1 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,240 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 2 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:36,360 Go-oo-oo-ood evening, good evening, good evening 3 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,800 and welcome to QI. 4 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,840 Tonight, as Plato said, "Let no-one untrained in geometry enter here," 5 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,880 for our theme is geometry. 6 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,920 And sitting around our conic section tonight, we have the shapely Johnny Vegas. 7 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,080 APPLAUSE 8 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,440 The curvaceous Rob Brydon. 9 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,120 APPLAUSE 10 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,880 The hyperbolic David Mitchell. 11 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,280 APPLAUSE 12 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,920 And a square peg in a round hole, Alan Davies. 13 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,240 APPLAUSE 14 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:23,520 So let's hear your geometrical buzzers. Rob goes... 15 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,440 # Bermuda Triangle 16 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,080 # It makes people disappear... # 17 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,120 And Johnny goes... 18 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,720 # You're so square Baby, I don't care... # 19 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,040 David goes... 20 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,080 # Like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel... # 21 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,320 And Alan goes... 22 00:01:44,320 --> 00:01:49,440 # The wheels on the bus go round and round, all day long... # 23 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:56,600 I thought we'd begin tonight with some fashion tips. Johnny, you're looking very svelte. 24 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,040 What's your secret? 25 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,160 Well, it's a tidy neck. 26 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:06,680 A tidy neck? Yeah, and a button hole just left casual enough, 27 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:12,480 so if a lady should approach you, she's going, "There's room for change, but not too much." 28 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,640 Oh, that's the secret... 29 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:18,400 Two buttons down, part slag, part hero. 30 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:23,720 Anyone have any thoughts as to why he might be looking or might not be looking svelte? 31 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,160 Is it to do with the direction of his stripes? 32 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,440 It is to do with the direction of his stripes. 33 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,640 It is, look at the picture there. It's accentuating my breasts. 34 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:43,680 On the left, that's Alexander Armstrong. It does look a bit like him. It does. Extraordinary. 35 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:49,640 They make fat people wear stripes and you can tell how old they are. It's like cutting a tree in half. 36 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:55,560 It's supposed to be that vertical stripes may you look slimmer, but they don't. You're right. 37 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,160 That's the point. Absolutely right. 38 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,280 People should wear the... the horizontal ones 39 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,320 that Johnny is sporting. 40 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:10,360 It's very interesting because almost everybody thinks that vertical stripes make people look slimmer. 41 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:15,720 In prisons, sometimes women have asked for vertical, rather than horizontal stripes, 42 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,040 so that they look leaner, or they think they do, 43 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,600 but research from a man called Dr Peter Thompson of York University 44 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:28,600 has found that the large majority think the one in the vertical stripe is larger 45 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,840 than the one in the horizontal stripe when they are the same size. 46 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,400 Surely, this shows that it makes no difference at all 47 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:56,400 because we're determining whether wearing vertical or horizontal stripes makes you look thinner 48 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,560 and you can't tell by looking. 49 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:04,440 The difference is so slight that you have to do research with hundreds and hundreds of people. 50 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:09,240 Basically, people look as fat or thin as they are. 51 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,440 You are... I beg to differ. 52 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:20,680 I have a friend who's quite short and he likes to wear vertical stripes because they make him look taller. 53 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,400 Only when he's not standing next to anyone. 54 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,560 It's not going to make him look taller than a taller man. 55 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:34,720 It's all relative. He'll just say, "There's a normal-sized man next to an enormous man!" 56 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:39,680 "Oh, he's taken his striped shirt off. It's a tiny man next to a normal man." 57 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,920 I've missed your angry logic, David, I have to say. 58 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:48,760 It just alternates, doesn't it? For ages, you think vertical stripes make people look thinner. 59 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:54,280 Then you say, "She's wearing vertical stripes, so she must be fatter than she looks." 60 00:04:54,280 --> 00:04:58,120 So suddenly, horizontal stripes start making you look thin. 61 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,280 "She must be thin, otherwise she'd never dare wear horizontal stripes." 62 00:05:02,280 --> 00:05:07,600 Then they go, "No, horizontal stripes make you look thinner." "Oh, she must be fat." 63 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,400 APPLAUSE 64 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:16,160 So these are the things that go through your mind when you see someone wearing stripes? 65 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:22,720 What happens when you see someone with polka dots and you're going, "She must be nine mile long"? 66 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:28,440 Contrary to popular belief, horizontal stripes are more slimming than vertical ones. 67 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:33,360 While we're admiring fine lines... David, you may know this cos you're bright. 68 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,840 Not that you others aren't. 69 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:38,360 I'll feel terrible if I don't! 70 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,880 Why do columns around the Parthenon look straight? 71 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,960 Because they are. 72 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:51,120 You see, I don't think I know this and I think I'm going to say something embarrassing. Go on. 73 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,120 It gets wider, so that it looks straight. 74 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:59,640 It's further away at the top, so to stop it looking like it's tapering, they made it wider. 75 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,880 This was the theory for a long time. It's a thing called entasis. 76 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:09,120 If a column is exactly straight, from a distance it looks as if it bows inwards. 77 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:14,680 The secret is to make it bow slightly outwards, so from a distance, it looks straight. 78 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,040 But it turns out this isn't what they did after all. 79 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:25,200 It's Alan's first answer which is they look straight cos they are straight. That's not a question! 80 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,800 Why does this man look thin? Because he is! 81 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:35,000 That... That has taken me on a whole circle! 82 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:40,240 A train of thought going, "The reason they look straight is because they are." 83 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,040 This is why I struggled at school! 84 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,560 It's the Q of QI... If a train travels at 40mph 85 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:51,600 and leaves at 9 o'clock and arrives in Glasgow at 12 o'clock, how did it get there? 86 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,800 You're going, "Cos it did!" 87 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,760 LAUGHTER 88 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,080 It's sort of that. It's not sort of that. It's very confusing! 89 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:06,000 It's the Q of QI. It is going round in a circle, but with a twiddly bit at the end. 90 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Why does that look straight? 91 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,600 Because it's not. 92 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,560 That would have been a question. Why does that look straight? 93 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,920 Because it is! 94 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,680 Sometimes... 95 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,720 Because it is! 96 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,480 Sometimes things look... It's straight! 97 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:32,840 Please don't be unhappy, Johnny. I'm not. I'm just confused at the start! 98 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:37,440 Let me un-confuse you because the same man who discovered... 99 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,480 I try! You do, Johnny. 100 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:46,720 No, seriously, listen. The same man... Do you remember what his name was, who discovered that hoops...? 101 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:53,200 Peter Thompson. He also discovered that the straight lines on the Parthenon... He's good with lines. 102 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:58,480 ..are straight because they're straight? He is here tonight in the studio. 103 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,200 Where are you, Peter? He's wearing a straight moustache. 104 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:07,160 Hello, Peter Thompson. Hello. You've upset Johnny, but what's your point? 105 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:13,040 He's looking fantastically slim tonight because he's wearing horizontal stripes. It is true... 106 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,240 I'll still have a heart attack. 107 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,720 They won't stop that. Thanks to the stripes, I'll be in denial. 108 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,840 DAVID: What do you have to wear to look not dead when you are? 109 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,360 Why am I looking so good? 110 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:31,640 You look good because you're wearing horizontal stripes. They make you look taller. 111 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:36,280 Vertical stripes will make you look wider, certainly. 112 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:42,440 Which is against what everybody believes? Yes, but someone has to do the science to show what is true. 113 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:47,880 If you're really fat, it won't make a lot of difference because the effect's not that big. 114 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,360 LAUGHTER 115 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,800 You may have aroused the beast within Johnny. 116 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,240 I give you my theory! 117 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,400 Peter Thompson, thank you very much indeed. Dr Thompson, everybody! 118 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,120 APPLAUSE Excellent. There you are. 119 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,720 Who was it, though, that first saw some pillars that looked straight 120 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:18,240 and thought that must be because they bulge, rather than that they're just straight? 121 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,240 I think it does exist, this entasis, but not on the Parthenon. 122 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,400 There are other places where it does happen, 123 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,640 where from the right distance, they look straight. 124 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:34,480 Other people believe they may be bowed for structural reasons, that it helps them stand up more. 125 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:26,600 There you are. The columns on the Parthenon look straight because they are straight. 126 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,560 Now look at these two shapes. They have names, right? 127 00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:35,040 Kerpow! Well, one is the kiki and the other is the bouba. 128 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,640 Tell me which is which. Bouba's on the right, clearly. 129 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,880 Would you agree with that? Kiki's the spiky one. 130 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:47,720 Would you agree? I would say kiki is the splodgy one and bouba is the spiky one. The other way round? 131 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,920 What would you say, Johnny? I hate to think! 132 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,840 I would say they should go back to their dating agency. 133 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,960 LAUGHTER 134 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:02,280 And ask for a refund. Shall we ask the audience what they think? 135 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,120 If you think kiki is the one on the left, put your hand up. 136 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,640 That's a huge majority. 137 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,480 Who thinks kiki may be the one on the right? 138 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,960 There's a few of you going along with Rob. Are you all Welsh? 139 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,560 There is no right or wrong answer. 140 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:20,600 Wolfgang Kohler was a, was a... 141 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,280 A pirate! That's the word I was after(!) 142 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,520 Arr-arr-arr-arr! 143 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,560 APPLAUSE 144 00:13:29,560 --> 00:13:31,520 I was... 145 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:38,160 I wanted to say "psychologist". I looked at you and all I could think of was "psychiatrist". 146 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:44,240 I don't know about other languages, but in English, "point" sounds pointy, "blob" sounds blobby. 147 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,200 The point is it's true in all languages. 148 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:53,880 That "kiki" sound to anybody, whatever their culture, they would think that was the spiky one. 149 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,520 Crack and blob. And the bouba thing, they would think of as blobby. 150 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:04,560 Is it a form of onomatopoeia? It is a form of "honour", as you say, "matter", as you point out, "peer". 151 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:10,520 Well done. That's exactly what I would say. It seems to go deep within us, whatever our cultures. 152 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:15,720 In other languages, for example, in Huambisa, which is a South American language, 153 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:22,200 98% of people who didn't speak Huambisa, when seeing the words "chunchuikit" and "mauts", 154 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:28,240 thought that if one was a fish and one was a bird, "chunchuikit" would be a bird and "mauts" a fish. 155 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,960 Flap-flap-flap. Yeah, there is a deep onomatopoeia within... 156 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,120 And yet the Welsh word for "carrot" is "moron". 157 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,040 LAUGHTER Is it? 158 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,600 There we go again, bucking the trend. 159 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,640 If "moron" was going to be a word for a food, 160 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,680 I'd say it would be for something more like a mousse or a pate. 161 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,400 A potato. I would say a baked potato. 162 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,760 They're quite blunt - carrots. Yes, but... 163 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,800 "Moron" is the Greek for "blunt", which is why it means "obtuse, blunt-witted". 164 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:03,120 "Oxy" is "sharp", "moron" is "blunt", hence oxymoron being a... 165 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:08,840 Carrot is right for carrot because it's crunchy. "Carrot", when you bite it, "carrot"... 166 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:15,120 Moron, there's nothing "moronny". Unless you're being inappropriate with your carrot and going... 167 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,600 What's odd about onion rings? 168 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:26,280 More-ish. Exactly. Yeah, moreish, rather than moron. What rule do they come under? Onion rings? 169 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:31,440 Let's not... It's not that every single word in every language is onomatopoeic. 170 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,480 They often are, though. They often are, yes. 171 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,440 Desk! Yeah... Desk! 172 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,880 Tin, tin, tin, tin. 173 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,680 Boo-oo-oo-ook. 174 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,920 Pen! 175 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,080 This is how you teach a chimp to speak. 176 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,600 Well, then, pay attention. Paper! 177 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,040 APPLAUSE 178 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,280 Very mean and most unjustified. 179 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:05,320 And mother and father in a lot of languages, "mother" is the "ma-ma" towards you 180 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,960 and "father" is the "ba" and "da" away from you. 181 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaking as a father, can I say that my parenting doesn't consist of that? No, it's the baby doing that. 182 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:21,040 The mother is towards me and the father is over there. He's "da", he's there. But what if he's here? 183 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,280 Yeah, all right, but mostly... Don't get cross with me! 184 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:31,320 He's asked you some absolutely ludicrous things and you've sat there going, "Oh, your northern charm!" 185 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:36,440 I give you one query and you look at me like I'm an arse! 186 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,440 I can't answer... You've done this before on this show! 187 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,240 From now on, you're my friend and my pet, Rob. I'm very sorry. 188 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:49,360 Maybe I think you can take it more and that Johnny's a little more vulnerable. 189 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,880 He's got big, soft, sad eyes. Look, you see? 190 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,640 My eyes are soft! That's true. 191 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,880 No, your eyes are keen. Mine are soft, yours are keen. 192 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,920 Mine are not keen. You're looking for a weakness, whereas I... 193 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:08,960 I just... Johnny has the eyes of trust. You have the eyes of prostitution. 194 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,800 LAUGHTER 195 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,200 Whoa! 196 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,360 I thought I was watching the Mr Men behind Alan's head! 197 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:47,400 I don't know. I like the bright colours. Yes, yes. 198 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,400 I like my eyes and the fact that you leave me alone when I go quiet. 199 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:56,080 Well done, everybody there, tarts and chimpanzees and all. 200 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:01,440 After that display of topological trickery, perhaps we should get back to our books. 201 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:06,000 Can you tell me what the most successful textbook of all time is? 202 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,400 Is it the one that teaches you what LOL means and LMAO? 203 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,720 It probably is now. Yeah. 204 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,720 No, what's our theme for the day? 205 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,600 Geometry. It's the... Logarithms. 206 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,040 Not logarithms. No, not logarithms! 207 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,840 LAUGHTER 208 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:28,160 Oh! Do you want my eyes? He might listen to you. 209 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,480 Stephen, is it logarithms? 210 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,040 No, but it's a jolly good guess. 211 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:38,080 Some ancient geometrical textbook written probably by a Greek. Kites For Beginners! 212 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,800 Euclid. Euclid is the right answer, David Mitchell. 213 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,520 Euclid, Euclid's Stoicheia, Euclid's Elements. 214 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,640 The propositions of Euclid are all about planes and conical sections 215 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,880 and all the forms of the circle and the square, 216 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:58,720 the provable facts of geometry that are the basis of everything, the physics that came afterwards. 217 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:04,120 So he turned up and said, "This is why all the buildings have been falling down." 218 00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:07,560 Engineering obviously owed a huge amount to it. 219 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:13,440 Many mathematicians believe his book is perhaps the most beautiful of all the mathematical books. 220 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:20,080 We're looking at one of the earliest editions. What does it say there? "The most" something "philosopher". 221 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,800 I'm brilliant with Latin. No, it's written in English. 222 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,440 LAUGHTER 223 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,680 APPLAUSE 224 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:35,120 But the names... You're right, the names are written in Greek there. 225 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:38,000 Yeah, and that's what threw me. 226 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,560 Queen Elizabeth I's court magician, John Dee. Have you heard of him? 227 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,080 Hmm. He was an extraordinary man who worked as a spy. 228 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,920 Can you tell me the cipher he used as a spy? Invisible ink? 229 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,040 No, he had a particular cipher, his call sign. 230 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:58,400 And a writer many, many years later, who was extremely learned in the ways of the world, 231 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,240 despite being thought of just as a thriller writer, used it... 232 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,840 Ian Fleming. Yes. 007. 233 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:10,200 Exactly. It was John Dee's call sign. I sense points. Yes, you will have seven points. 234 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,400 Seven points! I could give you 700, written backwards. That's too much. 235 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,920 I'm not going to speak again! 236 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:22,760 He was also one of the people responsible for bringing Euclid to the attention of the world. 237 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,960 We'll take a bird's-eye view now. 238 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,040 What's the best place to go to look into the future? 239 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,120 A sci-fi convention. A sci-fi convention? Yeah. 240 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:36,120 Right, OK. Maybe. 241 00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:41,840 When you see the stars and the sun, that's old light. That's looking into the past. 242 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:47,680 Do you have to go past that? You look backwards because history teaches us the future. 243 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,400 Because from history, we learn patterns. 244 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,240 And as Dr Phil says time and time again, 245 00:20:55,240 --> 00:21:00,320 the greatest indicator of future behaviour is past behaviour. 246 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,360 When are you going to realise he's not interested? I'm so... 247 00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:06,960 LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE 248 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,520 Tell him you're interested. I'm very interested. A very good answer. 249 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,040 Unlike when you speak, he's not frightened. 250 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,360 Just to return briefly... Just to pull the reins in a little, 251 00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:26,280 there is a place where physically you can look into the future. 252 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:31,320 You're not literally looking into the future. Is it by the International Date Line? 253 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:36,920 Exactly. Does it have the magic hill where you're going up, even though you're... 254 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:42,440 No, it's not that. No, this is literally the date line. You see, that was stupid! 255 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:48,840 It wasn't stupid. I knew that was wrong and he went, "Of course not, Johnny." He just doesn't like you. 256 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,160 This divides... Thanks, Stephen. That's fine. 257 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:59,400 So if you're on... Looking at it, we'd say the left-hand side of that red line, right? 258 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,800 In time, it's ahead of the right-hand side, 259 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:07,760 so if you were to fly from Los Angeles in America to Sydney, Australia, 260 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,800 you would lose a day, as I did a few months ago. 261 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,720 If I stood perfectly on that line... 262 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,640 You'd drown. Let's just say... 263 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,280 LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE 264 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:23,880 If I stood on that line and there's an accident, 265 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:29,160 could I jump over the line and stop yourself from doing it? 266 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,200 LAUGHTER Aside... 267 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,960 You could warn yourself. You could wave back and... 268 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:41,880 You're thinking of Michael J Fox. Can you jump back and stop yourself making mistakes? 269 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:47,320 You can't literally do that, but... You lost a day flying, so it was two days later... 270 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,960 I went on the 18th of December and I arrived on the 20th. 271 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:56,600 Having only lived one day? Yeah. You were only a day older, yet the world was two days older. 272 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,160 Part of the world was two days older. 273 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:04,400 If you did that every day, you'd live twice the number of days of most humans 274 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:09,440 and would appear, despite only having lived, say, 80 years, to have lived for 160. 275 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:14,960 Yes. "Amazing, a 160-year-old man! What did he achieve?" "Nothing. He had a lot of airline fuel." 276 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,080 Would you struggle to hold down a job? 277 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,360 Yes. Yeah. Yes, you would. In terms of a pension? 278 00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:27,360 You could maybe do it if you lived on the Diomede Islands. They're at the very top. 279 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:33,200 What's that area of water between Russia and...? Bering Strait. Exactly. We can zoom in there. 280 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:39,960 There's the International Date Line and Big Diomede and Small Diomede, the greater and the lesser Diomedes. 281 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,480 If you were stood with your child and he had a pet rabbit and it died, 282 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,520 could you jump over that time line with the rabbit... 283 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:53,320 It would come back to life, still be ill and die. ..and jump back with it? 284 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,360 I'm going to ask you what your opinion is. What do you think? 285 00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:01,040 I think, me personally, but I'm selfish, 286 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:07,120 what I would do, I'd get a jet ski and stay on the line and go round the world. Right. 287 00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:12,320 Yes. And stay at my perfect weight and this age for the rest of my life. 288 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,160 I would go round the world continually following that line, 289 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,160 shouting advice and being mistaken for God. 290 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,640 I wouldn't be surprised if my parents came in and had a word with you 291 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:30,520 and asked if Johnny could be taken to another class because they feel Rob isn't learning. 292 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,560 APPLAUSE 293 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,800 That's exceptionally well expressed. 294 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:44,120 Hang on. The International Date Line is wiggly. The Greenwich Meridian isn't. 295 00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:47,240 It passes round territories and island groups. 296 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,280 So two houses on the same street aren't on two different days? 297 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,480 It tries to avoid going through land. The closest it gets is there. 298 00:24:55,480 --> 00:25:01,520 Does Small Diomede look at Big Diomede and watch people get older faster? Yeah, exactly. 299 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:06,440 If you're standing on Big Diomede, you are looking at the past. 300 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,800 If you stand on Little One... 301 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:13,360 It's Friday and you're on Big Diomede, you see them on Thursday. 302 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:17,640 And you're already drunk. Yeah. And they're hungover! 303 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,880 Are you ready to move on? Yes. 304 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,200 So the best place to see into tomorrow... I'm tired of being odd. 305 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,160 Oh, bless! The best place to see into tomorrow is the Diomede Islands 306 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,200 on opposite sides of the International Date Line. 307 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,560 Now try this. Where does the extra square in this diagram come from? 308 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:40,160 Those two are the same size and made up of elements of the same size. 309 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,280 There's a white square there, a bit's missing. 310 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:48,040 Oh, yeah. How can that be? Because some of the triangles... 311 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,880 Have a look at it actually happening. 312 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,720 That one goes there, that one goes there, that goes there... 313 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,400 Like so, like so, like so. 314 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:03,240 So now there's more space in there? Yeah. That can't be possible, can it? 315 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,640 Yet my eyes tell me it is. 316 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,360 It's not even longer. It's the same, isn't it? 317 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:11,480 Yeah. Um... 318 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,080 It is a cheat. That's witchcraft! It is rather. 319 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,240 Funnily enough, it was a magician who discovered this. 320 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:25,720 It's five blocks high, the same number of blocks long by the look of it. It's a very small, subtle cheat. 321 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,840 The hypotenuse in the top one and the bottom one seem to be the same, but they are curved. 322 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:36,080 The red triangle has a ratio of 5 to 2, the blue triangle has a ratio of 8 to 3, 323 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,960 so the two triangles are not similar. 324 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:45,080 It's going like that and like that? One has a slightly dipped line, the other has a slightly "up" line. 325 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,200 The eye assumes they're straight and is puzzled by that gap. 326 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,560 We thought you'd like that. It's quite interesting. I quite like it. 327 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,600 It's Curry's Paradox. It's simply a trick. 328 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,720 The gap appears because the hypotenuse is imperceptibly bent. 329 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:06,120 All of which brings... Curry's Paradox? Yeah. Should you buy the insurance? 330 00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:09,120 LAUGHTER 331 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:14,440 Or just risk it? All of which brings us squarely up against General Ignorance, 332 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,920 so fingers on buzzers. What's the best place to punch a shark? 333 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,560 In a pub. 334 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:29,200 In a pub after loads of pork scratchings when he's really dehydrated 335 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:35,720 and then you look really hard and people who aren't sharks go, "Don't want to mess with him!" 336 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,280 In the eye. In the eye is right. 337 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:44,880 A lot of people think the nose. They may be confusing it with dogs, but the eye is the best place. 338 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:51,080 The eye or the gill. More people in the world are bitten by New Yorkers every year than they are by sharks. 339 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,920 Not in the water, though! 340 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:59,480 You have to take into account the relative seriousness of that event. Well, no, actually. 341 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:04,120 81% of victims attacked and bitten by sharks suffered minor injuries. 342 00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:07,800 How many New Yorkers a year bite someone's leg off? 343 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,840 I don't know, but they may cause rabies and other hideous diseases. 344 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:17,800 Oh, well... Certainly more people are killed in America by lavatory accidents than sharks. 345 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:23,120 What saddens me is 120 million sharks every year are killed by us human beings. 346 00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:28,560 For their fins. Just for their bloody fins! Just for what? Fins. Shark fin soup. 347 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:33,400 The rest of their body is thrown in the water. A shark fin is tasteless as well. 348 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,440 Chicken stock is added to it to give it flavour. But I hate sharks. 349 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:42,600 They're beautiful animals. They don't harm anybody. Because you find them ugly? 350 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,080 I think they're scary. They're incredibly scary. 351 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,600 Every cell in my body, when I see that, says, "It is the enemy!" 352 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:55,640 They've got far more reason to be scared of a human than a human has of a shark. 353 00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:00,560 Most mammals see human beings in the same way. Look at the miracle of their teeth! 354 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,640 That's extraordinary. They have rows of teeth. Their teeth go backwards. 355 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,640 They bite, they fall out and the next one literally comes forward. 356 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,760 They've got a conveyor belt of rows of teeth. 357 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:17,840 More impressive than that, Stephen, is how she's managed to do her lipstick under water. 358 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,280 It is rather. Very pretty. 359 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:25,560 Your talk of razor-sharp teeth on a conveyor belt is making them sound quite sweet(!) 360 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:33,960 A shark's nose is a shade too close to its mouth to go jabbing around there, so go for the gills or eyes. 361 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,200 How many legs does an octopus have? 362 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,040 Oh, I mean... Ahh! Ahh! 363 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,680 The clue is in "octo". Does it vary depending on the breed? Two. 364 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,240 Two legs is the right answer. I saw one in panto. 365 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,200 APPLAUSE 366 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:55,440 That's to say, when octopuses move around on the bottom of the ocean, 367 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,760 they use two of their tentacles for ambulatory gait 368 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:05,600 and the other four they use for holding food, so they could be said to have two legs and six arms. 369 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,120 How much of the moon can you see from the Ea-arth? 370 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,600 LAUGHTER 371 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,040 Well... 372 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,360 You can see one side of it. 373 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:24,280 Yes. There is this strange thing called libration which is like vibration beginning with an L. 374 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,680 It's a thing that was noted by quite a few of the early astronomers. 375 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:34,840 Can I say... Sorry, Stephen, but if that's an acceptable way of defining a word... 376 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,960 What? "Libration - it's like vibration, but beginning with an L." 377 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:45,800 Just so you could picture it in your heads. Is that bad? I was with you already with "libration". 378 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,320 I thought you might have heard it as "libation". 379 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,960 What does it mean? I was about to tell you, then somebody came and said... It wasn't me! 380 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,000 I'll tell you. You get this jiggling effect. 381 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:03,120 Basically, you can see about 59% of the surface of the moon from Earth. At one time? 382 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,280 Obviously, when it's a new moon or whatever, it's a lot less, 383 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,360 but you can see 59% of the surface, rather than just 50. 384 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,520 And that cosmic wobble brings us to the end of another QI show. 385 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,560 It's time to check the form and see what scores we're dealing with. 386 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,560 It's absolutely fascinating. It couldn't be "fascinating-er"! 387 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,880 We have a tie, would you believe it, for third place - 388 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,680 Rob and Johnny on plus two! 389 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,400 APPLAUSE 390 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:41,280 Well, in second place, of course, with four points, 391 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,600 is David Mitchell! 392 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,040 APPLAUSE 393 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,080 And it's 21 points for Alan Davies! Thank you. 394 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,120 CHEERING 395 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,160 And that's all from this geometrical edition of QI, 396 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,280 so it's good night from Johnny, Rob, David, Alan and me. Good night. 397 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,960 APPLAUSE 398 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,000 Subtitles by Subtext for Red Bee Media Ltd 2010 399 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,040 Email subtitling@bbc.co.uk