1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:05,500 Dad's Army is one of Britain's most beloved sitcoms. 2 00:00:05,500 --> 00:00:08,300 The Germans are coming! Don't panic! The Germans are coming! 3 00:00:08,300 --> 00:00:14,960 The iconic, energetically delivered catchphrases alone have become part of the national lexicon. 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,500 Stupid boy! They don't like it up 'em! We're doomed! 5 00:00:18,500 --> 00:00:20,700 Doomed I am, doomed! 6 00:00:20,700 --> 00:00:23,300 Yes, we love Dad's Army! 7 00:00:23,300 --> 00:00:26,800 The thing that we loved about it was it was just always, always funny. 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,040 SHE LAUGHS Just...just funny. 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,880 It's the character, it's the writing. Those are the things that have given it its longevity. 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,960 In fact, we've always loved it. 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,120 It's still shown every day on the telly somewhere. 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,800 Even my daughter who's 13 finds it hilarious. 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,640 Yes, Dad's Army's often raucous comedy 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,640 simply transcends age. 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:55,680 Over the next 90 minutes, we'll discover the surprisingly low-key starting point. 16 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,280 No... Nobody was laughing. 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,560 Reveal what the cast were really like when the cameras stopped rolling. 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,800 Arthur the person was as patriotic as Mainwaring the character. 19 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,000 Please, do you mind? "Mr Lowe." 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,960 Reminisce about the times before health and safety. 21 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:15,360 You'd wonder whether they'd sit down and go, "What can we get Clive to do this week? 22 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,600 "What absurd thing can we persuade him to do? 23 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,680 "And he'll say yes, won't he?" 24 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,200 Enjoy some rare behind-the-scenes archive. 25 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,200 Well, happy birthday, young man. 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,400 And hear the memories of the youngest member of the troupe 27 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,360 in an exclusive audio interview. 28 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:32,920 Schweinhund! 29 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,080 'Those were my director's notes. 30 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,280 '"You've got carte blanche. Do what you want."' 31 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,560 As we discover exactly why we love Dad's Army. 32 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,000 This is in many ways the perfect situation for comedy to happen in. 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,400 Still after all these years, it's probably one of the best British sitcoms ever made. 34 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,440 LAUGHTER 35 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,640 All right, settle down, everyone. 36 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,440 I love Dad's Army now because I'm nostalgic 37 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,760 for that period when I was a kid growing up 38 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,640 and watching that show which was such a huge part of family life. 39 00:02:17,640 --> 00:02:21,880 There was something amazingly funny in the series, but also something very charming about it. 40 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,040 Godfrey, pick 'em up, pick 'em up! 41 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,160 I'm afraid they won't go any higher. 42 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,920 Written by the legendary combination of David Croft and Jimmy Perry, 43 00:02:32,920 --> 00:02:36,560 Dad's Army has been gracing our screens since 1968. 44 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,480 I can't get enough of it. I'm amazed that there are 80 episodes 45 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,560 and 80 episodes are just amazing. 46 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,360 I think it's so popular because, A, it's clean and, B, 47 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,200 people love seeing men in authority making fools of themselves. 48 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,240 I shouldn't go too far that way, Mr Mainwaring. There's a great big... 49 00:02:55,240 --> 00:03:01,320 Led by the pompous Captain Mainwaring and his urbane number two Sergeant Wilson, 50 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,080 the platoon also featured Corporal Jones 51 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,320 and Privates Walker, Godfrey, Frazer and Pike 52 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,400 who inspired perhaps the show's most famous moment. 53 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:17,280 This is still one of the best lines in any sitcom ever. 54 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:23,040 It's just an amazingly funny moment because it really highlights what's wrong in their leadership. 55 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,800 Write what you like. You're not gonna win this war. Oh, yes, we are. 56 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,080 Oh, no, you're not. Oh, yes, we are! 57 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,280 # Whistle while you work 58 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,360 # Hitler is a twerp 59 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,480 # He's half barmy, so's his army Whistle while you... # 60 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,400 Your name will also go on the list. 61 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,480 What is it? 62 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,720 Don't tell him, Pike! Pike, thank you. 63 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,400 'So, yes, I am at the top of those steps 64 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,960 'and the only way I can stop from laughing 65 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,560 'is to bite the inside of my cheek. 66 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,080 'We finished the scene and I climbed down and gestured to the make-up girl. 67 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,160 'She comes over and I said, "Can I have a tissue, please?" 68 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,800 'And I spat out the blood from the inside... It was the only way I could not laugh on the shot. 69 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,400 'We didn't know it was gonna be like that, but we just knew it was a great line.' 70 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,920 HE LAUGHS It's funny every time. 71 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,160 It tells you everything you need to know about that man, 72 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,840 those people, that situation, all in...in three words. 73 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,480 Four words. 74 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,400 The real Home Guard, 75 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,480 originally the Local Defence Volunteers, or LDV, 76 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,640 began life in 1940 with an announcement 77 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,880 by the Secretary of State for War, Anthony Eden. 78 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,760 'We want large numbers of men between the ages of 17 and 65.' 79 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:41,200 Actor, writer and theatre manager Jimmy Perry served in the Home Guard as a young man 80 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:46,520 and it was these experiences that later inspired what became Dad's Army. 81 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,120 I wrote this script and I called it The Fighting Tigers. 82 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,160 And then I was working for David Croft. 83 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,160 And he said, "What a great idea! Let's work on it together." 84 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,120 And the rest is history. 85 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,000 # Who do you think... # 86 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,840 Our love for the show starts at the very beginning 87 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:08,240 with these iconic opening titles. 88 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,280 I think that's probably the most watched historical representation 89 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:16,080 of the start of the Second World War that anyone has ever seen. 90 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,440 It's really, really amazing and very, very powerful imagery. 91 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:26,600 At its peak, 18 million people were singing along to Jimmy Perry's catchy theme tune, 92 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,800 but Dad's Army did not take off straight away. 93 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:32,920 The very first episode, 94 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:37,480 um...I remember Bill Pertwee did the warm-up 95 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,240 and he was brilliant. The audience were falling about laughing. 96 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,440 He was a superb warm-up artist. 97 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,680 And I thought, "Oh, lovely, lively audience. Marvellous." 98 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,560 And we got cracking and there was dead silence. 99 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,400 There's certainly an uncomfortably echoey feel 100 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,840 to this early exchange. 101 00:05:55,840 --> 00:05:59,240 Yes, Miss King? It's Anthony Eden, sir. In person? 102 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,480 On the wireless. They say it's very important. 103 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,880 And when I wasn't in a scene, sort of peering behind the flats, 104 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,920 nobody was laughing. 105 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,240 No... Nobody was laughing. 106 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,040 And it was such a disappointment. 107 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:20,640 And we thought we'd flopped and everyone was very subdued going up to the bar afterwards. 108 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,200 Underwhelming. I think we felt underwhelmed. 109 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:31,800 The less than spectacular response appeared to confirm concerns about the subject matter. 110 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,360 What did the higher-ups think of the series when you first broached it 111 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,720 or indeed when you'd had the first series? 112 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,240 It didn't take off straight away. 113 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,760 There was the thought that perhaps we were taking the mickey 114 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,320 out of England's finest hour, so they weren't all that keen. 115 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,880 It was the same when you started, wasn't it? Yeah. What? 116 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,520 You see, a lot of people took the Home Guard very, very seriously. It was a serious thing. 117 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,880 It seemed a silly idea, really. I was in the Home Guard 118 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,240 and nothing was so inexpressibly boring as being in the Home Guard. 119 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,880 I couldn't see how you could entertain people. 120 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,440 In the late '60s when they made Dad's Army, it wasn't a far-distant event. It had just happened. 121 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,120 The effects were still very much present in British society. 122 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,680 You had bits of London that were still bombed out, 123 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,440 so to go back and have a laugh about it, that's edgy. 124 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:22,280 Yet Dad's Army never hid from the genuine difficulties the Home Guard faced. 125 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,520 From the start, authenticity was key. 126 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,160 I researched very fully and made sure 127 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,840 that everything that was on the screen 128 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,000 as far as I had been concerned in it was the real thing. 129 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,000 All Home Guard, when they first started out, had no weapons at all. 130 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,960 So, you know, they would have spears on the end of broomsticks. 131 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:48,320 It was historically very accurate, particularly those early episodes when they haven't got uniforms, 132 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,320 they haven't got weapons and you're in suits, bowler hats 133 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,320 and a broomstick for a weapon. 134 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,120 Very sweet. 135 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,240 What's that supposed to be, boy? You said, "If you haven't got anything else, 136 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,160 "tie a carving knife to a broom handle." 137 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,560 I didn't say keep the brush on the end of it, you stupid boy! 138 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,880 You should've said! I don't want any insubordination. 139 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,920 Take this man's name. What's your name, lad? 140 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:11,080 You should know by now. You've been a friend of my mum's since before I was born. 141 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,680 When it started, my father was in the Home Guard, 142 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,480 and he loved it because it was all so real. 143 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:22,800 He had a broom with a knife tied to it too as a weapon. 144 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,240 I remember my dad absolutely loving it 145 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,880 because it brought back so many memories for him and my mum. 146 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,600 I've seen photographs of them with sharpened sticks and, like, hoes. 147 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:37,960 And garden forks! Make do and mend, you know? 148 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,680 Croft and Perry loved to imagine their accident-prone platoon 149 00:08:41,680 --> 00:08:45,840 learning the same field skills as the real Home Guard. 150 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,320 Countryside camouflage was a particular favourite. 151 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,840 At the double, line up for your short briefs! 152 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,560 I did it in basic training and I do remember it 153 00:08:57,560 --> 00:09:00,840 because we used to literally get the trees and the branches 154 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,800 and stick 'em in all bits of us. 155 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:07,240 And this genuine river crossing exercise is not quite emulated 156 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,880 by the troupe as Clive Dunn expertly builds tension 157 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,280 towards the gloriously inevitable pay-off. 158 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,200 Don't look down. Eh? 159 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,040 Don't look...dow-ow... 160 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,880 Aagh! 161 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,120 'The simple idea of Dad's Army, of laughing at the LDV...' 162 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,840 I told you not to look at my feet! 163 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,760 It's funny cos it's true. 164 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:34,720 After the break, we look at the internal squabbles of the officer class. 165 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,760 I think it's time I... LAUGHTER 166 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,920 That wonderful war between the petty-bourgeois man 167 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,920 and the man who has really got some style and class. 168 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,760 And we get the lowdown on Mainwaring's struggles with the scripts. 169 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,920 He did become quite well known for not knowing his lines. 170 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:56,320 One day he came in and he didn't know the words terribly well, did he, in one episode. 171 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,050 And David said... Only one episode? 172 00:10:02,730 --> 00:10:05,970 Welcome back to We Love Dad's Army. 173 00:10:05,970 --> 00:10:08,330 Look me straight in the eyes, Wilson. Right, sir. Look out! 174 00:10:09,530 --> 00:10:12,690 Perhaps the key to why we love Dad's Army 175 00:10:12,690 --> 00:10:16,730 is how much we enjoy watching the deliciously fractious partnership 176 00:10:16,730 --> 00:10:21,450 between the two officers charged with leading this ragtag platoon. 177 00:10:21,930 --> 00:10:25,570 The relationship between Mainwaring and Wilson is fascinating 178 00:10:25,570 --> 00:10:27,650 and it's kind of like a marriage. 179 00:10:27,650 --> 00:10:29,890 I think it's time I took charge here. 180 00:10:29,890 --> 00:10:34,170 You've got Mainwaring who needs everyone to see him as being the person in charge, 181 00:10:34,170 --> 00:10:37,010 but ultimately he's the one who needs all the help. 182 00:10:37,010 --> 00:10:40,370 And Wilson is this kind of casual, relaxed character 183 00:10:40,370 --> 00:10:43,930 which you would have to be to put up with this blustering nincompoop. 184 00:10:43,930 --> 00:10:47,650 Wilson is rather louche and public school 185 00:10:47,650 --> 00:10:51,930 and Mainwaring is very much not. The thing is that Wilson couldn't care less about it. 186 00:10:51,930 --> 00:10:55,330 I think in one episode he says to him, "I think you've got a chip on your shoulder." 187 00:10:55,330 --> 00:10:58,210 I should've known not to trust that smarmy Captain Stewart. 188 00:10:58,210 --> 00:11:00,850 You can't blame him, sir. He's got a job to do. 189 00:11:00,850 --> 00:11:02,890 Oh, you'll stick up for him, won't you? 190 00:11:02,890 --> 00:11:05,250 You both went to public schools, didn't you? 191 00:11:06,370 --> 00:11:10,650 I can't help feeling, sir, you've got a little bit of a chip on your shoulder about that. 192 00:11:10,650 --> 00:11:15,570 There's no chip on my shoulder. I tell you what is on my shoulder. Three pips and don't you forget it! 193 00:11:15,570 --> 00:11:17,930 The whole contrast between... 194 00:11:17,930 --> 00:11:22,210 The whole class system, if you like, is laid bare there. 195 00:11:22,210 --> 00:11:26,050 It's that wonderful class war between the petty-bourgeois man 196 00:11:26,050 --> 00:11:29,450 and the man who has really got some style and class to him. 197 00:11:29,450 --> 00:11:31,930 I think that's what's given it its longevity 198 00:11:31,930 --> 00:11:34,930 because I think that's as relevant today as it was then. 199 00:11:34,930 --> 00:11:37,250 Where have you been? I went up to the golf club 200 00:11:37,250 --> 00:11:39,890 and had a bite to eat up there. The golf club? Yes. 201 00:11:39,890 --> 00:11:42,570 Who took you? Well, I'm a member. 202 00:11:43,650 --> 00:11:45,730 You're a member? Since when? 203 00:11:45,730 --> 00:11:49,410 Well, you see, when the committee heard about this title thing, 204 00:11:49,410 --> 00:11:52,330 they asked me if I would, you know, like to join. 205 00:11:55,530 --> 00:11:57,970 I've been trying for years to get in there. 206 00:11:57,970 --> 00:12:00,450 I believe they're awfully particular. 207 00:12:05,690 --> 00:12:07,890 The brilliant thing about the relationship 208 00:12:07,890 --> 00:12:10,930 between Wilson and Mainwaring is Mainwaring's the captain, 209 00:12:10,930 --> 00:12:14,170 Wilson's the sergeant and it should be the other way round. 210 00:12:14,170 --> 00:12:17,130 In all the military history you ever read, 211 00:12:17,130 --> 00:12:20,970 it's the sergeants who know what's going on and the captains who give the orders. 212 00:12:20,970 --> 00:12:24,490 Croft and Perry knew that and they're using the comedy to illustrate that idea. 213 00:12:24,490 --> 00:12:27,530 Most of the junior ranks will listen to the sergeant, definitely, 214 00:12:27,530 --> 00:12:30,810 so you can see the interaction there between Wilson and Mainwaring 215 00:12:30,810 --> 00:12:33,250 because whereas Mainwaring's the captain 216 00:12:33,250 --> 00:12:36,290 and should be kind of the one that's leading everything, 217 00:12:36,290 --> 00:12:38,850 it's always gonna be the sergeant that takes over. 218 00:12:38,850 --> 00:12:41,290 "Do you really think that's wise, sir?" 219 00:12:41,290 --> 00:12:43,810 John Le Mesurier as Wilson, 220 00:12:43,810 --> 00:12:45,970 I mean, it just says it all. 221 00:12:45,970 --> 00:12:48,210 He's not really asking the question. 222 00:12:48,210 --> 00:12:51,450 He's telling him, "That's not wise." 223 00:12:51,450 --> 00:12:55,530 I'll go through first. I won't ask my men to do anything I can't do. 224 00:12:55,530 --> 00:12:57,810 Do you think that's wise, sir? Wilson... 225 00:12:57,810 --> 00:13:01,650 just get the rest of the platoon ready to come through. All right, sir, yeah. 226 00:13:01,650 --> 00:13:05,970 He never actually calls him a fool. He just asks him if he's a fool over and over again. It's brilliant. 227 00:13:05,970 --> 00:13:08,730 They may have been at loggerheads on screen, 228 00:13:08,730 --> 00:13:11,570 but off screen, despite press rumours at the time, 229 00:13:11,570 --> 00:13:13,650 the reality was quite different. 230 00:13:13,650 --> 00:13:16,890 John Le Mes and Arthur got on terribly well 231 00:13:16,890 --> 00:13:19,130 with each other and they were good friends. 232 00:13:19,130 --> 00:13:22,050 And even on screen, underneath the bickering, 233 00:13:22,050 --> 00:13:25,010 sometimes we would catch glimpses of mutual respect, 234 00:13:25,010 --> 00:13:27,210 even friendship between them. 235 00:13:27,210 --> 00:13:32,410 I mean, although Wilson does snipe rather cleverly at Mainwaring, 236 00:13:32,410 --> 00:13:35,250 there are wonderful scenes of camaraderie between them, 237 00:13:35,250 --> 00:13:39,850 particularly the scene when they're trapped in the bank with the bomb. 238 00:13:39,850 --> 00:13:43,290 I don't think I can stand very much more of this. 239 00:13:44,330 --> 00:13:47,210 Oh, come on, Wilson. Cheer up. 240 00:13:47,210 --> 00:13:52,690 It's a lovely warmth between them and just such a wonderful pair of character actors working together. 241 00:13:52,690 --> 00:13:56,170 I'm reminded of the tale of the Australian soldier. 242 00:13:56,170 --> 00:13:59,330 He arrived up at the front and was met by a British officer 243 00:13:59,330 --> 00:14:02,210 who said, "Ah, my man, have you come to die?" 244 00:14:02,210 --> 00:14:04,250 And he said, "No, sir. 245 00:14:04,250 --> 00:14:06,250 "I came 'yester-die'." 246 00:14:13,530 --> 00:14:15,930 It's a play on the words, you see, 247 00:14:15,930 --> 00:14:19,090 on the pronunciation of the word "die". Yes. 248 00:14:20,610 --> 00:14:22,890 Do you get it? WILSON CHUCKLES 249 00:14:22,890 --> 00:14:25,690 Yes, I do get it, yes. Yeah. 250 00:14:25,690 --> 00:14:28,210 The two of them were like old-fashioned, 251 00:14:28,210 --> 00:14:31,090 film star double acts. 252 00:14:31,090 --> 00:14:33,250 They were like Laurel and Hardy. 253 00:14:33,250 --> 00:14:35,290 I mean, they were incredible. 254 00:14:35,290 --> 00:14:38,210 But that partnership almost didn't happen. 255 00:14:38,210 --> 00:14:43,410 Arthur Lowe had made his name on ITV as Leonard Swindley in Coronation Street. 256 00:14:43,410 --> 00:14:45,490 I haven't made the tea yet. 257 00:14:45,490 --> 00:14:49,010 I thought perhaps we ought to wait until Mr Fairclough arrived. 258 00:14:49,010 --> 00:14:52,570 Yes. Let's hope he'll forgive the absence of anything stronger. 259 00:14:54,290 --> 00:14:58,730 And Jimmy Perry had trouble convincing BBC Head of Comedy Michael Mills 260 00:14:58,730 --> 00:15:01,090 that Lowe should be their Mainwaring. 261 00:15:02,410 --> 00:15:04,850 When I suggested Arthur Lowe, 262 00:15:04,850 --> 00:15:07,050 he said, "Arthur Lowe?" 263 00:15:07,050 --> 00:15:09,090 This is the BBC 30 years ago. 264 00:15:09,090 --> 00:15:11,410 "We don't know him, do we? 265 00:15:11,410 --> 00:15:14,170 "I mean, he doesn't work for us, does he? 266 00:15:14,170 --> 00:15:19,770 "Isn't he up north with that Granada thing in a back street somewhere?" "Yes." 267 00:15:20,810 --> 00:15:25,730 I think from the first script I read of Dad's Army, it was obvious 268 00:15:25,730 --> 00:15:27,810 that it was going to be good 269 00:15:27,810 --> 00:15:30,810 and that one could make something from the character 270 00:15:30,810 --> 00:15:34,810 without trying very hard, really, because it was there, it was self-explanatory. 271 00:15:34,810 --> 00:15:39,330 I think to a certain extent he became the character. He really did. 272 00:15:39,330 --> 00:15:43,210 You could see Mainwaring in him even at home sometimes. 273 00:15:43,210 --> 00:15:48,450 It's said that Mainwaring felt that whoever held Walmington-on-Sea held England. 274 00:15:48,450 --> 00:15:51,250 And that would be Arthur... 275 00:15:51,250 --> 00:15:53,330 That would be Arthur to a T. 276 00:15:53,330 --> 00:15:57,130 Are you anything like your character in Dad's Army, Captain Mainwaring? 277 00:15:57,130 --> 00:15:59,490 Oh, no, no, no. No, certainly not. 278 00:15:59,490 --> 00:16:03,090 I'm always being asked this question and the answer's definitely no. 279 00:16:03,090 --> 00:16:07,410 Captain Mainwaring's a very pompous man, you know. There's nothing pompous about me. 280 00:16:08,450 --> 00:16:10,490 That's very interesting, Arthur. 281 00:16:10,490 --> 00:16:12,530 Please, do you mind? "Mr Lowe." 282 00:16:12,530 --> 00:16:14,450 LAUGHTER 283 00:16:14,450 --> 00:16:19,850 Arthur Lowe is one of the most underrated actors, I think, in the history of British television. 284 00:16:19,850 --> 00:16:22,050 Oh, Mr Plinge! Where? 285 00:16:22,050 --> 00:16:24,650 You. Oh, yes, so I am. 286 00:16:24,650 --> 00:16:29,410 If you analyse how he played Mainwaring, it is sheer perfection. 287 00:16:29,410 --> 00:16:33,690 He said so much with his face, just gestures with his face, just an expression, 288 00:16:33,690 --> 00:16:35,690 just a fleeting thing. 289 00:16:35,690 --> 00:16:37,090 What? 290 00:16:38,370 --> 00:16:42,250 I'll have a double Scotch, please. 'He lived and breathed Mainwaring.' 291 00:16:42,250 --> 00:16:47,930 Even if he doesn't speak, you just couldn't imagine anyone else doing it. Perfect casting. 292 00:16:47,930 --> 00:16:50,370 And there are wonderful scenes, the scene with the wig, 293 00:16:50,370 --> 00:16:54,130 trying to get the wig on because he's worried about being too old. 294 00:16:59,690 --> 00:17:04,330 If you don't act those scenes well, they're just silly and slapstick 295 00:17:04,330 --> 00:17:06,970 and to get away with that is brilliant. 296 00:17:10,490 --> 00:17:16,450 At the end of the day, there's something wonderful about dead hair sat on top of a bald head. 297 00:17:16,450 --> 00:17:19,250 But it's great, it's great 298 00:17:19,250 --> 00:17:22,490 because Arthur Lowe is a master of playing it straight, 299 00:17:22,490 --> 00:17:25,930 an absolute god at playing it completely straight. 300 00:17:25,930 --> 00:17:27,930 What do you think of this? 301 00:17:30,210 --> 00:17:32,010 Oh, it's awful. 302 00:17:32,010 --> 00:17:33,490 What? 303 00:17:34,730 --> 00:17:37,850 No, no, no, it's awfully good. Awfully good. 304 00:17:37,850 --> 00:17:40,690 Dear, oh dear. LAUGHS LOUDLY 305 00:17:40,690 --> 00:17:43,730 Dear, oh dear, oh dear. LAUGHS LOUDLY 306 00:17:45,290 --> 00:17:47,890 LAUGHTER GETS LOUDER 307 00:17:47,890 --> 00:17:49,930 Watch it, Wilson. 308 00:17:49,930 --> 00:17:51,810 You might snap your girdle. 309 00:17:53,210 --> 00:17:57,450 That whole scene, you never see him crack at all. 310 00:17:57,450 --> 00:17:59,650 He wrote books and lyrics, 311 00:17:59,650 --> 00:18:03,010 as well as production numbers with Cyril Ornadel... 312 00:18:03,010 --> 00:18:04,970 LAUGHTER 313 00:18:10,730 --> 00:18:13,170 I wish I'd read this before I came. 314 00:18:13,170 --> 00:18:16,290 LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE 315 00:18:18,570 --> 00:18:23,490 The thing about Arthur, he did a great deal of other work as well 316 00:18:23,490 --> 00:18:27,290 and he would really focus on Dad's Army 317 00:18:27,290 --> 00:18:31,810 on the day that Dad's Army was in the studio. 318 00:18:31,810 --> 00:18:37,130 And he did become quite well known for not knowing his lines. 319 00:18:37,130 --> 00:18:40,290 One day he came in and he didn't know the words terribly well 320 00:18:40,290 --> 00:18:42,970 in one episode and David said... Only one episode? 321 00:18:42,970 --> 00:18:45,210 LAUGHTER 322 00:18:46,010 --> 00:18:49,570 David Croft said, "Now take the script home and learn it. 323 00:18:49,570 --> 00:18:52,650 "Don't put it in the desk. Take it home and learn it." 324 00:18:52,650 --> 00:18:56,850 He said, "Certainly not. I'm not having rubbish like that in my house." 325 00:18:56,850 --> 00:18:59,090 LAUGHTER 326 00:18:59,090 --> 00:19:01,130 That was what it was like. 327 00:19:01,130 --> 00:19:03,970 He came home and he was at home. 328 00:19:03,970 --> 00:19:06,690 I mean, I have ridden in taxis with Arthur 329 00:19:06,690 --> 00:19:10,930 where I've been asked not to speak because he's been reading the script, 330 00:19:10,930 --> 00:19:13,290 possibly for the first time, in the taxi. 331 00:19:13,290 --> 00:19:15,610 He was actually a very quick study. 332 00:19:15,610 --> 00:19:20,490 I mean, the reason he didn't know his lines would be because he hadn't looked at them. 333 00:19:21,730 --> 00:19:23,930 Now to an actor without whom no history 334 00:19:23,930 --> 00:19:26,490 of post-war British cinema would be complete. 335 00:19:26,490 --> 00:19:31,490 It would be quicker, in fact, to list the films he hasn't been in than to list the ones he has. 336 00:19:31,490 --> 00:19:34,090 Ladies and gentlemen, John Le Mesurier. 337 00:19:34,090 --> 00:19:40,410 Like Arthur Lowe, John Le Mesurier was a familiar face to British audiences before Dad's Army, 338 00:19:40,410 --> 00:19:46,250 appearing in dozens of films and acting with comic legends such as Peter Sellers and Tony Hancock. 339 00:19:48,370 --> 00:19:52,850 And just as Lowe resembled Mainwaring, Le Mesurier mirrored Sergeant Wilson. 340 00:19:52,850 --> 00:19:56,330 In fact, he should have won an Oscar for being vague, 341 00:19:56,330 --> 00:20:00,570 but he made quite a good life for himself 342 00:20:00,570 --> 00:20:03,530 by having other people look after him. 343 00:20:03,530 --> 00:20:05,850 I mean, he didn't even like driving. 344 00:20:05,850 --> 00:20:08,130 Once he got sort of fed up with it, 345 00:20:08,130 --> 00:20:12,050 he just left his car underneath Wandsworth's flyover and walked away. 346 00:20:13,730 --> 00:20:16,010 I was fascinated watching them work. 347 00:20:16,010 --> 00:20:18,970 John Le Mesurier was so casual, 348 00:20:18,970 --> 00:20:24,050 very laid-back. He was always first at the rehearsal room, sitting quietly in the corner. 349 00:20:24,050 --> 00:20:28,490 The thing about Wilson is, because he's so laissez-faire and louche 350 00:20:28,490 --> 00:20:32,370 and, you know, it really doesn't matter, sort of rather languid about things, 351 00:20:32,370 --> 00:20:35,930 he could be fantastically irritating because of that, but he's not. 352 00:20:35,930 --> 00:20:38,810 We really like him just because he's a real character. 353 00:20:38,810 --> 00:20:44,050 Wilson's laid-back nature perhaps reached its zenith when he refused to be caught up 354 00:20:44,050 --> 00:20:47,090 in a spot of role play with Fulton Mackay's Captain Ramsey. 355 00:20:47,090 --> 00:20:49,530 Right, right, right! BLOWS WHISTLE LOUDLY 356 00:20:49,530 --> 00:20:51,610 Now I'm a Gestapo officer. 357 00:20:51,610 --> 00:20:55,650 Now, you, Sergeant... Hmm, yes? What are you doing in France? 358 00:20:55,650 --> 00:20:57,850 Well, I'm not in France. Oh, yes, you are. 359 00:20:57,850 --> 00:21:01,570 You dropped by parachute, I captured you and now I'm interrogating you. 360 00:21:01,570 --> 00:21:05,330 Oh, I see. Oh, bonjour. What do you want to know? 361 00:21:05,330 --> 00:21:08,170 You're not supposed to tell me anything! 362 00:21:08,170 --> 00:21:10,650 Now, what are you doing in France? 363 00:21:10,650 --> 00:21:14,890 I don't know. You were trying to blow up a munitions factory. 364 00:21:14,890 --> 00:21:18,130 All right, I was trying to blow up a munitions factory. 365 00:21:18,130 --> 00:21:21,690 So, you admit it. Oh, really, this is too absurd. 366 00:21:21,690 --> 00:21:25,130 Right, I'll show you how absurd it is! 367 00:21:26,610 --> 00:21:29,770 I'm putting matches underneath your fingernails. 368 00:21:29,770 --> 00:21:31,850 I'm setting light to them. 369 00:21:31,850 --> 00:21:34,810 They're burning down. Now they've reached your fingers. 370 00:21:34,810 --> 00:21:36,810 You're in agony. 371 00:21:36,810 --> 00:21:38,850 How do you like that? 372 00:21:38,850 --> 00:21:40,930 Well, to be absolutely honest, 373 00:21:40,930 --> 00:21:43,290 it isn't really bothering me very much. 374 00:21:46,010 --> 00:21:48,570 He was born to play Sergeant Wilson, 375 00:21:48,570 --> 00:21:51,610 I mean, at all times reading 9.8 on the meter. 376 00:21:51,610 --> 00:21:55,530 So, how do you occupy yourself when you're not actually acting? 377 00:21:55,530 --> 00:22:00,410 I don't know. I just sit about and play music and stare out of the window from time to time. 378 00:22:00,410 --> 00:22:04,450 People say to me, "What's the matter, John? You're not upset or worried or anything?" 379 00:22:04,450 --> 00:22:10,490 And I often find myself saying, "Well, no, I'm not at all. I'm all right, you know, OK." 380 00:22:10,490 --> 00:22:15,810 I'm not one of... People have... You can't help the way your face is built, can you, really? 381 00:22:15,810 --> 00:22:18,010 He was such a lovely man. 382 00:22:18,010 --> 00:22:21,050 I felt so sorry for him. He was, um... 383 00:22:22,810 --> 00:22:25,290 He'd had such unhappy marriages, hadn't he? 384 00:22:25,290 --> 00:22:30,490 I knew of him through my landlady Peggy Ann who was a great friend of Hattie Jacques, one of his wives. 385 00:22:30,490 --> 00:22:34,490 Another very important event in your life, Hattie. In that same year, 386 00:22:34,490 --> 00:22:36,730 on November the 10th, 1950, to be precise, 387 00:22:36,730 --> 00:22:40,370 you married well-known actor John Le Mesurier. 388 00:22:41,410 --> 00:22:43,770 I worked with his wife Hattie Jacques 389 00:22:43,770 --> 00:22:49,570 and at the time, I had no idea of the menage a trois which was going on in their home 390 00:22:49,570 --> 00:22:53,330 and the fact that poor John had to live in the attic upstairs 391 00:22:53,330 --> 00:22:57,770 whilst Hattie was frolicking downstairs with a much younger man. 392 00:22:57,770 --> 00:23:02,370 By the time Dad's Army started, John had married third wife Joan, 393 00:23:02,370 --> 00:23:04,650 but that relationship too was rocked 394 00:23:04,650 --> 00:23:08,130 when she had an affair with John's best friend Tony Hancock. 395 00:23:08,130 --> 00:23:10,850 He was strong in a way as well. 396 00:23:10,850 --> 00:23:12,970 He was, he was, you know, he was... 397 00:23:14,410 --> 00:23:17,770 ..very understanding of what was going on, 398 00:23:17,770 --> 00:23:20,610 but thank God he was working too at the time. 399 00:23:20,610 --> 00:23:23,570 He just had an air of tragedy about him 400 00:23:23,570 --> 00:23:27,170 and everybody would rush round looking after him, 401 00:23:27,170 --> 00:23:29,530 make-up girls powdering him down. 402 00:23:29,530 --> 00:23:33,570 He'd call everyone "dear lady". "Oh, thank you, dear lady. Thank you." 403 00:23:33,570 --> 00:23:37,250 He was a charming man, I mean, especially to the ladies. 