1 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,100 Ooh, hello! Ana, how you going? 2 00:00:49,100 --> 00:00:53,900 We're here to talk about some of our favourite disco, late '70s, 3 00:00:53,900 --> 00:00:58,860 early '80s synthesised, fabulous moments of music. 4 00:00:59,380 --> 00:01:04,420 Absolutely. I do some DJ-ing and this is exactly the area that I do. 5 00:01:04,780 --> 00:01:06,900 Great. So we're on the same page. 6 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:08,340 We are on the same page, 7 00:01:08,340 --> 00:01:10,780 which we learned the first time we met each other... 8 00:01:10,780 --> 00:01:13,860 Yeah ..which was at the Radio Academy conference, 9 00:01:13,860 --> 00:01:16,740 when I got to interview you, which was so, so cool. 10 00:01:16,740 --> 00:01:19,500 We're going to be watching some really good, some really good... 11 00:01:19,500 --> 00:01:22,100 Let's talk about the stuff we love. Yeah, let's. 12 00:01:27,020 --> 00:01:30,260 Well, what can you say about I Feel Love, other than it's a song 13 00:01:30,260 --> 00:01:32,900 that always sounds 15 years in the future? 14 00:01:32,900 --> 00:01:35,020 I remember hearing it for the very first time 15 00:01:35,020 --> 00:01:37,180 at a big outdoor garden party. 16 00:01:37,180 --> 00:01:41,060 Until then, I thought electronic music was a bit drifty and hippy. 17 00:01:41,060 --> 00:01:45,500 Yeah. I liked it, but then I heard it on a big PA system 18 00:01:45,500 --> 00:01:47,420 and this came on and I thought, 19 00:01:47,420 --> 00:01:49,780 "My God, I get it. I want to do this." Mmm. 20 00:01:49,780 --> 00:01:52,500 # Ooh 21 00:01:52,500 --> 00:01:55,940 # It's so good, it's so good, it's so good, it's so good 22 00:01:55,940 --> 00:01:58,860 # It's so good 23 00:02:03,980 --> 00:02:06,860 # Ooh 24 00:02:06,860 --> 00:02:10,620 # Heaven knows, heaven knows, heaven knows, heaven knows 25 00:02:10,620 --> 00:02:13,300 # Heaven knows 26 00:02:18,340 --> 00:02:21,300 # Ooh 27 00:02:21,300 --> 00:02:24,700 # I feel love, I feel love, I feel love, I feel love 28 00:02:24,700 --> 00:02:28,020 # I feel love 29 00:02:31,900 --> 00:02:36,700 # I feel lo-o-o-o-ove 30 00:02:39,380 --> 00:02:43,860 # I feel lo-o-o-o-ove 31 00:02:46,620 --> 00:02:49,260 # I feel love. # 32 00:02:53,620 --> 00:02:55,340 It's such an incredible song. 33 00:02:55,340 --> 00:02:58,180 It's so simple when you break it down. 34 00:02:58,180 --> 00:02:59,660 I just love her voice. 35 00:02:59,660 --> 00:03:02,100 I've always thought that Donna Summer's voice has a certain 36 00:03:02,100 --> 00:03:03,940 other-worldly quality. 37 00:03:03,940 --> 00:03:06,140 Absolutely. I don't know what it is about it. 38 00:03:06,140 --> 00:03:10,820 It's not quite soul. It's almost like a kind of angelic soul. 39 00:03:10,820 --> 00:03:14,340 Well, she obviously, like so many of the great soul singers, 40 00:03:14,340 --> 00:03:16,740 got her start in gospel church. Yeah, yeah. 41 00:03:16,740 --> 00:03:19,140 She knows how to touch the sky. 42 00:03:19,140 --> 00:03:21,740 She also got her break with Giorgio Moroder... Yeah. 43 00:03:21,740 --> 00:03:23,980 ..and, funnily enough, 44 00:03:23,980 --> 00:03:27,820 a lot of these innovations came from Europe back into America. Yeah. 45 00:03:31,540 --> 00:03:34,060 # Ooh 46 00:03:34,060 --> 00:03:37,620 # I feel love, I feel love, I feel love, I feel love 47 00:03:37,620 --> 00:03:41,060 # I fe-e-e-eel love 48 00:03:44,660 --> 00:03:49,260 # I feel lo-o-o-o-ove 49 00:03:52,860 --> 00:03:56,900 # Lo-o-o-o-ove 50 00:04:00,220 --> 00:04:02,260 # Love. # 51 00:04:03,700 --> 00:04:07,060 Right, well, this is probably where it all started for me. 52 00:04:07,060 --> 00:04:10,460 When I was seven, being terrified. 53 00:04:10,460 --> 00:04:13,940 The cliche, hiding behind the sofa, waiting for the Daleks to arrive. 54 00:04:13,940 --> 00:04:17,460 It's the Doctor Who theme... Amazing. ..written by Ron Grainer. 55 00:04:17,460 --> 00:04:19,340 They had to really create... 56 00:04:19,340 --> 00:04:22,660 It's not like now where you've got every sound on Earth at your 57 00:04:22,660 --> 00:04:24,980 disposal at the click of a finger. 58 00:04:24,980 --> 00:04:28,380 They had to actually create sounds from Foley, really. 59 00:05:00,580 --> 00:05:01,820 Cos the... 60 00:05:01,820 --> 00:05:03,460 # Woo-oo-ooo. # 61 00:05:03,460 --> 00:05:04,820 Is that a theremin? 62 00:05:04,820 --> 00:05:07,260 So beautiful. No, it's your voice. 63 00:05:07,260 --> 00:05:09,660 No, actually, it was... 64 00:05:09,660 --> 00:05:12,380 They explained it and I wanted it to be a theremin... Yeah. 65 00:05:12,380 --> 00:05:15,940 ..but actually it was a test oscillator just going... 66 00:05:15,940 --> 00:05:18,820 # Woo-oo-ooo. # 67 00:05:21,620 --> 00:05:23,260 And, likewise, the... 68 00:05:23,260 --> 00:05:25,460 # Ba-ba-ba-bum, ba-ba-ba-bum, ba-ba-ba # 69 00:05:25,460 --> 00:05:27,420 ..that's a lampshade being hit. 70 00:05:27,420 --> 00:05:28,740 Oh, wow! 71 00:05:28,740 --> 00:05:31,300 And then played at a different speed to get different notes. 72 00:05:31,300 --> 00:05:33,220 Then all the notes edited together. 73 00:05:33,220 --> 00:05:35,140 I know, it's crazy. 74 00:05:37,140 --> 00:05:40,780 These guys were really ahead of their time in terms of 75 00:05:40,780 --> 00:05:43,940 assembling sounds and using found sounds... 76 00:05:43,940 --> 00:05:47,020 So cool. ..and that's been such an influence on my career. 77 00:05:47,020 --> 00:05:51,100 Everything from The Human League right up to my Soundscape work now. 78 00:05:51,100 --> 00:05:53,700 Definitely one of the groups that has been with me 79 00:05:53,700 --> 00:05:55,180 throughout my whole life. 80 00:05:55,180 --> 00:05:58,380 It started in the '80s when I was younger. 81 00:05:58,380 --> 00:06:02,700 I had the 45 of Neutron Dance 82 00:06:02,700 --> 00:06:06,900 and then went to get pretty much the entire discography 83 00:06:06,900 --> 00:06:09,500 of Pointer Sisters, who I love. Oh, cool. 84 00:06:09,500 --> 00:06:13,980 They're a group that I think is quite underrated. I agree with you. 85 00:06:13,980 --> 00:06:17,940 Yeah, as a deep-voiced young girl, 86 00:06:17,940 --> 00:06:22,980 who used to get a lot of stick from the boys for having a deep voice, 87 00:06:23,180 --> 00:06:26,220 this was one of the songs that I could actually sing along to 88 00:06:26,220 --> 00:06:30,580 and Ruth Pointer sort of became a vocal hero of mine. Really? 89 00:06:31,620 --> 00:06:34,020 # Look what you're doing to me 90 00:06:34,020 --> 00:06:35,860 # I'm utterly at your whim 91 00:06:35,860 --> 00:06:38,260 # All of my defences down 92 00:06:40,220 --> 00:06:42,260 # Your camera looks through me 93 00:06:42,260 --> 00:06:44,100 # With its X-ray vision 94 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:47,100 # And all systems run aground 95 00:06:48,620 --> 00:06:52,340 # All I can manage to push from my lips 96 00:06:52,340 --> 00:06:55,180 # Is a stream of absurdities 97 00:06:57,380 --> 00:07:00,740 # Every word I intended to speak 98 00:07:00,740 --> 00:07:04,380 # Winds up locked in the circuitry 99 00:07:06,020 --> 00:07:07,940 # No way to control it 100 00:07:07,940 --> 00:07:10,380 # It's totally automatic 101 00:07:10,380 --> 00:07:13,140 # Whenever you're around 102 00:07:14,940 --> 00:07:16,780 # I'm walking blindfolded 103 00:07:16,780 --> 00:07:18,860 # Completely automatic 104 00:07:18,860 --> 00:07:21,700 # All of my systems are down 105 00:07:21,700 --> 00:07:23,380 # Down, down, down 106 00:07:23,380 --> 00:07:27,260 # Automatic Automatic 107 00:07:27,260 --> 00:07:31,900 # Automatic Automatic. # 108 00:07:31,900 --> 00:07:36,660 There's something about families harmonising together 109 00:07:36,660 --> 00:07:40,380 that sounds so beautiful and full. Yeah. 110 00:07:40,380 --> 00:07:43,860 It's almost like versions of the same voice. Yeah. 111 00:07:45,260 --> 00:07:47,660 # Automatic 112 00:07:49,020 --> 00:07:53,380 # Automatic 113 00:07:53,380 --> 00:07:55,500 # Look what you're doing to me 114 00:07:55,500 --> 00:07:57,620 # I'm utterly at your whim 115 00:07:57,620 --> 00:08:00,300 # All of my defences down 116 00:08:02,020 --> 00:08:04,220 # Your camera looks through me 117 00:08:04,220 --> 00:08:06,140 # With its X-ray vision 118 00:08:06,140 --> 00:08:08,980 # And all systems run aground 119 00:08:10,540 --> 00:08:13,940 # All I can manage to push from my lips 120 00:08:13,940 --> 00:08:17,180 # Is a stream of absurdities 121 00:08:19,100 --> 00:08:22,420 # Every word I intended to speak 122 00:08:22,420 --> 00:08:26,140 # Winds up locked in the circuitry 123 00:08:27,740 --> 00:08:29,940 # No way to control it 124 00:08:29,940 --> 00:08:31,940 # It's totally automatic 125 00:08:31,940 --> 00:08:34,460 # Whenever you're around 126 00:08:36,420 --> 00:08:38,540 # I'm walking blindfolded 127 00:08:38,540 --> 00:08:40,740 # Completely automatic 128 00:08:40,740 --> 00:08:43,740 # All of my systems are down 129 00:08:43,740 --> 00:08:45,860 # Down, down. # 130 00:08:45,860 --> 00:08:48,460 So, The Temptations' Ball Of Confusion. 131 00:08:48,460 --> 00:08:52,020 I actually did a cover of this with Tina Turner... Yes, you did. 132 00:08:52,020 --> 00:08:55,100 ..on the first BEF album cos I've always loved this song. 133 00:08:55,100 --> 00:08:59,180 I've always loved protest songs from that period... Hmm-mm. 134 00:08:59,180 --> 00:09:03,180 ..and this kind of evocation of ghetto life and the difficulty 135 00:09:03,180 --> 00:09:06,500 of working class black communities. 136 00:09:06,500 --> 00:09:11,020 Ball Of Confusion to me is the ultimate version of that kind 137 00:09:11,020 --> 00:09:14,260 of theory, plus it's a great tune. 138 00:09:14,260 --> 00:09:17,220 # People movin' out, people movin' in 139 00:09:17,220 --> 00:09:19,700 # Why, because of the colour of their skin 140 00:09:19,700 --> 00:09:21,700 # Run, run, run, 141 00:09:21,700 --> 00:09:23,740 # But you sho' can't hide 142 00:09:25,180 --> 00:09:27,900 # An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth 143 00:09:27,900 --> 00:09:30,380 # Vote for me and I'll set you free 144 00:09:30,380 --> 00:09:33,540 # Rap on, brother, rap on 145 00:09:35,340 --> 00:09:39,380 # Well, the only person talkin' bout love thy brother is the preacher 146 00:09:41,020 --> 00:09:45,220 # And it seems nobody's interested in learning but the teacher 147 00:09:45,220 --> 00:09:47,140 # Listen to me, will you please? 148 00:09:47,140 --> 00:09:49,820 # Segregation, determination, demonstration, integration 149 00:09:49,820 --> 00:09:52,780 # Aggravation, humiliation, obligation to our nation 150 00:09:52,780 --> 00:09:55,060 # Ball Of Confusion 151 00:09:55,060 --> 00:09:57,900 # Oh, yeah, yeah 152 00:09:57,900 --> 00:10:01,220 # That's what the world is today Hey, hey 153 00:10:03,660 --> 00:10:06,140 # The sale of pills at an all time high 154 00:10:06,140 --> 00:10:08,420 # Young folks walkin' round with their heads in the sky 155 00:10:08,420 --> 00:10:11,340 # Cities aflame in the summer time 156 00:10:11,340 --> 00:10:14,700 # And, oh, the beat goes on 157 00:10:20,180 --> 00:10:22,820 # Evolution, revolution, gun control, the sound of soul 158 00:10:22,820 --> 00:10:25,580 # Shootin' rockets to the moon, kids growin' up too soon 159 00:10:25,580 --> 00:10:29,700 # Politicians say more taxes will solve everything 160 00:10:29,700 --> 00:10:32,180 # And the band played on 161 00:10:36,220 --> 00:10:39,100 # Round and round and around we go 162 00:10:39,100 --> 00:10:41,700 # Where the world's headed nobody knows. # 163 00:10:42,860 --> 00:10:47,860 1970 was the year this came out and obviously in the United States 164 00:10:47,860 --> 00:10:49,780 there's the Vietnam War going on. 165 00:10:49,780 --> 00:10:52,900 Civil rights movement. Massive protests all the time. 166 00:10:52,900 --> 00:10:56,940 But also the record companies saw that you could actually sell 167 00:10:56,940 --> 00:10:58,220 records on the basis of it, 168 00:10:58,220 --> 00:11:01,820 so it wasn't just like some little independent label. 169 00:11:01,820 --> 00:11:04,860 We're moving into the mainstream here for protest. Yeah. 170 00:11:04,860 --> 00:11:07,220 Very interesting period. Yeah. I love this period. 171 00:11:07,220 --> 00:11:10,340 # That's what the world is today Hey, hey 172 00:11:12,300 --> 00:11:14,620 # Fear in the air, tension everywhere 173 00:11:14,620 --> 00:11:16,540 # Unemployment rising fast 174 00:11:16,540 --> 00:11:18,060 # The Beatles' new record's a gas 175 00:11:18,060 --> 00:11:22,460 # And the only safe place to live is on an Indian reservation 176 00:11:22,460 --> 00:11:24,300 # And the band played on. # 177 00:11:26,660 --> 00:11:29,540 And it's just... Oh, the brass is awesome. 178 00:11:29,540 --> 00:11:33,060 # Eve of destruction, tax deduction, city inspectors, bill collectors 179 00:11:33,060 --> 00:11:36,380 # Mod clothes in demand # Population out of hand. # 180 00:11:36,380 --> 00:11:39,020 # Suicide too many bills, hippies movin' to the hills 181 00:11:39,020 --> 00:11:43,580 # People all over the world are shouting end the war 182 00:11:43,580 --> 00:11:45,300 # And the band played on. # 183 00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:48,060 See, I always wanted to be the guy who had the bass stuff. Yeah! 184 00:11:48,060 --> 00:11:51,220 I can't get that low - # And the band played on. # 185 00:11:51,220 --> 00:11:54,060 This stuff was not just entertaining, 186 00:11:54,060 --> 00:11:59,140 but it was also like a newsreel, musically. Yeah, yeah. 187 00:11:59,900 --> 00:12:01,860 Incredible, eh? Yeah, definitely. 188 00:12:01,860 --> 00:12:03,620 We need more of that stuff. 189 00:12:03,620 --> 00:12:05,380 # Can't you hear me talking to you? 190 00:12:05,380 --> 00:12:07,460 # Ball of confusion 191 00:12:10,300 --> 00:12:13,380 # That's what the world is today, ooh! # 192 00:12:13,380 --> 00:12:17,820 I chose as one of my songs, one of my all-time favourite bands, 193 00:12:17,820 --> 00:12:19,660 who is Blondie. 194 00:12:19,660 --> 00:12:23,260 Mine too. They are such a great band. 195 00:12:23,260 --> 00:12:27,780 I think they skirted so many different genres and lines. 196 00:12:27,780 --> 00:12:30,220 Lots of experimentation. 197 00:12:30,220 --> 00:12:34,820 Lots of embracing of synth pop and definitely disco. 198 00:12:34,820 --> 00:12:36,980 And defining it. Yeah, for sure. 199 00:12:36,980 --> 00:12:40,940 # When I met you in the restaurant 200 00:12:42,980 --> 00:12:47,260 # You could tell I was no debutante 201 00:12:49,740 --> 00:12:52,940 # You asked me what's my pleasure 202 00:12:52,940 --> 00:12:55,940 # A movie or a measure? 203 00:12:55,940 --> 00:12:58,620 # I'll have a cup of tea 204 00:12:58,620 --> 00:13:01,940 # And tell you of my dreamin' 205 00:13:03,300 --> 00:13:06,180 # Dreamin' is free 206 00:13:06,180 --> 00:13:08,820 # Dreamin' 207 00:13:08,820 --> 00:13:11,940 # Dreaming is free 208 00:13:11,940 --> 00:13:15,900 # I don't want to live on charity 209 00:13:17,820 --> 00:13:21,660 # Pleasure's real or is it fantasy? 210 00:13:23,620 --> 00:13:27,740 # Reel to reel is living rarity 211 00:13:27,740 --> 00:13:30,900 # People stop and stare at me 212 00:13:30,900 --> 00:13:33,820 # We just walk on by 213 00:13:33,820 --> 00:13:37,100 # We just keep on dreamin' 214 00:13:38,460 --> 00:13:41,300 # Feet feet, walking a two-mile 215 00:13:41,300 --> 00:13:44,180 # Meet me, meet me at the turnstile. # 216 00:13:44,180 --> 00:13:47,380 Oh, she's so great and an amazing songwriter. Yes. 217 00:13:47,380 --> 00:13:49,460 An incredible voice. Yes. 218 00:13:49,460 --> 00:13:52,660 Clem Burke, it must be said, one of the greatest drummer of all time. 219 00:13:52,660 --> 00:13:55,220 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 220 00:13:55,220 --> 00:13:59,260 I always loved what she said about her hair, which, you know, 221 00:13:59,260 --> 00:14:01,820 blond in the front and then black in the back. 222 00:14:01,820 --> 00:14:04,460 "Why isn't your hair blond in the back?" 223 00:14:05,860 --> 00:14:07,940 I couldn't SEE the back! 224 00:14:07,940 --> 00:14:10,420 Ah, brilliant! 225 00:14:10,420 --> 00:14:14,100 # I sit by and watch the traffic go 226 00:14:15,940 --> 00:14:20,300 # Imagine something of your very own 227 00:14:20,300 --> 00:14:23,060 # Something you can have and hold 228 00:14:23,060 --> 00:14:25,780 # I'd build a road in gold 229 00:14:25,780 --> 00:14:29,060 # Just to have some dreamin' 230 00:14:30,460 --> 00:14:33,300 # Dreamin' is free 231 00:14:33,300 --> 00:14:36,140 # Dreamin' 232 00:14:36,140 --> 00:14:38,380 # Dreamin' is free. # 233 00:14:39,820 --> 00:14:43,140 I'd seen punk starting in New York, really, 234 00:14:43,140 --> 00:14:45,140 with New York Dolls and everything. 235 00:14:45,140 --> 00:14:48,620 But then when it took off in London and they were just starting 236 00:14:48,620 --> 00:14:52,820 to become popular in England, I thought thank God there's 237 00:14:52,820 --> 00:14:55,580 somebody who can actually write songs in the middle of all this. 238 00:14:55,580 --> 00:14:56,860 Yeah. 239 00:14:56,860 --> 00:14:59,420 They'd got the energy and the rebellion of punk, 240 00:14:59,420 --> 00:15:01,620 but just great songs too. 241 00:15:04,140 --> 00:15:08,340 Like Donna Summer, Blondie also worked with Giorgio Moroder... Yeah. 242 00:15:08,340 --> 00:15:10,340 ..and kind of, you know, 243 00:15:10,340 --> 00:15:15,380 they luckily managed to kind of go beyond the sort of disco backlash, 244 00:15:16,180 --> 00:15:19,460 but it did, I think, hurt their career a little bit. 245 00:15:19,460 --> 00:15:23,860 Why do you think disco was so violently reacted against 246 00:15:23,860 --> 00:15:25,300 in America then? 247 00:15:25,300 --> 00:15:28,860 I think it was because it was music for gay people and black people. 248 00:15:28,860 --> 00:15:33,860 Yes. What a lot of people don't understand is that disco started in 249 00:15:34,380 --> 00:15:39,420 the living rooms of people who lived in lofts in New York 250 00:15:39,860 --> 00:15:43,620 and they started members-only parties with their friends 251 00:15:43,620 --> 00:15:48,540 because men were not allowed to dance alone in a room without women. 252 00:15:49,500 --> 00:15:51,940 Really? It was illegal... What?! ..in 1969, 253 00:15:51,940 --> 00:15:55,260 and it's one of the reasons why the Stonewall riot happened. Really? 