Barbara. Yeah, I lost four pounds. BOTH: Ooh! 648 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,000 And I put two back on and then another two, 649 00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:33,040 but you know I've not gained any. Ooh. 650 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,640 How's your diet going, Cheryl? 651 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,040 I started a new one. What is it, babe? 652 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,200 Mainly fruit and vegetables. 653 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,360 Oh, I'm sorry to hear that, Cheryl. 654 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,360 But I have plenty of nuts as well. 655 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,240 But I forgot to take my nuts to work yesterday, so I just had a Topic. 656 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,600 Oh, that's very clever, Cheryl, there's plenty of nuts in them. 657 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,360 Yeah, and two Snickers. 658 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,120 Oh. 659 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,400 How's your diet going, Cheryl? 660 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,720 I've lost half a stone. Have you? 661 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:09,440 Ooh, Cheryl, that's wonderful! 662 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,280 Oh, well done! 663 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,200 That's loads that, Cheryl. 664 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,200 No, I don't mean half a stone, I mean half a pound. 665 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,440 Sometimes I find myself losing weight, especially if we're filming in the summer, 666 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,960 because I was wearing this fat suit and it was literally like a kind of sweatbox. 667 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,360 It was like being wrapped in some sort of strange exotic slim machine, 668 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,800 but I actually loved wearing it. 669 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,200 What a ridiculous life. Anyway... SHE LAUGHS 670 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:38,680 I don't know how you can eat 671 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,040 mayonnaise and ketchup together, Cheryl. 672 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,000 'She does hardly anything. Yeah. 673 00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:47,440 'She's brilliant, she does hardly anything. 674 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,680 'It's just her little face, you know, 675 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,400 'just the expressions that she does, so subtle,' 676 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,120 but so powerful. Yeah. 677 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,040 Her Scotch egg moment when Twiggy flirted with her 678 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,320 and she sort of seductively ate a Scotch egg 679 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,760 in the least seductive way possible, but it was just genius. 680 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,440 I've always thought you were a little belter. 681 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,440 I mean, the great thing about Twiggy as a character is... 682 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,160 was his optimism, 683 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:40,360 because Twiggy would find the good thing, the positive side, 684 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,360 in whatever situation he was in. 685 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,880 Ho-ho-ho! Ooh, Twiggy! 686 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,840 All right, Barb. All right, Twiggo! 687 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,320 All right, Jim. Here you are, Dave. 688 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,840 I would have got more only the dog started barking and I had to leg it. 689 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,520 Oh, cheers, Twiggy. 690 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,960 'I've been very lucky in my career. I've been very lucky.' 691 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,800 I've played four, sort of, quite well known characters on television, 692 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,840 'but certainly there are moments in the Royle Family 693 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,800 'that I will never forget,' 694 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:15,160 and be eternally grateful to Craig and Caroline. 695 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,200 Hey, Jim, 696 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,840 who does that remind you of? 697 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,240 Beverly Macker. Correct! 698 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,880 'I think it's lovely that there's whole chunks of the world' 699 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,320 that we never see, like we never see the pub, 700 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,560 we never saw the wedding, 701 00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:34,080 we never see Beverly Macker. 702 00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:36,480 Who's Beverly Macker? 703 00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:39,000 A girl Dave went out with. Only once. 704 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,560 But that's all it takes. I did nowt. 705 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,520 Better not have done. She's a dirty cow her. 706 00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:46,960 Have I ever seen Beverly Macker? 707 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,760 No more about Beverly Macker. 708 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,320 It's great to not see them, because you can just paint a picture 709 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,200 and everyone can imagine what they're like. 710 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,600 Beverly Macker, you just know exactly what she's going to be like. 711 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,040 I think eventually they've got to bring Beverly in. 712 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,000 So we'll be on the lookout somewhere out there for someone 713 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,240 from Manchester with a big pair of tits. 714 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,640 If you know anyone, 715 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,120 get me the photograph and I'll audition them myself. 716 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,160 HE LAUGHS 717 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,720 Eew! I think I'm through the worst of that now. 718 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,680 I'll see you later, Jim. See you later. OK. 719 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,960 The episode where she gets married, 720 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,960 I remember vividly there's a scene 721 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,960 where they're just about to leave, and Ricky and her 722 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,680 are left in the house together. 723 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,080 I'm getting moved now thinking about it. 724 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,800 It's just so beautiful between the two of them. 725 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,640 Hey, just come and see your nana. 726 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,880 Bloody hell! 727 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,360 Who else do you know would get in a bloody taxi arse-first, like her? 728 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,320 'There are few playwrights who can pull that sort of thing off. Alan Ayckbourn did it,' 729 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,240 I suppose Shakespeare did it to an extent, you know, 730 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,360 where you make people laugh for so long and then suddenly, 731 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,840 because you got them on your side, you can then hit them with that. 732 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,120 And they really earned the right to do that. 733 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,600 DENISE SOBS 734 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,320 Hey, what's to do? 735 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:20,480 Nothing, it's just it's the last time I'll be Denise Royle. 736 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,000 It's really weird getting married. 737 00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:29,560 I don't even know whether I like it. Hey, come on, don't be soft. 738 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,280 You'll bloody love it, won't you? 739 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,480 You look radiant, you look like a real princess. 740 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,400 And I'm dead proud of you. 741 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,960 Caroline Aherne is an enormous inspiration to me 742 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,200 and I'm sure to many, many people. 743 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,360 To have the character of Denise that is on the one hand 744 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:56,560 so ludicrously shallow, but she has this depth within her 745 00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:02,760 to draw on such emotion and to draw on such truth. 746 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,600 She just sort of stands head and shoulders above 747 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,680 most people who are in the business of doing that. 748 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:16,360 DOOR CLOSES 749 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,200 # So what do you say 750 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,080 # You can give me the dream... # 751 00:47:25,240 --> 00:47:27,640 No, I'm not going to breast-feed. 752 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,160 I've been thinking about it, right, and if the baby wants feeding 753 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,080 in the night with my breasts, 754 00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:35,560 it'll mean me having to wake up. 755 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,120 Mmm. But if it's like bottle-fed and everything, 756 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,120 Dave can do it, you know, when you're not there. 757 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,360 I've got to keep my independence, that's the thing. 758 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:49,880 Oh, yeah, yeah, you must keep your independence. 759 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,320 'What's joyous for the audience and has been the result 760 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:58,120 'of perhaps not lax parenting,' 761 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:04,040 but Denise was clearly a little princess... 762 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,520 and maybe should have perhaps been disciplined a little bit more, 763 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,560 or perhaps been guided more in the art of not being so selfish. 764 00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:14,880 You've broken our home up. 765 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,600 It's not even your bloody home, you don't live here. 766 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,440 Mam said Antony stormed out. Now she's gone, I'll be next. 767 00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:24,280 You're too bloody lazy to storm off anywhere, you! 768 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,320 No, you're the lazy one. 769 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,080 You're the bloody lazy one. 770 00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:31,600 Get lost, you're way lazier than me! 771 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,200 My arse, you are. 772 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,200 No, you are. She is. 773 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,920 He is. 774 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,680 It's just such a good quality, laziness. I don't think... 775 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,080 It's underestimated, isn't it? 776 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,120 It's underestimated. You don't see enough of it on telly. 777 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,800 But it was really lovely, because I can't have babies in real life so... 778 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,520 Oh, bloody hell, you're not bringing that up, are you, on national TV? 779 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,000 "I can't have babies." 780 00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:01,480 Oh, bloody hell! They'll be switching off in their droves. 781 00:49:01,720 --> 00:49:05,200 They've tuned in for a bit of a laugh. 782 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,040 "Oh, the Royle Family's on." 783 00:49:07,240 --> 00:49:09,600 "Well, I can't have babies." 784 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,320 Oh, bloody hell! I was just going to say, so it was... 785 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:18,000 The bloody Samaritans are going to be bloody pulled out, aren't they? 786 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,080 If you tell about being barren. 787 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,640 It was lovely to write myself in being pregnant, 788 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:31,840 so I got the feeling twice, twice I've been pregnant in it. 789 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,760 In actual fact, nobody will go near that area in real life. 790 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,920 THEY LAUGH 791 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,240 Which is why she's barren. 792 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,280 Oh, guess what? What? 793 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,080 I've got to go to the toilet. Ohh. 794 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,440 Oops! 795 00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:08,200 I'm very lucky, when I had to do scenes with Denise, 796 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,320 scenes which were a little bit emotional and stuff like that, 797 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,600 particularly when she was having the baby and we're sitting 798 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,440 in the bathroom and that, I mean, they were real tears. 799 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,680 What's the matter? 800 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,360 I don't know. 801 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,560 I can't even remember what I'm supposed to be doing. 802 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:29,600 I opened my baby book, I'm supposed to be doing my breathing 803 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,840 and I can't even remember how to breathe. 804 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,400 Come on, you'll be all right. 805 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,560 Here you are. 806 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,920 Let's play your tape, hey? 807 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,360 'Everybody knows on set when a scene like that is coming along. 808 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,480 'The crew all go quiet, you don't have to say anything. 809 00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:53,400 'We film it chronologically, so that everyone on the crew 810 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,800 'has sat through that episode,' 811 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,320 and shot that episode. 812 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,560 So by the time you get to it, they're kind of very much involved in it 813 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,080 and everybody knows and it does go quiet. Yeah. 814 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,560 We just stand by the monitor just hoping that it will... 815 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:13,320 go as well as it's written, and quite often it goes better than it was. 816 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,760 # Pie jesu, pie jesu... # 817 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,880 Denise? Yeah. 818 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,600 Are you definitely sure it wasn't just a great big piss, love? 819 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,720 No, I know it wasn't. 820 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,880 'One take wonders are quite terrifying' 821 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,080 for any producer or director, 822 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,720 because you always want to do something again 823 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,600 just because there might be a fault on the film 824 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,160 or a technical fault or something. So we did it, 825 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,920 and then it was pretty obvious we weren't going to do it again. 826 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,280 It was kind of...that special, 827 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,400 and the notion of trying to do it again was frankly ludicrous. 828 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,240 The notion of asking Caroline to do it again was even more ludicrous, 829 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,640 and Ricky wouldn't have wanted to do it again. 830 00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:01,080 It was a brilliant piece of performance. 831 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,240 I remember the first time your mum... 832 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,760 ..When your mum put... 833 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,880 put you in my arms and I looked at you. 834 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,880 Oh, God, you were beautiful and I knew, 835 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,200 I knew then... 836 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,280 I'd do anything for you, anything for you... 837 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:22,880 and our Antony. 838 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,800 It's an amazing moment, it's so real. 839 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,920 It sort of gets you there. 840 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,880 I'm switching these off, I'm not made of money. 841 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,400 Oh, Jim, come on, your daughter's in agony here. 842 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,280 Get your coat on. Here you are, love. 843 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,920 Yeah. No, I'm all right. 844 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,280 Are you all right, love? Yeah, I can walk myself. 845 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,400 Tell the driver to follow that star. HE LAUGHS 846 00:52:58,100 --> 00:53:00,300 I'm off for a chat with the Arabs. 847 00:53:00,540 --> 00:53:03,020 What do you mean, Jim? Mustafa Crap. HE CHUCKLES 848 00:53:03,300 --> 00:53:05,340 Riding high after winning three BAFTAs 849 00:53:05,460 --> 00:53:07,020 and a clutch of comedy awards, 850 00:53:07,260 --> 00:53:11,060 the Royles returned for a third series with a new director. 851 00:53:11,260 --> 00:53:14,060 And the award goes to Kenton Allen, 852 00:53:14,220 --> 00:53:17,940 Caroline Aherne, and Craig Cash 853 00:53:18,100 --> 00:53:19,740 for The Royle Family. 854 00:53:29,340 --> 00:53:33,340 Without taking anything away from the other two directors who directed 855 00:53:33,580 --> 00:53:36,500 series one, series two, I think Caroline had always had 856 00:53:36,740 --> 00:53:41,460 a very, very, very firm hand on the performances. 857 00:53:41,620 --> 00:53:44,300 143 - take three. Pick up. 858 00:53:44,580 --> 00:53:50,100 It was a pretty natural step for her to take over the whole bloody thing. 859 00:53:50,460 --> 00:53:55,780 Could we, before we cut it, give quite a long time with the sandwiches for this one? 860 00:53:56,020 --> 00:53:59,900 And you get your red sauce on and everything. Quite a while. 861 00:54:00,140 --> 00:54:02,260 'I was afraid of things getting diluted down 862 00:54:02,500 --> 00:54:05,860 'with a different director, because I think that me and Craig' 863 00:54:06,140 --> 00:54:10,060 have got this one vision and then you don't kind of want 864 00:54:10,340 --> 00:54:13,260 a director to come in with theirs or whatever, 865 00:54:13,500 --> 00:54:16,900 because it just dilutes it or it's too many people's ideas. 866 00:54:17,060 --> 00:54:18,900 That's just the way we do it. 867 00:54:19,140 --> 00:54:22,380 So we'll be at a monitor for every shot from the first one 868 00:54:22,660 --> 00:54:27,460 in the first series to the last minute of the last series, 869 00:54:27,700 --> 00:54:32,660 and we'll be in the edit for every one as well, every second. 870 00:54:32,820 --> 00:54:34,900 You should go from the top again. 871 00:54:35,260 --> 00:54:39,580 She was stood like she was at the front of the boat, you know like in that film the Titanic? 872 00:54:39,820 --> 00:54:42,820 I tell you what, it's a great film that, the old Titanic, isn't it? 873 00:54:42,980 --> 00:54:46,420 THEY LAUGH 874 00:54:46,580 --> 00:54:47,900 I did say Titanic. 875 00:54:48,140 --> 00:54:51,260 I really liked you saying that. I thought it was great. Keep that. 876 00:54:51,460 --> 00:54:54,020 Sometimes it kicks off big style, 877 00:54:54,300 --> 00:54:58,060 usually me and Caroline just rowing about... 878 00:54:58,220 --> 00:55:00,700 Perhaps you wouldn't have your pen. 879 00:55:00,940 --> 00:55:03,220 That's right, I wouldn't have a pen on me. 880 00:55:03,380 --> 00:55:04,540 As a writer. 881 00:55:04,780 --> 00:55:07,820 As a writer, I don't have a pen, which somehow winds Caroline up. 882 00:55:08,140 --> 00:55:12,700 Yeah, but I'm the director. We're always all right at the end of it though. 883 00:55:12,980 --> 00:55:17,940 Oh, yeah, and everybody knows that we don't mean it or anything. 884 00:55:18,100 --> 00:55:20,620 It's just like family, you know. 885 00:55:20,860 --> 00:55:25,820 Caroline makes it such a great atmosphere, she's very generous. 886 00:55:26,060 --> 00:55:28,140 And people just want to work for her. 887 00:55:28,420 --> 00:55:30,540 What happens when we went over the lines, 888 00:55:30,780 --> 00:55:34,260 if you came up with a nice idea or a gag or something like that, 889 00:55:34,500 --> 00:55:37,140 if it was good enough, she'd let you put it in. 890 00:55:37,420 --> 00:55:40,700 Like Dave, I'd say to him, "Are you are having that, David?" 891 00:55:40,860 --> 00:55:42,580 And he'd say, "Thank you, James." 892 00:55:42,900 --> 00:55:47,540 So little bits like that evolved and you'd keep them in if it works, you know. 893 00:55:47,700 --> 00:55:50,500 Jim, I'm only doing a finger buffet. 894 00:55:50,660 --> 00:55:51,860 Oh, finger my arse. 895 00:55:53,860 --> 00:55:57,700 THEY LAUGH 896 00:55:57,940 --> 00:56:03,060 Are you having that, Dave? Finger my arse? Good one that, James. 897 00:56:03,340 --> 00:56:06,220 Oh, Mam, guess what, right? The other day, right, 898 00:56:06,460 --> 00:56:09,420 I just took my eyes off baby David just for a second 899 00:56:09,620 --> 00:56:11,380 while Richard and Judy was on, 900 00:56:11,620 --> 00:56:15,700 and the next thing, he only tipped a full ashtray all over himself. 901 00:56:15,940 --> 00:56:19,140 Awww! Aren't they lovely at that age? 902 00:56:19,380 --> 00:56:23,500 Yeah. Oh, I bet he looked dead cute, didn't he? Yeah. 903 00:56:23,700 --> 00:56:28,140 Denise has got no parenting skills whatsoever. 904 00:56:28,300 --> 00:56:31,580 Totally selfish, 905 00:56:31,740 --> 00:56:35,460 self-absorbed, self-centred girl. 906 00:56:35,740 --> 00:56:40,020 Oh, I think he might have done one, Denise. Have a smell. 907 00:56:41,940 --> 00:56:44,060 I'm not sure. Mam? 908 00:56:44,220 --> 00:56:46,540 Oh. 909 00:56:46,740 --> 00:56:51,220 Oh, yeah, definitely has. 910 00:56:51,380 --> 00:56:52,580 Yeah, he has. 911 00:56:55,820 --> 00:56:57,860 Oh, he's definitely done one. 912 00:56:58,140 --> 00:57:01,420 He's going to need changing, isn't he? Antony? 913 00:57:01,660 --> 00:57:05,620 Oh, don't tell Antony to do it, not while he's having his tea. 914 00:57:05,860 --> 00:57:09,140 'I became the mother in the relationship, didn't I? 915 00:57:09,380 --> 00:57:14,700 'But it was great because ordinarily you would have that' 916 00:57:14,980 --> 00:57:19,020 lazy girl turning out to be a fantastic mother 917 00:57:19,260 --> 00:57:23,020 in most things, and it was just nice to turn it on its head. 918 00:57:23,300 --> 00:57:26,420 When are you going to start changing the nappies, Denise? 919 00:57:26,620 --> 00:57:28,860 No way, it smells of shite. 920 00:57:29,180 --> 00:57:33,140 It did get uncomfortable when the baby was crying, obviously it was taped in. 921 00:57:33,460 --> 00:57:36,820 When the baby is crying on the monitor... And we're all sitting there. 922 00:57:37,180 --> 00:57:40,900 I still kind of can't watch that back without thinking, "Oh, it's torturous." 923 00:57:41,140 --> 00:57:47,100 It's torturous to sit through it and hear a baby crying and us all, 924 00:57:47,340 --> 00:57:49,220 and ignoring it or whatever. 925 00:57:49,380 --> 00:57:51,220 BABY CRIES 926 00:57:51,380 --> 00:57:53,660 Dave? 927 00:57:53,820 --> 00:57:56,700 Hmm? Will you go up? 928 00:57:56,900 --> 00:57:59,940 No, I put him up. 929 00:58:00,100 --> 00:58:02,340 BABY CONTINUES TO CRY 930 00:58:09,580 --> 00:58:11,500 Mam? Yeah. 931 00:58:11,740 --> 00:58:16,340 Would you like to go up and have a little look at your little grandson? 932 00:58:16,580 --> 00:58:20,820 Oh, leave him for a bit, he'll be all right. Yeah. 933 00:58:21,180 --> 00:58:24,540 Baby David's crying upstairs and it's getting more and more uncomfortable. 934 00:58:24,780 --> 00:58:27,140 Everybody's like, "We should probably go up," 935 00:58:27,380 --> 00:58:28,820 and it's like, "Mam, will you go up?" 936 00:58:29,060 --> 00:58:31,020 "He'll be all right in a bit." "Dad, will you go up?" 937 00:58:31,300 --> 00:58:33,020 "Just leave him for a bit." "Dave, will you go?" 938 00:58:33,220 --> 00:58:36,020 "Oh, just leave him." "Antony, will you go up?" 939 00:58:36,260 --> 00:58:39,300 And Antony goes, "I went up last time," 940 00:58:39,540 --> 00:58:44,660 and Jim goes, "Oi, Baldy, that's my grandson you're talking about. 941 00:58:44,820 --> 00:58:47,740 "Now get up them stairs!" 942 00:58:47,980 --> 00:58:52,020 Antony, will you go up? Kiss me arse. 943 00:58:52,260 --> 00:58:54,780 Hey, Baldy, that's my grandson you're talking about! 944 00:58:55,020 --> 00:58:58,580 Now get up there and see to him, you lazy little sod! 945 00:58:58,740 --> 00:59:02,660 God, he's one lazy little git, him. 946 00:59:03,820 --> 00:59:09,260 HE LAUGHS It's so vicious, and so unfair. 947 00:59:09,420 --> 00:59:10,700 Oi, Baldy! 948 00:59:10,940 --> 00:59:13,340 Hey, how's me favourite little grandson, hey? 949 00:59:13,540 --> 00:59:14,420 HE CHUCKLES 950 00:59:14,700 --> 00:59:17,780 It's like looking in the mirror looking at this fellow, isn't it? 951 00:59:18,060 --> 00:59:20,780 He's the spit of me. Here's me, look at that. 952 00:59:21,020 --> 00:59:23,700 Wardrobe were brilliant, because they dressed him 953 00:59:23,980 --> 00:59:26,060 like how chavs would dress him. Oh, yeah. 954 00:59:26,220 --> 00:59:28,380 With a leather jacket with a fringe. 955 00:59:28,620 --> 00:59:31,260 We used to look at whatever David Beckham was wearing at the time, 956 00:59:31,500 --> 00:59:34,460 so it's like a bandanna or whatever he was kind of wearing. 957 00:59:34,700 --> 00:59:38,460 We never actually put baby David in a skirt though. 958 00:59:38,700 --> 00:59:41,580 I love this fella. Here you are, Barb. 959 00:59:43,220 --> 00:59:46,460 When he was older in the Queen Of Sheba we had it, it was... 960 00:59:46,740 --> 00:59:49,900 Craig's son, Harry. It was our Harry just because 961 00:59:50,140 --> 00:59:53,780 he looked like me, and then we had him dressing like me 962 00:59:54,060 --> 00:59:57,740 as opposed to David Beckham, not a lot of difference. 