404 00:23:37,250 --> 00:23:39,530 Like Casanova. 405 00:23:39,530 --> 00:23:41,890 He was just a gentleman. 406 00:23:41,890 --> 00:23:44,490 Kind of suave, sophisticated 407 00:23:44,490 --> 00:23:47,170 and just the way he walked. 408 00:23:47,170 --> 00:23:50,010 He walked so slowly and so elegantly. 409 00:23:50,010 --> 00:23:53,410 In the episode where he was dressed as a horse and... 410 00:23:54,490 --> 00:23:58,810 And yet he was the most elegant horse in the world. 411 00:23:58,810 --> 00:24:01,490 Wilson! Yes, sir? Office. Right. 412 00:24:03,090 --> 00:24:05,130 Do you want me to walk or gallop? 413 00:24:05,130 --> 00:24:07,730 Just come in the office, will you? 414 00:24:12,290 --> 00:24:15,130 Oh, I loved him. I wish I could have met him. 415 00:24:15,130 --> 00:24:19,130 I wish I could have married him. Anyway, that's another story. 416 00:24:19,130 --> 00:24:21,410 Coming up... What do you want? 417 00:24:21,410 --> 00:24:26,210 We look at the rest of the magnificent seven. They're just perfectly crafted. 418 00:24:26,210 --> 00:24:28,450 The relationships are so well drawn. 419 00:24:28,450 --> 00:24:30,170 Godfrey! 420 00:24:30,170 --> 00:24:35,010 And find out the surprising truth behind a Private Godfrey catchphrase. 421 00:24:35,010 --> 00:24:37,450 David and Jimmy were very good 422 00:24:37,450 --> 00:24:40,970 and that's why they kept writing all these parts, "Can I be excused?" 423 00:24:40,970 --> 00:24:44,930 So that he would have time to rest and go to the loo. 424 00:24:48,990 --> 00:24:52,350 Welcome back to We Love Dad's Army. 425 00:24:52,350 --> 00:24:54,350 Right turn! 426 00:24:54,350 --> 00:25:00,230 One outstanding element of this treasured sitcom was the tremendous ensemble cast. 427 00:25:00,230 --> 00:25:03,230 All of the characters, I think, are wonderfully done, 428 00:25:03,230 --> 00:25:06,350 even if some are slightly broader or more pantomimey than the others. 429 00:25:06,350 --> 00:25:09,470 Still there's something sweet and human about the way they all interact. 430 00:25:09,470 --> 00:25:11,510 And they became sort of national icons. 431 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:14,990 "The magnificent seven," Croft used to call them. And they were. 432 00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:20,750 This seldom seen archive from the cine camera of Frank Williams, 433 00:25:20,750 --> 00:25:23,310 who played Dad's Army vicar Timothy Farthing, 434 00:25:23,310 --> 00:25:26,550 captures the ensemble in unguarded moments. 435 00:25:28,030 --> 00:25:30,110 That's right, open the champagne. 436 00:25:30,110 --> 00:25:33,670 Of course, you're overacting. You're overacting, Bill. 437 00:25:33,670 --> 00:25:38,350 The whole cast had decades of experience behind them, except one. 438 00:25:38,350 --> 00:25:43,150 Ian, of course, he's doing the Times crossword, as he does. Yes, Ian. 439 00:25:43,150 --> 00:25:47,350 I liked Pike just because he was sort of a younger character, 440 00:25:47,350 --> 00:25:49,150 a little bit cheeky. 441 00:25:49,150 --> 00:25:51,350 You stupid boy! 442 00:25:52,430 --> 00:25:55,710 And when a 22-year-old Ian Lavender landed the part, 443 00:25:55,710 --> 00:25:59,110 his agent Ann had a small confession to make. 444 00:25:59,110 --> 00:26:02,270 She took me out for lunch and said, "I've got something to tell you." 445 00:26:02,270 --> 00:26:05,310 "What?" She said, "David Croft." "Yes?" "He's my husband." 446 00:26:05,310 --> 00:26:10,070 She said, "You got the interview because I'm married to him. 447 00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:12,990 "You got the job because he wants you." 448 00:26:12,990 --> 00:26:16,670 "Oh, yeah, fine." She said, "All right then, don't believe me. 449 00:26:16,670 --> 00:26:19,510 "But believe this. He can always write you out." 450 00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:21,590 IAN LAUGHS 451 00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:26,230 So, I can honestly say my agent was sleeping with the director. 452 00:26:26,230 --> 00:26:29,670 Ian was lovely. I got on very well with Ian. We were the youngest. 453 00:26:29,670 --> 00:26:35,430 I used to pick him up on the way to rehearsals at Hammersmith Broadway, a little second-hand Mini. 454 00:26:35,430 --> 00:26:37,870 You couldn't park there now, could you? 455 00:26:37,870 --> 00:26:42,110 I used to pull in, wait for him coming out of the Tube. Gosh! 456 00:26:42,110 --> 00:26:46,030 He was of the age, Pike, that I sort of vaguely fancied him, 457 00:26:46,030 --> 00:26:50,350 but he was such a sort of hilarious mummy's boy with so many ailments and things 458 00:26:50,350 --> 00:26:52,910 that you couldn't quite. It was really hilarious. 459 00:26:52,910 --> 00:26:54,350 Pike! 460 00:26:54,350 --> 00:26:57,750 You must not wear a coloured scarf with your uniform. 461 00:26:57,750 --> 00:27:00,590 How many times do I have to tell you? Take that off at once. 462 00:27:00,590 --> 00:27:02,910 My mum says I mustn't take it off. I get croup. 463 00:27:03,950 --> 00:27:05,470 Croup? 464 00:27:05,470 --> 00:27:07,510 Chickens get that, don't they? 465 00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:09,470 Yes, that's right. 466 00:27:09,470 --> 00:27:13,070 He's also there, I think, to entertain the idea 467 00:27:13,070 --> 00:27:15,910 that some people do think war is a great big adventure. 468 00:27:15,910 --> 00:27:20,710 He sees the war through the prism of films and baddies and good guys 469 00:27:20,710 --> 00:27:22,990 and for him, the guns are a prop. 470 00:27:24,190 --> 00:27:27,910 I think that's such a key element to the sweetness of Dad's Army. 471 00:27:27,910 --> 00:27:30,030 Ian was a very, very bright fellow, 472 00:27:30,030 --> 00:27:34,830 so he could turn his part to any sort of character acting that there was. 473 00:27:34,830 --> 00:27:39,390 The fantastic scene with him and John Le Mesurier, Wilson, 474 00:27:39,390 --> 00:27:43,310 when they were dressed as Germans, German officers, 475 00:27:43,310 --> 00:27:45,910 was absolutely genius. 476 00:27:48,430 --> 00:27:51,310 'The instructions from my director when I went... 477 00:27:51,310 --> 00:27:53,550 '"What do you want me to do with this, David?" 478 00:27:53,550 --> 00:27:56,350 'He just looked at me and said, "Do anything you want. 479 00:27:56,350 --> 00:27:58,790 '"You've got carte blanche."' 480 00:27:58,790 --> 00:28:00,390 Schweinhund! 481 00:28:06,790 --> 00:28:08,630 So... 482 00:28:08,630 --> 00:28:10,790 we are the masters now, eh? 483 00:28:13,230 --> 00:28:15,710 You have just five seconds to tell us your plans 484 00:28:15,710 --> 00:28:17,830 or else it is...kaput! 485 00:28:19,270 --> 00:28:21,790 I like being an officer, don't you, Uncle Arthur? 486 00:28:23,230 --> 00:28:27,430 Pike's "uncle" Arthur was in a semi-clandestine relationship 487 00:28:27,430 --> 00:28:29,630 with Pike's mum Mavis, 488 00:28:29,630 --> 00:28:33,230 leaving some to wonder if he was more than just an "uncle"? 489 00:28:34,270 --> 00:28:36,630 Uncle Arthur, his uncle Arthur. 490 00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:39,870 But is he Pike's uncle Arthur, is he Pike's father 491 00:28:39,870 --> 00:28:45,190 or what is the relationship between Uncle Arthur and Mrs Pike? 492 00:28:45,190 --> 00:28:47,470 I think you're a proud father. 493 00:28:47,470 --> 00:28:49,910 I don't quite follow you. Your son becoming an officer. 494 00:28:49,910 --> 00:28:52,270 'There is one episode where it's alluded to, 495 00:28:52,270 --> 00:28:55,350 'the fact that Wilson and Pike could be father and son.' 496 00:28:55,350 --> 00:28:57,750 He's not my son, you see. 497 00:28:57,750 --> 00:29:00,790 Because they were touching their face at exactly the same time. 498 00:29:00,790 --> 00:29:03,990 There were exactly the same mannerisms that were going on 499 00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:06,830 and it made you think, "Oh, I wonder?" 500 00:29:06,830 --> 00:29:09,230 What size does the young man take? What size? 501 00:29:09,230 --> 00:29:11,870 What size, hmm? What? Nines. 502 00:29:11,870 --> 00:29:13,950 Nine. Nine, right. 503 00:29:13,950 --> 00:29:16,750 'My character thought he was my uncle, 504 00:29:16,750 --> 00:29:19,070 'so that's all I needed to know. 505 00:29:19,070 --> 00:29:22,070 'We'd finished the last recording ever 506 00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:24,270 'and as we were leaving the studio, 507 00:29:24,270 --> 00:29:27,670 'I said to David, "David, I've got to ask you one thing. 508 00:29:27,670 --> 00:29:29,750 '"Is Sergeant Wilson my father?" 509 00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:32,230 'He just looked at me and said, "Of course he is."' 510 00:29:32,230 --> 00:29:34,270 IAN LAUGHS 511 00:29:34,270 --> 00:29:36,270 And that was it! 512 00:29:37,270 --> 00:29:41,350 Mr Laurie, please, Mr Laurie. What do you want? 513 00:29:41,350 --> 00:29:44,910 Private Frazer, the doubting Thomas of the troupe, 514 00:29:44,910 --> 00:29:49,670 was played by John Laurie, a highly respected actor of stage and screen. 515 00:29:49,670 --> 00:29:53,430 Doomed I am, doomed to be surrounded by idiots. 516 00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:55,470 Bugger off! 517 00:29:55,470 --> 00:29:59,670 Frazer's brilliant cos I remember seeing him in The 39 Steps. 518 00:29:59,670 --> 00:30:01,710 He's got that kind of, you know... 519 00:30:01,710 --> 00:30:05,350 He's got a great... He's a master of the grimace and the... 520 00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:07,430 Go in with the gentleman. 521 00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:09,630 He'll stay with us till tomorrow morning. 522 00:30:09,630 --> 00:30:11,630 Your daughter? 523 00:30:13,030 --> 00:30:15,430 My wife. 524 00:30:15,430 --> 00:30:17,670 Clearly, a proper actor, you know. 525 00:30:17,670 --> 00:30:20,510 Not like one of us comedy actors. A proper one. 526 00:30:20,510 --> 00:30:24,070 Before I was 30, I was playing Hamlet at Stratford-on-Avon. 527 00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:28,510 Also Othello, King Lear, Richard III. 528 00:30:28,510 --> 00:30:30,910 I played all the parts in Shakespeare 529 00:30:30,910 --> 00:30:33,710 that anybody could want to play. 530 00:30:33,710 --> 00:30:37,510 Croft and Perry obviously thought they needed people who could do super-serious 531 00:30:37,510 --> 00:30:41,510 and that that would be funny. That's what they do with Frazer. It's so funny, it's brilliant. 532 00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:45,710 What's amiss? Can we come in and talk to you for a minute? 533 00:30:45,710 --> 00:30:47,470 WIND WHISTLES 534 00:30:57,990 --> 00:31:00,470 I'm sorry about the candles. 535 00:31:00,470 --> 00:31:04,470 My blinds are a bit thin for the glare of the gas light. 536 00:31:04,470 --> 00:31:08,430 I like candles. They're...they're more romantic. 537 00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:15,870 I think John Laurie was very much like Frazer 538 00:31:15,870 --> 00:31:20,510 and I think he could have his moments where he could be maybe a little difficult. 539 00:31:20,510 --> 00:31:23,830 It was just a lousy part. I realised that, but I was out of work 540 00:31:23,830 --> 00:31:25,910 and actors will take anything. 541 00:31:25,910 --> 00:31:29,070 I'm here, look. LAUGHTER 542 00:31:29,070 --> 00:31:31,270 Jimmy would write that into the scene 543 00:31:31,270 --> 00:31:34,670 and have Frazer shouting the odds, 544 00:31:34,670 --> 00:31:39,910 and then going into these long monologues which, of course, used his natural theatrical talent. 545 00:31:39,910 --> 00:31:44,910 The great thing, as soon as Frazer speaks, everybody falls silent cos he can hold the room. 546 00:31:44,910 --> 00:31:48,070 He's good. He's a great performer like that. 547 00:31:48,070 --> 00:31:50,070 Captain Mainwaring... 548 00:31:51,150 --> 00:31:56,790 Did...did you ever hear the story of the old, empty barn? 549 00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:59,590 No. 550 00:32:00,670 --> 00:32:05,030 Would you like to hear the story of the old, empty barn? 551 00:32:06,910 --> 00:32:08,910 Well, yes. 552 00:32:08,910 --> 00:32:12,950 You're drawn in. What's he gonna say? Where's this story going to lead us? 553 00:32:12,950 --> 00:32:17,510 Is he going to frighten the life out of all of us? He commands us, he hypnotises us. 554 00:32:17,510 --> 00:32:21,990 The story of the old...empty barn. 555 00:32:23,870 --> 00:32:25,390 Well... 556 00:32:27,710 --> 00:32:29,710 ..there was nothing in it. 557 00:32:34,910 --> 00:32:37,670 "There was nothing in it." "There was nothing in it." 558 00:32:37,670 --> 00:32:43,950 Next to Frazer was Private Walker, a role Jimmy Perry originally wrote for himself, 559 00:32:43,950 --> 00:32:47,110 but that was eventually taken by James Beck. 560 00:32:47,110 --> 00:32:49,630 I always loved Walker. Walker was such a lovely character. 561 00:32:49,630 --> 00:32:52,710 I think I partly loved him because I was a big Roxy Music fan 562 00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:56,150 and Bryan Ferry went through a phase of having slick black hair and a moustache. 563 00:32:56,150 --> 00:32:59,790 Maybe Bryan Ferry was a big Dad's Army fan. Maybe that was his tribute to Walker. 564 00:32:59,790 --> 00:33:02,670 # I'm in with the "in" crowd 565 00:33:02,670 --> 00:33:05,430 # I go where the "in" crowd... # 566 00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:10,150 James Beck pulls off a remarkable performance, I think, with Walker 567 00:33:10,150 --> 00:33:13,070 because he's such an iconic wartime character, 568 00:33:13,070 --> 00:33:16,630 the way he dresses, the sort of zoot suits and the jaunty cap 569 00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:19,430 and the cigarette and the little spiv moustache, 570 00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:22,710 the ducking and diving, bribing people, helping the platoon out. 571 00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:27,990 So, he's taking a lot of cultural images that everybody still remembered in the '60s. 572 00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:30,070 Good evening, gents. Oh, and lady. 573 00:33:30,070 --> 00:33:32,470 Now then, I've got ten minutes before the parade begins, 574 00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:35,270 so I've got a few essential items here that are in short supply. 575 00:33:35,270 --> 00:33:38,630 Come over here. I've got some hair grips, some chocolate biscuits. 576 00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:41,390 Oh, and some elastic. Oh! What about that? How much? 577 00:33:41,390 --> 00:33:43,590 Five bob a yard. Five bob a yard. 578 00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:45,830 Not bad, is it? You can't get it anywhere. 579 00:33:45,830 --> 00:33:50,390 It's so long since it's been in the shops, some of you ladies must have been getting a bit desperate. 580 00:33:50,390 --> 00:33:54,310 You couldn't help but like Walker because he always came up trumps, 581 00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:57,710 he always came up with some great ideas on what to do. 582 00:33:57,710 --> 00:34:01,950 The interesting thing about Dad's Army is that Private Walker's in there saying, 583 00:34:01,950 --> 00:34:04,510 "Come on, let's be honest now. There was a black market." 584 00:34:04,510 --> 00:34:08,790 It's all part of actually kind of how, if you want, edgy, but honest... 585 00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:12,670 The programme's being honest. There's comedy in honesty. 586 00:34:12,670 --> 00:34:17,110 Mainwaring would be sort of very sneery as to what he was doing, 587 00:34:17,110 --> 00:34:20,750 but was not averse to taking the ill-gotten black market goods. 588 00:34:20,750 --> 00:34:23,550 I just wanted to have a word with Captain Mainwaring. All right. 589 00:34:23,550 --> 00:34:26,550 Psst, oi! Hmm? I've got your cheese. 590 00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:29,110 You've got what? I've got your cheese! Oh, yes. 591 00:34:30,190 --> 00:34:33,710 A pound of Cheddar. It isn't for me, of course. No, of course not. 592 00:34:33,710 --> 00:34:37,630 You know I don't approve of that sort of thing. In that case, I'll take it away. No, no, leaveit. 593 00:34:38,470 --> 00:34:42,110 Almost the polar opposite of street-wise Walker... 594 00:34:42,110 --> 00:34:45,230 Godfrey, come along, quick as you can! For heaven's sake! 595 00:34:45,230 --> 00:34:48,750 ..was the oldest member of the platoon, Private Godfrey, 596 00:34:48,750 --> 00:34:50,910 played by Arnold Ridley. 597 00:34:50,910 --> 00:34:53,110 Could you halt right there, please? 598 00:34:53,110 --> 00:34:55,910 Arnold Ridley, actor and playwright, 599 00:34:55,910 --> 00:34:58,230 tonight, this is your life! 600 00:35:00,030 --> 00:35:01,910 And smile, please! 601 00:35:02,990 --> 00:35:06,630 I kind of liked Godfrey because he was just sort of dithering. 602 00:35:06,630 --> 00:35:09,670 You just kind of think, "How are you in the army?" 603 00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:12,910 It's that kind of thing. "How are you going to protect us?" 604 00:35:12,910 --> 00:35:16,150 I really used to look forward to seeing Godfrey pipe up 605 00:35:16,150 --> 00:35:19,350 which was maybe only two or three times an episode, 606 00:35:19,350 --> 00:35:24,670 but he was such a reassuring presence and it was always so funny and always so sweet. 607 00:35:24,670 --> 00:35:29,230 Mainwaring was quite tough on him, really, cos he was such a gentle soul. "Godfrey, sort that out." 608 00:35:29,230 --> 00:35:33,510 You know, it was all very... I always sort of felt really sorry for him. 609 00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:35,950 Godfrey? Where's Godfrey? 610 00:35:35,950 --> 00:35:37,910 Godfrey! 611 00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:40,030 Did someone call? 612 00:35:41,470 --> 00:35:45,830 I'm terribly sorry, sir. I...I must have dozed off. 613 00:35:45,830 --> 00:35:47,910 Dozed off? 614 00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:51,270 We're guarding a dangerous bunch of cut-throats and you doze off? 615 00:35:51,270 --> 00:35:55,590 I want you to watch them like a hawk. You understand? Like a hawk! 616 00:35:55,590 --> 00:36:00,990 When casting, David Croft's one concern was whether 72-year-old Ridley, 617 00:36:00,990 --> 00:36:03,990 a distinguished veteran of both world wars, 618 00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:07,390 could manage the rigours of a regular filming schedule. 619 00:36:07,390 --> 00:36:12,630 He said, "My only worry about it is I don't know whether you'll be able to stand up to it. 620 00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:16,270 "It's not very serious." I said, "I think I'm as fit as anyone of 72." 621 00:36:16,270 --> 00:36:19,230 He said, "I'll let you know in two or three days' time." 622 00:36:19,230 --> 00:36:22,070 I didn't realise what really was at stake. 623 00:36:22,070 --> 00:36:25,190 I didn't realise I'd got eight years' work ahead of me. 624 00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:27,790 I thought it was about eight weeks at the most. 625 00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:33,830 He just loved being there, Arnold, being part of it. David and Jimmy were very good. 626 00:36:33,830 --> 00:36:36,310 They didn't give him anything that was too strenuous. 627 00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:40,630 And that's why they kept writing all these parts, "Can I be excused?" 628 00:36:40,630 --> 00:36:45,670 So that he would have time to rest and go to the loo. 629 00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:48,670 What is it, Godfrey? Do you think I might be excused? 630 00:36:48,670 --> 00:36:50,750 Certainly not. 631 00:36:50,750 --> 00:36:53,110 We were an awfully long time in that boat, sir. 632 00:36:53,110 --> 00:36:55,910 You should have taken advantage of it, shouldn't you? 633 00:36:57,310 --> 00:37:00,830 Arnold was very kind, very gentle, but strong, 634 00:37:00,830 --> 00:37:03,590 much, much stronger than the part he played. 635 00:37:05,150 --> 00:37:08,470 And he and Clive Dunn used to tell the filthiest jokes 636 00:37:08,470 --> 00:37:10,670 and I was only 22. 637 00:37:10,670 --> 00:37:14,710 I was shocked that this lovely, sweet old boy, you know, 638 00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:19,630 and out would come all these very naughty jokes. 639 00:37:19,630 --> 00:37:21,630 HUMS "DAD'S ARMY" THEME TUNE 640 00:37:22,710 --> 00:37:25,070 I stand right behind Arnold and he goes... 641 00:37:25,070 --> 00:37:26,910 HUMS THEME TUNE 642 00:37:28,270 --> 00:37:30,910 And I know exactly what he's thinking. 643 00:37:30,910 --> 00:37:34,030 It's ten past ten and the pubs are still open. 644 00:37:35,630 --> 00:37:38,750 After the break, the incomparable Clive Dunn. 645 00:37:38,750 --> 00:37:42,350 Clive Dunn really put his neck on the line for the show. 646 00:37:42,350 --> 00:37:45,830 And a story from the days before health and safety kicked in. 647 00:37:46,910 --> 00:37:49,550 There was this panic going on as they realised 648 00:37:49,550 --> 00:37:52,670 that actually Dad for some reason was still out, 649 00:37:52,670 --> 00:37:55,340 quite a way out in a boat on his own. 650 00:37:58,140 --> 00:38:01,780 Welcome back to We Love Dad's Army. 651 00:38:01,780 --> 00:38:04,060 BLOWS BUGLE LOUDLY 652 00:38:05,220 --> 00:38:08,700 What are you blowing that for? They don't work if you suck 'em. 653 00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:14,340 Clive Dunn as Jones, of course, the most iconic character, I think, in the show, 654 00:38:14,340 --> 00:38:17,940 certainly the one that everybody had an impression of at school. 655 00:38:17,940 --> 00:38:21,020 It seemed to be almost as if he was the oldest, yet he wasn't, 656 00:38:21,020 --> 00:38:22,980 because at the time, 657 00:38:22,980 --> 00:38:25,340 Clive Dunn the actor was under 50 years of age. 658 00:38:25,340 --> 00:38:30,140 # I've been sitting here all day, thinking... # 659 00:38:30,140 --> 00:38:34,580 In 1971, Clive Dunn topped the charts with Grandad. 660 00:38:34,580 --> 00:38:36,860 Aged just 51 at the time, 661 00:38:36,860 --> 00:38:40,500 he had already been charming viewers with his convincing portrayal 662 00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:43,020 of a slightly decrepit old man for three years. 663 00:38:43,020 --> 00:38:45,060 # Memories linger on 664 00:38:45,060 --> 00:38:50,740 # Thoughts of when I was a boy... # 665 00:38:50,740 --> 00:38:54,980 He seemed to have carved a career playing these old men. He'd done it before. 666 00:38:54,980 --> 00:38:57,900 But in real life, he was very suave, elegant, 667 00:38:57,900 --> 00:39:01,700 with a suede jacket and beautiful shirts and trousers. 668 00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:04,180 When I first joined, he had to have a lot of make-up 669 00:39:04,180 --> 00:39:06,260 to make him look like Jones. 670 00:39:06,260 --> 00:39:10,300 But as the time went by, Make-up used to laugh and they'd say, 671 00:39:10,300 --> 00:39:15,660 "We need less and less make-up with him because, you know, he's growing into the part." 672 00:39:15,660 --> 00:39:18,700 That again was brilliant casting because it meant, as an old man, 673 00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:21,860 he could do all those wonderful, wonderful stunts. 674 00:39:21,860 --> 00:39:25,740 He could actually be the clown of the group. 675 00:39:25,740 --> 00:39:28,780 And, boy, Croft and Perry used that to great effect! 676 00:39:28,780 --> 00:39:31,100 Take it easy, Jones. Yeah, all right, sir. 677 00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:33,300 I'm nearly... I'm nearly there, sir. 678 00:39:33,300 --> 00:39:35,780 I'm nearly over. I'm nearly there, sir. 679 00:39:35,780 --> 00:39:38,740 Yes, all right, sir. I'm nearly there, sir. 680 00:39:43,060 --> 00:39:46,180 Clive Dunn really put his neck on the line for the show. 681 00:39:46,180 --> 00:39:48,420 You'd wonder whether they'd sit down and go, 682 00:39:48,420 --> 00:39:51,300 "What can we get Clive to do this week? 683 00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:55,140 "What absurd thing can we persuade him to do and he'll say yes, won't he?" 684 00:39:55,140 --> 00:40:00,140 "I'll be the one who wants to be shot, Mr Mainwaring." He'll do all of that. He'll do anything. 685 00:40:00,140 --> 00:40:03,460 There was no situation Jonesy couldn't turn into a moment 686 00:40:03,460 --> 00:40:06,780 of laugh-out-loud, slapstick comedy. 687 00:40:06,780 --> 00:40:08,900 Mr Mainwaring! Mr Mainwaring! 688 00:40:08,900 --> 00:40:13,220 It's where the comedy is at its broadest, really, and that's perhaps why, as a kid, I loved it. 689 00:40:13,220 --> 00:40:17,780 That's once again a masterstroke, the reason why it was so popular with all ages. 690 00:40:17,780 --> 00:40:21,700 Initially, though, Dunn wasn't sure about taking the role 691 00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:24,660 and it almost went to a young David Jason. 