254 00:15:55,260 --> 00:15:56,780 Yeah. I never knew that. 255 00:15:56,780 --> 00:16:01,780 1970 was really sort of the first, kind of seen as the first year 256 00:16:02,020 --> 00:16:06,460 of people getting together to dance together in this way. 257 00:16:06,460 --> 00:16:09,220 It was David Mancuso at The Loft. 258 00:16:09,220 --> 00:16:14,260 It's a shock that it's so recent to me. Yeah, yeah. 259 00:16:14,420 --> 00:16:16,140 Wow! Yeah. 260 00:16:16,140 --> 00:16:19,340 And how easily we could slip back into... Oh, yeah. 261 00:16:19,340 --> 00:16:21,460 .. this stuff if we're not careful. 262 00:16:21,460 --> 00:16:23,420 It's very important. Yeah. 263 00:16:29,020 --> 00:16:33,500 OK, my next choice is going to be Supernature by Cerrone. Oh! 264 00:16:33,500 --> 00:16:35,380 I love this song! 265 00:16:35,380 --> 00:16:40,380 This is the absolute kind of core, for me, of electronic disco. 266 00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:44,940 I really like the content of the lyrics. 267 00:16:44,940 --> 00:16:49,020 See, I think the lyrics are so weird. What is it about? 268 00:16:49,020 --> 00:16:51,540 It's like some kind of strange fantasy world. 269 00:16:51,540 --> 00:16:53,900 It's like an Island of Doctor Moreau, sort of... Yeah. 270 00:16:53,900 --> 00:16:57,420 I kind of like it because there's all these people going, 271 00:16:57,420 --> 00:17:01,420 "We've got all these amazing disco backing tracks. 272 00:17:01,420 --> 00:17:03,140 "We've got to write some lyrics... Yeah. 273 00:17:03,140 --> 00:17:06,140 "..otherwise we're going to end up with Let's All Chant!" 274 00:17:06,140 --> 00:17:09,100 # Once upon a time 275 00:17:09,100 --> 00:17:11,540 # Science opened up the door 276 00:17:13,220 --> 00:17:15,980 # We would feed the hungry fields 277 00:17:17,180 --> 00:17:19,700 # Till they couldn't eat no more 278 00:17:21,060 --> 00:17:23,420 # But the potions that we made 279 00:17:24,860 --> 00:17:27,660 # Touched the creatures down below 280 00:17:28,900 --> 00:17:32,620 # And they grew up in a way 281 00:17:32,620 --> 00:17:35,340 # That we'd never seen before. # 282 00:17:37,140 --> 00:17:40,300 Is he in a kind of nuclear bubble? 283 00:17:40,300 --> 00:17:41,940 I think that's what they're going for. 284 00:17:41,940 --> 00:17:43,860 This isn't Mad Max at all, is it? 285 00:17:43,860 --> 00:17:45,500 ANA LAUGHS 286 00:17:45,500 --> 00:17:48,580 Not even Doctor Who! 287 00:17:48,580 --> 00:17:50,740 # Supernature. # 288 00:17:53,300 --> 00:17:56,540 This is just one of the best disco tracks ever. It is. 289 00:17:56,540 --> 00:17:58,460 # Supernature. # 290 00:17:58,460 --> 00:18:02,020 Actually, the backing track sounds very similar to Giorgio Moroder. 291 00:18:02,020 --> 00:18:04,180 Yeah, yeah. 292 00:18:04,180 --> 00:18:06,420 # Supernature 293 00:18:08,580 --> 00:18:11,860 # How can I explain? 294 00:18:11,860 --> 00:18:14,460 # Things are different today 295 00:18:15,980 --> 00:18:19,540 # Darkness all around 296 00:18:19,540 --> 00:18:22,220 # And nobody makes a sound 297 00:18:23,740 --> 00:18:26,700 # Such a sad affair. # 298 00:18:28,140 --> 00:18:30,580 I think if we're talking disco, 299 00:18:30,580 --> 00:18:34,220 we HAVE to talk the genius of Maurice White. 300 00:18:34,220 --> 00:18:37,020 Genius of Maurice White and... Earth, Wind & Fire. 301 00:18:37,020 --> 00:18:38,420 ..Earth, Wind & Fire, yeah. 302 00:18:38,420 --> 00:18:41,540 And The Emotions. And The Emotions with them in this. 303 00:18:41,540 --> 00:18:44,180 You get two for one - Boogie Wonderland. 304 00:18:44,180 --> 00:18:47,020 # Dance 305 00:18:47,020 --> 00:18:49,660 # Boogie wonderland 306 00:18:49,660 --> 00:18:52,100 # Ha, ha, dance 307 00:18:54,340 --> 00:18:57,420 # Boogie wonderland 308 00:18:58,940 --> 00:19:03,820 # Midnight creeps so slowly into hearts of men 309 00:19:03,820 --> 00:19:06,460 # Who need more than they get 310 00:19:06,460 --> 00:19:10,580 # Daylight deals a bad hand to a woman 311 00:19:10,580 --> 00:19:13,820 # Who has laid too many bets 312 00:19:13,820 --> 00:19:17,460 # The mirror stares you in the face 313 00:19:17,460 --> 00:19:21,260 # And says, "Baby, uh, uh, it don't work" 314 00:19:21,260 --> 00:19:24,820 # You say your prayers though you don't care 315 00:19:24,820 --> 00:19:28,140 # You dance and shake the hurt 316 00:19:28,140 --> 00:19:30,580 # Dance 317 00:19:30,580 --> 00:19:33,620 # Boogie wonderland 318 00:19:33,620 --> 00:19:36,220 # Ha, ha, dance 319 00:19:38,420 --> 00:19:41,260 # Boogie wonderland 320 00:19:42,940 --> 00:19:45,100 # Sounds fly through the night 321 00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:50,140 # I chase my vinyl dreams to Boogie Wonderland 322 00:19:50,380 --> 00:19:54,060 # I find romance when I start to dance 323 00:19:54,060 --> 00:19:57,940 # In Boogie Wonderland 324 00:19:57,940 --> 00:20:01,300 # I find romance when I start to dance 325 00:20:01,300 --> 00:20:04,620 # In Boogie Wonderland 326 00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:08,460 # All the 327 00:20:08,460 --> 00:20:12,060 # Love in the world can't be gone 328 00:20:12,060 --> 00:20:16,100 # All the need to be loved can't be wrong. # 329 00:20:18,300 --> 00:20:20,260 This very nearly didn't get recorded. 330 00:20:20,260 --> 00:20:23,820 It was very, very late in the day that Maurice White agreed to 331 00:20:23,820 --> 00:20:26,300 do the song cos he didn't think it was a hit. Yeah. 332 00:20:26,300 --> 00:20:28,860 How wrong was he? Just shows everybody can get things wrong. 333 00:20:28,860 --> 00:20:32,380 One of their biggest. Yeah, absolutely. 334 00:20:32,380 --> 00:20:34,940 # Dance 335 00:20:34,940 --> 00:20:37,620 # Boogie wonderland 336 00:20:37,620 --> 00:20:40,020 # Ha, ha, dance 337 00:20:42,380 --> 00:20:44,820 # Boogie wonderland 338 00:20:44,820 --> 00:20:47,260 # Yeah, yeah, dance 339 00:20:47,260 --> 00:20:50,780 # I find romance when I start to dance 340 00:20:50,780 --> 00:20:54,220 # In Boogie Wonderland 341 00:20:54,220 --> 00:20:57,900 # I find romance when I start to dance 342 00:20:57,900 --> 00:21:01,500 # In Boogie Wonderland 343 00:21:01,500 --> 00:21:02,660 # Dance 344 00:21:02,660 --> 00:21:04,900 # Ooh-ooh-ooh, dance. # 345 00:21:04,900 --> 00:21:07,780 He's got a kind of Brazilian vibe going on. Yeah, it does. 346 00:21:07,780 --> 00:21:11,300 Very, like, carnival. Yeah. A little touch of outer space. Yeah. 347 00:21:11,300 --> 00:21:14,260 It's like a giant Pride event. Yeah. Yeah, it is, really. 348 00:21:14,260 --> 00:21:16,540 # Dance. # 349 00:21:16,540 --> 00:21:20,740 Bill Whitten, the man who made all of these looks, 350 00:21:20,740 --> 00:21:23,340 also put Michael Jackson in the glove. 351 00:21:23,340 --> 00:21:26,460 Yeah. The sparkly glove. Which came from? 352 00:21:26,460 --> 00:21:28,700 Bob Fosse! Yeah. Yeah. 353 00:21:30,820 --> 00:21:34,380 # All the 354 00:21:34,380 --> 00:21:37,820 # Love in the world can't be gone. # 355 00:21:39,780 --> 00:21:43,740 Sylvester - You Make Me Feel Mighty Real. Amazing. 356 00:21:43,740 --> 00:21:46,780 Important for a lot of reasons. Hmm. 357 00:21:46,780 --> 00:21:49,020 Ahead of its time. Ahead of its time. 358 00:21:49,020 --> 00:21:50,900 Not just sonically. 359 00:21:50,900 --> 00:21:52,700 It's very fast. 360 00:21:52,700 --> 00:21:56,740 So it's really like the one track that you drop in a discotheque 361 00:21:56,740 --> 00:21:59,020 where it's a floor-filler. 362 00:21:59,020 --> 00:22:01,060 For sure. It's one of the definitive ones. 363 00:22:01,060 --> 00:22:05,340 But he was out and proud, which was a good thing for the time. 364 00:22:05,340 --> 00:22:10,340 The lyrical content is about being honest about a gay relationship, 365 00:22:10,340 --> 00:22:13,420 which is kind of under the radar for the average listener. 366 00:22:13,420 --> 00:22:14,940 They're just digging the music. 367 00:22:14,940 --> 00:22:18,060 # You make me feel 368 00:22:18,060 --> 00:22:21,540 # Mighty real 369 00:22:21,540 --> 00:22:25,420 # You make me feel 370 00:22:25,420 --> 00:22:28,620 # Mighty real 371 00:22:28,620 --> 00:22:32,340 # When we get home, darlin' and it's nice and dark 372 00:22:32,340 --> 00:22:35,940 # And the music's in me and I'm still real hot 373 00:22:35,940 --> 00:22:39,580 # And you kiss me back and it feels real good 374 00:22:39,580 --> 00:22:42,260 # And I know you love me 375 00:22:42,260 --> 00:22:46,100 # Like you sho-o-o-o-ould 376 00:22:50,580 --> 00:22:54,300 # Oh, you make me feel 377 00:22:54,300 --> 00:22:57,700 # Mighty real 378 00:22:57,700 --> 00:23:01,580 # You make me feel 379 00:23:01,580 --> 00:23:04,020 # Mighty real. # 380 00:23:05,460 --> 00:23:09,300 Sylvester was one of those people who is definitely ahead of his time, 381 00:23:09,300 --> 00:23:13,140 from the future, and I think suffered because of it. Yes, he did. 382 00:23:13,140 --> 00:23:14,740 He was a queen. 383 00:23:14,740 --> 00:23:18,260 He was in a drag troupe called The Cockettes in San Francisco, 384 00:23:18,260 --> 00:23:21,140 trained gospel singer, 385 00:23:21,140 --> 00:23:25,260 and was one of the sort of stand-out stars of The Cockettes 386 00:23:25,260 --> 00:23:27,860 and then met Patrick Cowley and started making music. 