963 00:59:57,900 --> 01:00:00,660 Bye-bye, baby David. 964 01:00:00,820 --> 01:00:02,860 Bye-bye, baby David. 965 01:00:03,020 --> 01:00:07,100 Bye-bye, baby David. 966 01:00:07,260 --> 01:00:10,500 Bye-bye, daybry Babid. 967 01:00:12,740 --> 01:00:15,140 Erm... This is Emma. 968 01:00:17,380 --> 01:00:19,180 We're very pleased to meet you, Emma. 969 01:00:19,380 --> 01:00:20,820 We've heard a lot about you. 970 01:00:23,780 --> 01:00:26,780 I met Caroline and Craig in the audition and, of course, 971 01:00:27,060 --> 01:00:29,020 I'd watched the first series and loved it 972 01:00:29,300 --> 01:00:32,180 and was in awe of them so it was a terrifying audition. 973 01:00:32,340 --> 01:00:34,220 And walking on set the first day 974 01:00:34,460 --> 01:00:37,780 to something that you'd watched and everyone loves, 975 01:00:38,020 --> 01:00:41,340 it was really daunting but so exciting and the cast was so great. 976 01:00:41,700 --> 01:00:46,340 They really took me under their wing and looked after me, and it was just the best experience. 977 01:00:46,580 --> 01:00:49,420 What is she? She's a vegetarian, Nana. 978 01:00:49,660 --> 01:00:53,140 Ooh! You could have a bit of cheese though. 979 01:00:53,300 --> 01:00:56,060 Have you got some cheese, Barbara? 980 01:00:56,220 --> 01:00:59,100 Oh, Emma, it's a shame for you. 981 01:00:59,460 --> 01:01:03,340 If she doesn't want anything, she doesn't want any, leave the girl alone. 982 01:01:03,500 --> 01:01:05,300 She's all right. 983 01:01:05,620 --> 01:01:09,620 Hey, that's a belting little car you've got, love, what does your dad drive? 984 01:01:09,780 --> 01:01:13,180 Could you have some wafer-thin ham? 985 01:01:13,420 --> 01:01:15,900 Could she have wafer-thin ham, Barbara? 986 01:01:16,100 --> 01:01:18,220 No. Oh. 987 01:01:18,540 --> 01:01:23,140 She was just really natural and she was really understated and played things really well. 988 01:01:23,380 --> 01:01:26,700 And there was a moment when the dog shit and everyone could smell it, 989 01:01:26,900 --> 01:01:28,540 and she was doing that thing about, 990 01:01:28,900 --> 01:01:32,380 she wasn't overplaying it by going, "Oh, God," and all this, she was just 991 01:01:32,700 --> 01:01:37,140 sort of kind of politely just cover her nose with her purse but not actually saying anything. 992 01:01:37,300 --> 01:01:39,460 She really just judged it perfectly. 993 01:01:39,580 --> 01:01:42,580 Ooh, that smells like dog muck. 994 01:01:42,740 --> 01:01:45,420 Muck for luck. 995 01:01:45,620 --> 01:01:47,300 Who's stepped that in? 996 01:01:47,460 --> 01:01:49,700 Is it you, Darren? I don't know. 997 01:01:49,940 --> 01:01:53,020 Well, have a look, somebody's walked it in. 998 01:01:53,180 --> 01:01:55,860 Is there anything on there, Jim? 999 01:01:56,020 --> 01:02:00,180 No. Oh, no, I think it's me. 1000 01:02:02,820 --> 01:02:04,300 I'm sorry, Emma. 1001 01:02:04,500 --> 01:02:05,820 Cos I got on so well with Ralf, 1002 01:02:06,060 --> 01:02:08,060 it was really easy to play his girlfriend. 1003 01:02:08,420 --> 01:02:13,060 Whenever we were off-set, we were always having a laugh and chatting away, so we got on really well. 1004 01:02:17,020 --> 01:02:18,740 This is my mum, Valerie. 1005 01:02:19,020 --> 01:02:22,660 Mum, this is Mr and Mrs Royle, Jim and Barbara, Hello, Valerie. 1006 01:02:22,940 --> 01:02:25,660 Hello, Jim. Hello, Valerie. Hello, Barbara. 1007 01:02:25,820 --> 01:02:27,500 And this is my dad, Roger. 1008 01:02:27,780 --> 01:02:30,820 Hello, Roger. Hello, Jim. Hello, Roger. Hello, Barbara. 1009 01:02:31,060 --> 01:02:36,180 I love repetition, so it's, "Hi, Valerie. Hi, Roger." Yeah. 1010 01:02:36,460 --> 01:02:39,180 "Hi, Valerie. Hi, Roger," and it went on. 1011 01:02:39,340 --> 01:02:40,700 I love those sort of things. 1012 01:02:41,060 --> 01:02:45,940 Just goes on and on and on and it gets to a point where it becomes funny and funnier and funnier. 1013 01:02:46,220 --> 01:02:49,060 Sometimes even go on to where it doesn't get funnier. Yeah. 1014 01:02:49,300 --> 01:02:51,620 But then we just look at that in the edit and go, 1015 01:02:51,980 --> 01:02:56,460 "It's still funny, still funny. Oh, it's getting funnier. Right, that's it." 1016 01:02:56,700 --> 01:02:59,100 This is Denise and David. Hello, Valerie. 1017 01:02:59,260 --> 01:03:01,460 Hello, Denise. Hello, Roger. 1018 01:03:01,740 --> 01:03:03,260 Hello, Denise. Hello, Valerie. 1019 01:03:03,460 --> 01:03:05,140 Hello, David. Hello, Roger. 1020 01:03:05,420 --> 01:03:07,740 Hello, David. And that's Nana, over there. 1021 01:03:07,900 --> 01:03:10,700 Hello, Valerie. Hello, Nana. 1022 01:03:10,900 --> 01:03:14,180 Hello, Roger. Hello, Nana. 1023 01:03:14,380 --> 01:03:16,300 And this is Darren. Hello, Valerie. 1024 01:03:16,460 --> 01:03:18,340 Hello, Darren. Hello, Roger. 1025 01:03:18,580 --> 01:03:21,300 Hello, Darren. Ooh, isn't this lovely?! 1026 01:03:21,580 --> 01:03:23,940 I do love repetition of things like that. 1027 01:03:24,180 --> 01:03:27,420 And it's so much easier to write repetition. 1028 01:03:27,780 --> 01:03:33,460 That fills up a whole page sometimes, doing them repetition marks. 1029 01:03:33,620 --> 01:03:34,980 Come on then, come and sit down. 1030 01:03:35,220 --> 01:03:38,740 Come on everybody. Jim, put some music on. Jim. Jim. Jim! 1031 01:03:39,060 --> 01:03:43,660 It was great doing the special with my mum and dad coming into it because they really wind Jim up, 1032 01:03:43,980 --> 01:03:48,220 which is brilliant, and he doesn't mean to be rude, my dad, but he keeps putting its foot in it. 1033 01:03:50,220 --> 01:03:53,260 Hey, I tell you what, Jim, Valerie, you can organise this. 1034 01:03:53,460 --> 01:03:55,540 We'll get them all down on the boat. 1035 01:03:55,820 --> 01:03:57,420 It's a 42-footer, you know. WHISTLE 1036 01:03:59,180 --> 01:04:02,020 DAVE: Has it got a toilet? 1037 01:04:03,140 --> 01:04:06,020 It's got two. WOLF WHISTLE 1038 01:04:06,300 --> 01:04:10,300 That's great that, Rog, because my hovercraft's still being repaired. 1039 01:04:10,540 --> 01:04:14,140 Hey, I'm only from a place like this, I'm a self-made man. 1040 01:04:14,420 --> 01:04:16,620 Valerie, wasn't my mam's place as bad as this? 1041 01:04:16,860 --> 01:04:20,820 I mean, I didn't have a pot to piss in, me, and look at me now. 1042 01:04:21,100 --> 01:04:24,140 By the time myself and Sharon Duce, who played my wife in it, 1043 01:04:24,420 --> 01:04:26,780 we came on to the set and as you say it was three years, 1044 01:04:27,020 --> 01:04:29,500 and we were absolutely, you know, we was twitching, 1045 01:04:29,860 --> 01:04:34,140 the old backside was going half a crown, threepenny bit, if you'll pardon the expression. 1046 01:04:34,420 --> 01:04:37,660 We'd start looking at each other saying, "What are we doing here? 1047 01:04:37,900 --> 01:04:40,020 "National institution, we're going in..." 1048 01:04:40,260 --> 01:04:42,860 You could see the reviewers after the Christmas show, 1049 01:04:43,140 --> 01:04:44,980 "It was all right until they turned up." 1050 01:04:46,980 --> 01:04:50,780 I've got this woman I see in Hale, right, she calls herself a stress manager, 1051 01:04:51,060 --> 01:04:52,900 you know what I'm saying? I do, I do. 1052 01:04:53,060 --> 01:04:55,380 She specialises in masons, 1053 01:04:55,540 --> 01:04:56,980 she does all of us. 1054 01:04:58,620 --> 01:04:59,940 Jim, she knows some tricks. 1055 01:05:00,260 --> 01:05:03,780 I tell you what, she does things to me that Valerie couldn't even dream of. 1056 01:05:03,940 --> 01:05:05,180 Go 'way. 1057 01:05:07,180 --> 01:05:10,780 She lets me do things to her you wouldn't even do to a farmyard animal. 1058 01:05:11,060 --> 01:05:15,380 Come on, Rog, come on, you're having me on! 1059 01:05:15,660 --> 01:05:19,060 Roger, I made a farmyard for baby David. 1060 01:05:19,260 --> 01:05:20,580 Bloody hell, Dave! 1061 01:05:22,580 --> 01:05:26,740 We went on and everybody was so nice and so casual and relaxed about it, 1062 01:05:26,980 --> 01:05:31,300 you know, everybody, the cast and the crew and everybody. 1063 01:05:31,540 --> 01:05:34,500 They worked hard but it was so relaxed you just got into it, 1064 01:05:34,780 --> 01:05:37,180 you forgot you was working, you just did it 1065 01:05:37,460 --> 01:05:41,100 and there was so much laughing going on, it was great, a fantastic job. 1066 01:05:41,260 --> 01:05:42,820 All the best, Rogie! 1067 01:05:51,860 --> 01:05:54,700 Ooh, he's a big-headed get, him. It'll take him ten minutes 1068 01:05:54,980 --> 01:05:57,260 to get in the bloody car with his bloody big head! 1069 01:05:57,420 --> 01:05:58,700 He never stopped boasting, 1070 01:05:58,940 --> 01:06:01,940 his house, his car, and his bloody yacht, even his poor bloody wife. 1071 01:06:02,220 --> 01:06:04,660 You get one or two people shouting "Roger, my arse," 1072 01:06:04,900 --> 01:06:08,540 which was a catchphrase that was put on the crew T-shirt, 1073 01:06:08,700 --> 01:06:11,500 but yeah, they do, you know. 1074 01:06:11,740 --> 01:06:13,980 I went to a christening and somebody shouted, 1075 01:06:14,220 --> 01:06:16,700 "Hey, Potato Head!" Thanks very much for that. 1076 01:06:21,540 --> 01:06:23,780 Sky? 1077 01:06:23,940 --> 01:06:26,740 Sky TV? 1078 01:06:26,900 --> 01:06:28,580 You've got me Sky TV? 1079 01:06:31,020 --> 01:06:33,540 200 channels? 1080 01:06:33,700 --> 01:06:37,260 Ha-ha-ha-ha, Roger, my arse! 1081 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:51,840 Cantankerous, coarse, constantly rearranging his nether regions, 1082 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,120 picking his nose, or passing wind... 1083 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,200 PARP! 1084 01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:01,080 ..this lovable slob is impossible to dislike. 