692 00:40:24,660 --> 00:40:27,740 Did you say yes to that part immediately? 693 00:40:27,740 --> 00:40:30,340 Oh, no, I didn't say yes. Yeah. 694 00:40:30,340 --> 00:40:33,900 To be honest, I'd just been in a show that I wasn't very good in 695 00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:37,860 and I thought, "I don't wanna go in another show I'm not very good in." 696 00:40:37,860 --> 00:40:41,660 Jimmy Perry based Jones on a character from his days in the Home Guard 697 00:40:41,660 --> 00:40:45,540 and gave him the privileged position of the town's butcher. 698 00:40:45,540 --> 00:40:51,300 The thing I like about the relationship between Jones and Mainwaring is, um, you know, 699 00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:55,260 he's completely at his beck and call, a military man through and through, 700 00:40:55,260 --> 00:40:57,500 but then every now and then, 701 00:40:57,500 --> 00:41:02,820 there's a little threat of Mainwaring not getting his ration of meat that week 702 00:41:02,820 --> 00:41:05,660 when Corporal Jones isn't getting what he wanted. 703 00:41:05,660 --> 00:41:08,260 Oh, sir. Yes? There's, um... 704 00:41:08,260 --> 00:41:11,500 There's a couple of pounds of steak there, sir. 705 00:41:11,500 --> 00:41:13,540 Compliments of the house. 706 00:41:13,540 --> 00:41:15,220 Oh! Yes, sir. 707 00:41:15,220 --> 00:41:17,980 By the way, sir, what about my stripe? Your stripe? 708 00:41:20,060 --> 00:41:23,380 I was a Lance-Corporal for 14 years. Can I keep it? 709 00:41:23,380 --> 00:41:26,740 No, Jones, I'm afraid you can't. In that case, I'll keep the steak. 710 00:41:28,860 --> 00:41:31,420 I loved that about him. I loved that steely quality 711 00:41:31,420 --> 00:41:37,420 about him being prepared to use his valued position as butcher in the village to get what he wants. 712 00:41:37,420 --> 00:41:43,100 Jones's butcher's van became a vital tool for the platoon throughout the series. 713 00:41:45,260 --> 00:41:48,620 # We're on a road to nowhere... # 714 00:41:48,620 --> 00:41:50,820 Here is my van. Here we are. 715 00:41:50,820 --> 00:41:53,300 I'm afraid we don't have a Jonesy in it. 716 00:41:53,300 --> 00:41:57,620 This rare footage sees the cast taking the van for a spin 717 00:41:57,620 --> 00:42:00,660 on the London to Brighton Veteran Car Rally. 718 00:42:00,660 --> 00:42:03,860 Well, I think Clive was quite nervous about driving it. 719 00:42:03,860 --> 00:42:07,140 It wasn't the easiest vehicle in the world, being so old, 720 00:42:07,140 --> 00:42:09,780 with a very strange steering wheel, 721 00:42:09,780 --> 00:42:12,260 so it took him a while, but he got used to it. 722 00:42:12,260 --> 00:42:15,660 You must be very proud of Corporal Jones. What a superb job at the wheel! 723 00:42:15,660 --> 00:42:19,460 A marvellous job, a marvellous job indeed. I think it was excellent. 724 00:42:19,460 --> 00:42:22,300 And how did she behave? Oh, she behaved very well, sir. 725 00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:25,500 Rather a lot of steam came out. Yeah, I noticed. 726 00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:29,980 We formed our own smokescreen, so that nobody could see us as we came through, sir. 727 00:42:29,980 --> 00:42:34,060 But the legendary van hadn't always been in such great shape. 728 00:42:34,060 --> 00:42:39,820 The prop buyer and myself looked around for quite some time until we found a garage 729 00:42:39,820 --> 00:42:42,580 that had something suitable. 730 00:42:42,580 --> 00:42:45,620 It was in a terrible state. 731 00:42:45,620 --> 00:42:48,860 We had it renovated and made roadworthy, 732 00:42:48,860 --> 00:42:52,740 then I designed the graphics for the side of the vehicle 733 00:42:52,740 --> 00:42:57,940 in a way that was... the same sort of style that you expected of Jonesy himself. 734 00:42:59,980 --> 00:43:04,580 The van was often at the heart of Dad's Army's signature set-piece capers 735 00:43:04,580 --> 00:43:07,740 that Jimmy Perry had encouraged from the very start. 736 00:43:08,820 --> 00:43:11,620 He said it was adventure comedy 737 00:43:11,620 --> 00:43:15,180 and he said that was the only way they could really get the laughs 738 00:43:15,180 --> 00:43:18,740 because, I mean, look at it, they were ridiculous ideas, weren't they? 739 00:43:18,740 --> 00:43:20,740 Jump to it! Hup! 740 00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:25,020 Croft and Perry were unrestrained 741 00:43:25,020 --> 00:43:31,140 by any sense of trying to either keep it characterful, real or broad comedy. 742 00:43:31,140 --> 00:43:37,100 They had all of these things at their disposal and they weren't afraid to use any of them. 743 00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:42,100 And Mainwaring being dragged around the countryside strapped to a barrage balloon, it's just... 744 00:43:42,100 --> 00:43:44,620 They really give their value for money. 745 00:43:46,020 --> 00:43:47,500 Ruddy hooligans! 746 00:43:47,500 --> 00:43:50,220 What do you think you're playing at? Cowboys and Indians? 747 00:43:50,220 --> 00:43:54,820 I mean, yes, it was totally and completely adventure comedy. 748 00:43:54,820 --> 00:43:57,980 Well, Clive, Bill and I 749 00:43:57,980 --> 00:44:02,380 were often the subjects of this adventure comedy 750 00:44:02,380 --> 00:44:06,900 in that if somebody had to fall into a river or whatever, it would be one of us three 751 00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:11,540 to the extent that Wardrobe just automatically packed wetsuits for us, 752 00:44:11,540 --> 00:44:13,860 but it was always us because we were young. 753 00:44:13,860 --> 00:44:16,460 But perhaps the show's most complex water scene 754 00:44:16,460 --> 00:44:19,220 was bravely shot in studio 755 00:44:19,220 --> 00:44:23,900 and required some breathtaking ingenuity from the Dad's Army crew. 756 00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:28,260 What am I gonna do when the water reaches my head? Oh, don't worry about that. 757 00:44:28,260 --> 00:44:31,300 We'll have thought of something by then. 758 00:44:31,300 --> 00:44:34,780 We had two sequences where the water was low down 759 00:44:34,780 --> 00:44:37,940 and then later on, it was higher up 760 00:44:37,940 --> 00:44:40,900 and we did that by lowering the set into the water 761 00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:44,580 which was done behind closed screens in front of the audience. 762 00:44:44,580 --> 00:44:49,100 Uncle Arthur... Yes? If you don't let me up on that bunk, I'll tell Mum. 763 00:44:50,180 --> 00:44:53,220 The set itself got applause from the audience. 764 00:44:53,220 --> 00:44:57,860 I don't think that's ever happened to me before or since, actually. 765 00:44:57,860 --> 00:45:00,420 Give us a hand. Give us a pull. It's different now, isn't it? 766 00:45:00,420 --> 00:45:02,940 When I wanted to get in your bath, you didn't want to know. 767 00:45:02,940 --> 00:45:05,860 Now you want help! Hurry up! Get over there! 768 00:45:05,860 --> 00:45:09,620 'It also meant that Bill Pertwee and I, instead of standing in the water, 769 00:45:09,620 --> 00:45:12,460 'now had to kneel so that the water was at our shoulders. 770 00:45:12,460 --> 00:45:15,820 'That's when you suddenly realise your bodies are quite buoyant 771 00:45:15,820 --> 00:45:21,540 'and somebody had to be in there holding Pertwee down in his water tank, 772 00:45:21,540 --> 00:45:24,260 'so he didn't fall over.' 773 00:45:24,260 --> 00:45:26,060 Aaagh! 774 00:45:28,340 --> 00:45:32,340 I think one of the reasons people love Dad's Army is you get the feeling 775 00:45:32,340 --> 00:45:37,180 that there's nothing Croft and Perry wouldn't do to one of their characters if it got them a laugh. 776 00:45:37,180 --> 00:45:39,260 Oh, it's someone's birthday. 777 00:45:39,260 --> 00:45:41,540 As Frank Williams's home movie shows, 778 00:45:41,540 --> 00:45:45,740 the popular Bill Pertwee was nothing like his warden character. 779 00:45:45,740 --> 00:45:47,860 Well, happy birthday, young man. 780 00:45:48,900 --> 00:45:53,580 But he was often the one asked to be the fall guy in the name of comedy. 781 00:45:53,580 --> 00:45:56,620 David and Jimmy said, "The great thing about Bill, 782 00:45:56,620 --> 00:45:59,860 "we could throw anything at him, he didn't mind a bit. 783 00:45:59,860 --> 00:46:03,660 "We'd throw barrels of horrible old manure all over him or water 784 00:46:03,660 --> 00:46:05,860 "and chuck him in this lake here." 785 00:46:05,860 --> 00:46:09,260 I remember Dad was forever in the water. 786 00:46:09,260 --> 00:46:11,460 Clear off! Aaagh! 787 00:46:12,980 --> 00:46:15,180 Aaagh! 788 00:46:15,180 --> 00:46:17,300 Oh, here we go again! 789 00:46:17,300 --> 00:46:22,580 He used to come back after doing the rehearsals and say, "Isn't it all marvellous? Aren't we alllucky?" 790 00:46:22,580 --> 00:46:26,580 It was fine with him. He didn't mind. There was no health and safety then. 791 00:46:26,580 --> 00:46:30,380 That lack of health and safety wasn't usually an issue 792 00:46:30,380 --> 00:46:35,620 until one night when life began imitating art for the unfortunate Pertwee. 793 00:46:35,620 --> 00:46:41,500 They'd gone out to do a scene in the sea off the pier and it was a night shoot, pretty late. 794 00:46:41,500 --> 00:46:44,300 And Dad is in a boat on his own. 795 00:46:44,300 --> 00:46:47,900 I wonder what it is? It ain't half making a lot of splashing. 796 00:46:47,900 --> 00:46:50,540 Hey! Put that light out! 797 00:46:50,540 --> 00:46:56,180 And the two guys who were filming thought Dad had been taken back in another boat, 798 00:46:56,180 --> 00:46:58,700 so everyone came back to the Thetford hotel 799 00:46:58,700 --> 00:47:01,980 and there was this sort of slight panic going on 800 00:47:01,980 --> 00:47:05,700 as they realised that actually Dad for some reason was still out, 801 00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:08,900 quite a way out in a boat on his own, paddling back to the pier, 802 00:47:08,900 --> 00:47:11,260 but that was a bit hairy, he told me. 803 00:47:11,260 --> 00:47:13,940 Um...and we were a little bit worried. 804 00:47:13,940 --> 00:47:16,500 I could sense the atmosphere, 805 00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:19,340 but it all ended OK. 806 00:47:19,340 --> 00:47:24,180 Captain Mainwaring and the platoon would no doubt have had little sympathy 807 00:47:24,180 --> 00:47:27,820 for Hodges being cast adrift in the North Sea, 808 00:47:27,820 --> 00:47:30,100 but he was a vital part of the show. 809 00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:35,980 They obviously needed in the series, they needed an antagonist because we do never see the Germans, 810 00:47:35,980 --> 00:47:40,220 so as the ARP Warden, he's there for them to bump up against. 811 00:47:40,220 --> 00:47:43,940 He was the perfect foil for Mainwaring in Dad's Army. 812 00:47:45,020 --> 00:47:48,020 And Hodges could call on some heavenly back-up. 813 00:47:48,020 --> 00:47:52,100 It's supposed to be Hitler, but it's actually the ARP Warden 814 00:47:52,100 --> 00:47:55,780 or the vicar or the verger he's really fighting against most of the time. 815 00:47:55,780 --> 00:48:00,020 They represent the dark side, but they're just jobsworths, aren't they? 816 00:48:00,020 --> 00:48:03,180 That's it. They're just annoying, idiotic jobsworths. 817 00:48:03,180 --> 00:48:07,460 And we love to see these jobsworths get their comeuppance. 818 00:48:07,460 --> 00:48:11,900 There were some iconic moments or seconds, if you like, 819 00:48:11,900 --> 00:48:14,860 and there's the one with the grenades going off. 820 00:48:14,860 --> 00:48:18,900 And it's just perfectly timed and you see Walker with his cigarette 821 00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:22,780 throw it into the box of dynamite and there's this lovely pause. 822 00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:26,900 Then Dad just comes out and reveals himself 823 00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:28,900 with this angst look on his face. 824 00:48:31,340 --> 00:48:33,700 I'll get you, Mainwaring! 825 00:48:35,020 --> 00:48:39,380 All sorts going on. As Clive would probably say, "Bill overacting again." 826 00:48:39,380 --> 00:48:43,060 Still to come, the mysterious Mrs Mainwaring. 827 00:48:43,060 --> 00:48:45,780 Fear, terror, anger. 828 00:48:45,780 --> 00:48:47,740 Just so many emotions. 829 00:48:47,740 --> 00:48:52,500 And we get a rare peek behind the scenes of Dad's Army on location. 830 00:48:53,740 --> 00:48:56,540 They'd be up all night. They wouldn't get to bed. 831 00:48:56,540 --> 00:48:59,370 They'd still be word-perfect the next day. God knows how! 832 00:49:02,050 --> 00:49:05,490 Welcome back to We Love Dad's Army. 833 00:49:05,490 --> 00:49:07,570 If you ask someone about Dad's Army, 834 00:49:07,570 --> 00:49:10,610 I don't think they're ever gonna say one of the female characters 835 00:49:10,610 --> 00:49:13,210 because they were essentially non-existent. 836 00:49:13,210 --> 00:49:15,290 # This is a man's world... # 837 00:49:15,290 --> 00:49:18,610 The cast of Dad's Army was overwhelmingly male. 838 00:49:19,930 --> 00:49:22,770 Nevertheless, women weren't completely absent. 839 00:49:22,770 --> 00:49:26,530 Wendy Richard had a recurring role as Walker's girlfriend. 840 00:49:26,530 --> 00:49:32,370 Jonesy constantly lusted after Pamela Cundell's wonderfully brassy Mrs Fox, 841 00:49:32,370 --> 00:49:36,610 while Barbara Windsor once appeared as a theatrical crack shot 842 00:49:36,610 --> 00:49:40,610 in a typically risque role that chimed with her Carry On persona. 843 00:49:40,610 --> 00:49:42,610 How's that? A transformation! 844 00:49:44,210 --> 00:49:46,530 Squad...'shun! 845 00:49:47,570 --> 00:49:49,530 Stick your chest out. 846 00:49:49,530 --> 00:49:50,810 God! 847 00:49:52,890 --> 00:49:56,370 Producer and writer David Croft certainly saw it 848 00:49:56,370 --> 00:49:59,450 as a very male comedy from the start. 849 00:49:59,450 --> 00:50:04,370 When I arrived for the interview, he told me straight out he didn't want me. He didn't want a girl in it. 850 00:50:04,370 --> 00:50:07,810 He wanted just men. He didn't want any women at all. 851 00:50:07,810 --> 00:50:13,250 Michael Mills, who was then Head of Comedy, had insisted you can't have a comedy without a blonde. 852 00:50:13,250 --> 00:50:17,250 One regular female character, however, was Pike's mum Mavis, 853 00:50:17,250 --> 00:50:19,330 played by Janet Davies. 854 00:50:19,330 --> 00:50:23,290 She's sort of blonde. She's managing to dye her hair through the war. 855 00:50:23,290 --> 00:50:25,850 She's sort of the epitome of womanhood 856 00:50:25,850 --> 00:50:27,850 outside of this bunch of men. 857 00:50:27,850 --> 00:50:31,090 She's clearly having an affair with Sergeant Wilson. 858 00:50:31,090 --> 00:50:34,810 He is on a knife edge all the time. He can't be obvious 859 00:50:34,810 --> 00:50:37,610 about their relationship, but he wants to keep it, 860 00:50:37,610 --> 00:50:39,850 so he can't be that rude to her, you know? 861 00:50:39,850 --> 00:50:43,090 I really think you're being rather silly. Oh, I'm silly, am I? 862 00:50:43,090 --> 00:50:45,170 You're very silly if you think I'm only here 863 00:50:45,170 --> 00:50:48,450 to administer to all your little comforts every evening. Now, Mavis, please. 864 00:50:48,450 --> 00:50:51,650 You think you've only got to knock on my door and I shall come running. 865 00:50:51,650 --> 00:50:53,650 I've never asked you to run, Mavis. 866 00:50:55,210 --> 00:50:57,970 'She plainly runs the relationship.' 867 00:50:57,970 --> 00:51:02,170 It's a wonderful thing to watch and comically rich. 868 00:51:02,170 --> 00:51:04,410 At least we saw Mavis. 869 00:51:04,410 --> 00:51:09,930 Captain Mainwaring's domineering wife Elizabeth remained defiantly off screen. 870 00:51:09,930 --> 00:51:12,450 You always knew you were never gonna see her, 871 00:51:12,450 --> 00:51:14,690 but it didn't matter cos you felt you knew her 872 00:51:14,690 --> 00:51:17,090 and you knew that all of the platoon knew her 873 00:51:17,090 --> 00:51:21,090 and they all knew how terrified he was of her. 874 00:51:21,090 --> 00:51:26,290 I think many other comedies have lifted the idea that you never see a character, 875 00:51:26,290 --> 00:51:29,650 but you only ever hear them talked about and the reaction to them. 876 00:51:29,650 --> 00:51:31,690 It's your wife, sir. What? Your wife. 877 00:51:31,690 --> 00:51:35,610 Tell her I'm not here. I'm sorry, sir, but she heard you shouting. 878 00:51:35,610 --> 00:51:38,050 WILSON CHUCKLES Really? Yes. 879 00:51:41,930 --> 00:51:44,010 Hello, Elizabeth. 880 00:51:44,010 --> 00:51:47,450 Arthur Lowe's face when Elizabeth phones him to tell him off 881 00:51:47,450 --> 00:51:51,850 is fear, terror, anger, just so many emotions. 882 00:51:51,850 --> 00:51:54,610 I might have a little surprise for you tonight. 883 00:51:56,850 --> 00:51:58,890 No, no, I've bought... 884 00:51:58,890 --> 00:52:02,650 One episode did have more of a gender balance, however. 885 00:52:02,650 --> 00:52:08,250 Mum's Army took its inspiration from women being recruited into the Home Guard. 886 00:52:11,010 --> 00:52:16,690 The Mum's Army sticks in my mind because of the drill that you just get it wrong. 887 00:52:16,690 --> 00:52:19,050 I remember my sergeant shouting in my ear, 888 00:52:19,050 --> 00:52:21,450 "Private Holmes, get off the parade ground now!" 889 00:52:21,450 --> 00:52:23,650 I'm going, "Oh, I'm in trouble!" 890 00:52:23,650 --> 00:52:25,290 Left turn! 891 00:52:26,370 --> 00:52:29,970 There seems to be some confusion as to which is which. 892 00:52:29,970 --> 00:52:31,970 Yes, I know, I know. 893 00:52:31,970 --> 00:52:34,610 I can just imagine if all those women were on a parade ground. 894 00:52:34,610 --> 00:52:37,450 They've all got their lipstick on and their hair over 895 00:52:37,450 --> 00:52:40,970 and, you know, kind of all dressed normally, like... Nah. 896 00:52:42,050 --> 00:52:45,370 Croft and Perry used this tale of female recruitment 897 00:52:45,370 --> 00:52:47,610 to show a different side to Mainwaring 898 00:52:47,610 --> 00:52:50,210 as they delivered a heartbreaking love story. 899 00:52:51,250 --> 00:52:53,690 This is the beauty of the writing 900 00:52:53,690 --> 00:52:57,410 whereby Mainwaring falls in love 901 00:52:57,410 --> 00:53:01,690 and he's putty in the hands of this lady who he meets called Fiona, 902 00:53:01,690 --> 00:53:04,010 played by the actress Carmen Silvera, 903 00:53:04,010 --> 00:53:07,130 and he falls for her hook, line and sinker. 904 00:53:07,130 --> 00:53:11,050 I was very lucky to get Carmen Silvera to play Mrs Gray. 905 00:53:11,050 --> 00:53:14,570 Of course, ultimately, I used her in 'Allo 'Allo! 906 00:53:14,570 --> 00:53:16,650 She's a lovely actress 907 00:53:16,650 --> 00:53:21,050 and she was so retiring and so delicate, the way she played it. 908 00:53:21,050 --> 00:53:23,130 'It was a beautiful performance.' 909 00:53:23,130 --> 00:53:26,250 Captain Mainwaring, may I ask you something awfully personal? 910 00:53:26,250 --> 00:53:28,210 Yes. 911 00:53:28,210 --> 00:53:30,370 Do you always wear glasses? 912 00:53:31,410 --> 00:53:33,330 Yes. Yes, I always have. 913 00:53:33,330 --> 00:53:36,170 Would you take them off for a moment? 914 00:53:37,570 --> 00:53:39,570 If you wish. 915 00:53:40,610 --> 00:53:43,090 Oh, that's so much better. 916 00:53:43,090 --> 00:53:45,170 Do you know, I think spectacles... 917 00:53:45,170 --> 00:53:48,930 Well, they take away the warmth in a person's eyes, 918 00:53:48,930 --> 00:53:52,050 just as a fireguard takes away so much of the heat. 919 00:53:54,490 --> 00:53:59,250 I think it's the first time you see his vulnerability and you see him fall in love. 920 00:54:00,290 --> 00:54:02,530 And so did she. 921 00:54:02,530 --> 00:54:05,330 But you knew it was doomed. 922 00:54:06,410 --> 00:54:11,530 While the family life of the platoon may have been largely absent from the screen, 923 00:54:11,530 --> 00:54:14,530 behind the cameras it was different, 924 00:54:14,530 --> 00:54:18,970 particularly when it came to the annual trips to film on location in Norfolk. 925 00:54:18,970 --> 00:54:21,570 Well, we all saw it as a family holiday. 926 00:54:21,570 --> 00:54:25,850 We'd all arrive at Television Centre and get on the buses, 927 00:54:25,850 --> 00:54:30,890 including Arthur, and Arthur always had to sit at the front because he was head of the team. 928 00:54:30,890 --> 00:54:33,210 We were like a family when we went away filming. 929 00:54:33,210 --> 00:54:35,770 No responsibility of telephones ringing at home, 930 00:54:35,770 --> 00:54:37,970 letters to answer, anything like that. 931 00:54:37,970 --> 00:54:40,890 We became a family up there for over nine years, so it was great. 932 00:54:40,890 --> 00:54:45,570 I remember going up to Thetford several times in the school holidays. 933 00:54:45,570 --> 00:54:47,770 They used to call it Croft's Summers 934 00:54:47,770 --> 00:54:51,610 because it was just glorious sunshine the whole time. 935 00:54:51,610 --> 00:54:55,290 This intimate, behind-the-scenes cine footage 936 00:54:55,290 --> 00:54:58,730 shows how the family of the cast were allowed to mingle 937 00:54:58,730 --> 00:55:02,490 in the relaxed atmosphere encouraged by Croft and Perry. 938 00:55:02,490 --> 00:55:06,130 David Croft was tremendous to work with. 939 00:55:06,130 --> 00:55:10,090 "One take" David. He loved to do just one take 940 00:55:10,090 --> 00:55:12,370 if he possibly could and go straight on. 941 00:55:12,370 --> 00:55:18,010 Then Sound would come through and they'd say, "David, we've got the mic in shot. We need to redo it." 942 00:55:18,010 --> 00:55:21,650 And he said, "We're not redoing it because it was very funny. 943 00:55:21,650 --> 00:55:24,730 "If people at home see the mic, they've missed the joke." 944 00:55:24,730 --> 00:55:27,570 Dad was very impressed with the way they were. 945 00:55:27,570 --> 00:55:32,570 They weren't the type of creators that shouted and screamed at everyone. 946 00:55:32,570 --> 00:55:38,330 That niceness, if you like, or pleasantness seemed to spread throughout the whole thing. 947 00:55:38,330 --> 00:55:40,290 They all got on so well. 948 00:55:40,290 --> 00:55:43,130 When they were shooting on location in Thetford, 949 00:55:43,130 --> 00:55:46,170 they were like, you know, best of pals. 950 00:55:48,290 --> 00:55:51,610 To me as a young actor that was just starting out, 951 00:55:51,610 --> 00:55:53,690 I got these seven other people, 952 00:55:53,690 --> 00:55:56,850 who came from seven totally different backgrounds 953 00:55:56,850 --> 00:56:00,210 socially and professionally, to watch and to learn from. 954 00:56:00,210 --> 00:56:05,250 It was like going back to summer school every year. It was wonderful. And I got paid. 955 00:56:05,250 --> 00:56:09,770 I think one of the joys of Dad's Army was you felt that they all loved each other. 956 00:56:09,770 --> 00:56:14,090 And you felt that, this incredible sense of camaraderie, 957 00:56:14,090 --> 00:56:17,850 both in the situation their characters were in of fighting the war, 958 00:56:17,850 --> 00:56:19,850 but also as actors. 959 00:56:19,850 --> 00:56:24,770 It was good fun. The one episode that I particularly liked, 960 00:56:24,770 --> 00:56:28,330 it was where the harvester was used. 961 00:56:28,330 --> 00:56:30,610 I had a harmonium at home 962 00:56:30,610 --> 00:56:34,010 and actually it was that harmonium that I brought 963 00:56:34,010 --> 00:56:36,050 for the lady to play in the field. 964 00:56:36,050 --> 00:56:38,050 "Raise the song of harvest home 965 00:56:38,050 --> 00:56:40,090 "All is safely gathered in 966 00:56:40,090 --> 00:56:42,490 "'Ere the winter storms begin." 967 00:56:42,490 --> 00:56:46,850 At this point, the platoon is sloshed on potato wine, 968 00:56:46,850 --> 00:56:50,450 a state authentically captured by the entire cast 969 00:56:50,450 --> 00:56:53,850 as they begin drunkenly bickering amongst themselves. 970 00:56:53,850 --> 00:56:56,690 You staggered against me. You can't hold your liquor. 971 00:56:56,690 --> 00:57:00,930 Don't you talk to me like that, you...you drunken old snob! 972 00:57:03,570 --> 00:57:07,090 All right, all right, Frazer, I can look after myself. 973 00:57:12,130 --> 00:57:16,010 The day's work was serious. It was long, it was arduous. 974 00:57:16,010 --> 00:57:18,530 But when we got back and relaxed, 975 00:57:18,530 --> 00:57:24,810 those two or three hours over supper, dinner and a drink in the bar were great fun. 976 00:57:24,810 --> 00:57:29,490 If there was a time when we bonded, then that's when we did truly bond. 977 00:57:30,570 --> 00:57:35,530 John Le Mesurier and Jimmy Beck, you know, they'd be up all night. 978 00:57:35,530 --> 00:57:38,970 They wouldn't get to bed. They'd be drinking companions. 979 00:57:38,970 --> 00:57:43,130 And they'd still be word-perfect the next day. God knows how! 980 00:57:44,210 --> 00:57:48,450 In the final part of the show, we look at the longevity of Dad's Army. 981 00:57:48,450 --> 00:57:52,370 One of those rare things, the time was right, the cast was right, 982 00:57:52,370 --> 00:57:54,530 the script was right and the idea was right. 983 00:57:55,610 --> 00:57:59,050 And discover the origin of Mainwaring's most uttered phrase. 984 00:58:00,170 --> 00:58:03,330 Dad never said "you stupid boy" to me, 985 00:58:03,330 --> 00:58:08,130 but I sort of heard the line in my own head, "You stupid boy," 986 00:58:08,130 --> 00:58:12,210 and I think that... HE LAUGHS ..it was pretty close. 987 00:58:15,090 --> 00:58:17,170 Welcome back 988 00:58:17,170 --> 00:58:20,730 as We Love Dad's Army makes its final push. 989 00:58:21,890 --> 00:58:26,290 It's time to celebrate an element of the series that we all adore. 990 00:58:26,290 --> 00:58:30,050 Ah, a pelican crossing. The light's green. Carry on then. 991 00:58:30,050 --> 00:58:35,970 The catchphrases. Don't panic, don't panic! Captain Mainwaring, the light's flashing. What do we do? 992 00:58:35,970 --> 00:58:38,370 Don't panic, don't panic! They don't like it up 'em. 993 00:58:38,370 --> 00:58:41,170 Excuse me. Stupid boy! 994 00:58:41,170 --> 00:58:43,170 You stupid boy! 995 00:58:43,170 --> 00:58:45,650 We're doomed. He's doomed! 996 00:58:45,650 --> 00:58:50,130 All you really want Frazer to do is say, "We're all doomed," and everyone's happy. 997 00:58:50,130 --> 00:58:53,490 All of these catchphrases have just travelled for decades 998 00:58:53,490 --> 00:58:57,530 and that is the sign of a piece of universal, timeless art, isn't it? 999 00:58:57,530 --> 00:59:00,090 "Don't panic," in particular, I think, 1000 00:59:00,090 --> 00:59:03,250 it's just burned into us, into our sort of comic retina. 1001 00:59:03,250 --> 00:59:07,250 The Germans are coming! Don't panic! The Germans are coming! 1002 00:59:07,250 --> 00:59:09,290 Don't panic! Don't panic! 1003 00:59:09,290 --> 00:59:11,970 There's a mine under the pier! 1004 00:59:11,970 --> 00:59:16,010 It's part of British society, it's part of the fabric of life, 1005 00:59:16,010 --> 00:59:19,370 as is that TV series and always will be. 1006 00:59:22,170 --> 00:59:26,890 The catchphrase "they don't like it up 'em" was when I was in the army. 1007 00:59:26,890 --> 00:59:29,250 The proper army. It was the bayonet drill. 1008 00:59:29,250 --> 00:59:33,970 "They don't like it up 'em, you know. They do not like it up them." Who does? 1009 00:59:33,970 --> 00:59:37,650 That was probably the biggest catchphrase to come out of the show. 1010 00:59:37,650 --> 00:59:40,130 I mean, everyone loved that. 1011 00:59:40,130 --> 00:59:43,010 And it kind of works in most situations, bizarrely. 1012 00:59:43,010 --> 00:59:47,770 That was, I think, a tribute not only to the writing, but also to Clive Dunn's performance. 1013 00:59:47,770 --> 00:59:50,010 There's no substitute for the cold steel. 1014 00:59:50,010 --> 00:59:53,490 They do not like it up 'em. They don't like it up 'em! 1015 00:59:53,490 --> 00:59:56,970 You actually believe that he did at some point stick one up 'em 1016 00:59:56,970 --> 00:59:59,890 because he says it with such joy and glee. 1017 00:59:59,890 --> 01:00:05,730 When three episodes lost from the BBC archives were re-made in 2019, 1018 01:00:05,730 --> 01:00:10,090 the huge popularity of the catchphrases was obvious. 1019 01:00:10,090 --> 01:00:13,090 It was a problem for us in the lost episodes 1020 01:00:13,090 --> 01:00:17,370 because we got to a moment where Kevin Eldon had to say, 1021 01:00:17,370 --> 01:00:21,570 "I'll give 'em a bit of the cold steel and they don't like it up 'em, they don't like it up 'em." 1022 01:00:21,570 --> 01:00:25,130 And the audience went crazy. 1023 01:00:25,130 --> 01:00:28,250 I'm the right man for the job, sir. I'm a man with fine potential. 1024 01:00:28,250 --> 01:00:31,050 What is more, I would let them have a taste of cold steel 1025 01:00:31,050 --> 01:00:35,570 because they don't like it up 'em, sir, they do not like it up 'em! AUDIENCE CHEER 1026 01:00:35,570 --> 01:00:40,250 You had to ask them, could they not quite respond to that particular line, uh... 1027 01:00:40,250 --> 01:00:42,690 so...so enthusiastically? 1028 01:00:42,690 --> 01:00:48,010 When Dad's Army was rebooted as a movie in 2016... Bravo, Mainwaring. 1029 01:00:48,010 --> 01:00:51,890 ..the catchphrases were inevitably part of the trailer, 1030 01:00:51,890 --> 01:00:55,530 reassuring fans that their favourite lines would not be overlooked. 1031 01:00:55,530 --> 01:00:59,250 It's all hands on deck. An enemy spy is operating somewhere near here. 1032 01:01:01,210 --> 01:01:03,410 I'll catch him, sir. What does he look like? 1033 01:01:03,410 --> 01:01:06,970 We don't know, Frank. That's rather the point with spies. Stupid boy! 1034 01:01:06,970 --> 01:01:10,770 Captain Mainwaring's withering put-down of poor Pike 1035 01:01:10,770 --> 01:01:14,330 was probably the most uttered catchphrase of the show. 1036 01:01:14,330 --> 01:01:16,690 When I was a boy, 1037 01:01:16,690 --> 01:01:19,450 I had a terrible school report and my father said to me, 1038 01:01:19,450 --> 01:01:22,490 "This is awful. You've got to have some qualifications." 1039 01:01:22,490 --> 01:01:24,690 I said, "I don't need any qualifications. 1040 01:01:24,690 --> 01:01:27,450 "I'm gonna be a famous film star or a great comedian." 1041 01:01:27,450 --> 01:01:30,850 And he looked at me and said, "You stupid boy." 1042 01:01:30,850 --> 01:01:34,730 I know Jimmy and David never set out initially to write catchphrases. 1043 01:01:34,730 --> 01:01:39,010 Catchphrases write themselves. If a catchphrase happens that the character uses, 1044 01:01:39,010 --> 01:01:44,410 a line that they use a few times and the public latch on to it, then you've got your catchphrase. 1045 01:01:44,410 --> 01:01:48,450 That's the great thing about a really good actor. A catchphrase doesn't seem like a catchphrase 1046 01:01:48,450 --> 01:01:51,810 because he always says it slightly differently in the context of the line. 1047 01:01:51,810 --> 01:01:54,850 It's very often a throwaway at the end of what he's said, 1048 01:01:54,850 --> 01:01:59,610 so he incorporates it into the sense of whatever the scene is. 1049 01:01:59,610 --> 01:02:01,890 Is he fighting you, Mr Mainwaring? 1050 01:02:04,330 --> 01:02:07,170 Of course he isn't fighting me, you stupid boy. 1051 01:02:08,730 --> 01:02:11,130 Well, it's easily solved, isn't it? 1052 01:02:14,810 --> 01:02:17,210 Stupid boy. 1053 01:02:21,090 --> 01:02:23,210 You stupid boy. 1054 01:02:24,250 --> 01:02:26,330 It wasn't repeating "stupid boy". 1055 01:02:26,330 --> 01:02:28,850 It was sometimes anger, sometimes humorous, 1056 01:02:28,850 --> 01:02:31,970 and that was what was brilliant and he delivered it so well. 1057 01:02:31,970 --> 01:02:35,410 If you're gonna have a catchphrase, deliver it well. Arthur did. 1058 01:02:35,410 --> 01:02:40,250 Dad never, ever said "you stupid boy" to me, 1059 01:02:40,250 --> 01:02:43,490 but I often saw him looking at me 1060 01:02:43,490 --> 01:02:45,570 and I heard... 1061 01:02:45,570 --> 01:02:50,290 I sort of heard the line in my own head, "You stupid boy." 1062 01:02:50,290 --> 01:02:54,090 And I think that... HE LAUGHS ..it was pretty close. 1063 01:02:54,090 --> 01:02:56,090 APPLAUSE 1064 01:02:57,530 --> 01:02:59,890 You ruddy hooligan! 1065 01:02:59,890 --> 01:03:03,690 # Thank you for the days 1066 01:03:03,690 --> 01:03:08,010 # Those endless days, those sacred days you gave me... # 1067 01:03:08,010 --> 01:03:12,730 But perhaps the one thing that makes Dad's Army stand out amongst the crowd 1068 01:03:12,730 --> 01:03:14,810 is its utter Britishness. 1069 01:03:14,810 --> 01:03:17,610 # I won't forget a single day, believe me... # 1070 01:03:17,610 --> 01:03:20,330 The reason that Dad's Army has endured for half a century 1071 01:03:20,330 --> 01:03:23,090 through 80 episodes, Christmas specials, 1072 01:03:23,090 --> 01:03:27,810 is because it is a beautifully played, beautifully written comedy that has heart. 1073 01:03:27,810 --> 01:03:32,130 One of those rare things, the time was right, the cast was right, 1074 01:03:32,130 --> 01:03:34,370 the script was right and the idea was right. 1075 01:03:34,370 --> 01:03:36,450 # Days I'll remember all my life... # 1076 01:03:36,450 --> 01:03:41,450 I think you absolutely could describe Dad's Army as the quintessential British sitcom. 1077 01:03:41,450 --> 01:03:45,810 This is the sitcom which reflects aspects of our character and our personality 1078 01:03:45,810 --> 01:03:47,930 that we would like to have. 1079 01:03:47,930 --> 01:03:52,290 Even though we're a bit crap in some things, we will carry on and do our best. 1080 01:03:52,290 --> 01:03:54,450 No! LAUGHTER 1081 01:03:54,450 --> 01:03:56,530 Shall I carry on? Hold on, hold on. 1082 01:03:56,530 --> 01:03:59,490 The reason it's endured is because it's darned funny. 1083 01:04:00,570 --> 01:04:03,610 And nothing survives like stuff that's properly funny 1084 01:04:03,610 --> 01:04:07,370 with characters who we can laugh at and feel affection for. 1085 01:04:07,370 --> 01:04:11,650 We know people like those people in that cast 1086 01:04:11,650 --> 01:04:14,210 that we can relate to and that's what comedy is. 1087 01:04:14,210 --> 01:04:17,610 I think the British especially love the underdog. It's very endearing 1088 01:04:17,610 --> 01:04:19,690 to see a little man triumph. 1089 01:04:19,690 --> 01:04:23,330 It sums up nostalgia, it sums up the best of us, it sums up winning. 1090 01:04:23,330 --> 01:04:27,210 It never fails to make me smile, usually with a warm glow. 1091 01:04:27,210 --> 01:04:31,610 There's very little that makes me laugh out loud 1092 01:04:31,610 --> 01:04:35,490 and Dad's Army is just one of those programmes that does. 1093 01:04:35,490 --> 01:04:38,850 Dad's Army made us laugh for 80 episodes, 1094 01:04:38,850 --> 01:04:41,730 but the final scene made a serious point 1095 01:04:41,730 --> 01:04:46,170 as the platoon saluted the inspiration for the whole series. 1096 01:04:46,170 --> 01:04:48,930 It ends on a wonderful moment 1097 01:04:48,930 --> 01:04:52,290 when they all agree that they will stand and fight 1098 01:04:52,290 --> 01:04:55,210 and they make a tribute to the Home Guard to camera 1099 01:04:55,210 --> 01:04:59,970 and what an amazing end to nine years of Dad's Army. 1100 01:04:59,970 --> 01:05:03,810 If anybody tries to take our homes or our freedom away from us, they'll find out what we can do. 1101 01:05:03,810 --> 01:05:05,890 We'll fight. 1102 01:05:05,890 --> 01:05:08,970 And we're not alone. There are thousands of us all over England. 1103 01:05:08,970 --> 01:05:11,130 And Scotland. And Scotland. 1104 01:05:11,130 --> 01:05:13,330 All over Great Britain, in fact. 1105 01:05:13,330 --> 01:05:16,250 Men who will stand together when their country needs them. 1106 01:05:16,250 --> 01:05:21,170 Excuse me, sir. Don't you think it might be a nice idea if we were to pay our tribute to them? 1107 01:05:22,210 --> 01:05:24,490 For once, Wilson, I agree with you. 1108 01:05:24,490 --> 01:05:26,610 To Britain's Home Guard! 1109 01:05:28,490 --> 01:05:30,810 ALL: To Britain's Home Guard! 1110 01:05:34,570 --> 01:05:38,810 Dad's view on it was that he just absolutely felt pretty privileged, 1111 01:05:38,810 --> 01:05:43,010 I think, that he was in such a show and that it had given him 1112 01:05:43,010 --> 01:05:45,490 such a happy time in his life. 1113 01:05:45,490 --> 01:05:48,970 I think Johnny would be pleasantly surprised, really. 1114 01:05:48,970 --> 01:05:51,050 He wouldn't be jumping up and down. 1115 01:05:51,050 --> 01:05:56,130 He would just go, "I can't believe people are still watching it." 1116 01:05:56,130 --> 01:05:59,050 He loved it, yeah. 1117 01:05:59,050 --> 01:06:03,370 They were brothers in arms by the end of shooting Dad's Army 1118 01:06:03,370 --> 01:06:08,410 and, uh...this showed in the way they were knitted as a team, yeah. 1119 01:06:08,410 --> 01:06:13,930 The only reason why it stopped was because we lost three of our leading characters 1120 01:06:13,930 --> 01:06:18,490 and we were all getting rather old, so we stopped while the going was still good. 1121 01:06:18,490 --> 01:06:20,690 Somehow we belonged to the country. 1122 01:06:20,690 --> 01:06:22,890 It seemed as though we were part of the fabric 1123 01:06:22,890 --> 01:06:26,930 and people liked having us around like a favourite armchair, 1124 01:06:26,930 --> 01:06:30,930 um...which was a very, very lovely feeling to have. 1125 01:06:30,930 --> 01:06:33,170 Hey, it's a living. 1126 01:06:33,170 --> 01:06:35,610 Or it was. 1127 01:06:35,610 --> 01:06:41,410 Yeah, I miss it terribly. It was to me the finest kind of pension an old man could have. 1128 01:06:41,410 --> 01:06:43,530 LAUGHTER 1129 01:07:08,370 --> 01:07:10,370 Subtitles by Red Bee Media