387 00:23:27,860 --> 00:23:32,860 Right, right. He was in his 30s when this song came out and so... 388 00:23:34,180 --> 00:23:36,260 ...so unabashed. 389 00:23:36,260 --> 00:23:38,660 So unabashed. It's beautiful. 390 00:23:38,660 --> 00:23:43,660 Every gay artist who is out and proud owes a debt to Sylvester. 391 00:23:44,540 --> 00:23:46,780 # I feel real 392 00:23:48,700 --> 00:23:52,620 # You make me feel 393 00:23:52,620 --> 00:23:55,620 # Mighty real 394 00:23:55,620 --> 00:23:58,620 # You make me feel 395 00:23:59,900 --> 00:24:03,500 # Mighty real 396 00:24:03,500 --> 00:24:06,100 # Oh, you make me feel 397 00:24:07,140 --> 00:24:09,500 # Mighty real 398 00:24:10,660 --> 00:24:14,140 # You make me feel 399 00:24:14,140 --> 00:24:17,060 # Mighty real. # 400 00:24:17,060 --> 00:24:21,300 Similar to Blondie is another New York band that experimented 401 00:24:21,300 --> 00:24:25,060 with different genres and loved dance music, 402 00:24:25,060 --> 00:24:30,060 loved bringing in music from other countries and cultures 403 00:24:30,100 --> 00:24:33,460 and that's Talking Heads. Yeah, I loved them. 404 00:24:38,340 --> 00:24:40,020 I love this particular song. 405 00:24:40,020 --> 00:24:42,860 It's weird and good 406 00:24:42,860 --> 00:24:47,500 and showcases Tina Weymouth's bass playing in such a cool way. 407 00:24:47,500 --> 00:24:50,700 It's got soul, it's got... It's brilliant. 408 00:24:50,700 --> 00:24:53,540 ..that sort of irreverent art-rock thing that's they've pioneered. 409 00:24:53,540 --> 00:24:57,540 And it's funky. And funky. Listen to that guitar. 410 00:24:57,540 --> 00:24:59,660 # What about the time 411 00:24:59,660 --> 00:25:01,980 # You were rollin' over 412 00:25:01,980 --> 00:25:03,820 # Fall on your face 413 00:25:03,820 --> 00:25:06,460 # You must be having fun 414 00:25:06,460 --> 00:25:10,500 # Walk lightly, think of a time 415 00:25:10,500 --> 00:25:14,740 # You'd best believe this thing is real 416 00:25:14,740 --> 00:25:17,100 # Put away that gun 417 00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:19,220 # This part is simple 418 00:25:19,220 --> 00:25:21,260 # Try to recognise 419 00:25:21,260 --> 00:25:23,940 # What is in you mind 420 00:25:23,940 --> 00:25:25,700 # God help us 421 00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:28,060 # Help us loose our minds 422 00:25:28,060 --> 00:25:31,100 # These slippery people help us understand 423 00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:32,500 # What's the matter with him? 424 00:25:32,500 --> 00:25:34,300 # He's all right How do you know? 425 00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:36,740 # The lord won't mind Don't play no games 426 00:25:36,740 --> 00:25:40,100 # He's all right Love from the bottom to the top 427 00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:42,340 # Turn like a wheel He's all right 428 00:25:42,340 --> 00:25:44,660 # See for yourself The Lord won't mind 429 00:25:44,660 --> 00:25:46,780 # We're gonna move Right now 430 00:25:46,780 --> 00:25:50,140 # Turn like a wheel inside a wheel 431 00:25:50,140 --> 00:25:52,180 # I remember when 432 00:25:52,180 --> 00:25:54,420 # Sittin' in the tub 433 00:25:54,420 --> 00:25:56,420 # Pulled out the plug 434 00:25:56,420 --> 00:25:59,060 # The water was runnin' out 435 00:25:59,060 --> 00:26:00,860 # Cool down 436 00:26:00,860 --> 00:26:03,980 # Stop actin' crazy. # 437 00:26:03,980 --> 00:26:08,980 David Byrne is just one of those people that continually goes beyond. 438 00:26:09,740 --> 00:26:13,380 And reinvents himself all the time, in a similar way, I suppose, 439 00:26:13,380 --> 00:26:15,100 to Bowie, for instance. Hmm. 440 00:26:15,100 --> 00:26:16,740 You know, would do the same thing. 441 00:26:16,740 --> 00:26:18,380 # Backslidin' 442 00:26:18,380 --> 00:26:21,060 # How do you do? 443 00:26:21,060 --> 00:26:24,100 # These slippery people gonna see you through 444 00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:26,500 # What's the matter with him? He's all right 445 00:26:26,500 --> 00:26:28,620 # How do you know? The lord won't mind 446 00:26:28,620 --> 00:26:30,860 # Don't play no games He's all right 447 00:26:30,860 --> 00:26:32,940 # Love from the bottom to the top 448 00:26:32,940 --> 00:26:35,100 # Turn like a wheel He's all right 449 00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:37,380 # See for yourself The Lord won't mind 450 00:26:37,380 --> 00:26:39,620 # We're gonna move Right now 451 00:26:39,620 --> 00:26:42,980 # Turn like a wheel inside a wheel. # 452 00:26:42,980 --> 00:26:46,180 We went to see them supporting The Ramones, can you believe that, 453 00:26:46,180 --> 00:26:48,420 in Manchester 1978? Wow! 454 00:26:48,420 --> 00:26:51,700 And then they invited us on to their tour, 455 00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:54,820 their first headline tour in Britain. 456 00:26:54,820 --> 00:26:58,620 This is with Human League, and we went, "This is fantastic. 457 00:26:58,620 --> 00:27:01,380 "We get to do a half-hour slot before Talking Heads! 458 00:27:01,380 --> 00:27:03,180 "What we going to do?" 459 00:27:03,180 --> 00:27:06,100 And, as is typical for The Human League at the time, 460 00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:09,780 we were so determined to be so far out there and arty, 461 00:27:09,780 --> 00:27:12,020 we said we're going to do the first-ever support gig 462 00:27:12,020 --> 00:27:14,420 where we're not actually on stage. 463 00:27:14,420 --> 00:27:16,660 LAUGHS: Oh, no! 464 00:27:16,660 --> 00:27:18,980 I'm not even joking. Oh, no! 465 00:27:18,980 --> 00:27:21,100 A week before the tour starts, 466 00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:23,460 Talking Heads get wind of it and chuck us off the tour. 467 00:27:23,460 --> 00:27:26,420 Oh, no! Yes. We'd prepared it all and everything. 468 00:27:26,420 --> 00:27:29,420 Oh. I know, but I still love them. Yeah. 469 00:27:29,420 --> 00:27:31,740 # What's the matter with him? He's all right 470 00:27:31,740 --> 00:27:33,980 # How do you know? The lord won't mind 471 00:27:33,980 --> 00:27:36,100 # Don't play no games He's all right 472 00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:38,460 # Love from the bottom to the top 473 00:27:38,460 --> 00:27:40,620 # Turn like a wheel He's all right 474 00:27:40,620 --> 00:27:42,900 # See for yourself The Lord won't mind 475 00:27:42,900 --> 00:27:45,220 # We're gonna move Right now 476 00:27:45,220 --> 00:27:48,780 # Turn like a wheel inside a wheel 477 00:27:48,780 --> 00:27:50,780 # All right 478 00:27:50,780 --> 00:27:52,900 # The lord won't mind 479 00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:57,500 # All right, love from the bottom to the top 480 00:27:57,500 --> 00:27:59,540 # All right 481 00:27:59,540 --> 00:28:02,180 # The lord won't mind 482 00:28:02,180 --> 00:28:06,180 # Right now, turn like a wheel inside a wheel. # 483 00:28:08,180 --> 00:28:11,620 When we're talking disco, there's another White we have to talk about, 484 00:28:11,620 --> 00:28:13,220 not just Maurice White 485 00:28:13,220 --> 00:28:17,260 but, really, the Godfather of Disco, Barry White. 486 00:28:17,260 --> 00:28:19,780 Baz. Bazza. 487 00:28:19,780 --> 00:28:22,420 # Oh, girl, you know 488 00:28:23,900 --> 00:28:26,620 # Like I know 489 00:28:26,620 --> 00:28:28,060 # Uh-huh 490 00:28:28,060 --> 00:28:30,060 # What your lovin', girl 491 00:28:31,540 --> 00:28:33,900 # Has done for me 492 00:28:35,580 --> 00:28:37,620 # Like a Mona Lisa 493 00:28:39,140 --> 00:28:41,260 # Hangin' on a wall 494 00:28:42,540 --> 00:28:43,700 # Uh-huh 495 00:28:43,700 --> 00:28:45,940 # You're a lovely sight 496 00:28:45,940 --> 00:28:48,380 # Lovely sight to see 497 00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:51,740 # Mmm-hmm 498 00:28:51,740 --> 00:28:54,260 # The way you give me your sweet love 499 00:28:55,460 --> 00:28:57,540 # Any place and time 500 00:28:59,060 --> 00:29:01,740 # When you look at me I get weak in my knees 501 00:29:02,860 --> 00:29:05,140 # I'm so thankful that you're mine 502 00:29:06,780 --> 00:29:09,020 # Your sweetness 503 00:29:10,220 --> 00:29:12,820 # Is my weakness, yeah 504 00:29:14,140 --> 00:29:16,540 # Girl, your sweetness 505 00:29:18,180 --> 00:29:20,900 # Is my weakness, yeah, yeah 506 00:29:22,540 --> 00:29:24,580 # Sweetness. # 507 00:29:24,580 --> 00:29:28,740 This is my absolute favourite song from Barry White? Is it? 508 00:29:28,740 --> 00:29:33,740 It's a cover, but it's got that just unmistakable groove 509 00:29:34,060 --> 00:29:38,540 and then those strings are just...heaven! 510 00:29:38,540 --> 00:29:40,340 # They all think 511 00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:43,740 # That I'm a fool 512 00:29:45,060 --> 00:29:46,380 # Uh-huh 513 00:29:46,380 --> 00:29:48,380 # For lovin' you 514 00:29:49,540 --> 00:29:51,260 # For lovin' you this way 515 00:29:53,340 --> 00:29:55,500 # But as sure as I am. # 516 00:29:57,500 --> 00:30:01,220 And I also really love his delivery. 517 00:30:01,220 --> 00:30:03,980 He's soulful but he also... Oh, it is fantastic. 518 00:30:03,980 --> 00:30:06,100 It's very conversational. 519 00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:08,940 There's not really much of a melody to this. 520 00:30:08,940 --> 00:30:11,980 Mm-mm. But it's beautiful, right? 521 00:30:13,380 --> 00:30:16,420 # With the other boys 522 00:30:16,420 --> 00:30:17,540 # Uh-huh 523 00:30:17,540 --> 00:30:20,100 # But I'm the only one round here 524 00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:23,340 # Who's got the real McCoy 525 00:30:23,340 --> 00:30:25,260 # Ohhhh 526 00:30:25,260 --> 00:30:30,340 # Sweetness is my weakness 527 00:30:30,860 --> 00:30:33,020 # Yeah, yeah 528 00:30:33,020 --> 00:30:38,060 # Sweetness is my weakness 529 00:30:38,540 --> 00:30:41,420 # Uh-huh, uh-huh 530 00:30:41,420 --> 00:30:43,980 # Sweetness 531 00:30:43,980 --> 00:30:46,660 # My, my weakness 532 00:30:46,660 --> 00:30:48,340 # Ooh, ooh... # 533 00:30:49,740 --> 00:30:53,100 From the absolute sublime of disco 534 00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:55,220 to the totally ridiculous, 535 00:30:55,220 --> 00:30:56,500 let's talk Boney M. 536 00:30:56,500 --> 00:30:59,060 # She's crazy like a fool 537 00:31:00,380 --> 00:31:03,620 # What about it, Daddy Cool? # 538 00:31:03,620 --> 00:31:05,780 I chose Boney M because 539 00:31:05,780 --> 00:31:08,020 they were a real touchstone 540 00:31:08,020 --> 00:31:10,700 in me understanding why 541 00:31:10,700 --> 00:31:15,700 and how my band, Scissor Sisters, became loved by the British public. 542 00:31:20,020 --> 00:31:22,860 too flamboyant for the mainstream. 543 00:31:22,860 --> 00:31:25,060 And then, I had this moment - we were... 544 00:31:25,060 --> 00:31:27,740 It was one of our first trips over, 545 00:31:27,740 --> 00:31:30,740 doing promo for our record in 2004, 546 00:31:30,740 --> 00:31:35,460 and we were driving through Piccadilly Circus 547 00:31:35,460 --> 00:31:38,220 and West End and I saw, 548 00:31:38,220 --> 00:31:39,940 on a marquee, 549 00:31:39,940 --> 00:31:42,740 "Daddy Cool: The Boney M Musical", 550 00:31:42,740 --> 00:31:45,420 and I thought, "Wait a second..."! 551 00:31:45,420 --> 00:31:48,380 "..Boney M is big enough in this country 552 00:31:48,380 --> 00:31:50,700 "to have a West End musical?!" 553 00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:54,220 Oh, Boney M were absolutely e-nor-mous. 554 00:31:54,220 --> 00:31:57,180 And that made me understand, "oh!" 555 00:31:58,580 --> 00:32:01,300 # She's crazy like a fool 556 00:32:02,540 --> 00:32:04,740 # What about it, Daddy Cool? 557 00:32:06,340 --> 00:32:08,580 # I'm crazy like a fool 558 00:32:09,980 --> 00:32:12,420 # What about it, Daddy Cool? 559 00:32:13,860 --> 00:32:16,540 # Daddy, Daddy Cool 560 00:32:17,660 --> 00:32:20,100 # Daddy, Daddy Cool 561 00:32:21,540 --> 00:32:24,140 # Daddy, Daddy Cool 562 00:32:25,300 --> 00:32:28,300 # Daddy, Daddy Cool... # 563 00:32:33,460 --> 00:32:36,780 I can tell they're not American. Yes. Let me just say that. 564 00:32:36,780 --> 00:32:39,300 Yeah, yeah. I can tell that they are not American. 565 00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:42,140 They weren't learning how to dance from James Brown, let's say that. 566 00:32:42,140 --> 00:32:45,420 No, they weren't... Yeah, no. ..doing that, no, no. No. 567 00:32:45,420 --> 00:32:47,900 # She's crazy Oh, yeah, yeah 568 00:32:47,900 --> 00:32:49,140 # Oh, yeah 569 00:32:49,140 --> 00:32:51,420 # What about it, Daddy Cool? 570 00:32:52,700 --> 00:32:55,300 # I'm crazy like a fool 571 00:32:56,660 --> 00:32:59,140 # What about it, Daddy Cool? 572 00:33:00,460 --> 00:33:02,900 # Daddy, Daddy Cool 573 00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:06,980 # Daddy, Daddy Cool 574 00:33:06,980 --> 00:33:08,300 # Ohhh, see Daddy 575 00:33:08,300 --> 00:33:10,780 # Daddy, Daddy Cool 576 00:33:10,780 --> 00:33:12,180 # Yeah 577 00:33:12,180 --> 00:33:15,020 # Daddy, Daddy Cool... # 578 00:33:17,660 --> 00:33:19,220 He's like a Bez. 579 00:33:19,220 --> 00:33:21,420 You know, kind of like a... Yeah! 580 00:33:21,420 --> 00:33:23,860 He is a little bit like a Bez! He's kind of like... 581 00:33:25,460 --> 00:33:27,340 I can relate. 582 00:33:27,340 --> 00:33:31,060 I'm not really sure what he's meant to be doing but I love it. 583 00:33:31,060 --> 00:33:33,700 Yep. Totally relate. 584 00:33:33,700 --> 00:33:36,140 # She's crazy for you, Daddy 585 00:33:36,140 --> 00:33:38,900 # Oh, she believes in you 586 00:33:40,260 --> 00:33:42,180 # She loves you, Daddy 587 00:33:43,260 --> 00:33:44,620 # Woo! 588 00:33:49,500 --> 00:33:50,500 # Daddy, Daddy 589 00:33:51,940 --> 00:33:52,940 # All right... # 590 00:33:55,900 --> 00:34:00,620 Well, I can't do a playlist with Martyn Ware without choosing 591 00:34:00,620 --> 00:34:02,620 some Heaven 17, come on! 592 00:34:02,620 --> 00:34:06,180 Temptation, what... What are you going to say about Temptation? 593 00:34:06,180 --> 00:34:09,140 This was really our big breakthrough record. 594 00:34:09,140 --> 00:34:11,300 And to this day... 595 00:34:12,700 --> 00:34:15,300 I would argue that there is not an audience 596 00:34:15,300 --> 00:34:18,340 that we could play to that won't get into this. 597 00:34:18,340 --> 00:34:21,860 # That sudden feeling 598 00:34:21,860 --> 00:34:25,220 # Carved by another's hand, oh 599 00:34:26,420 --> 00:34:30,140 # But it's too late to hesitate 600 00:34:30,140 --> 00:34:32,900 # We can't keep on living like this 601 00:34:34,980 --> 00:34:37,220 # Leave no track 602 00:34:38,740 --> 00:34:41,220 # Don't look back 603 00:34:41,220 --> 00:34:44,140 # All I desire Temptation 604 00:34:44,140 --> 00:34:46,540 # Keep climbing higher and higher 605 00:34:46,540 --> 00:34:48,380 # Temptation 606 00:34:48,380 --> 00:34:50,340 # Adorable creatures 607 00:34:50,340 --> 00:34:51,900 # Temptation 608 00:34:51,900 --> 00:34:54,220 # With unacceptable features 609 00:34:54,220 --> 00:34:55,940 # Temptation 610 00:34:55,940 --> 00:34:57,980 # Trouble is coming 611 00:34:57,980 --> 00:34:59,220 # Temptation 612 00:34:59,220 --> 00:35:01,620 # It's just the high cost of loving 613 00:35:01,620 --> 00:35:03,260 # Temptation 614 00:35:03,260 --> 00:35:05,300 # You can take it or leave it 615 00:35:05,300 --> 00:35:06,980 # Temptation 616 00:35:06,980 --> 00:35:10,340 # But you'd better believe it 617 00:35:15,220 --> 00:35:18,740 # You've got to make me an offer 618 00:35:18,740 --> 00:35:21,340 # That cannot be ignored 619 00:35:22,980 --> 00:35:25,300 # So let's head for home now... # 620 00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:28,060 Everybody bouncing, we performed it last week. 621 00:35:28,060 --> 00:35:30,300 25,000 people bouncing. 622 00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:32,700 Yeah. And, literally, we have done it in a prison. 623 00:35:32,700 --> 00:35:34,420 We've done it in an old people's home, 624 00:35:34,420 --> 00:35:36,100 we've done it in a nursery, 625 00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:38,540 we've done it in every demographic, 626 00:35:38,540 --> 00:35:40,660 we've done it in different parts of the world. 627 00:35:40,660 --> 00:35:43,620 And it's the one track, for some reason, that people vibe on. 628 00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:45,940 And it's... It's a mystery. 629 00:35:45,940 --> 00:35:47,460 It's amazing. Yeah. 630 00:35:47,460 --> 00:35:48,780 # Temptation 631 00:35:48,780 --> 00:35:50,980 # Keep climbing higher and higher 632 00:35:50,980 --> 00:35:52,620 # Temptation 633 00:35:52,620 --> 00:35:54,940 # You can take it or leave it 634 00:35:54,940 --> 00:35:56,340 # Temptation 635 00:35:56,340 --> 00:35:59,620 # But you'd better believe it... # 636 00:36:01,820 --> 00:36:04,060 There you are! There I am! 637 00:36:04,060 --> 00:36:05,900 Looking very slim. 638 00:36:05,900 --> 00:36:07,860 Those were the days. 639 00:36:08,820 --> 00:36:10,580 # Step by step 640 00:36:10,580 --> 00:36:12,620 # And day by day 641 00:36:12,620 --> 00:36:14,340 # Every second counts 642 00:36:14,340 --> 00:36:16,180 # I can't break away 643 00:36:16,180 --> 00:36:18,900 # Keep us from temptation 644 00:36:19,900 --> 00:36:27,100 # Keep us from temptation 645 00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:30,980 # Lead us not into temptation, ahhh 646 00:36:30,980 --> 00:36:32,860 # Trying to find it 647 00:36:32,860 --> 00:36:34,260 # Temptation 648 00:36:34,260 --> 00:36:36,780 # You've got to get up behind it 649 00:36:36,780 --> 00:36:38,340 # Temptation 650 00:36:38,340 --> 00:36:40,260 # Put your dime in the hot slot 651 00:36:40,260 --> 00:36:42,100 # Temptation... # 652 00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:45,980 We knew it was a hit. Absolutely 100%. 653 00:36:45,980 --> 00:36:48,260 Couldn't manufacture it fast enough. Oh, wow. 654 00:36:48,260 --> 00:36:51,820 It was selling, like, 20,000 a day. Wow, brilliant, God. 655 00:36:51,820 --> 00:36:53,820 It's incredible, isn't it? Yeah. 656 00:36:53,820 --> 00:36:58,180 After literally, what, four years of trying to get a big hit. 657 00:36:58,180 --> 00:37:01,380 # Shakedown Temptation 658 00:37:01,380 --> 00:37:09,380 # Temptation 659 00:37:09,380 --> 00:37:10,620 # Temptation... # 660 00:37:10,620 --> 00:37:13,020 Like I Feel Love, 661 00:37:13,020 --> 00:37:15,700 I think there is another song that sort of 662 00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:19,500 sits at the top of, you know, dance floor classics. 663 00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:22,300 Yeah. And that very beginning... 664 00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:24,420 Do-do... Di-dil-liddle-liddle-doo. ..doom. 665 00:37:24,420 --> 00:37:27,380 OPENING BEAT 666 00:37:33,380 --> 00:37:36,060 This song, very much like I Feel Love, 667 00:37:36,060 --> 00:37:38,220 you put it on and it still sounds fresh. Mm. 668 00:37:38,220 --> 00:37:40,820 It's the kind of song that 669 00:37:40,820 --> 00:37:42,900 everyone emulates. Yeah. 670 00:37:42,900 --> 00:37:46,300 And it was, I think, kind of accidental, 671 00:37:46,300 --> 00:37:49,140 they were working on a song called The Beach, if I'm not mistaken. 672 00:37:49,140 --> 00:37:51,420 Is that right? OK. And going through the presets 673 00:37:51,420 --> 00:37:54,500 of the keyboards and found that sort of opening link, 674 00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:57,940 and that's how Blue Monday came around. 675 00:37:57,940 --> 00:38:01,460 It's nice to see somebody performing live on Top Of The Pops. Yeah. 676 00:38:01,460 --> 00:38:04,180 You can tell it's live because everybody's really focusing 677 00:38:04,180 --> 00:38:07,700 on getting it right. Yeah. They're all looking at the keyboard! 678 00:38:13,740 --> 00:38:17,020 # How does it feel 679 00:38:17,020 --> 00:38:19,700 # To treat me like you do 680 00:38:20,780 --> 00:38:24,340 # When you've laid your hands upon me 681 00:38:24,340 --> 00:38:27,180 # And told me who you are 682 00:38:28,540 --> 00:38:31,860 # I thought I was mistaken 683 00:38:31,860 --> 00:38:34,340 # And I thought I heard your speak 684 00:38:35,340 --> 00:38:39,180 # Tell me how do I feel 685 00:38:39,180 --> 00:38:41,820 # Tell me now how do I feel 686 00:38:43,260 --> 00:38:46,900 # Those who came before me 687 00:38:46,900 --> 00:38:50,220 # Lived through their vocations 688 00:38:50,220 --> 00:38:53,780 # From the past until completion 689 00:38:53,780 --> 00:38:56,660 # We'll turn away no more 690 00:38:58,100 --> 00:39:01,220 # And still I find it so hard 691 00:39:01,220 --> 00:39:04,900 # To say what I need to say 692 00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:08,620 # But I'm quite sure that you'll tell me 693 00:39:08,620 --> 00:39:11,020 # Just how I should feel today 694 00:39:11,020 --> 00:39:12,900 # Ooh... # 695 00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:17,900 This song, even though it's associated with synthpop 696 00:39:17,900 --> 00:39:21,220 and what became house music and dance music, 697 00:39:21,220 --> 00:39:22,660 it's a disco song. 698 00:39:22,660 --> 00:39:25,300 It's a disco song but it's also got some rock elements in it, 699 00:39:25,300 --> 00:39:28,500 like the kind of Duane Eddy-ish type guitar. Yeah, yeah! 700 00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:33,020 Yeah. And so it's kind of a unique hybrid, really. 701 00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:42,980 I personally think what makes it really sing 702 00:39:42,980 --> 00:39:44,860 is Hooky's bass. 703 00:39:44,860 --> 00:39:46,420 It puts you on to another level, 704 00:39:46,420 --> 00:39:48,700 otherwise it would have been fairly generic, actually. 705 00:39:48,700 --> 00:39:51,220 Yeah, yeah. It gives it that warmth. 706 00:39:51,220 --> 00:39:53,940 # I see a ship in the harbour 707 00:39:55,060 --> 00:39:57,780 # I can and shall obey 708 00:39:57,780 --> 00:40:02,140 # But if it wasn't for your misfortune 709 00:40:02,140 --> 00:40:04,540 # I'd be a heavenly person today 710 00:40:05,580 --> 00:40:08,380 # And I thought I was mistaken 711 00:40:09,380 --> 00:40:13,180 # I thought I heard you speak 712 00:40:13,180 --> 00:40:16,500 # Tell me how should I feel 713 00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:19,620 # Tell me now how should I feel 714 00:40:20,820 --> 00:40:23,380 # Now I stand here waiting... # 715 00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:35,380 We can't sit together and do this without talking about, 716 00:40:35,380 --> 00:40:39,740 and featuring, one of the greatest female artists of all time, 717 00:40:39,740 --> 00:40:42,700 one of the greatest artists of rock and roll history, 718 00:40:42,700 --> 00:40:46,260 who I think you are instrumental 719 00:40:46,260 --> 00:40:48,540 in her comeback - Tina Turner. 720 00:40:48,540 --> 00:40:50,620 Oh, thank you, that's very kind. Well, you are! 721 00:40:50,620 --> 00:40:52,340 Well...yeah, I pretty much was. 722 00:40:52,340 --> 00:40:55,740 I mean, it was the biggest selling 12 inch record in history. Wow! 723 00:40:55,740 --> 00:40:57,780 When Let's Stay Together came out. 724 00:40:57,780 --> 00:41:00,380 And I remember Tina coming into the studio and going, 725 00:41:00,380 --> 00:41:02,020 "Where's the band?" 726 00:41:02,020 --> 00:41:03,500 Amazing. 727 00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:06,140 And pointing at the giant fridge 728 00:41:06,140 --> 00:41:09,300 that was the Fairlight computer, 729 00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:10,940 going, "It's in there." 730 00:41:10,940 --> 00:41:13,180 And she went, "wo-o-ow!" 731 00:41:13,180 --> 00:41:16,020 One of her songs, sort of from this era, 732 00:41:16,020 --> 00:41:21,060 that I often make the sort of final song of a set... Yeah. 733 00:41:21,580 --> 00:41:26,260 ..particularly if I'm playing in a gay bar, or a gay nightclub, 734 00:41:26,260 --> 00:41:28,100 put on Better Be Good To Me. 735 00:41:30,180 --> 00:41:33,060 # A prisoner of your love 736 00:41:33,060 --> 00:41:35,700 # Entangled in your web 737 00:41:36,900 --> 00:41:41,420 # Hot whispers in the night 738 00:41:41,420 --> 00:41:44,460 # I'm captured by your spell 739 00:41:44,460 --> 00:41:45,460 # Captured 740 00:41:47,900 --> 00:41:51,940 # Oh, yes, I'm touched by this show of emotion 741 00:41:51,940 --> 00:41:56,020 # Should I be fractured by your lack of devotion? 742 00:41:56,020 --> 00:41:57,060 # Should I? 743 00:42:00,420 --> 00:42:01,580 # Should I? 744 00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:04,780 # Oh, you better be good to me 745 00:42:07,340 --> 00:42:09,220 # That's how it's gotta be now 746 00:42:11,300 --> 00:42:15,060 # Cos I don't have no use For what you loosely call the truth 747 00:42:15,060 --> 00:42:17,060 # And you better be good to me 748 00:42:25,020 --> 00:42:27,460 # I think it's also right 749 00:42:29,140 --> 00:42:32,140 # That we don't need to fight 750 00:42:32,140 --> 00:42:35,220 # We stand face to face 751 00:42:37,420 --> 00:42:39,500 # And you present your case 752 00:42:39,500 --> 00:42:42,740 # Yes, I know You keep telling me that you love me 753 00:42:44,940 --> 00:42:47,260 # And I really do want to believe 754 00:42:47,260 --> 00:42:50,260 # But did you think I'd just accept you 755 00:42:50,260 --> 00:42:52,100 # In blind faith? 756 00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:55,220 # Oh, sure, babe, Anything to please you 757 00:42:55,220 --> 00:42:57,620 # But you better be good to me 758 00:42:58,940 --> 00:43:01,020 # That's how it's gotta be now 759 00:43:02,860 --> 00:43:05,140 # Cos I don't have the time 760 00:43:05,140 --> 00:43:06,860 # For your over-loaded lines 761 00:43:06,860 --> 00:43:09,020 # And you better be good to me... # 762 00:43:09,020 --> 00:43:12,220 I love everything about this, I love her look, 763 00:43:12,220 --> 00:43:14,820 the hair at that time, the way she moves, 764 00:43:14,820 --> 00:43:18,100 and there's something, I think, really important 765 00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:21,340 that was happening at this time that she was doing, 766 00:43:21,340 --> 00:43:25,700 which was showing and exemplifying that life isn't over at 40. 767 00:43:25,700 --> 00:43:27,060 Yeah, precisely. 768 00:43:27,060 --> 00:43:30,500 And that you can be a killer performer, 769 00:43:30,500 --> 00:43:32,540 a sexy woman, 770 00:43:32,540 --> 00:43:36,220 full of power and be in your 40s, 771 00:43:36,220 --> 00:43:38,180 doin' that thing. 772 00:43:38,180 --> 00:43:41,220 Her body language is completely... 773 00:43:41,220 --> 00:43:43,660 It's not sexual dominance, it's sexual confidence. 774 00:43:43,660 --> 00:43:46,020 Absolutely. That's what it is. 775 00:43:46,020 --> 00:43:48,300 She knows she's hot. Yeah. 776 00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:50,500 She's talented, she's hot. 777 00:43:50,500 --> 00:43:53,220 And she actually looks like she's enjoying it. 778 00:43:53,220 --> 00:43:56,460 # What you call the truth And I don't have the time... # 779 00:43:56,460 --> 00:44:00,500 This is someone who absolutely, completely understands their power. 780 00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:02,460 Yes. Well said. 781 00:44:02,460 --> 00:44:04,180 # Be good to me 782 00:44:07,220 --> 00:44:08,660 # Be good... # 783 00:44:10,060 --> 00:44:12,940 My mate Vince... Oh. Vince Clarke. Mm-hmm. 784 00:44:12,940 --> 00:44:16,020 I'm pretty sure I could class him in the genius category. 785 00:44:16,020 --> 00:44:18,740 I would say so. One thing he said to me - 786 00:44:18,740 --> 00:44:22,020 this has stuck with me since then, I always tell my students this - 787 00:44:22,020 --> 00:44:24,660 he said, "I am my own biggest fan." 788 00:44:24,660 --> 00:44:27,780 Oh! A-ha-ha! He said, "I think everything I do is fantastic. 789 00:44:27,780 --> 00:44:30,500 "I can't understand why it doesn't all go to number one." 790 00:44:30,500 --> 00:44:32,220 And I think that kind of innate 791 00:44:32,220 --> 00:44:35,380 but quiet confidence is a very attractive thing. 792 00:44:35,380 --> 00:44:38,260 # I try to discover 793 00:44:39,420 --> 00:44:43,980 # A little something to make me sweeter 794 00:44:43,980 --> 00:44:46,220 # Oh baby refrain 795 00:44:48,100 --> 00:44:51,700 # From breaking my heart 796 00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:55,980 # I'm so in love with you 797 00:44:55,980 --> 00:44:59,500 # I'll be forever blue 798 00:45:01,020 --> 00:45:04,820 # That you gimme no reason Why you're making me work so hard 799 00:45:06,140 --> 00:45:10,300 # That you gimme no That you gimme no 800 00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:12,660 # Soul 801 00:45:12,660 --> 00:45:15,860 # I hear you calling 802 00:45:16,940 --> 00:45:20,180 # Oh baby please 803 00:45:21,380 --> 00:45:24,660 # Give a little respect 804 00:45:24,660 --> 00:45:28,500 # To me 805 00:45:33,940 --> 00:45:36,140 # And if I should falter 806 00:45:37,780 --> 00:45:41,700 # Would you open you arms out to me 807 00:45:41,700 --> 00:45:45,060 # We can make love not war 808 00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:49,340 # And live at peace with our hearts 809 00:45:50,260 --> 00:45:54,460 # I'm so in love with you 810 00:45:54,460 --> 00:45:57,940 # I'll be forever blue 811 00:45:59,300 --> 00:46:01,380 # What religion or reason 812 00:46:01,380 --> 00:46:04,500 # Could drive a man to forsake his lover 813 00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:08,580 # Don't you tell me no Don't you tell me no 814 00:46:08,580 --> 00:46:10,940 # Soul 815 00:46:10,940 --> 00:46:14,060 # I hear you calling 816 00:46:15,180 --> 00:46:18,500 # Oh baby please 817 00:46:20,140 --> 00:46:23,180 # Give a little respect 818 00:46:23,180 --> 00:46:27,300 # To me 819 00:46:34,180 --> 00:46:36,340 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 820 00:46:39,900 --> 00:46:43,100 # I'm so in love with you... # 821 00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:47,260 They have an enviable track record - they have so many hits, 822 00:46:47,260 --> 00:46:49,220 so many classic songs, 823 00:46:49,220 --> 00:46:52,140 and Andy, very similar to Donna Summer... Yeah. 824 00:46:52,140 --> 00:46:54,660 ..has the voice of an angel. Oh, he really does. 825 00:46:54,660 --> 00:46:58,940 He sounds like he's descending from a cloud on high. Yes, yes. 826 00:46:58,940 --> 00:47:01,540 And do you know how Andy got the job? 827 00:47:01,540 --> 00:47:04,660 Through an ad in the NME? Yeah, that's right! Yes! 828 00:47:04,660 --> 00:47:06,700 He just put an ad in the NME. Brilliant. 829 00:47:06,700 --> 00:47:09,260 And actually I think he got the job because he sounded a bit like 830 00:47:09,260 --> 00:47:12,700 Alison Moyet. Oh! OK, sure, yeah, yeah. If you think about it! 831 00:47:12,700 --> 00:47:15,540 # To me 832 00:47:15,540 --> 00:47:17,780 # Soul 833 00:47:17,780 --> 00:47:21,620 # I hear you calling 834 00:47:21,620 --> 00:47:26,660 # Oh baby please 835 00:47:26,700 --> 00:47:29,820 # Give a little respect 836 00:47:29,820 --> 00:47:34,020 # To me... # 837 00:47:34,020 --> 00:47:37,420 Cameo. They kind of started out as a funk group, really. 838 00:47:37,420 --> 00:47:40,100 Yeah, funk and disco. Funk and disco. 839 00:47:40,100 --> 00:47:43,700 And for lovers of codpieces, there is no better, is there? 840 00:47:43,700 --> 00:47:46,620 There's no, there's no... Yeah. It's this and Shakespeare. 841 00:47:46,620 --> 00:47:49,220 That's, like, it. That's, that's basically it. 842 00:47:49,220 --> 00:47:52,780 # Your pretty ladies around the world 843 00:47:52,780 --> 00:47:54,740 # Got a weird thing to show you 844 00:47:54,740 --> 00:47:56,940 # So tell all the boys and girls 845 00:47:56,940 --> 00:48:00,980 # Tell your brother, your sister and your mamma too 846 00:48:00,980 --> 00:48:03,060 # Cos we're about to go down 847 00:48:03,060 --> 00:48:05,300 # And you know just what to do 848 00:48:05,300 --> 00:48:09,420 # Wave your hands in the air like you don't care 849 00:48:09,420 --> 00:48:13,420 # Glide by the people as they start to look and stare 850 00:48:13,420 --> 00:48:16,020 # Do your dance, do your dance 851 00:48:16,020 --> 00:48:18,820 # Do your dance quick mamma 852 00:48:18,820 --> 00:48:21,620 # Come on baby tell me what's the word 853 00:48:21,620 --> 00:48:23,700 # Word up 854 00:48:23,700 --> 00:48:26,420 # Everybody say 855 00:48:26,420 --> 00:48:28,900 # When you hear the call you've got to get it under way 856 00:48:29,980 --> 00:48:32,220 # Word up 857 00:48:32,220 --> 00:48:34,540 # It's the code word 858 00:48:34,540 --> 00:48:38,340 # No matter where you say it you know that you'll be heard 859 00:48:38,340 --> 00:48:42,220 # Now all you sucker DJs who think you're fly 860 00:48:42,220 --> 00:48:46,500 # There's got to be a reason and we know the reason why 861 00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:50,700 # You try to put on those airs and act real cool 862 00:48:50,700 --> 00:48:54,740 # But you got to realise that you're acting like fools 863 00:48:54,740 --> 00:48:56,780 # If there's music we can use it 864 00:48:56,780 --> 00:48:59,060 # You're free to dance 865 00:48:59,060 --> 00:49:03,140 # We don't have the time for psychological romance 866 00:49:03,140 --> 00:49:05,380 # No romance, no romance 867 00:49:05,380 --> 00:49:08,060 # No romance for me mamma 868 00:49:08,060 --> 00:49:11,100 # Come on baby tell me what's the word 869 00:49:11,100 --> 00:49:13,980 # Word up... # 870 00:49:13,980 --> 00:49:17,500 This is one of the funkiest songs of all time, I think. Yeah. I think so. 871 00:49:17,500 --> 00:49:19,620 And the choreography... 872 00:49:19,620 --> 00:49:22,460 You can kind of see the sort of thread 873 00:49:22,460 --> 00:49:26,660 between The Temptations, Earth, Wind and Fire and this. 874 00:49:26,660 --> 00:49:29,820 Which is, like, kind of stripped down, 875 00:49:29,820 --> 00:49:32,220 but still r-r-r-eally out there. 876 00:49:38,820 --> 00:49:43,420 Oh! Oh, yes! I like this choreography a lot! I do. Yes! 877 00:49:43,420 --> 00:49:45,980 # Dial L for love... # 878 00:49:45,980 --> 00:49:49,260 MARTYN LAUGHS: That is some good stuff. 879 00:49:54,700 --> 00:49:58,340 # Ahhhh 880 00:50:00,740 --> 00:50:02,500 # Hey 881 00:50:05,300 --> 00:50:08,620 W...O-R-D...up. 882 00:50:08,620 --> 00:50:10,060 Word up. 883 00:50:10,060 --> 00:50:12,180 # W-O-R-D 884 00:50:12,180 --> 00:50:13,500 # Up! 885 00:50:13,500 --> 00:50:16,100 # W-O-R-D 886 00:50:16,100 --> 00:50:18,180 # Up... # 887 00:50:18,180 --> 00:50:21,460 Grace Jones. One of the greatest women of all time, 888 00:50:21,460 --> 00:50:25,260 someone who I think it's safe to say is a goddess. Yeah. 889 00:50:25,260 --> 00:50:27,060 I just love... 890 00:50:27,060 --> 00:50:30,060 Slave To The Rhythm is one of my favourite tracks. Amazing. 891 00:50:30,060 --> 00:50:32,220 When it first came out, as a producer - 892 00:50:32,220 --> 00:50:34,340 and I'd just had some big successes - 893 00:50:34,340 --> 00:50:36,220 it made me want to give up. 894 00:50:36,220 --> 00:50:39,340 I said, "I am never going to make a record that sounds as good as this." 895 00:50:39,340 --> 00:50:40,700 Wow. 896 00:50:40,700 --> 00:50:42,500 # Work all day 897 00:50:42,500 --> 00:50:44,580 # As men who know 898 00:50:44,580 --> 00:50:47,620 # The wheels must turn 899 00:50:47,620 --> 00:50:49,980 # to keep the flow 900 00:50:49,980 --> 00:50:52,260 # You build on up 901 00:50:52,260 --> 00:50:55,260 # Don't break the chain 902 00:50:55,260 --> 00:50:57,060 # Sparks will fly 903 00:50:57,060 --> 00:50:59,820 # When the whistle blows 904 00:51:01,340 --> 00:51:04,260 # Never stop the action 905 00:51:04,260 --> 00:51:07,420 # You better keep it up, keep it up 906 00:51:09,860 --> 00:51:11,380 # I said 907 00:51:11,380 --> 00:51:14,180 # Never stop the action 908 00:51:14,180 --> 00:51:16,940 # You better keep it up, keep it up 909 00:51:19,900 --> 00:51:24,900 # Work to the rhythm 910 00:51:24,900 --> 00:51:28,980 # Live to the rhythm 911 00:51:29,940 --> 00:51:34,500 # Love to the rhythm. 912 00:51:34,500 --> 00:51:39,580 # Slave to the rhythm... # 913 00:51:41,420 --> 00:51:46,380 She's someone who has remained completely true to herself. 914 00:51:46,380 --> 00:51:48,940 Totally, totally unique. 915 00:51:48,940 --> 00:51:53,340 There is not someone who I think even touches her. 916 00:51:53,340 --> 00:51:56,260 People have tried but they can't... 917 00:51:56,260 --> 00:51:59,300 They can never be as cool as Grace - ever. 918 00:51:59,300 --> 00:52:02,500 Well, I suppose, Lady Gaga is about as close as you're going to get. 919 00:52:02,500 --> 00:52:06,380 But she's not cool like Grace is. No, that's true. 920 00:52:06,380 --> 00:52:08,460 # The fire burns 921 00:52:08,460 --> 00:52:11,340 # Hearts beat strong 922 00:52:11,340 --> 00:52:13,860 # Sing out loud 923 00:52:13,860 --> 00:52:15,980 # The chain gang song... # 924 00:52:15,980 --> 00:52:19,700 She plays with that same sort of, like, scary quality 925 00:52:19,700 --> 00:52:22,700 but she's so totally alluring, 926 00:52:22,700 --> 00:52:25,460 and seems like it all comes from her - 927 00:52:25,460 --> 00:52:27,580 it's not curated, it's not... No. 928 00:52:27,580 --> 00:52:30,900 .."let me get a stylist to do this"... Yeah, yeah, yeah. 929 00:52:30,900 --> 00:52:34,100 It is 100% self-sourced, 930 00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:35,780 it starts and ends with her. 931 00:52:35,780 --> 00:52:40,460 # Work to the rhythm 932 00:52:40,460 --> 00:52:45,540 # We live to the rhythm 933 00:52:45,820 --> 00:52:50,100 # Love to the rhythm 934 00:52:51,020 --> 00:52:54,940 # Slave to the rhythm 935 00:52:57,180 --> 00:52:59,380 # Breathe 936 00:52:59,380 --> 00:53:01,140 # To the rhythm... # 937 00:53:02,180 --> 00:53:06,300 And this was a few years ago, she's in her 60s performing. 938 00:53:06,300 --> 00:53:08,780 Looking amazing. 939 00:53:08,780 --> 00:53:11,540 Still every ounce and inch 940 00:53:11,540 --> 00:53:13,780 the artist she ever was. 941 00:53:13,780 --> 00:53:16,900 Still...showing the children how it's done. 942 00:53:16,900 --> 00:53:19,500 # Hey Don't you cry... # 943 00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:21,980 She is the artist, the number one artist whose closet 944 00:53:21,980 --> 00:53:25,460 I'd love to just... Yeah, yeah. ..raid. Her and Sylvester. 945 00:53:25,460 --> 00:53:28,580 Yeah, but she could probably go into some kind of haberdashery store 946 00:53:28,580 --> 00:53:31,260 and just make something that looked amazing, you know. 947 00:53:31,260 --> 00:53:35,780 She could go into IKEA and put some furniture on her head! Yeah! 948 00:53:35,780 --> 00:53:39,100 # We work to the rhythm 949 00:53:40,460 --> 00:53:44,100 # We love to the rhythm 950 00:53:45,340 --> 00:53:49,820 # Slave to the rhythm 951 00:53:49,820 --> 00:53:53,500 # Love 952 00:53:53,500 --> 00:53:55,060 # To the rhythm 953 00:53:57,260 --> 00:54:00,500 # And now, ladies and gentlemen 954 00:54:00,500 --> 00:54:03,260 # Here's... 955 00:54:03,260 --> 00:54:05,220 # Grace 956 00:54:06,500 --> 00:54:11,460 # To the rhythm 957 00:54:11,460 --> 00:54:13,180 # To the rhythm. # 958 00:54:13,180 --> 00:54:15,780 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 959 00:54:15,780 --> 00:54:20,060 We can't leave this subject without referring to the importance 960 00:54:20,060 --> 00:54:23,220 of the Jacksons. Oh, yes. 961 00:54:23,220 --> 00:54:25,340 And Michael Jackson. Absolutely. 962 00:54:25,340 --> 00:54:28,020 The Jacksons were really, really 963 00:54:28,020 --> 00:54:31,340 instrumental in...being a 964 00:54:31,340 --> 00:54:36,340 musical phenomenon for young black people. Yeah, yeah. 965 00:54:36,340 --> 00:54:41,340 And representing young black people seeing themselves on TV - 966 00:54:41,460 --> 00:54:45,980 they had a variety show. Yeah. Cartoons! A cartoon, that's right. 967 00:54:45,980 --> 00:54:50,980 And in 1979, they released Blame It On The Boogie. 968 00:54:50,980 --> 00:54:52,940 # My baby's always dancin' 969 00:54:52,940 --> 00:54:54,940 # And it wouldn't be a bad thing 970 00:54:54,940 --> 00:54:57,020 # But I don't get no lovin' 971 00:54:57,020 --> 00:54:58,940 # And that's no lie 972 00:54:58,940 --> 00:55:00,980 # We spent the night in Frisco 973 00:55:00,980 --> 00:55:02,860 # At every kind of disco 974 00:55:02,860 --> 00:55:06,180 # From that night I kissed our love goodbye 975 00:55:06,180 --> 00:55:08,340 # Don't blame it on the sunshine 976 00:55:08,340 --> 00:55:10,380 # Don't blame it on the moonlight 977 00:55:10,380 --> 00:55:12,340 # Don't blame it on the good times 978 00:55:12,340 --> 00:55:14,140 # Blame it on the boogie 979 00:55:14,140 --> 00:55:16,180 # Don't blame it on sunshine 980 00:55:16,180 --> 00:55:18,060 # Don't blame it on moonlight 981 00:55:18,060 --> 00:55:20,300 # Don't blame it on the good times 982 00:55:20,300 --> 00:55:22,580 # Blame it on the boogie 983 00:55:22,580 --> 00:55:24,420 # This magic music grooves me 984 00:55:24,420 --> 00:55:26,540 # That dirty rhythm moves me 985 00:55:26,540 --> 00:55:30,380 # The devil's gotten to me through this dance 986 00:55:30,380 --> 00:55:32,420 # I'm full of funky fever 987 00:55:32,420 --> 00:55:34,500 # A fire burns inside me 988 00:55:34,500 --> 00:55:37,620 # Boogie's got me in a super trance 989 00:55:37,620 --> 00:55:39,740 # Don't blame it on the sunshine 990 00:55:39,740 --> 00:55:41,740 # Don't blame it on the moonlight 991 00:55:41,740 --> 00:55:43,700 # Don't blame it on the good times 992 00:55:43,700 --> 00:55:46,380 # Blame it on the boogie 993 00:55:46,380 --> 00:55:48,020 # Sunshine 994 00:55:48,020 --> 00:55:50,220 # Moonlight 995 00:55:50,220 --> 00:55:51,700 # Good times 996 00:55:51,700 --> 00:55:53,380 # Blame it on the boogie 997 00:55:53,380 --> 00:55:54,420 # Woo! 998 00:55:54,420 --> 00:55:56,260 # I just can't, I just can't 999 00:55:56,260 --> 00:55:58,140 # I just can't control my feet 1000 00:55:58,140 --> 00:56:00,180 # I just can't, I just can't 1001 00:56:00,180 --> 00:56:01,820 # I just can't control my feet 1002 00:56:01,820 --> 00:56:03,660 # I just can't, I just can't 1003 00:56:03,660 --> 00:56:05,740 # I just can't control my feet 1004 00:56:05,740 --> 00:56:07,700 # I just can't, I just can't 1005 00:56:07,700 --> 00:56:09,980 # I just can't control my feet 1006 00:56:09,980 --> 00:56:10,980 # Sunshine 1007 00:56:10,980 --> 00:56:12,820 # Don't blame it on the moonlight 1008 00:56:12,820 --> 00:56:15,220 # Don't blame it on the good times 1009 00:56:15,220 --> 00:56:17,700 # Blame it on the boogie... # 1010 00:56:17,700 --> 00:56:20,700 The way he moved was just so compelling, 1011 00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:22,820 you can't take your eyes off of him. 1012 00:56:22,820 --> 00:56:26,220 He's just... From five years old. Yeah. Obviously. 1013 00:56:26,220 --> 00:56:29,540 And think about how long they've been doing this stuff. Yeah, yeah. 1014 00:56:29,540 --> 00:56:31,820 # Woo! 1015 00:56:31,820 --> 00:56:33,540 # Put your hands together 1016 00:56:33,540 --> 00:56:36,780 # Put them up high, put them up high 1017 00:56:36,780 --> 00:56:38,980 # Yeah 1018 00:56:38,980 --> 00:56:42,340 # So they can see me 1019 00:56:42,340 --> 00:56:45,780 AUDIENCE CLAPPING ALONG 1020 00:56:47,180 --> 00:56:48,980 # You know what? 1021 00:56:48,980 --> 00:56:52,860 # I just can't control my feet 1022 00:56:52,860 --> 00:56:55,780 # My feet, they just keep on moving 1023 00:56:55,780 --> 00:56:57,020 # Woo! 1024 00:56:57,020 --> 00:57:00,700 # I just can't control my feet 1025 00:57:00,700 --> 00:57:03,660 # My feet, they just keep moving 1026 00:57:05,420 --> 00:57:07,860 GIRLS SCREAMING 1027 00:57:09,060 --> 00:57:10,780 # Keep on moving 1028 00:57:10,780 --> 00:57:12,900 # Woo! 1029 00:57:12,900 --> 00:57:16,820 # I just can't control my feet 1030 00:57:16,820 --> 00:57:20,460 # My feet, they just keep moving... # 1031 00:57:20,460 --> 00:57:23,900 One of the greatest live performers of all time. 1032 00:57:23,900 --> 00:57:25,420 Absolutely. 1033 00:57:25,420 --> 00:57:29,220 And you can see the beginnings of it, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. 1034 00:57:29,220 --> 00:57:32,980 Of that fanaticism around Michael. 1035 00:57:32,980 --> 00:57:36,500 I mean, you see him performing years later and people are... 1036 00:57:36,500 --> 00:57:38,780 ..losing their minds! Yeah, yeah. 1037 00:57:38,780 --> 00:57:42,700 Crying, fainting! That's power. 1038 00:57:42,700 --> 00:57:45,180 Yeah, he's a proper star. That's power. 1039 00:57:45,180 --> 00:57:47,820 Yeah, the birth of a hyperstar. Yeah. 1040 00:57:47,820 --> 00:57:49,700 Yeah, definitely. 1041 00:57:49,700 --> 00:57:51,740 GIRLS SCREAMING 1042 00:57:51,740 --> 00:57:54,940 CHEERING 1043 00:57:59,060 --> 00:58:02,900 Well, this was fun! And I think we got some great artists in tonight. 1044 00:58:02,900 --> 00:58:04,260 Yeah, not enough, though. 1045 00:58:04,260 --> 00:58:07,340 There's so many other great artists, but we can't play them all. 1046 00:58:07,340 --> 00:58:09,060 No, no. We don't have enough time. No. 1047 00:58:09,060 --> 00:58:12,900 But, anyway, we should... We're on a mission to bring this stuff back. 1048 00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:15,900 And new artists should be doing stuff like this, too. Definitely. 1049 00:58:15,900 --> 00:58:17,940 More and more of them. We're going to do it, right? 1050 00:58:17,940 --> 00:58:20,300 We're going to do it. OK. All right. Well done! Yes? 1051 00:58:20,300 --> 00:58:22,740 Don't leave me hanging! 1052 00:58:22,740 --> 00:58:27,020 MUSIC: Disco Inferno by The Trammps