1085 01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,920 Some costume departments spend thousands and thousands of pounds 1086 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:09,800 on wardrobe obviously, don't they? 1087 01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:13,280 Particularly period pieces can spend tens of thousands of pounds. 1088 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,880 Now, they haven't spent that on Jim, I'm afraid. 1089 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:17,520 Pair of glasses, 1090 01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:23,280 old pair of dungarees, and the famous old sweater or T-shirt, call it what you will. 1091 01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,400 The lot wouldn't cost 20 bloody pounds, so that's Jim. 1092 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,960 When I finished filming of a night, I just throw it off in the corner, 1093 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:34,640 same as the trousers, put the glasses there and that's it, they stay there till the next day 1094 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,120 and the next day and the next they, and I never ever bother with them. 1095 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,640 Jim's a bit of an old slob and you can't have them nice and neat all the time. 1096 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,000 The three series and three Christmas specials, 1097 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:54,240 he's worn the same top and no-one's ever commented on it, the same top and jeans. Yeah. 1098 01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,360 No-one as ever said "Why is he wearing the same?" 1099 01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,800 And he wouldn't have it washed, would he? No. 1100 01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,880 But to be honest, the wardrobe women were secretly washing it. 1101 01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,400 Yeah, well, it walked out on its own at one point. 1102 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,800 He wanted to get into the character by not washing. 1103 01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:18,240 Hey, Barb, 1104 01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:22,040 does that look a little bit inflamed to you? Jim! 1105 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:26,920 Dad, we're eating! Eew. 1106 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,760 Mam, will you tell him? Jim, we're eating! 1107 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,520 When I leave here today, there will be... By the time I leave here and get home, 1108 01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:47,800 there will be at least 50 people who will shout my catchphrase at me. 1109 01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:49,680 Anne Robinson, my arse. 1110 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:53,600 Exit, my arse. Whoo! 1111 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,480 Bidet, my arse. 1112 01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,640 Hee-hee! Whoo! 1113 01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:01,280 My dad said, "My arse," all the time, that's where it came from, 1114 01:09:01,440 --> 01:09:03,240 but it was "Me arse, me arse," 1115 01:09:03,480 --> 01:09:07,920 because he was from Stockport and Ricky's a Scouser 1116 01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:09,840 so it became "My arse." 1117 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:14,320 It's absolutely wonderful and I'm made up with the success of the show 1118 01:09:14,480 --> 01:09:16,640 obviously and the success of Jim. 1119 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,840 # I know that some day 1120 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,600 # You'll want me 1121 01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,240 # To want you 1122 01:09:24,440 --> 01:09:27,640 # When I'm in love 1123 01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:33,200 # With somebody new 1124 01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:37,120 # You expect me to be true... # 1125 01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,000 Once series three had concluded and been transmitted, 1126 01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,320 it did feel that was the natural point to end 1127 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:46,160 and Caroline went off to do other things, Craig went off to do other things 1128 01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:50,200 and so I suppose a little bit like Fawlty Towers, 1129 01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,280 you think, "OK, that could be it." 1130 01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,080 Sometimes, you know, there is a need to take a break. 1131 01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,600 They had taken quite a long and extensive break, 1132 01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,600 and I was campaigning them both separately and together 1133 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,600 to try and think about bringing it back. 1134 01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,840 I hadn't written anything for a while, 1135 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:08,840 I never thought I ever would again, 1136 01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,560 and then my granny died and I remember coming home on the plane 1137 01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:18,760 and thinking, "That's what we'll do, we'll have the nana 1138 01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,280 "die in the Royle Family." 1139 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:26,080 Then that was what made me want to write again. 1140 01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:31,040 Yeah, she cashed in on her nana dying. 1141 01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:32,880 Ah, are you awake, Nana? 1142 01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,600 Yeah. Who's that? 1143 01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,320 Oh, hello, Denise! 1144 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:45,040 Hiya, Nana. Are you awake, Nana? Yeah. 1145 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,640 Hello, David. 1146 01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,720 Hiya, Nana. Are you awake, Mam? 1147 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,400 Oh, yeah. 1148 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,560 Hello, Barbara. 1149 01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:58,320 Hiya, Mam. Jim, Mam's awake. 1150 01:10:58,480 --> 01:11:00,800 Oh, better luck next time, eh? 1151 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:05,720 When we found out that Nana was going to die, 1152 01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,000 that was a big moment, that was a really big moment. 1153 01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,880 I remember sitting down with the three of them, saying, 1154 01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,800 "You need to let Liz know, this is not something 1155 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:18,000 "that Liz can have a script come through her front door one day 1156 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,880 "and suddenly find her character has been killed off." 1157 01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:26,720 And so I made this phone call to Liz, and she had guessed what was coming 1158 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:32,320 and it was one of the most difficult phone calls I think I've ever witnessed. 1159 01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,960 If the Royle Family is about families and truth, 1160 01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,000 which it is basically, 1161 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:42,160 then this is something that they will have to deal with. 1162 01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:47,320 And it's a journey that everybody has to go on, unfortunately, at some point. 1163 01:11:47,480 --> 01:11:50,360 # Que sera, sera 1164 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:54,600 # Whatever will be, will be 1165 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,320 # The future's not ours to see 1166 01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,960 # Que sera, sera 1167 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:06,400 # What will be, will be 1168 01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,520 # Que sera, sera. # 1169 01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:13,560 Cut, well done. 1170 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,600 APPLAUSE 1171 01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,600 I felt sad and elated at the same time. 1172 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,920 When you've got a good part and you know you've got a good part, 1173 01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,440 it was very nice to be doing it, 1174 01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:31,440 but at the same time, you were saying goodbye to it. 1175 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,800 It was very sad, really. 1176 01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,480 Even though it was sad, personally, 1177 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,560 it felt...sort of right. 1178 01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,400 It was like this amazing, emotional, beautiful moment 1179 01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:45,080 that they'd written and Liz was performing, and we said our goodbyes. 1180 01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,840 And it felt like we were sort of saying goodbye to Nana 1181 01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:51,160 and saying goodbye to the show and sort of giving it a send-off. 1182 01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:56,640 So, yeah, it was sad but, in a way, it felt kind of right. 1183 01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:00,480 Do you remember, Mam, you used to love a snakebite? 1184 01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,240 What is it again, is it half a cider and half a lager 1185 01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:04,880 or half a lager and half a ci... 1186 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:11,160 Mam? 1187 01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,080 Mam? 1188 01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:20,720 Mam... 1189 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:24,040 (Ma... ) 1190 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:28,880 Mam. 1191 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:30,400 Mam. 1192 01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:34,000 Mam! 1193 01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:37,800 JIM! 1194 01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:41,160 It was weird because during when we were shooting that, 1195 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:44,000 I got a call that my mother had been taken into hospital 1196 01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:48,040 and was seriously ill, so I spent the morning filming with Liz 1197 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:52,760 at her bedside and then rushed to Warrington General where my mother was. 1198 01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,880 So it was sort of like, and here I am back at this bedside, 1199 01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:02,120 and now I'm going over here to the real mother to her bedside, and it was a really strange time. 1200 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,200 Nana? Nana. 1201 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:29,560 Mam. 1202 01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,400 Are you all right, love? 1203 01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:37,840 It was one of the few times that we'd left the house, so we were out of our comfort zone 1204 01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:42,720 and we were working in a hospital, you know, and we were doing the thing and it was quite sad. 1205 01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,680 We were in two minds all the way through it, weren't we? 1206 01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:49,800 Yeah. And we just felt it would be daring to go to the hospital, 1207 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,040 and to have a hospital set built. 1208 01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:54,600 With it being an hour, as well, we had... 1209 01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:58,880 We couldn't have done that in real time. No, if you did an hour of just real time 1210 01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:03,520 it might start to grate, so we did it as a series of vignettes 1211 01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,680 that were punctuated with Johnny Cash songs 1212 01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,680 that could move time along, 1213 01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:16,120 and yet still maintain that sense of what the Royle Family had been about all along. 1214 01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,200 It was weird because she wasn't really dying 1215 01:15:28,440 --> 01:15:33,160 but she was dying in our little family. Yeah, as a character. 1216 01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:38,560 And we were all shocked at how much it actually upset us in filming it. 1217 01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:43,920 It was very strange. We're sitting in that corridor 1218 01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:49,000 and she's in the ward, and she's dying, and it was as if she was, it was awful. 1219 01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,400 We were sitting there and it was dead sombre, 1220 01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,800 no-one was talking, there was no usual banter in between takes. 1221 01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,400 It was like we'd captured the atmosphere, 1222 01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:02,200 we'd captured the moment, and I think it showed when people went in 1223 01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,720 one by one and said goodbye to her. 1224 01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,400 What were her last words, Barbara? 1225 01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,400 Trevor McDonald. 1226 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,320 Oh, Barbara. 1227 01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:17,600 What a fitting tribute to the man. Yeah. 1228 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:19,920 "Trevor McDonald." 1229 01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:25,920 Oh, I'm sorry but it's just, "Trevor McDonald," 1230 01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:31,040 and she said, "What a fitting tribute to the man." 1231 01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,320 And as someone who writes their own stuff... 1232 01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,600 ..oh, God, sorry you'll have to cut this out. 1233 01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:39,840 But as someone who writes their own stuff, 1234 01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:44,200 I look at that and think, "What were her last words? Trevor McDonald. 1235 01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:48,000 "What a fitting tribute to the man." 1236 01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:52,080 And I just think, "God, I've got a long way to go." 1237 01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:58,480 # Oh, I wish it could be Christmas every day... # 1238 01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:03,000 'We thought we'd tugged too many heartstrings by that time.' 1239 01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:08,320 We thought we'd just make it out and out daft and hopefully funny, really, with the New Sofa. 1240 01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:12,000 Yeah, so we went kind of slapstick for it. 1241 01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:16,640 # Let the bells ring out for Christmas... # 1242 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:21,560 In some respects we might have gone too far with the New Sofa because we kind of threw everything 1243 01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,200 in it and wanted to get away from 1244 01:17:23,480 --> 01:17:26,080 the Queen Of Sheba because we thought there was no point 1245 01:17:26,440 --> 01:17:30,800 even trying to go anywhere near that and I don't think it's right that we should. 1246 01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,280 So consequently when we wrote the New Sofa, 1247 01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,640 we decided let's put Craig in the bath with the turkey. 1248 01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,040 You couldn't tell which one was which. 1249 01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:41,680 # ...Christmas.... # 1250 01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:49,520 Seasons greetings, one and all. 1251 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,000 Merry Christmas, Barbara. 1252 01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:56,640 Merry Christmas, David senior. 1253 01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,880 Merry Christmas, Denise. 1254 01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:02,360 Merry Christmas, David senior. 1255 01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:06,280 We were thinking of who could play Dave's dad, and for some reason, 1256 01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,200 we thought of him and then thought, "He'll never do it." 1257 01:18:09,480 --> 01:18:12,600 But we were all thrilled to bits to be working with Tom Courtenay. 1258 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:16,160 We never believed for a minute that he'd do it, and he was such good fun 1259 01:18:16,440 --> 01:18:18,800 and we thought, "God, he's going to be all actory." 1260 01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,840 We were really worried and he was just brilliant, 1261 01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,800 really good fun, really lovely man. 1262 01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:29,600 This morning, Jimbo, excrement in the exhaust pipe. 1263 01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:31,840 What did you do that for? 1264 01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:35,800 Not me, next-door neighbours, the ongoing hedge dispute. 1265 01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,240 They put excrement in the exhaust pipe of the Mondeo. 1266 01:18:39,480 --> 01:18:44,360 Ooh, who needs excrement on a Christmas morning? 1267 01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:49,520 I was very intrigued and excited when I heard that I was being asked 1268 01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,640 to be in the Royle Family Christmas Special 1269 01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:58,360 and it was some days before the script arrived and so, in my imagination, 1270 01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:03,480 I'd tried to work out what the part could possibly be. 1271 01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,840 I was on the phone to him. He'd be ringing, wouldn't he, saying... 1272 01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:11,040 And he kept ringing saying, "I can't get David senior, I don't know who he is." 1273 01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:14,120 So we'd explain a bit more and then he'd ring back, 1274 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:18,280 "No, I still don't who he is, what's he like, what does he do?" 1275 01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:23,480 And then we wrote a bit more and he rang up and went, "Hello, I'm David senior." 1276 01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:24,840 So he'd got it! 1277 01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,280 20, take 1. 1278 01:19:31,480 --> 01:19:34,320 # Oh, the weather outside is frightful 1279 01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,280 # But the fire is so delightful 1280 01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,520 # Since you've no place to go 1281 01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:43,840 # Let it snow... # 1282 01:19:46,440 --> 01:19:49,720 He's the only person I've ever met that giggles as much as... 1283 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:53,400 As much as Craig. So I was delighted I'd found a kindred spirit. 1284 01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:55,880 And he's your dad in it. Yeah, he was my dad. 1285 01:19:56,120 --> 01:20:00,720 But he was just brilliant, a lovely fella, really lovely man. 1286 01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:05,800 Any waiters...in your family, Jimbo, that you know of? 1287 01:20:10,440 --> 01:20:13,920 My chiropodist, Cassandra Colby-Culshaw, 1288 01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:18,120 incidentally the country's leading corn remover, bar none, none. 1289 01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:22,360 She lost her husband, Clarence Colby... 1290 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,280 Her cat, do you know... 1291 01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,920 Carry on, David senior, take no notice. 1292 01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:38,480 No, incidentally... 1293 01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,120 What am I saying? 1294 01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:46,000 Her cat, do you know, it's only got one ball? Oh! 1295 01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,520 Yes, it's a uni-ball. 1296 01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,840 Ooooh. A uni-ball? 1297 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:52,880 Yep. 1298 01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,040 I wanted a cat but... 1299 01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:04,560 Hang on. Right... 1300 01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:09,960 3, 2, 1... 1301 01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,880 Shh, I'm getting dead mad with myself. Right... 1302 01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,400 Did you read about that daft old woman in Surrey? 1303 01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:26,720 No. What's that? 1304 01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,200 Oh, just get the drinks in. 1305 01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,240 ALL LAUGH 1306 01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:35,760 Right? Right, right. 1307 01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:40,400 # Oh, the weather outside is frightful 1308 01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:45,320 # But the fire is so delightful 1309 01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:49,080 # Since we've no place to go 1310 01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:53,000 # Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow. # 1311 01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,520 You are a miserable sod, Jim, you are. 1312 01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:05,760 It is over 20 years since these couch potato telly addicts 1313 01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:10,480 slumped into our sitting rooms and revolutionised comedy. 1314 01:22:14,440 --> 01:22:16,800 Scooping a staggering 22 awards, 1315 01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:21,720 the Royle Family is one of Britain's most successful sitcoms. 1316 01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,120 To me mam and dad, Jim and Barbara. 1317 01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:26,440 ALL: Jim and Barbara. 1318 01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:31,080 And almost 12 million of us joined Jim and Barb 1319 01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:34,000 as they celebrated their golden wedding anniversary, 1320 01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:39,040 making the Golden Egg Cup the highest-rating Christmas show of 2009. 1321 01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:45,280 Have you decided where you're going to go with your anniversary money? 1322 01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:49,080 Yes, now, tomorrow, I am going to tootle off down to Currys 1323 01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,400 where I shall purchase a Sky HD box. 1324 01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:55,480 Dad, that money was for a romantic holiday. 1325 01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,880 Do you know, I've only had one holiday in my life 1326 01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,680 and that was a week for our honeymoon in Ormskirk? 1327 01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:05,920 Do you remember it, Jim? Yeah. That's when you got your little Jim stuck in your zip. 1328 01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:10,840 Yeurgh! 1329 01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,920 Lots of people have said over the years, "Will you ever leave the lounge? 1330 01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,560 "Will you ever leave the house? Will you ever...?" 1331 01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,400 and we'd jokingly say, "yeah, but we'd go in a caravan" 1332 01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,320 and then it became the natural place to go. 1333 01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,280 To the left a bit, Dave, and then up. 1334 01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:28,680 Ooh, that's it, yeah. 1335 01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:33,080 No, no, it's bloody gone again. Dave, stop waving the bloody thing about will you? 1336 01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:36,800 You're not conducting the Philharmonic bloody orchestra. 1337 01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:42,840 That's it! That's it. No! Higher, Dave, higher, higher. 1338 01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,040 Higher, Dave. Even higher, go on. 1339 01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:46,600 Higher, Dave. 1340 01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:50,200 Higher! Hurray! What's that like? 1341 01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:51,600 Dave, higher! 1342 01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:52,680 HIGHER! 1343 01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:57,760 It's raining out here. Don't worry about that, that's perfect. Yeah! 1344 01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,080 Ah. Oh, forget it, Dave, you're bloody useless. 1345 01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:04,000 If you want anything doing round here, do it your bloody self. 1346 01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:05,320 Barb, get up there, love. 1347 01:24:05,480 --> 01:24:07,480 # Every woman every man... # 1348 01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,920 # Join the caravan... # Aww, there's the old girl. 1349 01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:15,040 We spent many a happy hour squashed in here. 1350 01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:18,160 It doesn't smell as bad as it did when we were filming. 1351 01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,080 No it smelt of... Old ladies' knickers. 1352 01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:26,360 Yes. See this is the toilet, it wasn't actually in this position. 1353 01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:30,080 No, it was over there. But we have it put here because we wanted Ricky 1354 01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:34,920 on the toilet and unable to shut this door, for comic effect. 1355 01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:38,240 Dad, shut that door! 1356 01:24:38,480 --> 01:24:40,880 I can't get my bloody knees in, can I? 1357 01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:45,040 Wardrobe got me a codpiece or a jockstrap or something, 1358 01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,160 and I said, "I can't wear that, 1359 01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,640 "I'm not wearing that, it's phoney." 1360 01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:52,480 If you can't do it, don't do it. 1361 01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:56,240 And I wouldn't do it, so I'm sitting there like actually sitting on 1362 01:24:56,480 --> 01:24:59,400 the toilet with nothing on and fortunately, 1363 01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:04,640 they had the wide-angle lens on, so if anything happened I'd look a lot better off than I was really. 1364 01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:10,080 I think he thinks it is a treat to get his tackle out for everybody but... 1365 01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,120 It's only a treat for him. 1366 01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:15,280 Jacket potatoes? 1367 01:25:15,440 --> 01:25:17,720 Can't think of anything worse. 1368 01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:24,800 He could not look down at it. 1369 01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:28,160 I knew that every time I looked down, 1370 01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,840 I'd see it and you can see in some of the out-takes, 1371 01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:34,680 I don't think you can see it on the actual programme, 1372 01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,440 Ricky was leaning back here where the toilet was and was just like this... 1373 01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,680 And his legs were going and we could only see his legs. 1374 01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,800 But we could only see his legs but I could see him laughing, 1375 01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:50,320 knowing that I'd have to just see it, like, go... 1376 01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,440 Jacket bloody potatoes? All the way here! 1377 01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,800 I can't... Keep rolling... 1378 01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:06,480 Keep rolling, keep rolling. 1379 01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:12,520 Shh... 1380 01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:28,520 Shut up, you! 1381 01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:30,640 You could have had it then! 1382 01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:32,880 I think we did go too far with the skiddy 1383 01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:36,320 because a lot of my mum's friends complained that they didn't want 1384 01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:38,360 to see a skiddy on Christmas Day. 1385 01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:40,680 Boxing Day would have been perfect. 1386 01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:44,240 Fine, that's skiddy day. Christmas Eve, but...Christmas Day. 1387 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:50,640 In actual fact, them underpants, they're Ricky's real underpants but we had to clean them up a bit. 1388 01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:56,760 Which famous celebrity quiz show host has a self-satisfied wink at the end of every show? 1389 01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:58,280 Noel Edmonds! 1390 01:26:58,440 --> 01:26:59,320 No. Anne Robinson. 1391 01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:00,920 Correct. Yes! 1392 01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:02,680 Oh, WINK! 1393 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:10,000 Who famously said, I want to be alone? 1394 01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:12,000 Want to be alone. 1395 01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:16,400 I'll have to hurry you. 1396 01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:17,920 Is it Terry Waite? 1397 01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:21,280 Was it balls Terry Waite? He didn't want to be alone, did he? 1398 01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:24,600 He was held captive, that poor sod, for bloody five years 1399 01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:26,920 and tied to a bloody radiator. 1400 01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:30,640 Oh, well, at least he was warm. Aww. 1401 01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,760 Yeah, Terry Waite tied to the radiator. 1402 01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:37,120 He actually wrote in, I mean, his brother wrote in to say, 1403 01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,440 because there was a bit of a kerfuffle about him, 1404 01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:44,840 about mentioning Terry Waite being tied to a radiator et cetera. 1405 01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:51,000 And his brother wrote in and said how much they'd enjoyed it. 1406 01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:54,880 So Terry would be sat there, I bet he was sat there on Christmas Day 1407 01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:58,960 going "Oh, it's great, great being out, isn't it? 1408 01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:00,480 "Yeah, anyway, what's on? 1409 01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:03,080 "Oh, the Royle Family. Oh, what?" 1410 01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:05,600 But he laughed, he had a good laugh about it. 1411 01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:12,720 It's a privilege to do a show like this. Yeah, it is. 1412 01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,040 With such lovely a cast. And crew. 1413 01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:20,240 Yeah, fantastic crew over the years, and for it to kind of endure... 1414 01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:26,080 It's a gloomy world, isn't it, sometimes, so to brighten the corners a little bit. 1415 01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,440 Yeah. It's nice. 1416 01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:31,520 Look at Craig brightening the corners of the world. 1417 01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:33,880 Not of the world, people's living rooms. 1418 01:28:41,440 --> 01:28:46,440 I think it's some of the best writing that has been on the television. 1419 01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,080 Thank you, Jim. It's a pleasure, David. 1420 01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:53,280 The Office would not have happened without the Royle Family breaking the mould. 1421 01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,760 Phoenix Nights would definitely not have happened. 1422 01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:59,600 There's before the Royle Family and that after the Royle Family. 1423 01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:03,800 I'm managing a band. ALL LAUGH 1424 01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:11,400 Bloody hell, it's Brian Epstein! 1425 01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:16,480 It was an absolute privilege to be part of and I forget that I'm in it, 1426 01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:21,640 I watch it and go this is absolutely just mesmerising, it's astonishing, and then every now and again 1427 01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:25,840 I go "Oh, look, there's me." So, yes, it's a real big deal. 1428 01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:27,680 Have you had your teas? 1429 01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:29,280 Yeah. Yeah. 1430 01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,680 What did you have? Roast chicken. 1431 01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:36,040 Roast chicken?! 1432 01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:37,520 Crisps. 1433 01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:43,040 It's brought me so much pleasure and such happiness and so, yeah... 1434 01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,240 Proud - 100%. 1435 01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:48,000 Olive oil, my arse! 1436 01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:55,200 I was delighted when I got the part in the Royle Family and it's gone 1437 01:29:55,520 --> 01:30:00,080 from strength to strength, and Jim's popularity has gone from strength to strength. 1438 01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:03,160 HE IMPERSONATES TAGGART There's been a murder. 1439 01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:05,360 Dave, do you know if you say one more time, 1440 01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:08,000 HE IMPERSONATES TAGGART "There's been a murder," 1441 01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:10,960 I'll bloody murder... 1442 01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:15,680 They say if you love your work, you never work a day in your life. 1443 01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,520 Well, we'd do it if we didn't get paid, wouldn't we? 1444 01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:20,760 I don't know... I wouldn't go that far, love. 1445 01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:22,240 OK, don't put that in. 1446 01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:27,040 Demanding more for our fees. 1447 01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:30,040 No, but it is a joy, 1448 01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:34,360 it really is a joy, and I think we're very, very lucky, aren't we? 1449 01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:36,520 Yeah, we are. Really lucky. 1450 01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:47,320 Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd