1 00:00:02,760 --> 00:00:05,559 Coming up today, what made rising star Andy Millman 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,756 punch a defenceless Down's syndrome child 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,958 and his elderly, wheelchair-bound mother in the face? 4 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:12,633 Denise Robertson will be here to speculate. 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,758 If you've got your anonymity and you make a fool of yourself in a restaurant, 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,309 people say, "There was a guy in here, oh, you should have seen it." 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,995 Now they'd go, "God, Andy Millman off When The Whistle Blows was in here, 8 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:26,392 "he made a complete prat of himself." And that gets into folklore. 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,836 Excuse me, I understand you have a problem with me bringing my son into a restaurant? 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,558 - If he's like that, yes. - Andy... 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,439 - What do you mean, like that? - Well, why should we be burdened? 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,558 I mean, episode 3 is really all about that. 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,278 I hope you have a wonderful evening, 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,476 and that you realise you're a horrible little man. 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,233 Ooh. No, I didn't realise it. 16 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,597 The scene that starts it all with the guy with Down's syndrome, 17 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,674 and it's sort of an honest mistake, but because he's famous, 18 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,276 anything he does now gets in the paper and exaggerated. 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,556 "Millman had been glugging red wine 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,349 "and let off a tirade of abuse at the innocent child and his stunned mother, 21 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,033 "who he claimed was as mad as her son." 22 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,190 I didn't say that. 23 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,477 I don't think it was intended to sort of suggest, 24 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:12,634 "Oh, woe is the celebrity who must struggle through press intrusion." 25 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,271 It was more the idea again that it's funnier for Andy now that he's famous 26 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,115 because, as you say, people are monitoring him and watching him, 27 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,159 and things can escalate and spiral into the most comically absurd ways. 28 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,471 Annoyingly, they didn't sort of go with the giving the kid an X-Box angle. 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,198 What did they go with? 30 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,556 "TV Bully Kicks Dwarf In Face." 31 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,958 Accurate. But as you say, there's no such thing as bad publicity. 32 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,634 -"Pick On Someone Your Own Size, Fatty." - Oh, maybe there is. 33 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,913 People often say, "Oh, your comedy is politically incorrect," 34 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,879 and I think we've always felt that it's not, actually, it's politically correct. 35 00:01:44,960 --> 00:01:46,155 This is my agent. 36 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,594 - Darren Lamb. Nice to meet you. - Hi. 37 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,034 This is Warwick. 38 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,838 - Where? - There. 39 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,752 Oh! Midget. Hello. 40 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:57,516 The reason that those uncomfortable issues, like disability or race or whatever, 41 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,592 why they're interesting in comic terms is because 42 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,752 people feel uncomfortable dealing with those areas sometimes, 43 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,877 if they don't feel relaxed about those subjects. 44 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,793 And so, as soon as there's an anxiety about something, 45 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,838 there's always comedy in the wings waiting to burst through. 46 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,038 - What? - Jesus, look. Pissed up, over there. 47 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,235 She's had a few. 48 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:17,879 GERVAIS: In series one, 49 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,874 where I mistakenly think that the girl with cerebral palsy is drunk. 50 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,792 - That's my sister. - Uh? 51 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,871 She's got cerebral palsy. 52 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,437 What makes it worse, her sister's sitting there. 53 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,716 She goes, "That's my sister. She's got cerebral palsy." 54 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,839 And then the backtracking's funny as well. "No, no. Not her. Not..." 55 00:02:34,920 --> 00:02:38,038 Whereas he should have gone, "Sorry, didn't know. Sorry about that." 56 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,317 But it's... The fun is people digging a hole. 57 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,153 She was saying the only thing that keeps her going 58 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,677 is the thought that one day she'll be in heaven and everything will be all right. 59 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,798 And I didn't wanna go, "No, you're barking up the wrong tree, love. 60 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,200 "There's no God, there's no heaven, 61 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,477 "you're not gonna be up there talking normally and running around on legs 62 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,995 "and playing volleyball and everything." 63 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:04,030 We're not laughing at cerebral palsy or Down's syndrome. 64 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,875 We're laughing at the anxiety of someone confronted with those things 65 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,917 and dealing with them inappropriately. 66 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:14,953 This chair free? 67 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:16,909 Yeah. 68 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:28,191 An idea that we had from the first series was Daniel Radcliffe acting like a teenager 69 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:33,036 who's trying to impress with his smoking and then getting caught by his mum. 70 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,430 I don't know why, that just seemed amusing to us straightaway. 71 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,955 - Yeah. - Because he's so identified 72 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,032 with this do-gooding wizard schoolboy. 73 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,477 I think people generally tend to think that, 74 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,915 from interviews or whatever, they sort of know you, 75 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,957 and it would be nice to just completely... 76 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,111 Not that I am particularly playing myself in the episode, 77 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,512 but it would be nice to sort of temporarily destroy the image they think they have of me. 78 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,070 We'd have liked him, obviously, to have been dressed as Harry Potter. 79 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,278 But I think there was concerns from various people 80 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,877 -that it's a very protected brand and... - We had to be very careful with what we said. 81 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,955 And various things we couldn't say or do, but, therefore, we wanted to give him 82 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,476 a costume that perhaps implied a magical fantasy film 83 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:19,555 without it being clearly Harry Potter. And a Boy Scout is the obvious example. 84 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,029 - With a wood-elf. - With a little magical wood-elf. 85 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,351 - That says magical film to me straightaway. - A magical wood-elf? 86 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,670 - A wood-elf playing a flute. -It's a magical film. Yeah. 87 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,876 That to me says magical film. 88 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,713 I had Ricky's number to call him up. I was told to call, so I called him up, 89 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,350 and then we chatted for probably 20 minutes about the episode, 90 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,479 and the fact that I was gonna get to flick a condom onto the head of, 91 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,678 at that time, an unconfirmed dame. 92 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,549 And that sold it, really. That was all I needed to know. 93 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,759 I think, of the various requests we've made of various celebrities, 94 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,670 some of the biggest asks were in this series. 95 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,559 I mean, Dame Diana Rigg with a condom on her head. 96 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,310 Let's just hope it's big enough. 97 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,716 We were on the bus and it was a really hot day. 98 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,632 It was about 98 degrees, we were all sweating. 99 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,112 And I remember we had to get through this, and we only had her for the afternoon, 100 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,395 and I remember at one point going, 101 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,757 "Oh, can you dangle the condom a little bit more over her eye?" 102 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:20,036 And someone was doing this and she's there, just there, 103 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,350 and I thought, "That's a weird day's work." 104 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,670 - It's a strange image. - That's a strange thing to do. 105 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:25,875 "What did you do today?" 106 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:30,113 "Just asked Dame Diana to pop the condom a little bit more over her eye." 107 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,831 Excuse me. Haven't you forgotten something? 108 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,991 Oh, thank you, Dame Diana. 109 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,638 People sometimes ask us why do we think that the stars are willing to take part 110 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,631 for no money and everything. 111 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,872 And I don't know. I think, hopefully, it's a fun day for them. 112 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,076 We had three scenes to do, we got them all done, 113 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,310 it's a really fast way of working. 114 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,394 And you don't feel quite as nervous about laughing. 115 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,477 Thank you, Dame Diana. 116 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,714 - Still gonna use that, yeah? - It'll be fine. 117 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,030 (LAUGHING) 118 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,394 There's no pressure on them 119 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,120 because they straightaway see that we don't really know what we're doing, 120 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,953 and I fuck up my lines and corpse at the slightest things. 121 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,317 So they think, "Well, if it's okay for him, there's nothing to beat here." 122 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,349 - Still gonna use it, then? - Yeah, it'll be fine. 123 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,674 - MERCHANT: Okay, one more, one more. - So close! 124 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:31,038 On most things people work on, if they're doing an eight-hour day, 125 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,432 probably one hour is acting and seven is waiting round in a Winnebago. 126 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,080 And we work very fast, we go, "Let's do it again, let's do this." 127 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,629 Ricky doesn't come in till, like, 128 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:46,599 10:00, and he wants to make sure we leave by 3:00. So the hours are fantastic. 129 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,157 The performance remains fresh the faster you work. 130 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,753 Too much rehearsal, too much planning, 131 00:06:50,840 --> 00:06:52,911 - too much time spent setting everything up... - I think so. 132 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,560 ...can sort of bring the energy levels down. 133 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,029 Of course, that's better for the actors than the crew 134 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,680 because sometimes I feel that I'm rushing crew. 135 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,034 But who's more important, Rick? 136 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,713 - Well, the actors. - Well, exactly. 137 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,871 And also, the crew are annoyed for seven hours, 138 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,474 but then they're home at 4:00 and they thank me.