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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
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Welcome to tonight's QI, where
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we'll be looking at
ticks, tax and toes in the company
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of the ticklish Rose Matafeo...
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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
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..the tactile Ross Noble...
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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
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..the TOE-tally transcendent
Lou Sanders...
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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
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..and the tax-deductible
Alan Davies.
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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
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And, for their buzzers, Rose goes...
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MUSIC: Tick Tock
by Clean Bandit
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# Tick tock, tick tock... #
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Ross goes...
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MUSIC: Sunny Afternoon
by The Kinks
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# The tax man's taken
all my dough... #
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Lou goes...
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MUSIC: Love Is All Around
by The Troggs
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# I feel it in my fingers,
I feel it in my toes... #
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And Alan goes...
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MUSIC: Tiptoe Through The Tulips
by Tiny Tim
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# Tiptoe through the tulips
with me... #
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Wow. Wow.
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Was that Tiny Tim? It WAS Tiny Tim.
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And, yes, I do look exactly like
him.
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I don't know why I turned to you
in that moment, I'm so sorry.
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Right, I'm going to start with
question one.
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Why might a Parisian taxi ride
be electrifying?
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So it was an experiment in Paris...
With electricity.
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..with electricity. And taxis?
Were taxis involved?
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Yes. Nothing gets past you. No.
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They've got the flying ones, haven't
they? They're talking about bringing
them in.
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The heck?! The huh!
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Yay! Whoa!
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You're talking about flying taxis?!
Yeah.
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The French are developing flying
taxis.
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What? Sorry.
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No, it's just like some sort
of circus thing.
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Hey, hey, hey, HEY!
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That's how I do all my thinking.
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Hup! Here it comes!
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First time anyone else has actually
done it to help me into the
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"hup, hup!" It's in! Right, now, go!
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If you just shout "the heck?!"
every now and then...
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The heck?! The heck! Hup!
..he'll be off.
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1987, they decided
to experiment in Paris,
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so they had a number of passengers
who maybe didn't behave very well
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or a bit rude or whatever.
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Zap them?! Yes.
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An electrified seat.
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GASPING AND GROANING
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Wow. Nonfatal!
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They said.
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To be fair, it's in the rudest
city in the world. Yeah. Yeah.
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So it's operated by a foot pedal
in front of the driver's seat.
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The idea was to protect...
You'd never stop, would you?!
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Just holding it down!
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See them in the mirror.
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But you need one the other way
around so that when they start
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being a bit racist,
"The thing about the foreigners..."
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That guy, he was the head of the
taxi union
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and he's showing off
one of these things.
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And apparently the drivers said
it would be perfectly safe
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and they could tell if somebody
was going to be violent
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cos they could see it
in their expressions.
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OK, so the seats were 52,000 volts.
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Yeah, that is slightly more powerful
than a police stun gun,
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which is sort of 40 to 50,000 volts
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and, weirdly, eventually banned.
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What it means is, on the second-hand
market, some of them taxis
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are still knocking about.
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Yeah. Yes, please. Yeah.
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I'll have one of them.
Pick up your mother.
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When you haven't got
a passenger in the back,
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bit of cheese, bit of baguette.
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Chuck it in the back.
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Croque monsieur!
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Thank you very much.
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Sorry. Can I just say - the heck?!
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Yeah.
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The heck?! Hick-hick, hickety-hock!
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That's a great idea, Ross.
Jeez Louise.
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CHEESE Louise. CHEESE Louise!
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That's LIKE a croque monsieur.
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Could I have a cheese Louise?
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That's a Peugeot. What's a Peugeot?
On the left there,
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that's a Peugeot.
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I was overlooked for Top Gear.
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In favour of three total idiots.
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So one of the things I love
about the whole subject about taxis
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in Paris is the women who drove
the taxis. From 1907, the first
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coachwomen appeared.
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This is horse-drawn. And the two
first women to become coachwomen,
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Clementine Dufaut
and Eugenie Charnier,
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there was a huge crowd.
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They thought it was so exciting.
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Here's the sort of downside of it.
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The female drivers were often
heckled,
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and the heckle that they used
to get is "et les chaussettes?"
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Anybody know what it means?
She's a shoe.
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LAUGHTER
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What about the socks?
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In other words,
who's going to darn the socks
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if you are driving a taxi?
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Urgh, that's sexism, Sandi. I know.
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It's shocking. Just another example.
Shocking. Yeah.
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That's why you were overlooked
for Sock...Top Gear.
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Sock Gear?!
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I love the sound of Sock Gear!
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If you're going to make THAT show,
I'm in.
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We review different socks
every week.
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But look at this woman just darning
a sock whilst being.
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She's sewing it
onto a horse's face.
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This was a craze for postcards
and newspaper cartoons depicting
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the female cabbies or mostly
satirising them, showing the women
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that they couldn't control
their horses or the women looking,
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I don't know, overly sexualized
or overly masculine. This man,
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he's saying, "All women cab
drivers - myself, when I'm bored,
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"I spend an hour alone with a woman
for 40 sous."
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He looks lovely.
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He looks a charm.
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Everything about him, he seems
gorgeous.
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Wouldn't you have loved to be with
him all lockdown?
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And on top of it all,
he's bloody French.
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See, Top Gear!
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Lots of French postcards of the time
showing women in male occupations
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because it was thought to be
so sort of amusing.
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So you get women hanging up
bill posters and that kind of thing.
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There, look, like that.
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QUIETLY: Is that a ladder
or are they her legs?
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I like how you whispered that
as if she could hear you.
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Might the other woman suddenly
shoot up on her own version?!
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You asked it gently, like
"Women are a mystery".
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Now, what noise is this clock
making?
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TICKING
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Tick-tock!
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KLAXON, LAUGHTER
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Is that wrong?! It is wrong.
Yes. Oh.
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So NO clock goes tick-tock.
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It's actually just
tick, tick, tick, tick. Oh. Oh!
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But what we do is we automatically
organise repeating sounds
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into music. And generally, the brain
gives the second note in a pair
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a slightly lower tone. And so we put
the emphasis on the first.
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So we go tick-tock. But you can
overrule this conditioning.
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OK? So if you try and say
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tick-TOCK-tick, tick-TOCK-tick
aloud,
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as you listen to the clock,
you will gradually hear
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the ticks become tocks. Now, look.
What?
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Clocks, they do...don't...
It's not always the same sound
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on the way there as the way back.
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Wha-a-at? Are you talking about
time machines?
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That's what it is. Are you saying
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a pendulum takes longer
to come back one way?
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No, I'm saying, I feel,
I feel in my head... Yes.
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..that a clock makes a tick and a
tock sound - doesn't make the same
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sound twice. It makes one sound one
way, a different sound the other.
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On the journey, it kind of changes
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and it comes back a different
person. Yeah.
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Anyone else feel that way?
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No-one! Shit!
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What if you were eating Tic Tacs
while you said it?
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Would that change it? The truth is,
most clocks go tick-tick,
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but we want to hear it as tick-tock
and we do this in changing vowels
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all the time. So we have flip-flop,
ping pong, mishmash,
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tiptop. It's something that we do.
Oh, right.
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But what about bring-bring?
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What is bring-bring?
Bring-bring! Oh!
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I thought it was like...
No-one said "bring-brong"!
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"I can't handle bring-bring!" I
thought bring-bring was something
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you said to the butler. Hey...!
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Now I'm thinking of dick pic.
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Ross, welcome to MY world.
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On the phone - would you like me to
send you a DICK-pic?
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Pick-a-dick.
Pick a dick for the dick pic!
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It's basically a trick of the mind.
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The same thing can happen with car
indicator noises, that we think
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that there are two different notes
because we automatically try
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and make it a little bit
more musical than it actually is.
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That also works
if you're listening to The Prodigy.
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What is The Prodigy?
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LAUGHTER
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It's a small child
who plays a violin.
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Yes. Quite a lot of posh people
get a bit confused.
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They turn up to a Prodigy gig,
they're expecting,
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"When is this young boy going
to say, Smack My Bitch Up?"
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So there's another clock-based
trick of the mind.
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What I want you to do is glance
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at the second hand of an analogue
clock as it's ticking, OK?
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And there is an illusion, which is
called the stopped-clock illusion,
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that, when you glance at it,
the very first tick,
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as you look at it, seems to take
a little bit longer than usual.
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And it's a thing called
chronostasis.
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You know that thing, it's
an old-fashioned thing,
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but if you have the receiver in one
ear and it's ringing... Bring-bring.
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Bring-bring, of course. Bring-bring.
Oh, now we all want bring-bring.
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If you switch to the other ear,
then for a brief moment,
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you can hear silence. It's as if the
phone has been answered,
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and then the ringing starts again.
There is no extra gap there,
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it's just that that's what it feels
like to us. Actually, the most...
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You just...! I was just overwhelmed
by the concept of time,
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I think! It's just, it's all...
Cos time is just made up, isn't it?
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Well, OK.
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What about when you go on holiday?
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When you go on holiday... Yeah.
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What seems to happen, if
you're on holiday for two weeks.
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Yeah. What seems to happen in the
second week?
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Everyone's hair gets
slightly longer.
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The second week, you sort of drop
the offensive accent.
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And you've finished with the waiter,
already.
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You're sort of, you're done with the
waiter. Done with the waiter.
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How do you get your food?
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Well, no, he's not bringing you
food.
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Wow. So basically, time seems
to be quicker on the second...
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And that's because you're used to
everything or used to where you are.
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You see the inflatable just next to
the steps there?
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Only the Queen is allowed
to ride on that.
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He's actually been dropped
from an aeroplane.
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Doesn't it depend on how much
you like your family?
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When the time is quicker or slower?
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Well, I mean, it sort of depends
on whether you're being
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overstimulated or not.
Time apparently seems to slow down
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on a person's first skydive,
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by 36%... Really? ..because you're
so overwhelmed by all the stimulus
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that you're taking in,
and it seems to make time slow down
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for you. Here's the thing
about skydiving, you know
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when you pull the thing like that
and you would think
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that you go woosh up in the air.
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But that's because when it's filmed,
you go woomph like that,
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and the camera person's there and
it, whoosh, and they keep falling,
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so you think that it's an up,
but it's just a "oh!"
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Can I just ask, have you ever been
skydiving?
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No, never. But...
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I've never done it.
But I did talk to a cameraman once.
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Brave. Brave. Love that.
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Yeah. I did it.
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I strapped onto a bloke
and he jumped out.
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Why would you do that?
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I mean, really, when I thought back,
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I thought, I didn't even know him.
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How did you know he could do it?
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Well, he was offered up as,
you know, the person you strap to.
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Yeah. And I don't know.
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I mean, he could have been in ANY
sort of mood, couldn't he? I know.
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Yeah, but to be fair,
you were just strapped to him
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for the whole holiday and he went,
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"Shall we jump out of a plane?"
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Yeah, we did a lot of activities.
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But did time seem to stand still
in that moment
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that you launched yourself
from the plane?
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It was the most frightening thing
ever.
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Did you do it for charity
or just for yourself?
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I did it because I'd broken up
with a girlfriend who told me
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that her previous boyfriend
was much braver than me!
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And cleverer and more...and funnier!
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That was really wounding.
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And I thought, "I'm going to jump
out of a plane. I'll show you."
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And they said, "Right, put your foot
out on the wheel strut,"
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and I absolutely shat myself.
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If I hadn't
been strapped to this fella,
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I would never have gone.
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And just be clear, as you shat
yourself, was he behind you
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or in front of you? He was behind.
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He took it in his stride, Sandi.
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Literally.
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And did you land safely into
your ex-girlfriend's wedding or...?
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Right. How do you hide -
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think carefully -
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..17,000 swimming pools?
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OK. I'm going to give you a clue.
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LOU: I don't need one.
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No. Oh!
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I've got it, I've got it! No, no,
everybody watch and learn. OK.
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Well, what you do, Sandi...
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17,000 blankets.
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Well...camouflage might help.
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Are we talking about aerial
photography? Yes.
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So in 2008, the Greek government -
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famous for being able to collect
taxes -
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they decided to put a tax
on swimming pools in Athens.
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324 households checked the box
on the form, to say,
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"Yes, indeed, we have a pool."
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So they looked at some satellite
images of the city,
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and they found 16,974!
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And so there was a swimming pool
builder in Athens,
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and all he did was get requests
from people saying,
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"How can I hide my pool?"
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So all kinds of things, blankets
that mimicked grass, frankly,
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floating tiles, camouflage nets,
anything that they could think of.
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Wow. So I was kind of right.
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I think I'm going to give you
a point, because I do think
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you were sort of heading
in the right direction. Thank you.
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APPLAUSE
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France has got the highest
proportion of privately owned
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swimming pools in Europe,
and they're taxed there too.
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How do you justify taxing a hole
in the ground with water in it?
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Yeah. "You've got a hole there, with
water in, so that'll cost you."
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You think this guy looks married?
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I think not, I'm going to go...
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That's my husband
you're talking about!
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So the swimming pool is considered
a luxury tax.
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And there was a time in history
when being a bachelor was also
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considered to be a luxury.
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Yes! And single people should pay
the government
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for their failure to marry.
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Damn! When might it have come up
as a thought that maybe some
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of those single men...?
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Oh, is it just men, or women as
well? It's men.
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Women can do what they like.
Is it to do with conscription?
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It is around the war.
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So we are talking about 1920.
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It was seen as sinful, it was seen
as not doing your duty after
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the First World War, that bachelors
were just having a good time.
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Sandi, love is a war.
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It is, the way YOU do it,
Lou Sanders.
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From what I've heard,
it's more of a skirmish.
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1920, a group of women in
Perigueux, France,
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formed the Anti Bachelor Society...
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They could just marry them,
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they don't need a society!
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Get out there and marry
some of these poor bastards!
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The problem was there were so many
casualties from World War I,
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that there weren't enough men
to go around.
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And what these women demanded
was that the bachelors
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should pay extra tax,
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they should be banned from voting,
or holding public office.
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- I love it.
- I'm all for that. Yeah.
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I have to say, it didn't quite work
out, but the government
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did introduce a 25% tax surcharge
on unmarried men and women
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over the age of 30,
because they wanted to boost
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the ageing population.
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The English Parliament in 1695
passed the Marriage Duty Act,
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which taxed bachelors over 25
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in a bid to raise funds
for war with France.
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And I have to say, we're not
the only country
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that has had this discussion
about a bachelor tax.
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The United States, there was a big
discussion about it.
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It didn't actually happen,
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but here's a cartoon suggesting
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what would happen if this law
came into effect.
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But anyway, it has been common
across lots of countries,
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this idea that bachelors have some
kind of duty to get married.
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Up until, from the late 19th century
until World War II, Denmark
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had a thing that women aged
between 13 and 20 could take out
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insurance against celibacy,
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and if they were still unmarried
at 40, then you got a pension
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from your insurance policy.
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Wow. Bring it back! Bring it back!
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If you can disguise your swimming
pool as a spouse, you've got
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the ultimate tax dodge.
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What's wrong with this creature?
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It's not in my lap.
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Does anybody know what it is?
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It's an echidna. Yes!
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Have you seen an echidna? Oh...
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Not only have I seen echidnas,
I'm obsessed with them.
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Why obsessed with them? Well,
cos they crawl about in my garden.
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OK, let me get this out.
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They're great.
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Oh... No, the, er,
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the echidna has...
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I know you're going
to get annoyed when I say this
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because it's...
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It's got four penises.
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Not ANOTHER one!
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He's got one penis. Yeah.
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With four ends on.
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Yeah. So, you know, take your pick.
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So, like, eco, sport... Yes.
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You're thinking of Cock Gear.
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So they live in Australia
and New Guinea, is where they live.
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And they're a mammal,
but they lay eggs.
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Yeah, that's true. This is an
extraordinary example of an echidna.
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It dates back to 1828.
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It's from the Grant Museum at UCL,
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and it was lent to us
by Tannis Davidson.
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WHISPERS: Is it sleeping?
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It's dead.
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You started this question
by saying what's wrong with it?
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What's RIGHT with it is
it's got four dicks.
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But it's got four something else,
which are wrong. Legs.
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Yeah. In what way are they wrong?
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They're facing the wrong direction.
How do you know that?
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Cos I'm guessing, Sandi,
I'm guessing.
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They've had to nail its feet down,
to stop it flipping over
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and giving you all four.
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Is it that the toes should go
that way?
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Yes. So it's got its feet on
back to front is the thing.
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So they have what looked
like backward feet
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on their rear legs.
So can you see the one on the right?
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That is correct. OK?
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It's to make predators think
that they're going towards
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them or something. It's like
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when you paint a face on your bum.
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It's to enable you to dig properly,
so that you can scrape earth
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out of the hole much more
efficiently as you go downwards.
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So the problem with this, clearly,
the taxidermist had never seen
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an echidna, OK? Oh! And it arrived,
didn't know what it looked like,
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and thought, "Well, those feet
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"for a start, they must be
on the wrong way around."
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And it just put them where
you'd think feet ought to go,
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but it's completely back to front.
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So, in those days,
an exotic specimen would arrive,
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you wouldn't have a photograph
or whatever.
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It would probably be pickled
and it would be incomplete,
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and the taxidermist's job is to put
it back together and then stuff it.
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And if you've never seen the animal
before, you would have no idea
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whatsoever how it ought
to be displayed.
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The most famous example of that
is one of my favourites.
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It's the Gripsholm Castle Lion
in Stockholm.
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Have you seen it? Yeah,
it's amazing.
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Yeah. Wow.
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Yeah.
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He was a present in the 1730s,
to King Frederick I of Sweden.
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But clearly, the guy who received
the bundle of bones and whatever,
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had never actually seen a lion!
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What he's done there, he's got the
lenses from a pair of sunglasses.
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I LOVE him. I love him.
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And I have just discovered that Leo
the Lion has his own Facebook page.
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He has 7,500 followers.
One more today.
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And I found his last posting.
It was from Christmas.
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Have a look at this.
This is a really pleasing thing.
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Aww!
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That is terrifying.
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I think I'm becoming a fan
of bad taxidermy.
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This is a wonky ocelot,
which I REALLY like.
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Look at that!
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Isn't that great?
So the first one is from 1880.
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The one on the left is 1880
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and the second one, 1934.
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I think they thought that didn't go
so well, that first one.
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There is a taxidermied blue whale
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I have discovered for you.
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ALAN GASPS
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Yes. I'm very excited about this.
It's a juvenile,
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it's not the full kind of size...
Acceptable.
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..but it's in a museum in
Gothenburg.
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It was caught in the 1860s.
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And what they did was they took the
skin off and they stretched it
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over a frame. And to make it more
attractive to visitors, OK,
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they hinged the jaw, and you could
go inside.
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And that's just about 25 people
having dinner,
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on the left there!
That picture on the right,
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is that it breaking out?
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Well... "I've had enough of this!"
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They moved the museum, the Natural
History Museum, to a new building,
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and this was how they got the whale,
the taxidermied whale out.
448
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Surely if it's stuffed,
you just let it out.
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You just... Re-inflate it?
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..schhhhloop it down and then...
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I would have loved
to have had dinner inside a whale.
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Do you not think that's an amazing
look? Does look quite good fun.
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They stopped doing it in the 1930s,
because they discovered a couple
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having sex inside the whale. Ugh!
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One couple spoils everything!
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I know! Jonah and the moaner?
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APPLAUSE
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Anybody in the audience remember
seeing stuffed dogs at train
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stations with coin slots in them
in order to collect money?
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Put your hand up if you remember.
At Wimbledon. Wimbledon.
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Yeah. So they were real dogs
that had been taxidermied
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and then they had coin slots for
donations either in their backs
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or in their heads.
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And it dates from a Victorian
tradition, which I think lasted
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until about the 1950s, that dogs,
they were called charity dogs, used
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to roam around British railway
stations collecting for good causes
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and they'd have a collection box
on them.
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And then some of them were stuffed
after death so that they could
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go on collecting.
There's a very good example called
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London Jack, and London Jack was a
black dog, a flat-coated retriever,
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but he went...
That's him on the left there.
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He'd gone blond in the sunlight
and a taxidermist looked at him,
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discovered he'd got dark roots,
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so they re-dyed him on the...
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Every woman will appreciate this can
happen. This can happen...
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There was a load of real
Labradors that died
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from getting coins jammed
in their head.
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I used to have a...
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00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,080
I had a stuffed otter, and...
480
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,800
LAUGHTER
481
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,720
It's not a euphemism, calm down!
482
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:48,080
So I was in Kilkenny,
and I won some money on a horse
483
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,000
and I got this money.
484
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,440
I was walking past this sort of junk
shop and I saw this stuffed art
485
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,040
and I thought, "Well, hang on,
there's a stuffed otter,
486
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,480
"I have got some money. This is a
match made in heaven."
487
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,800
So I got this otter, I spent three
days just having fun with it
488
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,320
around Kilkenny, you know, playing
pranks on people, that sort of
thing.
489
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,080
And then I wanted to bring it back.
490
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,280
I was living in London at the time
and I thought,
491
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,040
"Are you allowed to import animal
products, that sort of thing?"
492
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,360
So I went to the police station and
I walked in with it under my arm,
493
00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:19,960
and there was an old Irish policeman
sat there like that
494
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,360
and I said to him,
495
00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:23,440
"I want to take this otter
to London."
496
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,960
He went,
"Oh, that'll be nice for him."
497
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,400
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
498
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,440
Have you still got it?
499
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:37,640
No.
500
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,160
What happened to it?
501
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,520
It died. He went...
502
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,360
He returned to his homeland.
503
00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:46,160
What? Did you return him to the sea?
504
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,720
No. If you must know, Sandi,
my house burned down,
505
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,920
I lost everything I owned.
But let's not mention that.
506
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,400
GROANING
507
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,280
Is that true? Yeah. Yeah.
508
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,840
And you know what?
509
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,720
I suspect the otter. Yeah!
510
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,200
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
511
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,080
Now, what do elephants
and ballerinas have in common?
512
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,640
Costumes. Look. Yes.
513
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,720
It's really unethical to ride either
514
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,600
of them for entertainment.
515
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,480
You shouldn't do it. If you go to
the Royal Ballet
516
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,600
and try to ride one
of the ballerinas,
517
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,080
only the Queen
is allowed to ride the ones
518
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,480
from Swan Lake.
519
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,200
You nearly made it through
there. I nearly did!
520
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,120
I started laughing before...!
521
00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:37,320
You thought of the mental
image of it.
522
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,560
I've got it. If they look at you
in a certain way,
523
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,160
they're going to charge at you.
524
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,720
Is it to do with the laws
of physics?
525
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,240
Oh! NOW this is interesting!
526
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,640
Is it to do with how unlikely it is
that you could stand
527
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,920
on your toes...as elephants stand on
things in circuses? You are heading
528
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,080
in the right direction,
and it is to do with their toes.
529
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,800
Elephants naturally walk
on their toes, which are positioned
530
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,200
at the front of their feet,
but their heel bones
531
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,600
are off the ground.
532
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,920
And if we have a look at a drawing,
they also have this large fatty pad
533
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,600
behind the toes, and that
structure - so, toes in front
534
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,240
and the fatty pad behind -
it gives them a longer step
535
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,560
and it enables them to spread out
their massive weight.
536
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,840
It does put enormous pressure
on their feet.
537
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,720
So if there's a hard surface,
they often get very sore feet.
538
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,000
And the ballet tiptoe technique
is something
539
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,280
that they have in common.
540
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,640
It actually first started
in the early 19th century,
541
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,920
it was considered a stunt until
a wonderful ballerina turned up,
542
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,000
called Marie Taglione.
543
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,400
And before that, ballerinas
had stood on their toes
544
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,680
with the aid of wires.
I'm sorry to give it away.
545
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,560
And she was just a superstar.
546
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,320
There was Taglione mania, there
was cakes, hairstyles, dolls
547
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,960
named after her.
548
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,840
She was a kind of star
that it's hard to imagine today.
549
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,040
And after her last performance,
which was in Russia in 1842,
550
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,920
a group of ballet fans supposedly
bought a pair of her shoes.
551
00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:01,920
They had them fricasseed,
552
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,680
and they ate them,
washed down with champagne!
553
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,200
Wow. Werner Herzog.
554
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,560
That's great. But here is a lesson
about celebrity.
555
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,160
She could not have been more famous,
more revered,
556
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,800
and she ended her life poor, giving
deportment lessons in London.
557
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:21,040
Right, I want you to name a
completely futile game.
558
00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:23,720
Golf.
559
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,920
I played hide-and-seek on my own,
once. That was quite futile.
560
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,120
AUDIENCE: Awww!
561
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:30,920
Were you seeking or hiding?
562
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,040
Sort of sat behind the sofa.
563
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,320
"I'm never going to find me here!"
564
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,200
Any thoughts, what might a futile
game be in game theory?
565
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,720
One with no end,
one with a middle?
566
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,920
A futile game is one, if both sides
play it absolutely perfectly,
567
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,080
it will always result in a draw.
568
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,520
So the best example of that,
what the Americans call tic-tac-toe,
569
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,960
but which we call noughts and
crosses. Noughts and crosses.
570
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,040
So unless somebody makes a
mistake...
571
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,520
Well, they have -
they've put a kid in the middle.
572
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,400
The weird thing about this game is
it's fairly universal and has also
573
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,920
been around for a really long time.
574
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:11,000
So this grid, you see it on roofing
tiles dating from around 1300 BC
575
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,000
in ancient Egypt, you see the
same grid chalked all over Rome
576
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,240
around the first century BC...
577
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,200
And you see it on stock cubes.
578
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,000
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
579
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,480
So I'm going to make a connection
between noughts and crosses,
580
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,040
and an ordinary box of matches,
581
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,760
and artificial intelligence.
582
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,560
How are we going to get there? Any
thoughts?
583
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,280
Well, don't put the box of matches
near Ross because he's already
584
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,000
set his house on fire once.
585
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,560
LAUGHTER AND GROANING
586
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:44,800
It was the otter.
587
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,760
So, in the 1960s, there was a former
Bletchley Park code-breaker
588
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,080
called Donald Michie
589
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,840
and he decided what he really wanted
to do was to build a computer
590
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,000
that would never lose
at noughts and crosses.
591
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:03,080
What he did was he built it out of
matchboxes and coloured beads,
592
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,440
and it was called MENACE -
593
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,200
the Matchbox Educable
Noughts And Crosses Engine.
594
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,320
It consisted of 304 matchboxes
because 304 is all the possible
595
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,320
situations that there are in noughts
and crosses, OK?
596
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,960
And each box contains
different-coloured beads.
597
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,600
Now, I have to tell you, we are
going to show you such a machine.
598
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,360
It has been built by the
mathematician Matthew Scroggs.
599
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,680
I do not fully understand it.
600
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,200
So, Matthew, I'm going to hand over
to you.
601
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,080
I'll take this one. OK.
602
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,880
Matthew, I'm going to take it over
to you. But this is a replica
603
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,880
that you've built yourself,
isn't it?
604
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,480
This is the replica I've built
of Donald Michie's original MENACE.
605
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,760
So it's built from 304 matchboxes,
as you said.
606
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,760
The first important thing is
we have a key here, which tells us
607
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,080
each of the nine squares
I've given a colour to.
608
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,480
So the coloured beads inside
the boxes tell me where MENACE
609
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,920
would like to play,
using the colour code.
610
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,080
So we started the game earlier.
611
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,680
MENACE made three moves,
612
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,240
you made two moves. OK.
Which means it's your move.
613
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,640
You're playing as crosses.
614
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,040
LOU: Who's Menace?
ROSE: And is he single?
615
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,840
Right. So on the front of each
matchbox,
616
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,720
we have pictures of all the
positions in noughts and crosses.
617
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,000
So shortly I'm going to be looking
through the pile to find the one,
618
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,200
but you first need to make a move,
so I know which one to look for.
619
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,440
So I don't want you to win.
620
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,720
So I am going to put a cross.
621
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,960
Classic move, Sandi.
Thank you, darling.
622
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,560
APPLAUSE
623
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,760
OK. Could you turn the board
upside down?
624
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,360
There we go. There we go.
The board now matches
625
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,640
the picture
on the front of my matchbox.
626
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,400
OK. So this is the box we use. OK.
627
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,600
Inside this box,
there will be three beads.
628
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,480
They will be coloured
white, red and orange. Yeah.
629
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,320
Because those are the three
places MENACE can move next.
630
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,040
Right? So those are the three empty
spaces. Yes.
631
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,280
Up here on the, on the board.
632
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,000
So I'm now taking one of the beads
out. Yeah.
633
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,840
And it is a red. Which is here?
634
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,560
Middle-right, which is there.
So a nought goes there. This one?
635
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,000
Yeah.
636
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,440
Nought,
which means I am going to go here.
637
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,560
So I seem to have won.
Does that spoil it? No.
638
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,400
So actually it's not surprising
you've won because this MENACE
639
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,120
is quite a young MENACE.
So it's not very intelligent so far.
640
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,960
But what we're going to do now is
we're going to do the learning step,
641
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,360
which makes it
a machine-learning machine.
642
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,360
So because MENACE lost,
643
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,240
if we take the last matchbox
we used,
644
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,080
we picked a red bead.
645
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,800
Mm-hm. This was a bad move
cos this let you win.
646
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,880
So I'm going to take this red bead
away.
647
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,040
So now, next time MENACE uses this
box, it doesn't have a red bead,
648
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,320
so it will try something else.
649
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,840
So it's not going to make the same
mistake and lose again.
650
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,720
But this was the beginning,
was it not, of understanding
651
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,000
that it was possible somehow
to develop the concept
652
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,360
of machine learning?
653
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,680
Is this the same principle as
654
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,760
tick all the boxes that have got
traffic lights in?
655
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,360
They work on a similar system.
656
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,600
The whole idea is that
it's all about trial and error.
657
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,440
So you try lots of things
and you keep the things that work.
658
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,000
So this looks like it's learning.
659
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,960
It's not actually thinking or
learning,
660
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,720
but it behaves like it does.
661
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,400
ROSS: It's a long way from that
to the Terminator, isn't it?
662
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,800
Thank God!
We're only at the matchbox!
663
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,440
I tell you what, when they do the
prequel to the Terminator,
664
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,440
that's going to be a boring film,
isn't it?
665
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,880
A box of matches lands out the sky!
666
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,720
But you know what's amazing
about it, and I get
667
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,400
that it's really complicated
and I have not fully understood it,
668
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,080
but I love that a man by himself
with a series of matchboxes
669
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,360
and some beads was the founding
person to come up with the idea
670
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,480
that a machine could learn.
It is amazing, isn't it?
671
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,520
It's incredible. So if you want to
know more about it,
672
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,400
which I really hope
what we've done is
673
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,920
we've sort of tickled your interest
in it, WHAT can we do, Matthew?
674
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,960
So there's a blog post on my website
and a playable version
675
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,040
of it, so you can play against it
to kind of really see that it does
676
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,600
get better at noughts and crosses.
677
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,120
How many times does it need to play
it for it to get intel,
678
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,080
like smart enough to...?
After about 30 games,
679
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,280
it will draw half the time
and lose half the time.
680
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,240
After about 60 or 70 games,
it will pretty consistently draw.
681
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,640
Oh, my God.
682
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,880
How good is that
against five Zippo lighters?
683
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,160
Matthew, thank you so much indeed.
684
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,240
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
685
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,960
What is the curse of knowledge?
686
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,040
Oh, go on, ask me.
687
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,720
What is the curse of knowledge?
Alan?
688
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,640
Well, ignorance is bliss, Sandi,
isn't it, you see?
689
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,880
OK, I'm going to demonstrate
what I mean by it.
690
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,920
OK. So let's start with you, Ross.
691
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,760
You've got a stick beside you.
692
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,160
Oh, have I? Oh, sorry.
693
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,680
And there is a card next to you,
694
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,760
which, I do not want
you to say it out loud,
695
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,120
but there's the name
of a well-known tune,
696
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,560
which I'm going to get you to tap
out on the desk with your stick.
697
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,960
OK? OK.
What do you think are the chances,
698
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,240
like percentage-wise,
the chances of us guessing
699
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,840
what you're tapping out?
700
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,400
I would think 2%. 2%?
701
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,440
Why, are you really rubbish at
tapping? No,
702
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,720
it's just because you've only got
the rhythm, haven't you?
703
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,080
You haven't got the... Give it a go.
Give it a go. I'm ready to be proved
wrong. OK. OK.
704
00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:16,200
If you get down to the woods today
you're sure of a big surprise.
705
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,040
Yes! Oh, yeah. Wow!
706
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,440
Wow!
707
00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:23,120
Wow! Can I just say...
708
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,760
He's a wizard! Burn him!
709
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,400
..also overlooked
for Never Mind The Buzzcocks.
710
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,320
That was VERY impressive.
711
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,560
There was a famous experiment done
by a psychologist called
712
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,520
Elizabeth Newton in the 1990s,
713
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,760
and so she got people
to tap out tunes,
714
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,040
and the tappers used to estimate
beforehand how much success
715
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,000
they were going to have. And so,
they mostly guessed things like 50%.
716
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,480
In fact, their success rate
was about 2.5%. I said 2, didn't I?
717
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,280
I said 2! Yeah, you did.
718
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,520
I said 2. But he's a wizard, so...
719
00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:57,840
But what happened was the tappers
were astonished that people
720
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,080
couldn't get it from the tapping
721
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,360
because they knew what the answer
was,
722
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,640
so they rather imagined
that the listeners must know
723
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,040
what the answer was. And it's known
as the curse of knowledge.
724
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,640
We all overestimate our ability
to clearly convey information,
725
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,520
and we find it very difficult
to remember or know that somebody
726
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,000
doesn't actually know the answer.
727
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,640
And you see it in young children.
728
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,000
And the thing about young children
is they haven't yet learned to try
729
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,000
and compensate for this effect.
730
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,760
So, show a four-year-old a box of
sweets, or what looks like a box
731
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,600
of sweets on the outside, and you
say, "What's inside this box?"
732
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:29,920
And they'll say, "Sweets."
733
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,160
If you open it and show them
that there are pencils inside,
734
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,200
then immediately they go, "Oh, yeah,
yeah, it's pencils," right?
735
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,080
So when the next child is asked,
"What do you think is in this box?"
736
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,560
And the child says, "Sweets,"
737
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,520
the other child goes,
"Idiot. Idiot." Yeah.
738
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,200
"You're an idiot, it's pencils.
Everybody knows it's pencils."
739
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,880
Because they can no longer imagine
740
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,400
not knowing
that it's got pencils in there.
741
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,720
Well, kids are thick, aren't they?
So...
742
00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:59,160
I've got one, you know, I've got
one. What are the percentages of us
743
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,800
having a guess? 100%. 100%, OK.
Get real.
744
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,640
National anthem.
745
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,080
Come on, everyone.
746
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,920
AUDIENCE: # Twinkle, twinkle,
little star
747
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,160
# How I wonder what you are. #
748
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,760
I KNEW you were getting it!
749
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,960
So what I think is,
ten points for the audience.
750
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,960
CHEERING
751
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,520
You know what this means.
752
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,520
Brand-new TV format -
753
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,120
Tap Gear.
754
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,200
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
755
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,640
Come on!
756
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,320
Now, we've toed the line, ticking
every box along the way,
757
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,440
let's tack in the direction
of general ignorance.
758
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,680
What are those little bumps you can
see on your tongue, called?
759
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,120
Herpes.
760
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,000
Papillae.
761
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,680
They ARE called papillae. Yes!
762
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,920
You're so clever today!
763
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,920
APPLAUSE
764
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,920
And what do you do with those?
765
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,680
Well, cats scrape the skin
off animals with them.
766
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,240
I've seen a lion eat horse meat,
and its papillae are so sharp,
767
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:39,200
it can lick a lump of horse meat
and it'll hang off its tongue. Wow!
768
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,680
So, though, for us, they're not
really serving a lot of purpose.
769
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,720
Do you know what the purple bits
are? Make 'em look pretty?
770
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:48,160
Those are our taste buds.
Taste buds. Yeah.
771
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,600
Which most people think are
the little bumps, but they are,
772
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,680
in fact, ALL taste buds are entirely
invisible to the naked eye.
773
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,840
25% of the population, mainly women,
are what are called super-tasters.
774
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,120
They're specifically good
at detecting bitterness.
775
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,360
This is the sort of thing
you should have on a Tinder profile.
776
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,480
And then there's 25% of people
are non-tasters and these are people
777
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,640
who can't detect bitter tastes
at all.
778
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,720
Equally good on a Tinder profile.
779
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:16,840
"I can't taste,
I can't detect anything."
780
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,800
It is worth knowing because
super-tasters tend to be
781
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,200
fussy eaters because they can taste
so many more things.
782
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,640
Children are more sensitive
to bitterness than adults,
783
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,400
so when a child says, "That Brussels
sprout tastes disgusting,"
784
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,760
it probably to them is
absolutely disgusting.
785
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,160
Also, Brussels sprouts ARE
disgusting. No!
786
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,880
Whoa. I'll stop you there.
787
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,840
I love them!
I'll stop you right there.
788
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,240
I'm a super-taster!
789
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:40,720
Anyway, moving on.
790
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:43,480
Where would you find the world's
oldest boomerang?
791
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,280
Oh, it's still out there somewhere.
792
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:51,040
Where would you find it? Come on,
what's the obvious...?
793
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,640
Australia.
794
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,680
KLAXON
795
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,600
Kent. Yeah, it's probably
in a British museum
796
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,440
because they bloody stole it
from Australia.
797
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,200
So the oldest surviving Australian
boomerang comes from a peat bog
798
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,400
in South Australia.
It's about the same age as boats.
799
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,640
It's about 10,000 years old.
800
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:14,160
But in 1986, archaeologists found
a boomerang in southern Poland.
801
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,840
Uh! Mm! At 23,000 years old,
either it was Polish
802
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,160
or it had come a bloody long way.
803
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,760
That is a fingernail, I'm so sorry
to say.
804
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,960
It's the exact same shape as
the Australian boomerang, but made
805
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,560
of a mammoth tusk.
806
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,360
And there are carved ancient
boomerangs.
807
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,240
They're found all over the world,
from North Africa to Arizona.
808
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:34,360
They were probably used
in hunting and in warfare.
809
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:39,400
Almost all of the non-Australian
ones are non-returning, as it were.
810
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,520
If you want a returning boomerang,
you have to find an Australian one.
811
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,600
Have you tried a boomerang? I have.
812
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,680
Have you tried catching a wooden
boomerang?
813
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,440
Is it painful?
Take your fingers off.
814
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,360
Cos you go,
"I've done it! I've done it!"
815
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,840
Oh, shit!
816
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,840
I don't want it to come back.
817
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,120
I had one that my auntie in
Australia sent me as a present
818
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,040
and I opened it up,
went in the garden and threw it,
819
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,040
and it looped right round and
820
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,040
into next door's window
821
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,880
and set the burglar alarm off.
822
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,440
My ex-boyfriend used to call me
Boomerang
823
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:11,720
because I kept coming back.
824
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,600
Oh, sweetie.
825
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,800
That, and other names. OK.
826
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,680
They tried it out
on the International Space Station.
827
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,040
I don't know how there was room,
but they wanted to prove
828
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,320
that a boomerang would work the same
in zero gravity.
829
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,080
So in 1992, the astronauts had a go.
I don't see why it wouldn't work.
830
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,800
They rely on air - there's air on
the International Space Station.
831
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,760
They just seem to be up to random
shit up there. They're like
832
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,680
"Ooh, what does chocolate milk
look like in no gravity?"
833
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,320
You're like, "Do your job!"
834
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,840
They're up there
with 300 matchboxes.
835
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,920
And then the beans all float out!
"Oh, no!
836
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,360
"No!"
837
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,040
Two things I did not know
about boomerangs -
838
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,640
Boomerang World Championships,
839
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,680
the Germans and the Americans win
nearly all the titles.
840
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,960
Australians have not won since 1984.
841
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,720
And Britain exports over 50,000
842
00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:05,320
boomerangs a year.
843
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,560
But they keep coming back. No...
844
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:14,000
Now, who invented the talking cure?
845
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,440
Freud.
846
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,480
KLAXON
847
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,240
Not Freud. It's the person who
doesn't get the credit
848
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:24,000
and ought to get the credit for it.
849
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,400
LOU SIGHS
850
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,400
Oh, a woman...probably.
851
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,040
The Bitter Feminist -
the new podcast.
852
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,400
Every week,
"It was a woman, probably."
853
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,640
Anna O was a famous client of
Freud's. Yeah, I know.
854
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,640
She was a woman called
Bertha Pappenheim.
855
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,440
She had headaches and blurred vision
and hallucinations, memory loss,
all sorts of things.
856
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,240
And she went to a physician called
Josef Breuer and asked for help,
857
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:53,560
and he decided she had hysteria
858
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,800
because she had uncontrolled
emotions.
859
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,960
And she suggested that what
she would like to do is to talk
860
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,760
through her symptoms in detail.
861
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,360
She called it the talking cure
or chimney sweeping,
862
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,680
which I quite like.
863
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,920
And Dr Breuer and his young
colleague, Sigmund Freud,
864
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,560
co-wrote a landmark work of
psychology, called
865
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,400
Studies In Hysteria, in 1895.
866
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,680
And they wrote about her case
under the pseudonym of Anna O,
867
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,280
and used her term,
"The talking cure".
868
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,120
But it was her idea.
Is he in a high-heeled shoe?
869
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,240
Where are you...?
870
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,240
LAUGHTER
871
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,360
Cos you know women - the two things
they love is
872
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,320
yapping away and high heels.
873
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,000
I'll tell you what, with
that stick, she can be the first
874
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,440
celebrity guest on Tap Gear!
875
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,760
"Our star with a reasonably
priced stick, bring her on!
876
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,920
"Get in your shoe!"
877
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,080
Right, talking of talking, it's time
to talk about the scores.
878
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,160
Finishing last, with a taxi for one,
with -20,
879
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,120
it's Alan.
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
880
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,680
In fourth place, with two points,
881
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,600
it's Rose.
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
882
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:05,800
In third place, with three,
883
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,640
it's Lou.
884
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,640
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
885
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,160
In second place,
with four points, it's Ross.
886
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,920
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
887
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,080
Which means, in first place,
and getting a big tick from me,
888
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,320
with ten points, it's the audience!
889
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,560
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
890
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,840
Thank you to Rose, Ross,
Lou and Alan.
891
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,040
And we leave you with this tactical
solution to a tough problem
892
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,440
from Albert Einstein.
893
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,120
When I was young, I found out
that the big toe always ends up
894
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,760
making a hole in a sock.
895
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,400
So I stopped wearing socks.
Goodnight.
896
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,080
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING